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2017-07-05 05:21:17 PM  
I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.
 
2017-07-05 06:40:00 PM  
Oh yeah--she definitely started a riot and blocked traffic.
 
2017-07-05 06:43:21 PM  
All this over some guy smoking a joint. Or what they claim was a joint.


CruiserTwelve: I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.


Lick harder, you missed a spot.
 
2017-07-05 06:53:33 PM  
Linked on same page.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/police-officer-facing-charges-af​t​er-alleged-assault/550626163

Reaction and expert police perspective on this story from our own CruiserTwelve.

"I'd love to hear the officers truthful report. That is, the entire entire police truth and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.
forum.gon.com
 
2017-07-05 07:18:11 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.


No you wouldn't.
 
2017-07-05 08:18:15 PM  

fusillade762: Lick harder, you missed a spot.


Very intelligent and well thought out counter argument.

Nowhere in my post did I defend the cops involved nor even imply a defense.

The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

So carry on.
 
2017-07-05 08:20:20 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Linked on same page.

[forum.gon.com image 480x343]


Have you noticed that the article you linked to directly controverts the picture you posted?
 
2017-07-05 08:47:18 PM  
Oh god, are they going to add 'STOP INCITING!' to their repertoire?
 
2017-07-05 08:49:07 PM  

CruiserTwelve: fusillade762: Lick harder, you missed a spot.

Very intelligent and well thought out counter argument.

Nowhere in my post did I defend the cops involved nor even imply a defense.

The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

So carry on.


You see officer, I've seen you on the beat here before, and I know what your routine is. So we can dispense with the disingenuousness.
 
2017-07-05 08:50:42 PM  
She get 25 to life.
 
2017-07-05 08:51:43 PM  
She'll
 
2017-07-05 08:53:27 PM  

CruiserTwelve: The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.


Okay, let's see the cops' video too then.  She gave you more evidence than they did.
 
2017-07-05 08:53:28 PM  
Cops lie. All the time. Water wet, sun hot.
 
2017-07-05 08:56:16 PM  
CruiserTwelve:

Cops lie.
By default, best to assume both parties are lying in any situation.

But when a cop is involved, they are professional thugs and routinely deal in untruths and violence to inflict their will upon those whom they find inconvenient: ie non-cops.

So, while this lady is most likely lying to her benefit, and the video is most certainly edited, she is just one lady. But the police who arrested her are the willing brothers of rapists, theives, and murderers who proudly kill, rob, and kidnap people for fun and profit by the very uniform they wear.

So, quite frankly, their word has a much higher hill to climb than any random stranger's.
 
2017-07-05 08:57:33 PM  

CruiserTwelve: fusillade762: Lick harder, you missed a spot.

Very intelligent and well thought out counter argument.

Nowhere in my post did I defend the cops involved nor even imply a defense.

The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

So carry on.


I dunno, I watched like 4 minutes of the shiat on YouTube the other day. She was taken down hard, but she seemed to be a little in the wrong.
 
2017-07-05 08:57:41 PM  
CruiserTwelve:

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

The problem is that US LEOs have earned a very low trust metric over many years. Lately, video evidence has begun to rectify the problem, unfortunately it keeps happening that - for example - abusive cops walk AFTER timestamped video is published, so they aren't really gaining any trust.

Then there's the whole madness in Indiana where the state supreme court decreed that an officer's word has more weight than a timestamped video...
 
2017-07-05 08:57:58 PM  

Fano: You see officer, I've seen you on the beat here before, and I know what your routine is.


No, you're not judging me based on previous posts, you're judging me based on a belief that, because I was a cop, I must think the way that you believe all cops think.

You're wrong.

But let's not talk about me, let's talk about the article. What do you think happened based on what you know about this incident?
 
2017-07-05 08:58:05 PM  

CruiserTwelve: fusillade762: Lick harder, you missed a spot.

Very intelligent and well thought out counter argument.

Nowhere in my post did I defend the cops involved nor even imply a defense.

The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

So carry on.


Normally I would agree with you. However these are not normal times.

Police in America have almost no accountability to speak of. They routinely get away with literal murder. A combination of decades of legal changes, being members of some of the strongest of the few unions left in America, a strong undercurrent of authoritarian leanings of juries, training to escalate situations and respond with maximum force, a strong militaristic "us vs. them" attitude within the ranks of police, and other factors have all combined into a perfect shiatstorm of police hardly ever being held accountable for their crimes - or even just mistakes that cost people their lives.

When that changes, and there is a reasonably realistic expectation that human beings employed as police will be held to account for their crimes, mistakes, and overreactions then I will give all parties the benefit of the doubt. Until then, I will conciously choose to ALWAYS give the other party that benefit of the doubt, and not the police, and I will never trust the police. The human beings employed as police already have the whole deck stacked in their favor. They don't need my benefit of the doubt and trust as well. if they don't like it, then they and their unions should work to fix that rather than vigorously fighting any progress on that front - even slandering those who dare suggest they be reigned in at all.
 
2017-07-05 09:02:29 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Fano: You see officer, I've seen you on the beat here before, and I know what your routine is.

No, you're not judging me based on previous posts, you're judging me based on a belief that, because I was a cop, I must think the way that you believe all cops think.

You're wrong.

But let's not talk about me, let's talk about the article. What do you think happened based on what you know about this incident?


well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.
 
2017-07-05 09:06:37 PM  

Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.


That's not how laws work
 
2017-07-05 09:08:46 PM  
Sue iiieeee pig pig pig
login in failed to the nsa thanks drew for selling us all out to data miners and misc fascists
 
2017-07-05 09:10:13 PM  

spiritplumber: Then there's the whole madness in Indiana where the state supreme court decreed that an officer's word has more weight than a timestamped video...


Say what?!  Do you have a link to an article about this?
 
2017-07-05 09:11:00 PM  

CruiserTwelve: fusillade762: Lick harder, you missed a spot.

Very intelligent and well thought out counter argument.

Nowhere in my post did I defend the cops involved nor even imply a defense.

The article contains about 20-30 seconds of video of an incident that probably lasted far longer than that, and the only explanation of the video is provided by a young lady that was arrested and is now claiming she did nothing wrong.

If you want to judge this situation on the evidence provided, you're certainly allowed to do that. However, it's dishonest and inaccurate to do so. It's absolutely legitimate and valid to want to see the rest of the video before passing judgement. But I understand this is Fark, and all it takes is an accusation to convince certain Farkers that the cops involved were evil and abusive.

So carry on.


you defended the police when you pointed to the editing of the video as evidence the subject of the report was lying.
 
2017-07-05 09:11:23 PM  

spamdog: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

That's not how laws work


Residents of Colorado, Washington, etc., disagree.
 
2017-07-05 09:13:45 PM  
Never trust someone with a neck tattoo.

Just saying.
 
2017-07-05 09:14:29 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.


The way you are using quotation marks implies you don't believe her.  Later you complain that people are jumping to conclusions.  Maybe you don't know how air quotes work, or maybe you are being disingenuous further down.  It's very likely that the reporter watched the whole video and picked which sections to show because of time constraints.  By jumping to the conclusion that the tape has been edited to only show the woman's side of the story you've undermined your whole argument. 

Yes, it would be nice to see the whole video.  Maybe you are convinced that all reporters lie (if you do, you are buying into the same sort of stereotype that you are accusing other people of).  It would be nice if the cops had video.  In the limited amount of video we did see it looked like she wasn't the problem.  If the cops want to charge they should have some evidence of their own, particularly in light of the evidence that she wasn't causing a problem.

If you'd avoided air quotes people might also have taken you seriously.
 
2017-07-05 09:15:37 PM  

spamdog: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

That's not how laws work


Prioritizing enforcement against minorities is sadly how the law 'works'
 
2017-07-05 09:20:56 PM  
in other news...8 seconds now constitutes a full length video.
 
2017-07-05 09:21:11 PM  

HoratioGates: CruiserTwelve: I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.

The way you are using quotation marks implies you don't believe her.  Later you complain that people are jumping to conclusions.  Maybe you don't know how air quotes work, or maybe you are being disingenuous further down.  It's very likely that the reporter watched the whole video and picked which sections to show because of time constraints.  By jumping to the conclusion that the tape has been edited to only show the woman's side of the story you've undermined your whole argument. 

Yes, it would be nice to see the whole video.  Maybe you are convinced that all reporters lie (if you do, you are buying into the same sort of stereotype that you are accusing other people of).  It would be nice if the cops had video.  In the limited amount of video we did see it looked like she wasn't the problem.  If the cops want to charge they should have some evidence of their own, particularly in light of the evidence that she wasn't causing a problem.

If you'd avoided air quotes people might also have taken you seriously.


www.reactiongifs.com

he reflexively defends the cops no matter how unconscionable their behavior. then he wants a farking cookie for taking the time to give his opinion.
 
2017-07-05 09:21:30 PM  

Spermbot: spiritplumber: Then there's the whole madness in Indiana where the state supreme court decreed that an officer's word has more weight than a timestamped video...

Say what?!  Do you have a link to an article about this?



I do. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140405/17142626817/indiana-suprem​e​-court-declares-officers-testimony-is-more-reliable-than-video-evidenc​e.shtml  I would actually like CruiserTwelve's opinion

Like I said, right now we have a paradoxical situation in which LEOs have a very low trust score with the public but an excessively high trust score with the people in charge of operating justice. That's a problem. Past a certain point, you are no longer a law enforcement operation, you're an occupying army. We need to make sure we don't reach that point, for the sake of the whole society.
 
2017-07-05 09:24:59 PM  
Everybody please give CruiserTwelve the attention he so desperately craves.  Getting abused by random dudes on the internet seems to be what he is into.  Nothing wrong with that, fwiw.
 
2017-07-05 09:26:01 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: spamdog: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

That's not how laws work

Residents of Colorado, Washington, etc., disagree.


Did this occur in Colorado or Washington ?
 
2017-07-05 09:26:54 PM  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2wXSiMlvjU

we used to love people that loved freedom now... we love people that hate us for loving freedom, thanks all of you murderous fascists that hired the SS to spy on the ruskies

yes I am talking about you bushes and Dulles brothers, you bunch of farking traitors

everyone that worked for any level of US government since WWII is a traitor and should DIAF.
 
2017-07-05 09:26:59 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Giant Clown Shoe: Linked on same page.

[forum.gon.com image 480x343]

Have you noticed that the article you linked to directly controverts the picture you posted?


you're funny.

hubris before the fall. 

/the world needs bartenders too.
//lunkhead cops act like they've been conscripted
///ever wonder why the reaction when someone puts a hole in a cop is shifting from "that sucks" to "tough shiat"? just read his condescending, didactic responses.
 
2017-07-05 09:27:24 PM  

spamdog: No I'm just being perfectly realistic. My judgement isn't clouded by the kind of white guilt some liberals suffer from.


Why are you even here?  Did every website in your own country ban you for making stupid comments?
 
2017-07-05 09:27:50 PM  
RTFA?

img.fark.net
 
2017-07-05 09:28:47 PM  

karmaceutical: Everybody please give CruiserTwelve the attention he so desperately craves.  Getting abused by random dudes on the internet seems to be what he is into.  Nothing wrong with that, fwiw.


You all did the usual Fark knee-jerk thing and dogpiled him - yet he's at fault for your emotionally dysregulated asses?
 
2017-07-05 09:29:18 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Cops lie. All the time. Water wet, sun hot.


Beer bad. Tree pretty.
 
2017-07-05 09:29:48 PM  
Fark hates cops, we get it.
 
2017-07-05 09:32:13 PM  

Begoggle: Fark hates cops, we get it.


that's the spirit!  ain't gonna make any clicks sitting around playin patty-cake!
 
2017-07-05 09:38:04 PM  

CruiserTwelve: not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.


And this is where you showed your disingenuousness.

You could have just said, "I'd like to see an unedited version of the complete video. This would give us a clearer picture of who was in the wrong." Instead, you chose to characterize the video and prejudge the girl.
 
2017-07-05 09:40:49 PM  

AllUpInYa: thisisyourbrainonFark: spamdog: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

That's not how laws work

Residents of Colorado, Washington, etc., disagree.

Did this occur in Colorado or Washington ?

vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2017-07-05 09:46:08 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I'd love to see the video. That is, the entire video and not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-05 09:46:39 PM  

CruiserTwelve: No, you're not judging me based on previous posts, you're judging me based on a belief that, because I was a cop, I must think the way that you believe all cops think.

You're wrong.


Then why do you pretend to be a dirty cop on every article about the police that is posted to Fark? What happens if you miss one?
 
2017-07-05 09:48:11 PM  
Rational people hate cops, authoritarian fascists don't, we may have lost the last war but that does not mean many more people will die, it was 67 million last time but even at thousands to one humans will win, not even pigs
 
2017-07-05 09:50:28 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: CruiserTwelve: not the highly edited, "I didn't do nothing wrong," version designed to elicit controversy and sympathy for the poor "victim" of the police.

And this is where you showed your disingenuousness.

You could have just said, "I'd like to see an unedited version of the complete video. This would give us a clearer picture of who was in the wrong." Instead, you chose to characterize the video and prejudge the girl.


img.fark.net
That's why I had less patience than usual for this schtick today. But hey, that's just my lying eyes telling me stuff
 
2017-07-05 09:51:22 PM  

CruiserTwelve: No, you're not judging me based on previous posts


I am. I've been reading your pro cop propaganda for years.

You're reflexive cop defender no matter the circumstance and you imagine bc you do it w/out pejoratives you're some friend of the people?  Bullshiat.

You truly believe cops deserve the right to hurt people and be excused regardless the circumstance.
 
2017-07-05 09:51:59 PM  

Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.


Okay, ignoring your obvious bias, I'll respond to that.

Here's what you're apparently thinking: A bunch of young people are standing innocently on a street corner doing nothing more that smoking some weed, and the cops came along and harassed them. This started a chain of actions that culminated in the unnecessary arrest of the young lady in the video.

Here's what I see: A bunch of kids hang out on the same street corner every night, despite the fact that the cops have probably told them every night not to congregate and smoke dope. The reason the cops told them that? Because very likely the people of that neighborhood call the cops every night and complain about them, and those same neighbors have attended city council meeting to complain about these kids. The city council has heard statements like" I can't walk down my own street without these dopeheads harassing me." " I can't let my kids outside to play because these thugs give them a hard time." Or even the race card: "If this was happening in a white neighborhood, the cops wouldn't tolerate it. But because it's a black neighborhood they just drive right on by."

Yes, those things actually happen and I know about it first hand.

So the cops get memos from the chief's office to clean up that corner, and they get calls from neighbors nightly about it.

They've told those kids a hundred times to go somewhere else, but with no effect.

So one night the cops drive by and see one of them smoking dope. They stop and check his ID (notice they didn't even arrest him at that point) and when they find he has a warrant, only then do they decide to arrest him. He physically resists, dragging the cops down the street for 30 or 40 feet with his friends following and screaming at them. They finally get this kid under control, and try to break up the crowd that has now gathered and is causing a threat to their personal welfare and well as a threat of escalating into something they can't control.

Yes, these situations scare the shiat out of cops.

They order people to back off and leave, but this young lady, angry that her friend just got arrested, refuses to leave and stays there yelling at the cops and defying their efforts to restore order. After being told numerous time to leave, the cops arrest her.

Knowing it's a white cop and a black defendant, and the media just loves such a story, she goes to the media and they lap it up and present it in a way that makes it controversial, because controversy sells.

So it become s Fark thread and the cop-haters use it to justify their blind hatred, refusing to believe anything that challenges their opinions and calling those who disagree "copsuckers" and worse because it's hard to actually defend a position based on misinformation and biased bullshiat. They don't care to see the thousands of times cops do their job properly and even heroically at times every day, and instead choose to judge the cops by the unfortunate few that abuse their authority.
 
2017-07-05 09:54:05 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

Okay, ignoring your obvious bias, I'll respond to that.

Here's what you're apparently thinking: A bunch of young people are standing innocently on a street corner doing nothing more that smoking some weed, and the cops came along and harassed them. This started a chain of actions that culminated in the unnecessary arrest of the young lady in the video.

Here's what I see: A bunch of kids hang out on the same street corner every night, despite the fact that the cops have probably told them every night not to congregate and smoke dope. The reason the cops told them that? Because very likely the people of that neighborhood call the cops every night and complain about them, and those same neighbors have attended city council meeting to complain about these kids. The city council has heard statements like" I can't walk down my own street without these dopeheads harassing me." " I can't let my kids outside to play because these thugs give them a hard time." Or even the race card: "If this was happening in a white neighborhood, the cops wouldn't tolerate it. But because it's a black neighborhood they just drive right on by."

Yes, those things actually happen and I know about it first hand.

So the cops get memos from the chief's office to clean up that corner, and they get calls from neighbors nightly about it.

They've told those kids a hundred times to go somewhere else, but with no effect.

So one night the cops drive by and see one of them smoking dope. They stop and check his ID (notice they didn't even arrest him at that point) and when they find he has a warrant, only then do they decide to arrest him. He physically resists, dragging the cops down the street for 30 or 40 feet with his friends following and screaming at them. They finally get this kid under control, and try to break up the crowd that has now gathered and is causing a threat to their personal welfare and well as a threat of escalating into something they can't control.

Yes, these situations scare the shiat out of cops.

They order people to back off and leave, but this young lady, angry that her friend just got arrested, refuses to leave and stays there yelling at the cops and defying their efforts to restore order. After being told numerous time to leave, the cops arrest her.

Knowing it's a white cop and a black defendant, and the media just loves such a story, she goes to the media and they lap it up and present it in a way that makes it controversial, because controversy sells.

So it become s Fark thread and the cop-haters use it to justify their blind hatred, refusing to believe anything that challenges their opinions and calling those who disagree "copsuckers" and worse because it's hard to actually defend a position based on misinformation and biased bullshiat. They don't care to see the thousands of times cops do their job properly and even heroically at times every day, and instead choose to judge the cops by the unfortunate few that abuse their authority.


Do you have any evidence? Or have you not planted it yet?
 
2017-07-05 09:54:56 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Headso: well it sounds like it started because an asshole cop can't get it through his thick farking head that the citizenry don't want to waste money incarcerating people for smoking cannabis.

Okay, ignoring your obvious bias, I'll respond to that.

Here's what you're apparently thinking: A bunch of young people are standing innocently on a street corner doing nothing more that smoking some weed, and the cops came along and harassed them. This started a chain of actions that culminated in the unnecessary arrest of the young lady in the video.

Here's what I see: A bunch of kids hang out on the same street corner every night, despite the fact that the cops have probably told them every night not to congregate and smoke dope. The reason the cops told them that? Because very likely the people of that neighborhood call the cops every night and complain about them, and those same neighbors have attended city council meeting to complain about these kids. The city council has heard statements like" I can't walk down my own street without these dopeheads harassing me." " I can't let my kids outside to play because these thugs give them a hard time." Or even the race card: "If this was happening in a white neighborhood, the cops wouldn't tolerate it. But because it's a black neighborhood they just drive right on by."

Yes, those things actually happen and I know about it first hand.

So the cops get memos from the chief's office to clean up that corner, and they get calls from neighbors nightly about it.

They've told those kids a hundred times to go somewhere else, but with no effect.

So one night the cops drive by and see one of them smoking dope. They stop and check his ID (notice they didn't even arrest him at that point) and when they find he has a warrant, only then do they decide to arrest him. He physically resists, dragging the cops down the street for 30 or 40 feet with his friends following and screaming at them. They finally get this kid under control, and try ...


You are not doing good cops any favors with your posts.
 
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