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(Deadline)   War for the Planet of the Apes is #1 with $57 million, Spider-Man Threeboot caught a web of failure at #2 with $47 million. Despicable Me 3 is #3 with $19 million, The Big Sick a healthy #5 with $7.4 million, Wonder Woman lassoing $6.6 million at #6   ( deadline.com) divider line
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2017-07-16 10:15:01 AM  
$47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?
 
2017-07-16 10:18:11 AM  

timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?


Seems respectable to me.  Especially when you consider that another big movie came out this week.  I would say that Apes is more failure because it's not really that much higher than Spiderman.
 
2017-07-16 11:11:14 AM  
War,not some goddamn great ape escape.  What a farking piece of shiat bait and switch this movie was.
 
2017-07-16 11:48:43 AM  
Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!
 
2017-07-16 12:08:40 PM  

4seasons85!: Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!


Same -  I have to say that a popcorn action flick has not surprised me so much with a plot twist in... decades? It completely inverted my expectations. Excellent film.
 
2017-07-16 12:16:15 PM  
Is Web of Failure the new Career Suicide Squad for you subby?
 
2017-07-16 12:24:00 PM  
The headline writer is a hack and should be outed as an asshole.
 
2017-07-16 12:28:45 PM  

timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?


Supposedly, the drop off shows you how big of legs it has.

If you have a 2nd week drop off between 60-67% you aren't gonna have a long run. No repeat business.

55-59% is acceptable, but you hope you had big numbers opening week. 50-54 is solid hit. 45-49 is considered  blockbuster.

Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.
 
2017-07-16 12:30:48 PM  

Leishu: 4seasons85!: Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!

Same -  I have to say that a popcorn action flick has not surprised me so much with a plot twist in... decades? It completely inverted my expectations. Excellent film.


There was a plot twist in Baby Driver?  Someone thinking that is the only plot twist involved in that film.   It was entertaining for sure but there was no part of that film I considered surprising.

Well other than why Doc would work with someone like Bats, but that's no twist just lazy writing.
 
2017-07-16 12:34:03 PM  
Subby is a dumbass.

That is all.
 
2017-07-16 12:36:42 PM  
saw Spider-man on thursday and thoroughly enjoyed it.
 
2017-07-16 12:42:01 PM  

Greymalkin: Leishu: 4seasons85!: Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!

Same -  I have to say that a popcorn action flick has not surprised me so much with a plot twist in... decades? It completely inverted my expectations. Excellent film.

There was a plot twist in Baby Driver?  Someone thinking that is the only plot twist involved in that film.   It was entertaining for sure but there was no part of that film I considered surprising.

Well other than why Doc would work with someone like Bats, but that's no twist just lazy writing.


I guess it was just me being used to lazy writing, but I expected the climax to be....

Kinda spoiler below
...

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...

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Doc's gun to Baby's head, basically, and Buddy saving his life, rather than the reverse - Not so much a twist, I guess? I don't know. It was well-foreshadowed but not obvious, though, and that was nice.
 
2017-07-16 12:43:58 PM  
Apes Together Strong

9 out of 10 stars
 
2017-07-16 12:45:19 PM  

BizarreMan: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Seems respectable to me.  Especially when you consider that another big movie came out this week.  I would say that Apes is more failure because it's not really that much higher than Spiderman.


It's kind of funny, but industry people were harping on BvS and Scuicide Squad steep drop offs.  Everyone dogpiled on them. Expect the same for this at least in the industry. Spider-Man fans, if you loved the movie, don't worry about it.

The biggest drop off Wonder Woman had was 49%... and that was against Spider-Man. So yeah, according to the industry, this wasn't good. A reboot should be able to hold its audience against a third movie in a series.

Apes second weekend will determine if it's a hit or not. But it's performing well for a third movie.
 
2017-07-16 12:59:21 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: BizarreMan: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Seems respectable to me.  Especially when you consider that another big movie came out this week.  I would say that Apes is more failure because it's not really that much higher than Spiderman.

It's kind of funny, but industry people were harping on BvS and Scuicide Squad steep drop offs.  Everyone dogpiled on them. Expect the same for this at least in the industry. Spider-Man fans, if you loved the movie, don't worry about it.

The biggest drop off Wonder Woman had was 49%... and that was against Spider-Man. So yeah, according to the industry, this wasn't good. A reboot should be able to hold its audience against a third movie in a series.

Apes second weekend will determine if it's a hit or not. But it's performing well for a third movie.


I thought BvS's drop was essentially uncompeted, though, wasn't it?
 
2017-07-16 01:09:57 PM  

Leishu: 4seasons85!: Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!

Same -  I have to say that a popcorn action flick has not surprised me so much with a plot twist in... decades? It completely inverted my expectations. Excellent film.


To me, it was just a well done film. No real downtime in the action.  The action itself was awesome. Sprinkled with good humor. Well acted and a good soundtrack.
 
2017-07-16 01:11:38 PM  
Meanwhile, Submitter: Headline of Failure is being thoroughly panned by Fark submission critics.
 
2017-07-16 01:19:31 PM  
Baby Driver was fun from start to finish.
 
2017-07-16 01:24:57 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Baby Driver was fun from start to finish.


Yep! I'd argue it's a new classic. Finally an action film that was mostly action. Most action films are talk with a couple action scenes that are filmed wide screen with some big explosions. This was refreshing.
 
2017-07-16 01:25:13 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.


I've only seen it once, but a Facebook friend of mine has seen it at least 9 times now.  I wouldn't mind seeing it again.
 
2017-07-16 01:25:43 PM  
War for the Battle for the Rise to Escape from the Death of the Planet of the Apes
 
2017-07-16 01:29:39 PM  

4seasons85!: Leishu: 4seasons85!: Saw Baby Driver. Holy cow it was good!

Same -  I have to say that a popcorn action flick has not surprised me so much with a plot twist in... decades? It completely inverted my expectations. Excellent film.

To me, it was just a well done film. No real downtime in the action.  The action itself was awesome. Sprinkled with good humor. Well acted and a good soundtrack.


I have to love it because it gives Beck's "Debra" the love it deserves.
 
2017-07-16 01:40:40 PM  

timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?


My reaction to submitter's headline was essentially "WHAT THE F..."
 
2017-07-16 01:45:40 PM  
$47 million is a "failure"?

welcometofark.jpg
 
2017-07-16 01:45:47 PM  
Saw The Big Sick on a whim. I really don't like romantic comedies. It was reallygood. Happy that the wife and I saw it together.

Mad_Radhu:
I have to love it because it gives Beck's "Debra" the love it deserves.

God I love that song, and you better believe I'm singing it when it comes on, falsetto and all.
 
2017-07-16 01:51:51 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: $47 million is a "failure"?

welcometofark.jpg


It's actually losing money.
 
2017-07-16 02:05:23 PM  
I saw Spider-Man Homecoming the other day and loved it. I think it's in my top 5 Marvel movies.
 
2017-07-16 02:14:31 PM  
Never heard of The Big Sick, so I just watched the trailer.  They should have named the main guy Dinesh because he plays the exact same character on Silicon Valley, but it looks cute.  Not pay-to-see-it cute, but worth a watch if it comes to cable or Netflix.

/Movie needs more Gilfoyle
 
2017-07-16 02:16:43 PM  

Bslim: E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: $47 million is a "failure"?

welcometofark.jpg

It's actually losing money.


As of July 14, 2017, Spider-Man: Homecoming has grossed $176.8 million in the United States and Canada, and $150.7 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $327.5 million.[2][3]

Is this more of that Hollywood math bullshiat?
 
2017-07-16 02:27:47 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Supposedly, the drop off shows you how big of legs it has.

If you have a 2nd week drop off between 60-67% you aren't gonna have a long run. No repeat business.

55-59% is acceptable, but you hope you had big numbers opening week. 50-54 is solid hit. 45-49 is considered  blockbuster.

Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.


Yeah, I just saw another headline saying it was the worst second week drop-off of an MCU movie. I saw it this weekend and thought it was really good, though.
 
2017-07-16 03:02:58 PM  

4seasons85!: Crewmannumber6: Baby Driver was fun from start to finish.

Yep! I'd argue it's a new classic. Finally an action film that was mostly action. Most action films are talk with a couple action scenes that are filmed wide screen with some big explosions. This was refreshing.


Not to mention being an action movie where you can tell exactly what is happening throughout the action. It was just superbly done.
 
2017-07-16 03:15:04 PM  
I like the new Apes movies, and I was going to go see the new one this weekend, but the local theaters didn't have any matinees that were non-3D.  I can't deal with 3D movies most of the time (headache inducing) and didn't want to pay extra for a less-enjoyable experience, so I skipped it.

If the theaters actually ran some matinees that weren't in 3D, the numbers might have been better.
 
2017-07-16 03:29:54 PM  

Leishu: Darth_Lukecash: BizarreMan: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Seems respectable to me.  Especially when you consider that another big movie came out this week.  I would say that Apes is more failure because it's not really that much higher than Spiderman.

It's kind of funny, but industry people were harping on BvS and Scuicide Squad steep drop offs.  Everyone dogpiled on them. Expect the same for this at least in the industry. Spider-Man fans, if you loved the movie, don't worry about it.

The biggest drop off Wonder Woman had was 49%... and that was against Spider-Man. So yeah, according to the industry, this wasn't good. A reboot should be able to hold its audience against a third movie in a series.

Apes second weekend will determine if it's a hit or not. But it's performing well for a third movie.

I thought BvS's drop was essentially uncompeted, though, wasn't it?


Yep. There are two schools of thought on that. First, such a big opening was bound to have that kind of drop off (69%)  but if you look at The Force AWakens drop of only was 33% in the same situation.
 
2017-07-16 03:38:42 PM  
Can't praise Spider-Man: Homecoming enough. It's one of the most human superhero films made, and Michael Keaton kills it as the Vulture. Doesn't hurt that Marisa Tomei is incredibly hot and awesome as Aunt May too. All the MCU cameos and call backs are awesome; Chris Evans had to get a kick out of his spots :D
 
2017-07-16 03:48:15 PM  
I can't imagine what the appeal of Planet of the Apes movies is, especially above and beyond anything else coming out this summer. I'll be interested to know what happens next week when the big pile of meh that is "Valerian" is the sci-fi epic of the week.

The thing I got out of seeing Spider-Man was that Jumanji looks like a shiat ton of fun. I didn't even know that was being made and it's immediately moved up to a must-see if only for The Rock and Jack Black
 
2017-07-16 04:00:09 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Supposedly, the drop off shows you how big of legs it has.

If you have a 2nd week drop off between 60-67% you aren't gonna have a long run. No repeat business.

55-59% is acceptable, but you hope you had big numbers opening week. 50-54 is solid hit. 45-49 is considered  blockbuster.

Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.


Which I really don't get. Maybe it was all of the hype setting my expectations too high, but I didn't find WW amazing in any capacity beyond being a DC movie that wasn't awful. Which isn't to say I didn't enjoy it, I just don't get the ridiculous account of praise it seems to get as the best thing ever. I'd probably personally rate it in the middle tier of Marvel's stuff.

/Setting up Germany as the evil bad guys was really jarring, and distracting, through most of the film given how there really weren't clear 'good' and 'bad' guys in WWI
//Was glad they highlighted that in the big reveal, made the WWI setting really work
///I like Spiderman better
 
2017-07-16 04:13:12 PM  

idrow: Never heard of The Big Sick, so I just watched the trailer.  They should have named the main guy Dinesh because he plays the exact same character on Silicon Valley, but it looks cute.  Not pay-to-see-it cute, but worth a watch if it comes to cable or Netflix.

/Movie needs more Gilfoyle


Gilfoyle was busy in Spidertween.
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2017-07-16 04:23:28 PM  

HalEmmerich: Darth_Lukecash: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Supposedly, the drop off shows you how big of legs it has.

If you have a 2nd week drop off between 60-67% you aren't gonna have a long run. No repeat business.

55-59% is acceptable, but you hope you had big numbers opening week. 50-54 is solid hit. 45-49 is considered  blockbuster.

Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.

Which I really don't get. Maybe it was all of the hype setting my expectations too high, but I didn't find WW amazing in any capacity beyond being a DC movie that wasn't awful. Which isn't to say I didn't enjoy it, I just don't get the ridiculous account of praise it seems to get as the best thing ever. I'd probably personally rate it in the middle tier of Marvel's stuff.

/Setting up Germany as the evil bad guys was really jarring, and distracting, through most of the film given how there really weren't clear 'good' and 'bad' guys in WWI
//Was glad they highlighted that in the big reveal, made the WWI setting really work
///I like Spiderman better


Wonder Woman was derivative and predictable, the definition of a safe bet in the wake of BvS and Suicide Squad. It reminded me a lot of the Force Awakens, actually, in that it recycles familiar scenes from other movies and somehow gets a pass from critics and fans. It was weird watching Wonder Woman and seeing scenes straight out of Superman and Captain America, only the names and places were different. I mean, it's not that new for the DCEU, because Man of Steel's climax was almost identical to the first Abrams Star Trek: the big ship (the Narada, Zod's ship) is rammed by a smaller ship (Spock's ship, Clark's pod) carrying a special payload and is sucked into a wormhole. The hero (Enterprise, Superman) is almost sucked into the wormhole too but escapes at the last second.
 
2017-07-16 04:30:30 PM  

houstondragon: Can't praise Spider-Man: Homecoming enough. It's one of the most human superhero films made, and Michael Keaton kills it as the Vulture. Doesn't hurt that Marisa Tomei is incredibly hot and awesome as Aunt May too. All the MCU cameos and call backs are awesome; Chris Evans had to get a kick out of his spots :D


The post-credits scene is also worth mentioning. Without spoiling it, I can say that it offers a very interesting experience for those patient enough to wait for it.
 
2017-07-16 04:31:03 PM  

Sweet Chin Music: HalEmmerich: Darth_Lukecash: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

Supposedly, the drop off shows you how big of legs it has.

If you have a 2nd week drop off between 60-67% you aren't gonna have a long run. No repeat business.

55-59% is acceptable, but you hope you had big numbers opening week. 50-54 is solid hit. 45-49 is considered  blockbuster.

Wonder Woman 40% drop off is considered a cultural milestone. People are going to see it in the theater again and again.

Which I really don't get. Maybe it was all of the hype setting my expectations too high, but I didn't find WW amazing in any capacity beyond being a DC movie that wasn't awful. Which isn't to say I didn't enjoy it, I just don't get the ridiculous account of praise it seems to get as the best thing ever. I'd probably personally rate it in the middle tier of Marvel's stuff.

/Setting up Germany as the evil bad guys was really jarring, and distracting, through most of the film given how there really weren't clear 'good' and 'bad' guys in WWI
//Was glad they highlighted that in the big reveal, made the WWI setting really work
///I like Spiderman better

Wonder Woman was derivative and predictable, the definition of a safe bet in the wake of BvS and Suicide Squad. It reminded me a lot of the Force Awakens, actually, in that it recycles familiar scenes from other movies and somehow gets a pass from critics and fans. It was weird watching Wonder Woman and seeing scenes straight out of Superman and Captain America, only the names and places were different. I mean, it's not that new for the DCEU, because Man of Steel's climax was almost identical to the first Abrams Star Trek: the big ship (the Narada, Zod's ship) is rammed by a smaller ship (Spock's ship, Clark's pod) carrying a special payload and is sucked into a wormhole. The hero (Enterprise, Superman) is almost sucked into the wormhole too but escapes at the last second.


I definitely felt some Captain America deja vu in the middle at least. Secret weapons being developed, high command won't let you deal with it, you go in anyway with ragtag bunch of allies, the super weapon is in a giant, era inappropriate plane that a hero had to sacrifice themselves to stop... It's not quite all 1 to 1 but it felt very similar. It didn't help that making it a period piece really invites the comparison, even if it's a different war, the aesthetics of the German army didn't change much between the two so even at that level it feels similar. Like I said though I did still enjoy the movie, it just seems to get more praise than it warrants.
 
2017-07-16 04:35:24 PM  

Bslim: E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: $47 million is a "failure"?

welcometofark.jpg

It's actually losing money.


Excuse me, what?

Budget $175 million[2]
Box office $469.4 million[2]
 
2017-07-16 04:45:47 PM  

Dimensio: houstondragon: Can't praise Spider-Man: Homecoming enough. It's one of the most human superhero films made, and Michael Keaton kills it as the Vulture. Doesn't hurt that Marisa Tomei is incredibly hot and awesome as Aunt May too. All the MCU cameos and call backs are awesome; Chris Evans had to get a kick out of his spots :D

The post-credits scene is also worth mentioning. Without spoiling it, I can say that it offers a very interesting experience for those patient enough to wait for it.


It was 1000000% better than the shawarma scene in Avengers.
 
2017-07-16 05:02:23 PM  

Clutch2013: Bslim: E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: $47 million is a "failure"?

welcometofark.jpg

It's actually losing money.

As of July 14, 2017, Spider-Man: Homecoming has grossed $176.8 million in the United States and Canada, and $150.7 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $327.5 million.[2][3]

Is this more of that Hollywood math bullshiat?


It won't lose money, but it might lose money if you only include domestic money.  That's a big red flag for studios.

I saw it and really liked it.  A solid B+ in my books.  The only movie this summer I liked more was Baby Driver.
 
2017-07-16 05:09:34 PM  
Your headline sucks
 
2017-07-16 05:10:26 PM  

likefunbutnot: I can't imagine what the appeal of Planet of the Apes movies is, especially above and beyond anything else coming out this summer. I'll be interested to know what happens next week when the big pile of meh that is "Valerian" is the sci-fi epic of the week.

The thing I got out of seeing Spider-Man was that Jumanji looks like a shiat ton of fun. I didn't even know that was being made and it's immediately moved up to a must-see if only for The Rock and Jack Black


Is this a continuation of the Apes movie with Marky Mark from like 15 years ago?

They've been making Fast and Furious movies since them too.
 
2017-07-16 05:13:51 PM  

AquaTatanka: likefunbutnot: I can't imagine what the appeal of Planet of the Apes movies is, especially above and beyond anything else coming out this summer. I'll be interested to know what happens next week when the big pile of meh that is "Valerian" is the sci-fi epic of the week.

The thing I got out of seeing Spider-Man was that Jumanji looks like a shiat ton of fun. I didn't even know that was being made and it's immediately moved up to a must-see if only for The Rock and Jack Black

Is this a continuation of the Apes movie with Marky Mark from like 15 years ago?

They've been making Fast and Furious movies since them too.


No. Marky Mark and the Monkey Bunch was a one-off reboot with no relation to either the old series or the new films.
 
2017-07-16 05:24:16 PM  

NeoCortex42: 4seasons85!: Crewmannumber6: Baby Driver was fun from start to finish.

Yep! I'd argue it's a new classic. Finally an action film that was mostly action. Most action films are talk with a couple action scenes that are filmed wide screen with some big explosions. This was refreshing.

Not to mention being an action movie where you can tell exactly what is happening throughout the action. It was just superbly done.


Edgar Wright is 5 for 5 in my book. The only time he lost me was the third act of the World's End. And that was still better than everyone else's stuff.
 
2017-07-16 05:28:33 PM  

Crewmannumber6: NeoCortex42: 4seasons85!: Crewmannumber6: Baby Driver was fun from start to finish.

Yep! I'd argue it's a new classic. Finally an action film that was mostly action. Most action films are talk with a couple action scenes that are filmed wide screen with some big explosions. This was refreshing.

Not to mention being an action movie where you can tell exactly what is happening throughout the action. It was just superbly done.

Edgar Wright is 5 for 5 in my book. The only time he lost me was the third act of the World's End. And that was still better than everyone else's stuff.


Ditto. And the third act of Hot Fuzz more than averages out the relatively weak last act of World's End.
 
2017-07-16 05:31:52 PM  

Dimensio: timujin: $47 million is a "failure"? Were expectations higher for the second weekend?

My reaction to submitter's headline was essentially "WHAT THE F..."


my only wtf was that #1-6 except #4 were in the headline.  no idea why you dont mention Baby Driver in the headline that's already long.
 
2017-07-16 05:33:58 PM  
I saw the Spider-Man movie, I thought it was okay. The actor who plays him is alright, but I think he's better suited to a supporting role. I'm thinking something along the lines of how Fox uses that Quicksilver character in the recent Xmen movies. Have him appear in the movie, do a really fun scene, then let the other characters carry the film.

The movie is not bad, not at all. It's just kind of good enough to not be bad, but not good enough that I'd recommend it to anyone. If you want to see this Spider-Man I'd recommend just watching the Marvel movies he appears in.
 
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