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(Connecticut Post)   Technology giant plans mosquito invasion. What could possibly go wrong?   ( ctpost.com) divider line
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2017-07-16 11:32:28 AM  
So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?
 
2017-07-16 12:04:46 PM  
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2017-07-16 12:05:31 PM  
 
2017-07-16 01:32:01 PM  
Programs such as this have worked well for screwworms, so I see no reason it cannot work in this application as well.
 
2017-07-16 01:32:38 PM  
They've been talking about this in the Florida Keys since 2010. The company here is Oxitec. It had initial FDA permission, then local voters said no, then they changed the location in the Keys, now they await FDA approval again for another location. Also, we've released down here tens of thousands of Walbachia-infected mosquitoes to battle aedis aegypti.

http://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/environment/article128628979.htm​l

http://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/environment/article156734339.htm​l
 
2017-07-16 01:35:12 PM  
And as for screwworm, Repo Man, yes, releasing them saved our endangered Key deer population.
http://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/article139354173.html
 
2017-07-16 01:35:58 PM  
Mosquito Invasion is the name of my Beatlemania cover band.
 
2017-07-16 01:36:24 PM  
I appreciate the intent, but I am not 100% comfortable with human intervention in nature on this scale.   No matter how much research they do, they cannot possibly be taking everything into account.
 
2017-07-16 01:39:59 PM  

KarmicDisaster: A world without mosquitoes


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2017-07-16 01:41:28 PM  
I wonder if this technique can be used on humans?
 
2017-07-16 01:42:24 PM  

SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?


There aren't any species that fully rely upon a diet of mosquitoes. There have been studies conducted to examine the consequences of mosquito extinction; the results point to a fully positive outcome. It is highly unlikely that mosquitoes could be fully eradicated (without employing broad spectrum pesticides, i.e. DDT), but a substantial reduction would be a good thing.
 
2017-07-16 01:42:42 PM  

SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?


There's no species that relies on mosquitos for large amounts of food.

I have a friend who's a university biologist that talks about this from time to time.  He's theorized that mosquitos largely live as parasitic organisms who's evolutionary purpose seems to be to cull the human population - killing over a million a year and immiserating hundreds of millions more.
 
2017-07-16 01:49:16 PM  

beezeltown: SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?

There aren't any species that fully rely upon a diet of mosquitoes. There have been studies conducted to examine the consequences of mosquito extinction; the results point to a fully positive outcome. It is highly unlikely that mosquitoes could be fully eradicated (without employing broad spectrum pesticides, i.e. DDT), but a substantial reduction would be a good thing.


More to the point, this is Aedes aegypti we're talking about. Nothing in California is dependent on feeding on an invasive mosquito.
 
2017-07-16 01:49:31 PM  

beezeltown: SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?

There aren't any species that fully rely upon a diet of mosquitoes. There have been studies conducted to examine the consequences of mosquito extinction; the results point to a fully positive outcome. It is highly unlikely that mosquitoes could be fully eradicated (without employing broad spectrum pesticides, i.e. DDT), but a substantial reduction would be a good thing.


It would be like vaccines where through active maintenance can keep the levels low enough to not be a problem.  Until people forget what mosquitos were and decide to stop maintaining their low levels and they come back.
 
2017-07-16 01:55:23 PM  
this could easily be the plot device for a zombie film. or since it's Google/Alphabet, how the Umbrella Corp got started. or a cool world conspiracy movie, probably a Mission Implausible type retcon.

/implausible was on purpose
 
2017-07-16 02:06:26 PM  

hissatsu: beezeltown: SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?

There aren't any species that fully rely upon a diet of mosquitoes. There have been studies conducted to examine the consequences of mosquito extinction; the results point to a fully positive outcome. It is highly unlikely that mosquitoes could be fully eradicated (without employing broad spectrum pesticides, i.e. DDT), but a substantial reduction would be a good thing.

More to the point, this is Aedes aegypti we're talking about. Nothing in California is dependent on feeding on an invasive mosquito.


I've read about this idea before - IIRC it's also the case that the species of mosquito that transmit human diseases like malaria and yellow fever make up only a small portion of the total number of mosquito species, and that if suddenly Aedes aegypti, Anopheles gambiae, Culex spp. etc. all disappeared the other ones would probably fill in the gaps quickly enough.
 
2017-07-16 04:30:58 PM  
Still waiting for vaccine.
 
2017-07-16 05:28:18 PM  

SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?


Aedes aegypti are invasive in that area (Fresno) and they carry zika, yellow fever, dengue and other fun stuff. Yes, they need to die.

/seeing them these days where I live
 
2017-07-16 06:18:42 PM  

hissatsu: beezeltown: SpaceyCat: So are they going to be putting out mosquitoes every year for the animals that eat them?  Crash the mosquito population and you'll impact every other creature that relies on them for food.  It's like some people ignore the whole food web thing that keeps the environment healthy.  Did we not learn anything when we killed off wolves in some areas?

There aren't any species that fully rely upon a diet of mosquitoes. There have been studies conducted to examine the consequences of mosquito extinction; the results point to a fully positive outcome. It is highly unlikely that mosquitoes could be fully eradicated (without employing broad spectrum pesticides, i.e. DDT), but a substantial reduction would be a good thing.

More to the point, this is Aedes aegypti we're talking about. Nothing in California is dependent on feeding on an invasive mosquito.


Was about to say both of these, but I guess I'll just THIS.
 
2017-07-16 06:20:46 PM  

Altoid: I appreciate the intent, but I am not 100% comfortable with human intervention in nature on this scale.   No matter how much research they do, they cannot possibly be taking everything into account.


Counterpoint: it is too late for humans to NOT have a significant effect on mosquitoes.  We massively increase their breeding locations depending on the environment.  Not so much in swamps, but elsewhere we contribute to stagnant and standing water like crazy. We've also introduced species from across the world to different places. Pandora's Box is already open, and you are saying we should close it with hope still in the bottom.
 
2017-07-16 07:11:49 PM  

stuffy: Still waiting for vaccine.


Vaccine to which horrible disease -- Skeeters?
 
2017-07-16 07:35:48 PM  

Smackledorfer: Altoid: I appreciate the intent, but I am not 100% comfortable with human intervention in nature on this scale.   No matter how much research they do, they cannot possibly be taking everything into account.

Counterpoint: it is too late for humans to NOT have a significant effect on mosquitoes.  We massively increase their breeding locations depending on the environment.  Not so much in swamps, but elsewhere we contribute to stagnant and standing water like crazy. We've also introduced species from across the world to different places. Pandora's Box is already open, and you are saying we should close it with hope still in the bottom.


Developing treatments to the diseases they carry also has an impact
 
2017-07-16 07:40:42 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Smackledorfer: Altoid: I appreciate the intent, but I am not 100% comfortable with human intervention in nature on this scale.   No matter how much research they do, they cannot possibly be taking everything into account.

Counterpoint: it is too late for humans to NOT have a significant effect on mosquitoes.  We massively increase their breeding locations depending on the environment.  Not so much in swamps, but elsewhere we contribute to stagnant and standing water like crazy. We've also introduced species from across the world to different places. Pandora's Box is already open, and you are saying we should close it with hope still in the bottom.

Developing treatments to the diseases they carry also has an impact


Then it will be OK, if they bite you, right?
 
2017-07-16 07:45:20 PM  
Hutchins TX is also a shipping hub for Wal-Mart to the DFW area.
 
2017-07-16 08:01:00 PM  

KarmicDisaster: TheDirtyNacho: Smackledorfer: Altoid: I appreciate the intent, but I am not 100% comfortable with human intervention in nature on this scale.   No matter how much research they do, they cannot possibly be taking everything into account.

Counterpoint: it is too late for humans to NOT have a significant effect on mosquitoes.  We massively increase their breeding locations depending on the environment.  Not so much in swamps, but elsewhere we contribute to stagnant and standing water like crazy. We've also introduced species from across the world to different places. Pandora's Box is already open, and you are saying we should close it with hope still in the bottom.

Developing treatments to the diseases they carry also has an impact

Then it will be OK, if they bite you, right?


If you can afford it.  If you cannot, you die or face potential lifelong disablement.  See:  1 million dead a year, millions more disabled
 
2017-07-16 08:33:13 PM  
Woo! Packers! I mean, Cowboys!
 
2017-07-16 10:23:25 PM  

Keys dude: They've been talking about this in the Florida Keys since 2010. The company here is Oxitec. It had initial FDA permission, then local voters said no, then they changed the location in the Keys, now they await FDA approval again for another location. Also, we've released down here tens of thousands of Walbachia-infected mosquitoes to battle aedis aegypti.

http://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/environment/article128628979.html

http://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/environment/article156734339.html​


I seem to remember a weird conspiracy theory that connected this to spreading Zika, as well; I have this vague memory perhaps from a Fark thread of a link to a page that showed Zika virus samples for sale... Sound familiar to anybody else? Was that from a dream?
 
2017-07-16 11:58:32 PM  
Because of global warming, there's no guarantee that the gorillas will freeze to death in the winter.
 
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