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(The Sun (Ireland))   Just drinking two pints of beer a day could give you five types of cancer. Cheers   ( thesun.ie) divider line
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2017-07-04 09:27:34 AM  
A high calorie carcinogenic solvent may not be the best thing to pour down your throat all day and night, but if we keep it up for another 10000 years, there's hope that our descendants will evolve a near immunity to its negative effects.
 
2017-07-04 09:43:18 AM  
What are the benefits if you don't limit to just two pints?
 
2017-07-04 10:06:43 AM  
Solution: Never stop at 2.
 
2017-07-04 10:07:56 AM  
I skipped a day once, so I'm OK, yeah?
 
2017-07-04 10:09:34 AM  
Oxygen is bad for you too.

Bottoms up!
 
2017-07-04 10:13:15 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: A high calorie carcinogenic solvent may not be the best thing to pour down your throat all day and night, but if we keep it up for another 10000 years, there's hope that our descendants will evolve a near immunity to its negative effects.


Good thing that humans have been drinking alcoholic beverages for so long that we've already evolved to deal with its effects.  At least until you're old enough to bear and raise children, after that who cares?
 
2017-07-04 10:13:26 AM  
The first cancer it mentions is Colorectal Cancer. A 21% increased risk of getting this cancer is related to drinking a moderate amount.

Probability of getting colorectal cancer 4.45%

https://seer.cancer.gov/csr/1975_2014/results_merged/topic_lifetime_r​i​sk.pdf

After drinking: 5.34%

Mmm... I'll take my chances.
 
2017-07-04 10:13:30 AM  
Water can corrode as well, but that's not stopping me from being hydrated...
/everything has some degree of risk...
 
2017-07-04 10:13:57 AM  
Yes, but 3 or more cures 8 types of cancer.
 
2017-07-04 10:14:26 AM  
And playing the lottery once a week increases my chances of winning.
 
2017-07-04 10:17:34 AM  
I'll choose to ignore this.
 
2017-07-04 10:20:40 AM  
"If you resolve to give up smoking, drinking and loving, you don't actually live longer; it just seems longer."
- Clement Freud
 
2017-07-04 10:29:27 AM  
Prof Peck said: "One of the main challenges in addressing high drinking levels is how deeply embedded alcohol consumption is within the European society, both socially and culturally.

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2017-07-04 10:36:38 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: A high calorie carcinogenic solvent may not be the best thing to pour down your throat all day and night, but if we keep it up for another 10000 years, there's hope that our descendants will evolve a near immunity to its negative effects.


Since when was ethanol a carcinogen? I just checked the MERK Index and the MSDS, and funny enough both list it as "no carcinogenicity".
 
2017-07-04 10:39:57 AM  
Smoke weed!
 
2017-07-04 10:43:11 AM  
Five types?  "gotta catch 'em all!"

Therefore:
- rum
- vodka
- tequilla
- beer needs its own subsection
- wine needs its own subsection
- where was I?  Oh yeah..
- weed
 
2017-07-04 10:47:49 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Smoke weed!


Makes the fireworks more fun but I'm drinking first
 
2017-07-04 10:54:30 AM  

Tyrosine: Garza and the Supermutants: A high calorie carcinogenic solvent may not be the best thing to pour down your throat all day and night, but if we keep it up for another 10000 years, there's hope that our descendants will evolve a near immunity to its negative effects.

Since when was ethanol a carcinogen? I just checked the MERK Index and the MSDS, and funny enough both list it as "no carcinogenicity".


My goodness, nicotine is also not a carcinogen. Are we going to do correlation and causation semantics here?
 
2017-07-04 10:55:21 AM  

dill doze: Five types?  "gotta catch 'em all!"

Therefore:
- rum
- vodka
- tequilla
- beer needs its own subsection
- wine needs its own subsection
- where was I?  Oh yeah..
- weed


ffs I forgot boubon.  please forgive me Fark!
 
2017-07-04 10:56:55 AM  

dill doze: dill doze: Five types?  "gotta catch 'em all!"

Therefore:
- rum
- vodka
- tequilla
- beer needs its own subsection
- wine needs its own subsection
- where was I?  Oh yeah..
- weed

ffs I forgot boubon.  please forgive me Fark!


Bourbon even.  I can spell.  And I'm about as drunk as you think I am.
 
2017-07-04 11:00:11 AM  
2 pints = 5 cancers
Double the intake must halve the risk:   4 pints = 2.5 cancers
Therefore 2 pints reduces the risk by 2.5 cancers.
Therefore, we must drink at least 6 pints a day to reach 0 cancers


Maths !!
 
2017-07-04 11:03:47 AM  
The article fails to link or even properly cite the study these numbers come from, so it's difficult to figure out their methodology, but often they are deeply flawed. In order to properly weigh the value of the results I'd need to know the following:

1. How many participants were involved?
2. How diverse (age, sex, region of origin) was the study group?
3. How were the participants selected? Were they selected based on a prior reported condition?
4. What were the controls?
5. Were other co-indicators tracked? Are drinkers more likely to smoke, use drugs, eat certain foods, exercise, ect.
6. Was the data collected by self reporting (known for bias) or by observation (almost impossible in such a study)?
7. What types of alcohol did the study involve? Different alcoholic drinks have a wide variety of different secondary compounds like tannins, alpha acids, butanol, etc.
8. Was alcohol consumption normalized based of weight?
9. Was the daily caloric intake of the participants tracked?

Here's the problem with these studies: They look at a bunch of people and track one variable (consumption of alcoholic drinks) only. Unfortunately there are hundreds if not thousands of variables at play here. While I have no doubt they found an elevated risk of cancer, that risk could come from many other factors.
 
2017-07-04 11:05:58 AM  
The only way to avoid having cancer is to die before you get it.
 
2017-07-04 11:12:54 AM  
It's still worth it.
 
2017-07-04 11:17:43 AM  
No one gets out alive.  Moderation is the key to anything, except holidays.  Hope you have a Happy 4th!
 
2017-07-04 11:35:56 AM  
How many types of cancer do we get from all the preservatives, artificial sweeteners, high fructose corn syrup, additional growth hormones in beef and pesticide resistant plants in our diet?  That number will make you want a drink.
 
2017-07-04 11:39:30 AM  
So, not drinking gives you a longer beerless life?  Lose/lose.
 
2017-07-04 11:40:18 AM  
Good thing I don't drink pints.
 
2017-07-04 11:57:17 AM  
There's also an eventual 100% chance of death from being born.

EVERYBODY PANIC
 
2017-07-04 11:59:11 AM  

Stoker: Good thing I don't drink pints.


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2017-07-04 12:00:21 PM  
Just clicking a Sun link can give you six.
 
2017-07-04 12:38:34 PM  
1) That's why I switched to bourbon years ago.

2) I'm banking on it (retirement plan, Alzheimer's remedy)
 
2017-07-04 12:40:46 PM  
Oh no.  We might run out of people!
 
2017-07-04 01:01:24 PM  
Good thing I don't just drink two pints.
 
2017-07-04 01:08:10 PM  

Tyrosine: Garza and the Supermutants: A high calorie carcinogenic solvent may not be the best thing to pour down your throat all day and night, but if we keep it up for another 10000 years, there's hope that our descendants will evolve a near immunity to its negative effects.

Since when was ethanol a carcinogen? I just checked the MERK Index and the MSDS, and funny enough both list it as "no carcinogenicity".


It's most definitely a teratogen, though.

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2017-07-04 01:57:05 PM  
All I need is a pint a day
 
2017-07-04 02:01:08 PM  
That's why I always drink 6, minimum. It's unhealthy to have less.
 
2017-07-04 03:12:19 PM  
Fark it, beer will have to compete with tobacco to give me cancer first. Shoot, there are dozens of things that can give you cancer of one kind or another.

/Vices
 
2017-07-04 08:55:39 PM  
Im farked
 
2017-07-04 11:12:55 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Oxygen is bad for you too.

Bottoms up!


Sounds kinky, but I'll play along...  OK, holding my breath and my ass is in the air... now what?
 
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