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2017-07-15 09:08:42 AM  
Simple words:

Read the goddamn funny books or don't.  If you did, pretty much at all, you'd know the answer.  It's not goddamn rocket science.
 
2017-07-15 09:13:37 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Read the goddamn funny books or don't.  If you did, pretty much at all, you'd know the answer.


Except this is Secret Wars were talking about. I don't even think the folks at Marvel have any idea what is going on. I call it the "Lost" of comic events: started great, then went completely off the rails.
 
2017-07-15 09:13:41 AM  
Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
 
2017-07-15 09:48:24 AM  

Man On A Mission: LowbrowDeluxe: Read the goddamn funny books or don't.  If you did, pretty much at all, you'd know the answer.

Except this is Secret Wars were talking about. I don't even think the folks at Marvel have any idea what is going on. I call it the "Lost" of comic events: started great, then went completely off the rails.


Eh, I mean yeah the in-story explanation is bullshiat, but what's going on is pretty basic.  Mashing fan favorites from ending alternate line into the main line.  The end.
 
2017-07-15 11:24:09 AM  
Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.
 
2017-07-15 11:50:35 AM  
I haven't read for a long time, was really all that bad, so much that it needed the Crisis on Infinite earths treatment? I mean DC was a mess, they had to have there own answere guy for a while just so people could write in and understand Earth-1, Earth-2 and so on and so on and so on.

Or was it more of a marketing gimmick?
 
2017-07-15 11:55:15 AM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.
 
2017-07-15 11:58:53 AM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


So it's Marvel's version of Crisis On Infinite Earths?
 
2017-07-15 12:00:32 PM  

Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.

If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."
 
2017-07-15 12:02:36 PM  

FrancoFile: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.


i1079.photobucket.com
 
2017-07-15 12:06:52 PM  

FrancoFile: 616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.


The MCU is universe number 199999
 
2017-07-15 12:09:11 PM  

Nefarious: FrancoFile: 616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.

The MCU is universe number 199999


I thought it was number 1$$$$$$$$$
 
2017-07-15 12:13:46 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


I'm going to need a spliff, a drink and a flowchart.
 
2017-07-15 12:15:19 PM  
Kilometres Morales, for non-americans
 
2017-07-15 12:19:42 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."


Well, more likely Spider-Miles, since there's already Spider-Gwen.
 
2017-07-15 12:20:14 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."


"Oh, you mean Black Debbie..."
 
2017-07-15 12:23:07 PM  
I know Ult. Peter Parker died, but I seem to remember him somehow coming back to life shortly before the whole Secret Wars storyline.
 
2017-07-15 12:37:39 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


Tl; dr:

Like that episode of Star Trek with the parallel universe. Except you have two Spider Men instead of good Spock vs evil Spock with the beard.
 
2017-07-15 12:42:10 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


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zeppo_shemp: ...
Like that episode of Star Trek with the parallel universe. Except you have two Spider Men instead of good Spock vs evil Spock with the beard.

Ahh!
 
2017-07-15 12:47:09 PM  

tkgeisha: I haven't read for a long time, was really all that bad, so much that it needed the Crisis on Infinite earths treatment? I mean DC was a mess, they had to have there own answere guy for a while just so people could write in and understand Earth-1, Earth-2 and so on and so on and so on.

Or was it more of a marketing gimmick?


The way it was presented by Marvel, as another Earth(s)-shattering event was a marketing gimmick, as was getting rid of the Ultimate line, which had fallen far from its very popular beginnings.  But the story was REALLY well done, and Hickman has made a name for himself by throwing out huge concepts and developing the hell out of them.  Secret Wars was even referenced in his Fantastic Four book years before he actually did the event.

In short, though, they didn't need a Crisis to resolve any threads.  Marvel just needed to kill off a dying (sales-wise) universe while keeping Miles Morales and evil Reed Richards, the parts that worked (though they're starting to bring a few other characters over, like Jimmy Hudson, Wolverine's Ultimate son.)
 
2017-07-15 12:52:11 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


You forgot the bit where Mile Morales is brought over to the 616 universe because he gives Molecule Man an old hamburger that he's somehow stores in his skintight spider-suit.
 
2017-07-15 12:52:46 PM  
As much flak as soap operas get, they've got nothing on the weird world of comics.

Peter Parker isn't dead, he was in a coma this whole time! Dun dun dunnnnnnn....
 
2017-07-15 12:59:11 PM  

FrancoFile: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.


There's more than just that. It's basically Marvel's way of covering their rumps when it comes to continuity, if they need a slightly different version of an existing character or if they want to do a really wild "What If" story.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing

Enjoy!
 
2017-07-15 01:05:16 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot [snip] and here we are.


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-15 01:08:05 PM  
UNC_Samurai:  Well, more likely Spider-Miles, since there's already Spider-Gwen.

Miles was first.
 
2017-07-15 01:15:32 PM  

Flogster: As much flak as soap operas get, they've got nothing on the weird world of comics.

Peter Parker isn't dead, he was in a coma this whole time! Dun dun dunnnnnnn....


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-15 01:19:47 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: FrancoFile: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.

There's more than just that. It's basically Marvel's way of covering their rumps when it comes to continuity, if they need a slightly different version of an existing character or if they want to do a really wild "What If" story.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing

Enjoy!


Earth-404 not found.
 
2017-07-15 01:21:23 PM  

Shostie: Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."

"Oh, you mean Black Debbie..."

Or "Black Andy"
 
2017-07-15 01:27:22 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."


Miles Morales is black spider-man.  he was very much created to fill that role.  there's nothing wrong with that but it is what it is.

Miguel O'Hara of spider-man 2099 apparently wasn't ethnic enough.
 
2017-07-15 01:28:41 PM  

CT Zeal: tkgeisha: I haven't read for a long time, was really all that bad, so much that it needed the Crisis on Infinite earths treatment? I mean DC was a mess, they had to have there own answere guy for a while just so people could write in and understand Earth-1, Earth-2 and so on and so on and so on.

Or was it more of a marketing gimmick?

The way it was presented by Marvel, as another Earth(s)-shattering event was a marketing gimmick, as was getting rid of the Ultimate line, which had fallen far from its very popular beginnings.  But the story was REALLY well done, and Hickman has made a name for himself by throwing out huge concepts and developing the hell out of them.  Secret Wars was even referenced in his Fantastic Four book years before he actually did the event.

In short, though, they didn't need a Crisis to resolve any threads.  Marvel just needed to kill off a dying (sales-wise) universe while keeping Miles Morales and evil Reed Richards, the parts that worked (though they're starting to bring a few other characters over, like Jimmy Hudson, Wolverine's Ultimate son.)


Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
2017-07-15 01:29:05 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."

"Oh, you mean Black Debbie..."
Or "Black Andy"


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-15 01:44:46 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.


And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.
 
2017-07-15 01:56:08 PM  

IlGreven: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.


s2.quickmeme.com
 
2017-07-15 02:00:27 PM  
I'm so glad I didn't become a superhero comic nerd. They seem to consist of nothing but writers desperately attempting to justify absurd marketing directives.
 
2017-07-15 02:03:00 PM  
It's quite obvious where all this is leading:  Once the new "Twin Peaks" has finished its run, David Lynch will be free to adapt from and work in the MCU.
 
2017-07-15 02:11:44 PM  

FrancoFile: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.


There's the universe where everybody's a cowboy. Then there's the universe where there's no shrimp. And then there's the universe where there's nothing but shrimp.
 
2017-07-15 02:12:24 PM  

IlGreven: And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-15 02:31:02 PM  
LaBlueSkuld:

There's more than just that. It's basically Marvel's way of covering their rumps when it comes to continuity, if they need a slightly different version of an existing character or if they want to do a really wild "What If" story.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing

Enjoy!


I honestly don't understand why comic book companies give a flying f*ck about "continuity".  I love Robert E. Howard's Conan stories.  I love other writers' Conan pastiches.  I love Arnie's Conan the Barbarian movie.  I loved the Savage Sword of Conan and Conan Saga comic books as a teen.  There can be no "continuity" between all of these ... Conan would be having amazing adventures every single day of his life for all these stories to be "true" about him.  But at the same time, my enjoyment of the movie and the comics isn't diminished by the fact that they aren't "canon".  Who gives a shiat?

Just hire a writer to tell a story about the Hulk or Spider Man or whoever over a bunch of comic books, make sure that story has internal consistency, and don't worry about how that run segues with previous or subsequent stories about the Hulk or Spider Man or whoever.  "In this set of comic books, Spider Man saved Uncle Ben from being murdered, but then years later fell under the spell of Dr. Doom and fought the Fantastic Four."  Great, sounds like a fun story to run over 15 or 20 comic books.  After that tell a different Spider Man story about how he is best friends with the Thing.  Who cares which story is "canon"?
 
2017-07-15 02:39:52 PM  
Miles Morales is the kid that's a better Spider-man than Peter Parker.

/opinion only valid in my head
 
2017-07-15 02:45:36 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Simple words:

Read the goddamn funny books or don't.  If you did, pretty much at all, you'd know the answer.  It's not goddamn rocket science.


Or you know... RTFA.
 
2017-07-15 03:04:01 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: IlGreven: And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.

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why? he already got 2 of you to bite.
 
2017-07-15 03:08:26 PM  

Foxxinnia: I'm so glad I didn't become a superhero comic nerd. They seem to consist of nothing but writers desperately attempting to justify absurd marketing directives.


That's pretty much all they are since the movies became successful.

That and sad fanboys essentially being paid to write bad fanfiction where they take their favorite characters from when they were wearing underoos and watching Superfriends and include a lot of rape and sex and violence and death because that's "mature".

/see: the average Geoff Johns comic.
 
2017-07-15 03:08:33 PM  
I thought it was "Mighty Miles Morales, Mexican Mystic".
 
2017-07-15 03:17:12 PM  
Here it is:

"Suits a comic book companies like to make money.  So they get multiple iterations of characters and universes for the characters and sell that much more books.  Some suit becomes ultra sentient and think 'hey, if these universes cross over that is even more money!'"
 
2017-07-15 04:37:16 PM  

stonelotus: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: IlGreven: And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.

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why? he already got 2 of you to bite.


People pointing at bait and saying it is bait is successful trolling now?
 
2017-07-15 04:44:13 PM  

batlock666: FrancoFile: Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

616, 1610?  Please don't tell me there are 1608 other universes.

There's the universe where everybody's a cowboy. Then there's the universe where there's no shrimp. And then there's the universe where there's nothing but shrimp.


I wanna live in that universe...

/Red Lobster shrimpfest FTW!
//nom nom nom
 
2017-07-15 05:05:16 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Shostie: Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
If Peter and Miles exist in the same universe, you know everyone will start referring to Morales as "Black Spider-Man."


Black Stormy
Youtube pdilb_yErAk
 
2017-07-15 07:16:58 PM  

Mentat: Some time ago, Marvel realized their 616 mainline universe continuity was getting too complicated, so they did a soft reboot by creating the Ultimate Universe (Earth 1610).   1610 was designed to be the more "mature" universe, meaning that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were openly farking, Nick Fury was Sam Jackson, Hulk was a cannibal and pretty much anyone could die.  Despite the silliness of the premise, it actually sort of worked and became popular enough that it became the spiritual basis for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  In 1610, Peter Parker is killed fighting Norman Osborn and Miles Morales takes up the mantle of Spidey.  The 616 Spider-Man eventually crosses over to 1610 and they meet which is when we get the first hint that Morales exists in 616.

Fast forward a few years and the Marvel Universe is collapsing thanks to the Beyonders.  Different universes come together with one being destroyed.  Eventually, the 616 and 1610 universes are all that's left.  Everyone fights, lots of people die, and the universe is seemingly destroyed.  Except that Doctor Doom, Doctor Strange and Molecule Man defeat the Beyonders and Doom creates a new patchwork universe from fragments of different universes and declares himself god.  A refugee ship carrying 616 and 1610 heroes end up here and eventually defeat Doom, restoring the 616 universe but now with 1610 heroes, meaning we have two Spider-Men and here we are.

NSFW language


pumpkin escobar(tracy morgan) - jay and silent bob strike back
Youtube T8b0XhAoWxg
 
2017-07-15 09:55:47 PM  

Smackledorfer: stonelotus: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: IlGreven: And all of that just so they could get a black guy in the Spider-Man costume to appease all the socjus nits who don't read their comics.

/The same brilliant minds brought you Fem!Thor.

[img.fark.net image 344x290]

why? he already got 2 of you to bite.

People pointing at bait and saying it is bait is successful trolling now?


the point of a troll is to get attention.  getting a response to a troll post is successful trolling. so, yes.  it hasn't changed since the mid 90's.
 
2017-07-15 10:26:42 PM  

stonelotus: the point of a troll is to get attention.  getting a response to a troll post is successful trolling. so, yes.  it hasn't changed since the mid 90's.


The point of a troll is less about the attention itself, and more about the level of reaction they can goad people into. Offhand ridicule with the minimum amount of effort put in isn't exactly what trolls are looking for. 

Hell, you've gotten more investment and effort from me than the original idiot managed.
 
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