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(Deadspin)   Mayweather Vs. McGregor is the "Kardashians" of sports   ( deadspin.com) divider line
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2017-07-14 02:08:30 PM  
Does that mean it appeals primarily to stupid people who care far more about flash than substance and bend easily to the most obvious manipulations by advertisers and marketers?

Because if that's what it means, then yes.
 
2017-07-14 02:17:56 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Does that mean it appeals primarily to stupid people who care far more about flash than substance and bend easily to the most obvious manipulations by advertisers and marketers?

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2017-07-14 02:28:14 PM  
Does that mean there's at least one huge ass?
 
2017-07-14 02:29:06 PM  

LucklessWonder: Does that mean there's at least one huge ass?


There are two in this, from what I've seen.
 
2017-07-14 02:29:11 PM  
I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.
 
2017-07-14 02:31:41 PM  
I think it's hilarious.

I'm not spending any money on it, but it's all hilariously stupid.

It might not be 'sport', but it is entertainment.
 
2017-07-14 02:36:46 PM  

SuperChuck: I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.


Anyone can get a lucky shot in.

But Mayweather is basically the worst possible match-up for brawler who needs a TKO to win.
 
2017-07-14 02:38:27 PM  
The best possible outcome would be if they both knocked each other out at the same time.
 
2017-07-14 02:47:21 PM  

SuperChuck: I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.


It's less terror and more knowledge.
 
2017-07-14 02:47:31 PM  

SuperChuck: I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.


It's also entirely possible that he simply has no chance. He can't kick, he can't take Mayweather to the mat, and Mayweather's the more experienced boxer.

It will be neither close nor entertaining.
 
2017-07-14 02:48:56 PM  

etoof: The best possible outcome would be if they both knocked each other out at the same time.


I think it's actually relatively likely that there's a melee in the ring either during the fight or once stopped. Something like the Golota-Bowe post-stoppage riot. The boxing itself won't be interesting, but both of these fighters are all about the hype. Since the boxing will be pretty boring, they'll have to deliver in some other way.

This also sets up the potential for a lucrative rematch which couldn't happen if it's just a typical Mayweather dance-off.
 
2017-07-14 02:51:32 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Does that mean it appeals primarily to stupid people who care far more about flash than substance and bend easily to the most obvious manipulations by advertisers and marketers?

Because if that's what it means, then yes.


So, sports?
 
2017-07-14 02:56:11 PM  

bainsguy: SuperChuck: I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.

It's also entirely possible that he simply has no chance. He can't kick, he can't take Mayweather to the mat, and Mayweather's the more experienced boxer.

It will be neither close nor entertaining.


I'm actually stealing this from someone else in another thread on this (I'd give credit if I could remember it) who said this would be like Roger Federer playing a tennis match against the world's top rated table tennis player.  Yeah, they play sports that are similar, but Federer would kick his ass because they're playing hisgame.

Obviously, were this MMA, McGregor would beat Mayweather as badly as Mayweather beats the women in his life1.  But it's not.  Mayweather will dance around and frustrate McGregor, who'll do something dumb to try to get to him, giving Mayweather his opening.  If this goes 3 rounds I'll be shocked.

1Allegedly.
 
2017-07-14 02:56:21 PM  
I'll say the same thing that I said for the Mayweather-Pacman fight: They're both assholes, and I will take pleasure in them both getting hurt.
 
2017-07-14 02:57:12 PM  
It's more like the Nickleback of Sports. Everyone is saying they won't watch it and it'll all suck, but Mayweather and McGregor will make money anyways.
 
2017-07-14 03:07:34 PM  

jake_lex: this would be like Roger Federer playing a tennis match against the world's top rated table tennis player.


or Michael Phelps racing a shark
 
2017-07-14 03:26:29 PM  
I'll never understand why people watch Mayweather fights.

His hands are too fragile to hit with power but he has a long reach and he's basically a perfect defender with amazing discipline.

I honestly suspect most of the people who buy his PPVs are mad that they bought the last one and nothing exciting happened, so they're going to keep buying them hoping and praying that they'll get to see someone knock the shiat out of him.

That's not going to happen though because he's too technically good to losing a boxing match.  Anyone who watches a Mayweather fight hoping something exciting will happen is an idiot.  Exciting things happen when someone SUCKS when it comes to combat sports.  If you're good you don't throw wild haymakers, and nobody hits you with them.

That's why the first few years of UFC were great.  Nobody knew what they were doing.  Now it's a science (except in the women's division) and sciences are not the most exciting things to spectate at.  Watching Floyd Mayweather have a fight is like being ringside for the activation of the large hadron collider.  You're signing up to watch something technically amazing where nothing a human being can perceive actually happens.

If you do not like watching someone avoid getting hit and never really doing much damage to an opponent, do not buy a Mayweather ppv.  That's his fight.  He's too good at it for anybody to take him out of it.  This will be more of the same at least partially because it's all he can do.
 
2017-07-14 03:27:46 PM  

jake_lex: bainsguy: SuperChuck: I find it very amusing how all the boxing experts are so vehement that McGregor has no chance. They're terrified that he might win.

It's also entirely possible that he simply has no chance. He can't kick, he can't take Mayweather to the mat, and Mayweather's the more experienced boxer.

It will be neither close nor entertaining.

I'm actually stealing this from someone else in another thread on this (I'd give credit if I could remember it) who said this would be like Roger Federer playing a tennis match against the world's top rated table tennis player.  Yeah, they play sports that are similar, but Federer would kick his ass because they're playing hisgame.

Obviously, were this MMA, McGregor would beat Mayweather as badly as Mayweather beats the women in his life1.  But it's not.  Mayweather will dance around and frustrate McGregor, who'll do something dumb to try to get to him, giving Mayweather his opening.  If this goes 3 rounds I'll be shocked.

1Allegedly.


uh it's not allegedly, he went to jail. real jail, not "was held overnight then released"
 
2017-07-14 03:42:05 PM  
If the sport's promoters were smart, they would take a hype page out of Vince McMahon's playbook and have these press events at boxing matches you see on free TV, like two upcoming Summerslam opponents jawing at each other on RAW.  That way, you have people also watching up and coming fighters at the same time, and keep interest in the sport past next month.  The way they're doing this now, no one will care at all past August 26.
 
2017-07-14 03:46:33 PM  

bainsguy: LucklessWonder: Does that mean there's at least one huge ass?
There are two in this, from what I've seen.


There have to be promoters.  Make that many huge asses.
 
2017-07-14 04:00:02 PM  
Fark both of them. after this promotional tour I couldn't care less if they fought in the alley over a chicken bone. 2 pieces of shiat trying to out POS each other.
 
2017-07-14 04:26:10 PM  
I never thought I would miss Don King, but here we are. At least Don could get a little "give a shiat" out of me. These clowns and Dana do nothing for me; no desire to drop a hundred for hours of bad prelims, worse "expert analysis" and a completely unwatchable fight.

/ in the unlikely event that anything interesting happens, I'll catch it in the morning on YouTube
 
2017-07-14 04:28:10 PM  
Saw an ESPN interview with Mayweather (not sure how old it is) and it explains perfectly why you should never buy his fights if you desire a knockout. He believes he's the best because he made the most money and took the least amount of damage. If he believed he could win a boxing match without throwing a single punch he would do it.  Punches are just a means of avoiding getting hit himself.
 
2017-07-14 04:42:52 PM  

jake_lex: Mayweather will dance around and frustrate McGregor, who'll do something dumb to try to get to him, giving Mayweather his opening.  If this goes 3 rounds I'll be shocked.



If this doesn't go to the judges I will be shocked. When was the last time Mayweather one shotted anyone ? Mayweather can easily out point MacGregor and avoid any damage for the full 12. MacGregor's only chance is something aggressive early on and maybe make Mayweather mad with shiat talk. As long as Mayweather doesn't go full on BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD rage he can't lose.
 
2017-07-14 04:50:59 PM  

gunsmack: I never thought I would miss Don King, but here we are. At least Don could get a little "give a shiat" out of me. These clowns and Dana do nothing for me; no desire to drop a hundred for hours of bad prelims, worse "expert analysis" and a completely unwatchable fight.

/ in the unlikely event that anything interesting happens, I'll catch it in the morning on YouTube


Over in politics, there's a link to Don King saying Trump knows what it's like to be black.

In case you really do miss him.
 
2017-07-14 04:51:43 PM  
The only way this "fight" gets any credibility is to make the purse 90-10.  Winner gets 90 per cent.
 
2017-07-14 04:56:52 PM  

jake_lex: I'm actually stealing this from someone else in another thread on this (I'd give credit if I could remember it) who said this would be like Roger Federer playing a tennis match against the world's top rated table tennis player. Yeah, they play sports that are similar, but Federer would kick his ass because they're playing hisgame.


Decent analogy but not really the right one. Federer would not lose the entire tennis match if the other guy wound up and pasted a lucky ace right on the line. He'd just lose a single point and go on to humiliate the guy. "Puncher's chance" means something. McGregor does not have a very good chance of outboxing Mayweather. But McGregor can hit hard enough to knock someone out - Mayweather is a human being, if someone connects hard enough he can be knocked out. I don;t think it's likely but it's far more likely than an amateur beating Roger Federer at tennis simply because tennis has no knockouts.

What people aren't mentioning enough is McGregor is in his physical prime at 29. Mayweather is a far past his prime and already-retired 40 years old. So even if McGregor does land the proverbial lucky shot it's not going to prove a damn thing. If Mayweather got in a time machine and went back to his 29 year old self I'm not sure Mcgregor would get a glove on him. He's a cock and a half but his speed in his prime was nigh unbelievable.
 
2017-07-14 05:04:02 PM  

One Bad Apple: If this doesn't go to the judges I will be shocked. When was the last time Mayweather one shotted anyone ? Mayweather can easily out point MacGregor and avoid any damage for the full 12. MacGregor's only chance is something aggressive early on and maybe make Mayweather mad with shiat talk. As long as Mayweather doesn't go full on BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD rage he can't lose.


Mayweather doesn't have to take him out with 1 shot.  I suspect MacGregor will take a great deal more damage than anyone Mayweather has fought recently because he just isn't a boxer.  His muscle memory won't really be right for this and neither will his instincts.  His guard also just won't be as good because it's been split between so many different things he needs to be good at.

People forget that Pacquio didn't get where he is today because he's an amazing puncher.  He's a great puncher, but everyone in boxing is a great puncher.  Floyd is an anomaly because he COULD hit you insanely hard but he'd break his glassy hands so he doesn't.

He's not known for his power but he has more than enough to tear the head off some guy who just won't be able to defend himself the way the top-level pros Floyd dances around can.
 
2017-07-14 05:16:14 PM  
Why does everyone think MacGregor is a knockout puncher? He fights with 4 ounce gloves, FFS. Floyd will completely outclass him and probably knock him out in 4 or 5 rounds. Every fighter Mayweather has faced is a better boxer than MacGregor and probably hits just as hard or harder. I don't like either one of these bums, to be honest. But if it's going to be a boxing match, Mayweather will completely own MacGregor. Much like MacGregor would kill Floyd in a MMA match. Ain't no way I'm buying this PPV.

/I'll probably chip in $5 to watch at a friend's house
 
2017-07-14 05:28:48 PM  
I was 10 when Rocky III came out and I thought then that his exhibition fight against Thunderlips (Hulk Hogan) was lame. I am 44 now and think everything is lame, but especially this.
 
2017-07-14 05:43:07 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Fark both of them. after this promotional tour I couldn't care less if they fought in the alley over a chicken bone. 2 pieces of shiat trying to out POS each other.


This

Im out of farks to give over this BS
I vow to not watch and help make these idiots more wealthy

WWE does a better job of putting on fake fights
 
2017-07-14 05:44:38 PM  
I'll find a stream, just like I did for Mayweather/Pac.

/bitaches aint gonna get my money
 
2017-07-14 06:39:03 PM  
Believe it or not I think there's actually something I care about less than the Kardashians and it's probably this fight.
 
2017-07-14 06:51:39 PM  

fatalvenom: I'll find a stream, just like I did for Mayweather/Pac.

/bitaches aint gonna get my money


Same.  And like that fight I'll have a bottle of scotch and enjoy the trainwreck.
 
2017-07-14 06:51:56 PM  
It won't be a knock out, it will be 12 rounds of Mayweather farming points before winning by decision. The arena will be completely empty during the undercard bouts because the people who can afford to watch a Mayweather fight in person don't give two rancid squirts of diarrhea about boxing. They're only there to be seen during the actual main event.
 
2017-07-14 06:55:16 PM  
I don't think McGregor will be able to go 12.

I think he will be stopped, gassed and bloody, in the mid rounds.
 
2017-07-14 07:38:17 PM  
The whole thing is ridiculous but guess what?  Every sports talk show and website is talking about it.
Anyone that thinks any of this isn't scripted or pre-planned is an idiot.

This is WWE, over the top level promotion.
 
2017-07-14 08:02:33 PM  
Aaaannnnndddd... Mayweather went and dug himself a *HUGE* hole by calling McGregor a fa**ot during today's London press conference. Let's see him try and talk himself out of *that* mess.
 
2017-07-14 08:10:17 PM  
I'll take Giant Meteor for $100, 4th round TKO
 
2017-07-14 08:36:53 PM  

Aezetyr: I'll take Giant Meteor for $100, 4th round TKO


I'd drop a grand on that bet.
 
2017-07-14 08:47:36 PM  
The outcome of this match has already been determined.

There are oil derricks that are less rigged than boxing and MMA.
 
2017-07-14 08:53:13 PM  

Gonz: The outcome of this match has already been determined.

There are oil derricks that are less rigged than boxing and MMA.


Mayweather, by split decision.
 
2017-07-14 09:00:04 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Aaaannnnndddd... Mayweather went and dug himself a *HUGE* hole by calling McGregor a fa**ot during today's London press conference. Let's see him try and talk himself out of *that* mess.


Which mess is that? The 100mm he's going to make?
 
2017-07-14 09:07:03 PM  

MugzyBrown: ClavellBCMI: Aaaannnnndddd... Mayweather went and dug himself a *HUGE* hole by calling McGregor a fa**ot during today's London press conference. Let's see him try and talk himself out of *that* mess.

Which mess is that? The 100mm he's going to make?


I think your irony-detector is broken
 
2017-07-14 09:10:30 PM  

MugzyBrown: ClavellBCMI: Aaaannnnndddd... Mayweather went and dug himself a *HUGE* hole by calling McGregor a fa**ot during today's London press conference. Let's see him try and talk himself out of *that* mess.

Which mess is that? The 100mm he's going to make?


Well, he does need it to pay the $22m in back taxes he owes from the Pacquiao fight. Not to mention the $25m he'll need to pay up on this purse. So more like $50m. Which is a lot, if he had any money sense he'd have retired a long time ago. Instead he's broke. Mayweather can't retire because he can't stop spending money. He'll die in the ring as a circus act fighting guys from the street for $20.
 
2017-07-14 10:18:45 PM  

swahnhennessy: I was 10 when Rocky III came out and I thought then that his exhibition fight against Thunderlips (Hulk Hogan) was lame. I am 44 now and think everything is lame, but especially this.


this is perfectly put.
 
2017-07-14 10:23:47 PM  
A huge ass; not worth the money.
 
2017-07-14 11:37:56 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Aezetyr: I'll take Giant Meteor for $100, 4th round TKO

I'd drop a grand on that bet.


Just 'cause it's the most desirable outcome doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

/didnt happen for inauguration or the Super Bowl, either
 
2017-07-15 09:59:31 AM  

One Bad Apple: jake_lex: Mayweather will dance around and frustrate McGregor, who'll do something dumb to try to get to him, giving Mayweather his opening.  If this goes 3 rounds I'll be shocked.


If this doesn't go to the judges I will be shocked. When was the last time Mayweather one shotted anyone ? Mayweather can easily out point MacGregor and avoid any damage for the full 12. MacGregor's only chance is something aggressive early on and maybe make Mayweather mad with shiat talk. As long as Mayweather doesn't go full on BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD rage he can't lose.


Don't the AMA fighters only go 3 rounds, I know the white guy is in excellent shape but could he go a full 12 rounds and not start to tire?
/don't follow AMA
//haven't followed boxing since Tyson
 
2017-07-15 11:26:49 AM  

swahnhennessy: I was 10 when Rocky III came out and I thought then that his exhibition fight against Thunderlips (Hulk Hogan) was lame. I am 44 now and think everything is lame, but especially this.


The crazy thing is in Rocky IV, Stallone seemed to feel some need to prove himself against the towering Lundgren (who was an actual kickboxer*) and insisted (as director) on making it more a "real fight".  He wound up in the hospital with a detached kidney.

This match is unlikely to be as "real" as that fight.

* kickboxing wasn't anything like MMA.  It was basically boxing with a minimum number of kicks.  It (and Australian rules football) were what ESPN showed before they developed "two guys shouting at each other").
 
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