Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(AZCentral)   Sheriff Joe still hates due process   ( azcentral.com) divider line
    More: Facepalm, Supreme Court of the United States, Lawyer, Supreme Court, Criminal law, United States, Jury, Arpaio, Sheriff Joe Arpaio  
•       •       •

9061 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Jul 2017 at 8:05 PM (15 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



51 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2017-07-06 04:46:07 PM  
Throw him in jail and make him pick up the trash in a pink tutu.
 
2017-07-06 04:51:52 PM  
I hope he gets some jail time, even if it's only a very short term because of his age and the fact that it's a misdemeanor charge. Even 30 days would send the appropriate message to him and the public at large.
 
2017-07-06 08:06:50 PM  
Since when has he ever cared about the law?
 
2017-07-06 08:10:07 PM  
I hope SCOTUS not only denies the request, but openly laughs in his face. The arrogance of this asshole is colossal - it's a goddamned misdemeanor charge that would've been handled off-handedly for just about any other American. Shut up, take your lumps, do your time, and learn to be a better person, Joe Arpaio.

After all, isn't that what you used to tell so many others that you arrested and detained, there, Joe?
 
2017-07-06 08:10:10 PM  
Has there ever BEEN a jury trial held for contempt of court? Not just in the US, but like anywhere?

Contempt of court seems like one of those things the judge just warns you to stop doing or be charged and then you get charged
 
2017-07-06 08:10:11 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-07-06 08:10:32 PM  
did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.
 
2017-07-06 08:11:13 PM  
Hopefully Joe is the first of many pieces of conservative/GOP offal that will get their due.
 
2017-07-06 08:13:45 PM  
Unfortunately, this asshole will probably never see a day in jail with "those people" but he certainly deserves to.
 
2017-07-06 08:16:40 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.


I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.


img.fark.net

 
2017-07-06 08:17:40 PM  
I always wonder what leads lawyers to file guaranteed loser motions like this.  "I have a great idea!  Let's spend lots of money doing something completely useless!"
 
2017-07-06 08:17:47 PM  
He didn't follow a court order to stop his unconstitutional behavior, and the only thing he gets charged with is a misdemeanor.  Seems to me ignoring the court over something so serious ought to be a felony, and a big one.
 
2017-07-06 08:18:10 PM  

skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]


OH COME ON!

The guy has beard beads for fark sake.
 
2017-07-06 08:20:25 PM  

Dickbong: skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]

OH COME ON!

The guy has beard beads for fark sake.


And an earring.

You know who else has earrings?  Women and pirates.  And I don't see a parrot.
 
2017-07-06 08:22:05 PM  

Raoul Eaton: I always wonder what leads lawyers to file guaranteed loser motions like this.  "I have a great idea!  Let's spend lots of money doing something completely useless!"


Pretty sure they follow the example of the people who make the laws to begin with.
 
2017-07-06 08:22:57 PM  
I am NOT a fan of that bigoted blowhard but...

-Subby, if you were charged with a crime, would you want to go to trial and not mount a vigorous defense no matter how ridiculous your defense may appear? You're not shelling out $500 an hour for your attorney to make nice-nice.
-Due process is due process regardless of who we are. Mostly.
-If convicted, Arpopo won't see a day in lock-up.
-Contempt charges can appear in many forms. This isn't one of those situations like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey, calling a judge a dumbass in open court. In this case, trial is needed to prove that he willfully violated a court order.
 
2017-07-06 08:26:01 PM  

skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]


I can't be specific but THIS. I work with a group of high-level legal big shots whose knowledge is brilliant but I wouldn't let them get close to my pet rock.
 
2017-07-06 08:29:48 PM  

skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]


That lawyer looks like a younger Muammar Gaddafi
 
2017-07-06 08:30:27 PM  

fappomatic: I am NOT a fan of that bigoted blowhard but...

-Subby, if you were charged with a crime, would you want to go to trial and not mount a vigorous defense no matter how ridiculous your defense may appear? You're not shelling out $500 an hour for your attorney to make nice-nice.
-Due process is due process regardless of who we are. Mostly.
-If convicted, Arpopo won't see a day in lock-up.
-Contempt charges can appear in many forms. This isn't one of those situations like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey, calling a judge a dumbass in open court. In this case, trial is needed to prove that he willfully violated a court order.


Although, apparently, the law this is due process of doesn't include a trial by jury. Any AZfark lawyers around to clarify?
 
2017-07-06 08:32:57 PM  

FormlessOne: I hope SCOTUS not only denies the request, but openly laughs in his face. The arrogance of this asshole is colossal - it's a goddamned misdemeanor charge that would've been handled off-handedly for just about any other American. Shut up, take your lumps, do your time, and learn to be a better person, Joe Arpaio.

After all, isn't that what you used to tell so many others that you arrested and detained, there, Joe?


He has harmed many, many people with inhumane methods. What makes you think SCOTUS won't grant his request and he'll walk free to hurt more people? In what reality do you think we live in?
 
2017-07-06 08:36:28 PM  
He won't spend so much as 1 day in lock-up.  Basically,  he got away with it.
 
2017-07-06 08:37:03 PM  

fappomatic: I am NOT a fan of that bigoted blowhard but...

-Subby, if you were charged with a crime, would you want to go to trial and not mount a vigorous defense no matter how ridiculous your defense may appear? You're not shelling out $500 an hour for your attorney to make nice-nice.
-Due process is due process regardless of who we are. Mostly.
-If convicted, Arpopo won't see a day in lock-up.
-Contempt charges can appear in many forms. This isn't one of those situations like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey, calling a judge a dumbass in open court. In this case, trial is needed to prove that he willfully violated a court order.


You're right in that he didn't commit direct contempt, like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey.

He's charged with indirect criminal contempt by disobeying a lawful court order, and "the requirement of a jury does not apply to 'contempts committed in disobedience of any lawful writ, process, order, rule, decree, or command entered in any suit or action brought or prosecuted in the name of, or on behalf of, the United States.'"

A trial is not only not needed, but doesn't actually apply here at all - he's already had the same due process that anyone else receives. He's been given a huge amount of latitude, in fact, during his rebuttal and defense of the contempt charge. His defense has already conceded that he did, indeed, commit indirect criminal contempt - they tried, instead, to claim that Joe didn't willfully violate the court order, as he blamed it on his lawyer and others.

No, what Joe's doing here is a last-ditch effort to get a "do-over," which won't happen as the vast preponderance of law says that he's screwed. There's no way that SCOTUS is going to overturn decades, if not centuries, of established precedent to give Joe Arpaio a jury trial for indirect criminal contempt - the very act would undermine judicial authority, as anyone who wanted to ignore or violate a court order would then demand a jury trial to defend their actions.
 
2017-07-06 08:39:01 PM  

Pichu0102: FormlessOne: I hope SCOTUS not only denies the request, but openly laughs in his face. The arrogance of this asshole is colossal - it's a goddamned misdemeanor charge that would've been handled off-handedly for just about any other American. Shut up, take your lumps, do your time, and learn to be a better person, Joe Arpaio.

After all, isn't that what you used to tell so many others that you arrested and detained, there, Joe?

He has harmed many, many people with inhumane methods. What makes you think SCOTUS won't grant his request and he'll walk free to hurt more people? In what reality do you think we live in?


Because SCOTUS would have to overturn a shiatload of precedent to do so? Because he's already admitted his guilt? Because he's only doing this to avoid going to jail?

SCOTUS may be a bit more biased than I'd like lately, but, no, they're not going to destroy decades of judicial authority by granting Joe Arpaio a jury trial for a clearly deliberate contempt of court.
 
2017-07-06 08:39:14 PM  

Aquapope: He didn't follow a court order to stop his unconstitutional behavior, and the only thing he gets charged with is a misdemeanor.  Seems to me ignoring the court over something so serious ought to be a felony, and a big one.


"My lawyer didn't explain to me that court orders don't come in varying degrees of enforceability depending entirely on my opinion of them. I just can't believe courts can tell me what to do." *DING* Realizes he has to say this to a judge. *DONG* "Hey, maybe I can get a court to tell you what to do, Judge."

/And throw away the keys, your honor.
 
2017-07-06 08:40:30 PM  

felching pen: fappomatic: I am NOT a fan of that bigoted blowhard but...

-Subby, if you were charged with a crime, would you want to go to trial and not mount a vigorous defense no matter how ridiculous your defense may appear? You're not shelling out $500 an hour for your attorney to make nice-nice.
-Due process is due process regardless of who we are. Mostly.
-If convicted, Arpopo won't see a day in lock-up.
-Contempt charges can appear in many forms. This isn't one of those situations like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey, calling a judge a dumbass in open court. In this case, trial is needed to prove that he willfully violated a court order.

Although, apparently, the law this is due process of doesn't include a trial by jury. Any AZfark lawyers around to clarify?


I never mentioned a jury. Only a trial. I refer to my first statement. He faces federal charges and US code allows for trial by jury for criminal charges where the penalty may be incarceration of six months, or more.

Will it be granted? Only if his lawyers have their shiat together. Although it is unlikely.
His lawyers are smart enough to know they can request it. They won't risk censure for requesting something disallowed by the rules of the court.
 
2017-07-06 08:42:33 PM  
This guy is such a tool. No, scratch that, tools are useful. This guy is a douche. Yeah that works better.
 
2017-07-06 08:43:02 PM  

Raoul Eaton: I always wonder what leads lawyers to file guaranteed loser motions like this.  "I have a great idea!  Let's spend lots of money doing something completely useless!"


Billable hours.
 
2017-07-06 08:43:34 PM  

felching pen: Although, apparently, the law this is due process of doesn't include a trial by jury. Any AZfark lawyers around to clarify?


It's a misdemeanor. You can't get a jury trial for a speeding ticket either.
 
2017-07-06 08:45:01 PM  

fappomatic: felching pen: fappomatic: I am NOT a fan of that bigoted blowhard but...

-Subby, if you were charged with a crime, would you want to go to trial and not mount a vigorous defense no matter how ridiculous your defense may appear? You're not shelling out $500 an hour for your attorney to make nice-nice.
-Due process is due process regardless of who we are. Mostly.
-If convicted, Arpopo won't see a day in lock-up.
-Contempt charges can appear in many forms. This isn't one of those situations like the moron lawyer, Joe Morrissey, calling a judge a dumbass in open court. In this case, trial is needed to prove that he willfully violated a court order.

Although, apparently, the law this is due process of doesn't include a trial by jury. Any AZfark lawyers around to clarify?

I never mentioned a jury. Only a trial. I refer to my first statement. He faces federal charges and US code allows for trial by jury for criminal charges where the penalty may be incarceration of six months, or more.

Will it be granted? Only if his lawyers have their shiat together. Although it is unlikely.
His lawyers are smart enough to know they can request it. They won't risk censure for requesting something disallowed by the rules of the court.


I stand corrected, the lawyers are requesting a jury trial. As for the rest, I'll listen in while you and FormlessOne discuss.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
2017-07-06 08:47:09 PM  

skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]


Commercialpilot-itis
 
2017-07-06 08:47:36 PM  

sunderland56: felching pen: Although, apparently, the law this is due process of doesn't include a trial by jury. Any AZfark lawyers around to clarify?

It's a misdemeanor. You can't get a jury trial for a speeding ticket either.


I'll have to go faster. Can I borrow your Veyron?
 
2017-07-06 09:14:42 PM  
WTF is Hagrid doing there?
 
2017-07-06 09:16:21 PM  
Well Trump like him and Trump does have a man on the court, so there is a chance.
 
2017-07-06 09:20:04 PM  
I'm having a feeling right now that I can't quite describe. I think there's a word for it. Shade? Freud? Something. It's quite delicious.
 
2017-07-06 09:34:01 PM  
I would love to see him locked up in one of his own slum prisons.  He would last probably about 3.8 minutes.
 
2017-07-06 09:44:44 PM  
I see Duke Rolo has decided to try his hand at lawyering.
 
2017-07-06 09:49:02 PM  
Don't you usually go to the SCOTUS after your trial while trying to appeal something or other? We're not talking a travel ban here.
 
2017-07-06 09:56:10 PM  
i have the perfect place to put him...

tse3.mm.bing.net

and leave him out in one of his tents where former inmates can take turns watering him
 
2017-07-06 10:00:17 PM  

Pichu0102: FormlessOne: I hope SCOTUS not only denies the request, but openly laughs in his face. The arrogance of this asshole is colossal - it's a goddamned misdemeanor charge that would've been handled off-handedly for just about any other American. Shut up, take your lumps, do your time, and learn to be a better person, Joe Arpaio.

After all, isn't that what you used to tell so many others that you arrested and detained, there, Joe?

He has harmed many, many people with inhumane methods. What makes you think SCOTUS won't grant his request and he'll walk free to hurt more people? In what reality do you think we live in?


How about the reality where he was voted out of office back in November?
/just another civilian now
 
2017-07-06 10:15:04 PM  
Like the Trumpster, X Sheriff Joe believes in law and order as long as the decisions go his way. The Supremes should ignore Joe's request.  I would enjoy seeing video of Joe wearing bright pink DOC clothes cleaning predominately minority neighborhoods.
 
2017-07-06 10:43:23 PM  

rudemix: Hopefully Joe is the first of many pieces of conservative/GOP offal that will get their due.


Hasn't happened yet. I expect things to only get worse and worse as conservatives quintuple down on the stupidity and evil.
 
2017-07-06 10:47:58 PM  
May justice be done.
 
2017-07-06 11:54:26 PM  
If there is any justice in this world, I hope motherfarkers like this guy and that douchecanoe from Wisconsin, Sheriff David Clarke die in their own shiatty jails.
 
2017-07-07 12:14:39 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: He won't spend so much as 1 day in lock-up.  Basically,  he got away with it.


He's had DECADES of living in wealth well beyond what he was being paid by the state. He got away with corruption for many years, and harmed so very many lives.

And now, at the tail end of his life he MIGHT (but won't) get 6 months in jail. He already won. He lived in luxury his whole life, so what's some token, bullshiat punishment at the end of his life?

He may lose the case, but he already won.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html
 
2017-07-07 12:49:46 AM  
Joe Arpaio for  Director, FBI
 
2017-07-07 01:24:40 AM  
Huh. Apparently Captain Lou Albano is alive and practicing law.
 
2017-07-07 01:57:42 AM  

OK So Amuse Me: This guy is such a tool. No, scratch that, tools are useful. This guy is a douche. Yeah that works better.


Stop insulting my douches. They help.
 
2017-07-07 07:38:18 AM  

fappomatic: skinink: Plant Rights Activist: did he hire the douchiest looking attorney to make himself look more likable?  I can't tell if that's brilliant or stupid.

I work in a law firm, and I swear many of the attorneys possess the one skill of being good with the law. Other than that, they are the equivalent of some IT guy who has that rockstar attitude of being the best out there. Being good at one thing doesn't make them some big shot.

[img.fark.net image 457x300]

I can't be specific but THIS. I work with a group of high-level legal big shots whose knowledge is brilliant but I wouldn't let them get close to my pet rock.


Spill it!
Details or no gold star, no cover story, and no soup for you!
×^D
No, really- unidentifiable anecdotes from an 'expert source' can even get you a book deal.

/moar nao
//I need cawfee
///icy mocha icy france
 
2017-07-07 08:25:39 AM  
I'm surprised his window licking supporters haven't called on Trump to fire the judge
 
2017-07-07 10:33:05 AM  
So his excuse is the same one the GOP uses for Trump. Can't expect him to be competent in his job. And besides it;s the fault of others for not properly explaining it to them.
Personal responsibility is not just something you yell at the poors and colored.
 
Displayed 50 of 51 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking

On Twitter





Top Commented
Javascript is required to view headlines in widget.
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report