Dubwise: It seems like it isn't helpful if you don't understand what the word jihad actually means. Jihad translates literally to "effort" or "struggle."
Hey you people scare-sharing Linda Sarsour's speech, read this transcription, which I just made because you all are trash misquoting her. pic.twitter.com/mzBWN6mhl9- Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) July 6, 2017
Hey you people scare-sharing Linda Sarsour's speech, read this transcription, which I just made because you all are trash misquoting her. pic.twitter.com/mzBWN6mhl9
Dusk-You-n-Me: Hey you people scare-sharing Linda Sarsour's speech, read this transcription, which I just made because you all are trash misquoting her. pic.twitter.com/mzBWN6mhl9- Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) July 6, 2017[img.fark.net image 688x728]
fusillade762: Dubwise: It seems like it isn't helpful if you don't understand what the word jihad actually means. Jihad translates literally to "effort" or "struggle."Problem is a lot of Americans don't. A lot of them intentionally. This is just more fodder for Fox and right-wing radio to scare their old white audience.
spamdog: Libs honest to god defending jihad here
Chemlight Battery: Dubwise: It seems like it isn't helpful if you don't understand what the word jihad actually means. Jihad translates literally to "effort" or "struggle."No it doesn't. I speak Arabic. Anyone who claims "jihad" simply means "struggle" either doesn't fully understand Arabic, doesn't fully understand English, or is intentionally trying to take advantage of the fact that whomever they're saying this to doesn't understand Arabic. Yes, it is based on a root word that means "struggle." To an English speaker, that may seem like it means something, but Arabic has a much, much, much smaller vocabulary than English. Every word in Arabic, with very few exceptions, is based on a very small number of three-letter root words. In place of a large number of root words, it has a large number of possible suffixes, prefixes, and interfixes to alter a root word to mean what you want. So any word with a meaning even remotely related to any kind of "struggle" is going have the jhd three-letter root in it somewhere, but the word you make after applying the necessary morphology is NOT the same as the root word. And "jihad" does NOT mean the same as its root word "jahada."That being said, I don't see how an intellectually honest person can take this particular occurrence as a call to violence.
Lee Jackson Beauregard: spamdog: Libs honest to god defending jihad hereIf she used a word other than jihad, would you change your mind?
dailygrinds: WHAT JIHAD ISThe Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in a purely linguistic sense, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.The arabic word for war is: "al-harb".In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted.Military action is therefore only one means of jihad, and is very rare. To highlight this point, the Prophet Mohammed told his followers returning from a military campaign: "This day we have returned from the minor jihad to the major jihad," which he said meant returning from armed battle to the peaceful battle for self-control and betterment.In case military action appears necessary, not everyone can declare jihad. The religious military campaign has to be declared by a proper authority, advised by scholars, who say the religion and people are under threat and violence is imperative to defend them. The concept of "just war" is very important.The concept of jihad has been hijacked by many political and religious groups over the ages in a bid to justify various forms of violence. In most cases, Islamic splinter groups invoked jihad to fight against the established Islamic order. Scholars say this misuse of jihad contradicts Islam.Examples of sanctioned military jihad include the Muslims' defensive battles against the Crusaders in medieval times, and before that some responses by Muslims against Byzantine and Persian attacks during the period of the early Islamic conquests.WHAT JIHAD IS NOTJihad is not a violent concept.Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam. Scholars says most calls for violent jihad are not sanctioned by Islam.Warfare in the name of God is not unique to Islam. Other faiths throughout the world have waged wars with religious justifications
edmo: It's amazing there are people who will insist their imaginary definition of a word trumps it's actual meaning.
Ribb Rotgut: Fark bonus: "sarsour" means cockroach in Arabic.
OhioUGrad: and anyone on the left that wants to accomplish anything should distance themselves from her.
Dusk-You-n-Me: OhioUGrad: and anyone on the left that wants to accomplish anything should distance themselves from her.gee it's a wonder dems are called spineless
Far Cough: Dusk-You-n-Me: OhioUGrad: and anyone on the left that wants to accomplish anything should distance themselves from her.gee it's a wonder dems are called spinelessYeah because standing fast by an unlikeable poorly spoken politician with questionable judgment worked out so well for us last time.
mcnguyen: I'm not sure why liberals would care what some backwards hick sky-fairy worshiper thinks. Especially one that supports a cult that treats women so horribly.
Jacobite_55: Dubwise: It seems like it isn't helpful if you don't understand what the word jihad actually means. Jihad translates literally to "effort" or "struggle."...I've read the Quoran (of course that means I probably no less than someone who hasn't) and have read articles by many Muslims and Imams (sp?) on Islamic thought and teachings. They've noted the dual nature of the word jihad. Jihad being both internal and external struggles.The external struggle was not limited to just words but included ALL actions to repel an oppressor. Ms. Sarsour is defining it as the external struggle but words only. Okay, but since that is not defined in the term itself, the listener has to accept it as they hear it.The larger issue though, while Ms. Sarsour assures us that the prophet said the struggle against an oppressor is the highest form of jihad, I have also been assured by a variety of Muslims and Islamic scholars that the Quoran and writing teach that INTERNAL jihad, the struggle against one's base inner nature, is the highest form of jihad and the one that is hardest for Muslims.So somebody's fibbing. ...
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