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(Omaha World Herald)   Wind blows car door shut on 1-year-old. Mom calls cops for help, police arrive, free child, ticket mom with misdemeanor, for The Infallible Gods of Municipal Revenue must be appeased   ( omaha.com) divider line
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2017-06-19 12:52:15 PM  
Firefighters measured the temperature inside the vehicle at 97 degrees a few minutes after the window was broken and the child was removed. The outside temperature was 93 degrees, according to a reading from a police cruiser.

Guess how hot it is going to be in the MickieDees that kid is going to be making a career of later on in life ???
 
2017-06-19 12:54:08 PM  
What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.
 
2017-06-19 01:29:54 PM  

lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.


I was going to go with 'Don't call the police for 'help' unless it really is a last resort...', but I suppose yours works too.

On a somewhat similar tangent, where were the car keys?  I know that the first thing that I do once the truck is in park is drop the keys into my pocket (well, after taking off the seatbelt but before getting out of the seat...).

"...Before calling 911, the toddler's mother, aunt and two other relatives tried to open the doors with a screwdriver and coat hanger.... "

They couldn't reverse the grip on the screwdriver & use the handle to pound on/break the window?  Onstar? There wasn't a rock nearby? A nearby motorist with a tire iron in the trunk? Eric Stonestreet with a high pitch scream & a trash can? Etc, etc, etc

 
2017-06-19 01:48:52 PM  

lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.


and if you do, break the window yourself instead of calling the cops.
 
2017-06-19 01:58:53 PM  
"When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good
 
2017-06-19 02:06:01 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good


40 MPH winds can do that.
 
2017-06-19 02:07:15 PM  
"Don't be afraid to call 911 for help," she [OPD Lt. Darcy] said. "This could be a life or death situation."

When you ticket them for it, you're not helping.
 
2017-06-19 02:12:18 PM  

stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.


Yeah, I can see that part up to a point, but how did both doors get blown at the same time without her matronly anatomy somehow impeding the process? I think there's more to the story is all I'm saying

/could be a lazy report, too
//Where's Paul Harvey when you need 'im?
 
2017-06-19 02:37:33 PM  
Well, at least they didn't shoot everybody in sight.  This time.
 
2017-06-19 02:52:26 PM  
"We make decisions in the moment with all the information we have available,'' she said. "This can be a super dangerous situation. People die in these circumstances."

That's your generic excuse for an unjustified shooting nitwits, not giving a f**king ticket.
 
2017-06-19 03:15:23 PM  
Never call the police.
 
2017-06-19 03:16:49 PM  
I really don't get why you'd call the police unless you think they'll jimmy open the door. You're better off calling a tow truck driver to do that trick, otherwise break a window yourself. If you can't manage to break a window on your own then just let your offspring die to help bolster the gene pool.
 
2017-06-19 03:17:02 PM  

Jake Havechek: Well, at least they didn't shoot everybody in sight.  This time.


Melanin levels were below the threshold for lethal violence.
 
2017-06-19 03:18:19 PM  
This is why it's a very good idea to keep a spare key in your wallet, purse, etc. Saved my ass many a time.
 
2017-06-19 03:18:25 PM  

stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.


Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.
 
2017-06-19 03:18:34 PM  
Everyone learned a valuable lesson, don't expect cops to help.

Reminded me of how the tapes of sobriety tests mysteriously go missing when people claim they passed and the cops waited 2 hours to see if their BAC would go up enough to be charged with DUI. Really strange how the cops have several hard drives go bad every single week around here. I assume Seagate just shipped all the ones that were at the factory that was flooded years back to our police department, as it is not possible a rural large town with a shrinking tax base would engage in shenanigans related to certain crimes that can generate $5,000 in revenue or more per case. Nope, can't be that. Seagate probably owes taxpayers here a refund.
 
2017-06-19 03:18:39 PM  
you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems.
 
2017-06-19 03:18:51 PM  

twistedsteel5252: Never call the police.


People post this and no one bats an eye. I post "Abolish the police" and everyone loses their minds.
 
2017-06-19 03:19:10 PM  

mrshowrules: lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.

and if you do, break the window yourself instead of calling the cops.


That's the part I don't get.  I'm a father of 2, and if this happened, you better believe I would break the damn window in less than 5 minutes.  It's just a farking window, and a child locked in a hot car is not a time for frugality.
 
2017-06-19 03:19:13 PM  

stan unusual: "Don't be afraid to call 911 for help," she [OPD Lt. Darcy] said. "This could be a life or death situation."

When you ticket them for it, you're not helping.


Came for this.

"don't be afraid to call for a ticket."

And then the "ticket because they think the child was in there longer."  It's 93° outside, and only 97° right after it was broken?  Uhhh, I guess cop math.  Hopefully the DA throws this out
 
2017-06-19 03:20:07 PM  
A 'gust of wind' blew the door shut.  Right.

Sometimes it's okay to admit you farked up by your own free will.
 
2017-06-19 03:20:14 PM  

Russ1642: I really don't get why you'd call the police unless you think they'll jimmy open the door. You're better off calling a tow truck driver to do that trick, otherwise break a window yourself. If you can't manage to break a window on your own then just let your offspring die to help bolster the gene pool.


I doubt the kid would survive through to the end of the AAA call, let alone the smoke break the driver stops to take.
 
2017-06-19 03:20:22 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.


Its the "and locked them" part I am having trouble with.  She JUST opened the doors.  Cars don't auto lock the doors as soon as they are closed, and why the heck would you lock the car before you got your child out?  I agree with some above: something doesn't add up.
 
2017-06-19 03:20:41 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.


Seriously.  Is it that hard to believe two doors on the same side of the car got blown shut with one gust of wind?
 
2017-06-19 03:22:06 PM  
"Good" cops never dime out bad cops, ergo there are no good cops.  Internal Investigations are a farking joke.

So fark the police, yeah fark 'em.
 
2017-06-19 03:22:16 PM  
So, we know for sure that the wind blew the car door shut; or that's what the family is saying to justify their belief that they shouldn't have been ticketed?
 
2017-06-19 03:22:28 PM  

mrshowrules: lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.

and if you do, break the window yourself instead of calling the cops.


Yeah, but that sometimes aint easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91_K-s4pMM
 
2017-06-19 03:22:41 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.

Its the "and locked them" part I am having trouble with.  She JUST opened the doors.  Cars don't auto lock the doors as soon as they are closed, and why the heck would you lock the car before you got your child out?  I agree with some above: something doesn't add up.


So your theory is that she locked the kid in the car on purpose?
 
2017-06-19 03:23:01 PM  
All Hail Administrative Law.

/Never argue; with the force
 
2017-06-19 03:23:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah, I can see that part up to a point, but how did both doors get blown at the same time without her matronly anatomy somehow impeding the process? I think there's more to the story is all I'm saying

/could be a lazy report, too
//Where's Paul Harvey when you need 'im?


How did the door she just opened end up locked when it slammed shut?  I've seen wind blow a door shut on many occasions, but it never engaged the lock.

She would have had to open the rear door, go to the driver door, hit the lock button (with keys still inside the car) then have the door slam shut while trying to go back to the rear to get the kid out.
 
2017-06-19 03:23:34 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: twistedsteel5252: Never call the police.

People post this and no one bats an eye. I post "Abolish the police" and everyone loses their minds.


Society survived and managed to constantly improve in terms of dropping levels of violence for millenia before we had police.

People forget the only reason they exist is because sweat shop workers started getting uppity and wanting rights. Suddenly, we needed to have government forces on the streets to maintain public order. I'm sure there's no connection.
 
2017-06-19 03:23:37 PM  

Jake Havechek: "Good" cops never dime out bad cops, ergo there are no good cops.  Internal Investigations are a farking joke.

So fark the police, yeah fark 'em.


I've arrested multipe police officers.  Even threatened to arrest an on-duty supervisor from a neighboring jurisdiction when he showed up to try to stop me from arresting one of his officers on a DUI stop.

But no, we never dime out bad cops and none of us are "good."
 
2017-06-19 03:23:46 PM  
Don't ever call the cops.  Unless it is something that needs killin'.
 
2017-06-19 03:23:58 PM  
That's why you call AAA instead of 911.  Even if you don't have AAA, call a tow company and ask for lockout service.

The first (and last) time I got locked out of my car, I had a 9-month old kitten in the car.  I told the AAA dispatcher, and they had a truck there in under 10 minutes.  The guy pulled up, and asked me what year the car was, put a couple bends in his slim jim, and hopped out from behind the wheel.  Before the truck had stopped rocking from losing his weight, he had the passenger door open.

Even if you don't have roadside assistance, a tow company will still be cheaper than the combination of a fine and a replacement window.
 
2017-06-19 03:24:46 PM  
just remind your kid that their safety wasn't worth a broken window.  Also call a farking locksmith next time.
 
2017-06-19 03:24:57 PM  
The important part here is this:
Tierney said the police department thinks the child was actually in the car longer than 15 minutes, partly based on the temperature inside the car.

Firefighters measured the temperature inside the vehicle at 97 degrees a few minutes after the window was broken and the child was removed. The outside temperature was 93 degrees, according to a reading from a police cruiser.


4 degrees in 15 minutes seems to be a "lot" for them/ How about 40 degrees in an hour? That would be 10 degrees in 15 minutes:

"In terms of heat-rise over time, it makes very little difference whether a car's windows are closed or partially open. In both cases, a car's interior temperature can rise approximately 40 degrees within one hour, even when the exterior temperature is only 72°F."
American Academy of Pediatrics study (2005)

Or 34 degrees in half an hour:
"Children have died in cars with the temperature as low as 63 degrees. Basically the car becomes a greenhouse. At 70 degrees on a sunny day, after a half hour, the temperature inside a car is 104 degrees. After an hour, it can reach 113 degrees."
- Jan Null, adjunct professor at San Francisco State University (source data here)
http://heatkills.org/how-hot/

Let's not even get into the fact that an estimate of 15 minutes by distressed people can really mean anywhere from 5 minutes to 45 minutes. They aren't sitting there watching the clock or anything.
 
2017-06-19 03:25:15 PM  

RyansPrivates: mrshowrules: lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.

and if you do, break the window yourself instead of calling the cops.

That's the part I don't get.  I'm a father of 2, and if this happened, you better believe I would break the damn window in less than 5 minutes.  It's just a farking window, and a child locked in a hot car is not a time for frugality.


Break the window?  Pappa bear is ripping that door from its hinges.  Once that failed (who knew hinges were made from stout stuff) the window is no more.
 
2017-06-19 03:25:21 PM  

HempHead: Wicked Chinchilla: backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.

Its the "and locked them" part I am having trouble with.  She JUST opened the doors.  Cars don't auto lock the doors as soon as they are closed, and why the heck would you lock the car before you got your child out?  I agree with some above: something doesn't add up.

So your theory is that she locked the kid in the car on purpose?


I think the theory he's advancing is that the adults were being negligent and likely came up with the "wind gust" theory to try to get out of being held responsible for putting their child in a potentially life threatening situation.
 
2017-06-19 03:25:29 PM  

lostcat: What did we learn? Don't lock your doors until your kids are out of the car.


Mine will lock if my key fob gets too far away (about 20 feet). A two year old has to be removed from a car seat which requires a parent to walk around a vehicle. There are safety features, a wind gust notwithstanding, that can become really annoying actually. Her situation is entirely possible and my doors will shut if I sneeze on them apparently.

But key fobs, is she had one on a newer car, shouldn't allow doors to lock if still inside but not engaged with the ignition.

Bad situation all around and ought to be dismissed.
 
2017-06-19 03:25:49 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Jake Havechek: "Good" cops never dime out bad cops, ergo there are no good cops.  Internal Investigations are a farking joke.

So fark the police, yeah fark 'em.

I've arrested multipe police officers.  Even threatened to arrest an on-duty supervisor from a neighboring jurisdiction when he showed up to try to stop me from arresting one of his officers on a DUI stop.

But no, we never dime out bad cops and none of us are "good."


Well, that just explains 40 years of brutality away.  Whoopty farkin' Doo.
 
2017-06-19 03:26:13 PM  

bughunter: That's why you call AAA instead of 911.  Even if you don't have AAA, call a tow company


they tried
 
2017-06-19 03:26:33 PM  
Aside from an auto-collision to file a report for insurance reasons, I can't think of a reason to call the police.
 
2017-06-19 03:26:35 PM  

HempHead: Wicked Chinchilla: backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.

Its the "and locked them" part I am having trouble with.  She JUST opened the doors.  Cars don't auto lock the doors as soon as they are closed, and why the heck would you lock the car before you got your child out?  I agree with some above: something doesn't add up.

So your theory is that she locked the kid in the car on purpose?


No, otherwise she wouldn't have called the police.  I just think she was stupid, panicked, and is trying to get out of a ticket by blaming it on "the wind."  I absolutely believe wind could have blown the doors shut, but the actual problem wasn't the doors being blown shut, it was the fact they locked their keys in the car.
 
2017-06-19 03:26:45 PM  

Jake Havechek: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Jake Havechek: "Good" cops never dime out bad cops, ergo there are no good cops.  Internal Investigations are a farking joke.

So fark the police, yeah fark 'em.

I've arrested multipe police officers.  Even threatened to arrest an on-duty supervisor from a neighboring jurisdiction when he showed up to try to stop me from arresting one of his officers on a DUI stop.

But no, we never dime out bad cops and none of us are "good."

Well, that just explains 40 years of brutality away.  Whoopty farkin' Doo.


So, you're unreasonable and an idiot?  Got it.
 
2017-06-19 03:27:01 PM  
Sometimes I leave my kid in the car for less than a minute while I run to the shopping cart corral to return the cart and every time I worry about some psycho siccing the cops on me or breaking my window.
 
2017-06-19 03:27:03 PM  
TFA:The case will be referred to the Omaha City Prosecutor's Office, which will review it and decide whether charges will be filed.

If the prosecutor follows up with charges on the mother, they're a bunch of dicks.
 
2017-06-19 03:27:19 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: backhand.slap.of.reason: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah.  All it takes is a gust from the front and they'll both shut.  I'm from North Eastern Arizona and have seen it happen a few times.

Its the "and locked them" part I am having trouble with.  She JUST opened the doors.  Cars don't auto lock the doors as soon as they are closed, and why the heck would you lock the car before you got your child out?  I agree with some above: something doesn't add up.


I had a Pontiac Bonneville that would lock all the doors as soon as you got out and closed the driver side door. I ended up with the keys locked in it several times because of that. I called them Nazi locks.

I hated that car.
 
2017-06-19 03:27:40 PM  

Driedsponge: MaudlinMutantMollusk: stan unusual: MaudlinMutantMollusk: "When she exited from the car and opened the rear door, the wind pushed the doors closed and locked them," an officer wrote of the account from the girl's mother in the report.

Something, she's don't smell so good

40 MPH winds can do that.

Yeah, I can see that part up to a point, but how did both doors get blown at the same time without her matronly anatomy somehow impeding the process? I think there's more to the story is all I'm saying

/could be a lazy report, too
//Where's Paul Harvey when you need 'im?

How did the door she just opened end up locked when it slammed shut?  I've seen wind blow a door shut on many occasions, but it never engaged the lock.

She would have had to open the rear door, go to the driver door, hit the lock button (with keys still inside the car) then have the door slam shut while trying to go back to the rear to get the kid out.


It's quite possible that she hit the lock button by habit, and dropped the keys on the seat while she went around to get the kid for whatever reason. The 'doors locking themselves' thing could just be the fault of shiatty journalism. It's happened once or twice in the last millisecond, so I'm fine with the shiatty journalism part for that.
 
2017-06-19 03:27:49 PM  
It's that damned butterfly again.
img.fark.net
 
2017-06-19 03:28:05 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: So, we know for sure that the wind blew the car door shut; or that's what the family is saying to justify their belief that they shouldn't have been ticketed?


It's what the cop wrote up in giving the ticket.
 
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