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2017-06-19 10:55:49 AM  
See Russia? This is what happens when you interfere in our elections and put an unstable maniac in charge.
 
2017-06-19 11:00:02 AM  
will be tracked as potential targets

Looks like we're... on their radar.
 
2017-06-19 11:01:31 AM  
If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.
 
2017-06-19 11:10:55 AM  
Umm. They don't have to put fighters up to threaten our planes.
 
2017-06-19 11:15:58 AM  
I'm sure the Russians would just hate to sell Syria more jets to replace the ones shot down by the US.
 
2017-06-19 11:22:00 AM  
Thisbusinesswillgetoutofcontrol.jpg
 
2017-06-19 11:25:03 AM  
Don't worry guys: I am sure this is nothing that ending sanctions against Russia won't solve so let's get right on that.
 
2017-06-19 11:25:29 AM  
It's the first Syrian jet the US shot down, so not surprising that Russia was concerned.  Though I'm sure they've both (Syria and Russia) been tracking US aircraft for a long time.
 
2017-06-19 11:25:31 AM  

PunGent: Thisbusinesswillgetoutofcontrol.jpg


Good, lets just get this over with.  Summontheasteroids.jpg
 
2017-06-19 11:25:46 AM  

beezeltown: I'm sure the Russians would just hate to sell Syria more jets to replace the ones shot down by the US.


Considering it was a su-22, aka flying fossil, the folks at mig are probably ecstatic.
  Yuri, good news! Remember when Assad told us " I don't need to upgrade my air force, I still have lots of planes that still fly"?
   Well, the americans are working on that for us.
 
2017-06-19 11:25:55 AM  

Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.


Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?

This shut is even more retarded than when Fark thought that Shrub was both a criminal genius and only semi-sapient.
 
2017-06-19 11:28:24 AM  
They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

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2017-06-19 11:28:51 AM  
Be careful, they may send some Russian smart bombs:
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2017-06-19 11:30:47 AM  
Standard cold war proxy death.  Find some suckas to kill while warning the other side they better check themselves before they wreck themselves.
 
2017-06-19 11:33:51 AM  

Carousel Beast: Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?


Nobody rational thinks the US Is going to war against Russia.

On the other hand, Trump's people have publicly stated they want to undermine the EU and NATO.

They may not be coordinating with Putin, but they're working towards the same goal.
 
2017-06-19 11:34:44 AM  

Carousel Beast: Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.

Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?

This shut is even more retarded than when Fark thought that Shrub was both a criminal genius and only semi-sapient.


Both!  He wants to rule like putin but he is learning that would have never been anything but his biatch.
 
2017-06-19 11:37:54 AM  

Revek: Carousel Beast: Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.

Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?

This shut is even more retarded than when Fark thought that Shrub was both a criminal genius and only semi-sapient.

Both!  He wants to rule like putin but he is learning that would have never been anything but his biatch.


He wants to rule like a Saudi king, gold Cadillacs and all.
 
2017-06-19 11:38:58 AM  

Carousel Beast: Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.

Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?

This shut is even more retarded than when Fark thought that Shrub was both a criminal genius and only semi-sapient.


And you can't think of any rea$on$ why the U$ and Ru$$ia would benefit from building military ten$ion$ with incident$ like thi$?

No reason the president couldn't collude with Russia by starting a war. It's not like wars are actually bad things for the super rich.
 
2017-06-19 11:38:59 AM  

jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]


I see that S-400 and raise you a super weasel.
i2.wp.com
 
2017-06-19 11:39:10 AM  
img.fark.net
Both sides are becoming identical. One in fact is being created, an international community. A perfect blueprint for world order. When the sides facing each other realize they are looking into a mirror, they will see that this, is the pattern for the future.
 
2017-06-19 11:40:00 AM  
Tha

jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]


That's okay, we have more than 50 years of experience dealing with their kind:

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/Those OGs were badasses
 
2017-06-19 11:40:58 AM  
Seems like a pilot would need to change course just a little bit to avoid a11,500 MPH missile.
 
2017-06-19 11:41:10 AM  

timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.

"Shall we play a game?"

[img.fark.net image 340x239]


Bad. But Russia is a paper tiger. It would be fun crumbling the Kremlin.
 
2017-06-19 11:41:56 AM  
Chill President Art of Deal has this.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
And can't you feel the fears I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave,
Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
 
2017-06-19 11:42:29 AM  

timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.

"Shall we play a game?"

[img.fark.net image 340x239]


That happened on occasion even at the height of the Cold War.  E.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley#1950
 
2017-06-19 11:43:31 AM  

Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.


Why would that necessarily lead to nuclear war?  We've fought Russian pilots before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War#Soviet_a​i​r_intervention

And the Russians manned anti-aircraft missile sites in North Vietnam, shooting down US pilots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Soviet_Union

I don't seem to recall a nuclear war happening back then.
 
2017-06-19 11:45:23 AM  

timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.


No it won't.  It's happened a bunch of times in the past, when both sides were armed with nuclear weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-to-air_combat_losses_between_the_So​v​iet_Union_and_the_United_States

Are you ignorant of history, or a fear-monger, or both?
 
2017-06-19 11:46:43 AM  

dittybopper: I don't seem to recall a nuclear war happening back then.


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damn shame
 
2017-06-19 11:47:21 AM  

Deep Contact: Seems like a pilot would need to change course just a little bit to avoid a11,500 MPH missile.


That depends on where it's going at 11,500 MPH (and how many of their missiles lock-on to Malaysian Airlines 777s by mistake)...

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/ I keed, of course; I realize that Russian weaponry isn't that crude
 
2017-06-19 11:47:22 AM  

jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]


Well, except for 59 cruise missiles.
 
2017-06-19 11:48:27 AM  
So will:
Trump be a pussy and apologize in public.
Trump be stupid and Russia.
 
2017-06-19 11:48:45 AM  
Carousel Beast:
Ok, which is it? Is trump Putin's lapdog, or is he going to start a war with Russia?

Perfectly possible for Trump to knock down a few geriatric Syrian fighters to keep the rubes distracted, while simultaneously undermining the European coalition as fast as he can.  Any strategic thinker in Moscow would be perfectly happy with that tradeoff.
 
2017-06-19 11:49:18 AM  

dittybopper: Jake Havechek: If it wasn't a catalyst that could lead to a nuclear war, I'd say sure, let's convert some borscht flyboys to vapor and metal bits.

Why would that necessarily lead to nuclear war?  We've fought Russian pilots before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War#Soviet_ai​r_intervention

And the Russians manned anti-aircraft missile sites in North Vietnam, shooting down US pilots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Soviet_Union

I don't seem to recall a nuclear war happening back then.


It was only a limited exchange. Everybody who remembers the nuclear war, died in the nuclear war.

Think about it: where are the silos? North Dakota. Ever been there? Of course not. Know anybody from there? Nope. Demographically, who lives in North Dakota? A bunch of young men working in "oil fields." Yeah, sure.

Chernobyl was an unexploded ICBM. Study it out.
 
2017-06-19 11:51:51 AM  

oxnard_montalvo: I see that S-400 and raise you a super weasel.


GasDude: That's okay, we have more than 50 years of experience dealing with their kind:


Good thinking. Always assume you are invulnerable and your enemy is weak and stupid. That makes you sound real smart.

Meanwhile, I'd copy and paste the list, but it's too long.
List of combat losses of United States military aircraft since the Vietnam War
 
2017-06-19 11:51:53 AM  

BigNumber12: jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]

Well, except for 59 cruise missiles.


IIRC they chose not to engage.
 
2017-06-19 11:53:08 AM  
"will be tracked as potential targets"  - Yawn

So farking what??  We track you as potential targets constantly.  Call me when you are threatening to shoot down the "potential targets."
 
2017-06-19 11:53:23 AM  

puffy999: timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.

"Shall we play a game?"

[img.fark.net image 340x239]

Bad. But Russia is a paper tiger. It would be fun crumbling the Kremlin.


Again?  Remember what happened last time?  The joint was looted by the Politburo, who all joined up with the Russian mob.  It could get really ugly - the 'stans all start bombing Moscow for the right to leave, along with the Chechens, Georgians and Crimeans.
 
2017-06-19 11:54:52 AM  

Deep Contact: Seems like a pilot would need to change course just a little bit to avoid a11,500 MPH missile.


Yep, a mach 14 missile cant turn much, the g forces would shred it.
  That's 140nm a minute. So, unless they are close, our radar will be able to give a heads up to any fighter jock.
 
2017-06-19 11:56:07 AM  

dittybopper: I don't seem to recall a nuclear war happening back then.


Nixon sure thought about it.
 
2017-06-19 11:56:18 AM  

steklo: [img.fark.net image 736x558]
Both sides are becoming identical. One in fact is being created, an international community. A perfect blueprint for world order. When the sides facing each other realize they are looking into a mirror, they will see that this, is the pattern for the future.


img.fark.net

Logic is on our side: this isn't a case of a world struggle between two divergent ideologies, of different economic systems. Every day your country becomes more socialistic, my country becomes more capitalistic. Pretty soon we will meet in the middle and join hands. No, my dear doctor; you're going to defect because you want to live.
 
2017-06-19 11:56:41 AM  

thehobbes: BigNumber12: jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]

Well, except for 59 cruise missiles.

IIRC they chose not to engage.


When your toddler opponent wants to spend $100M to break up concrete at an empty airport, there's no sense in stopping him.
 
2017-06-19 11:57:01 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: I don't seem to recall a nuclear war happening back then.

Nixon sure thought about it.


All presidents (or at least their subordinates) think about it.  It's part of their job description.
 
2017-06-19 11:58:18 AM  

beezeltown: I'm sure the Russians would just hate to sell Syria more jets to replace the ones shot down by the US.


Russia just threatened to threaten the US. Seems like they need to remind the American public in the wake of the recent air to air kill that they are not on our side.
 
2017-06-19 11:58:46 AM  

dv-ous: Chernobyl was an unexploded ICBM. Study it out.


There's waaay too little plutonium in an ICBM to create that big of a mess.  The core of an RBMK reactor is gigantic:

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/ they were designed as a sort of a dual-use power-reactor and plutonium-factory for nuclear weapons, but consequently their cores were huge and contained an enormous amount of fuel
 
2017-06-19 11:59:31 AM  

Muzzleloader: Deep Contact: Seems like a pilot would need to change course just a little bit to avoid a11,500 MPH missile.

Yep, a mach 14 missile cant turn much, the g forces would shred it.
  That's 140nm a minute. So, unless they are close, our radar will be able to give a heads up to any fighter jock.


Ground to air missiles are lethal.  That's why they're usually the USAF's first target in any combat area.
 
2017-06-19 12:00:02 PM  

thehobbes: BigNumber12: jaytkay: They're not tracking US planes to send up jets. They can kill anything in Syrian air space with an S-400.

[img.fark.net image 511x633]

Well, except for 59 cruise missiles.

IIRC they chose not to engage.


That's the joke. Either they couldn't hit the missiles, or they willingly let their buddy's military get hit, without knowing what the strike was specifically doing.
 
2017-06-19 12:00:06 PM  
No need to worry there is no way Russia can shoot down our F-35. Mostly because we can get them to fly.
 
2017-06-19 12:00:11 PM  

jshine: timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.

"Shall we play a game?"

[img.fark.net image 340x239]

That happened on occasion even at the height of the Cold War.  E.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley#1950


Hell, the Russians even shot down an airliner full of civilians and nobody did much about it except complain.
 
2017-06-19 12:00:37 PM  
Syria decided to attack coalition forces in the deconfliction zone, what part of that account does Putin not understand?
No, this threat is meant for domestic consumption. He must know that his fighters and s400 batteries are too vulnerable to make light of attacking western forces. He's banking on the fact that we aren't in the habit of testing another forces airspace once it's been established on paper.
It's an bold move and all I can say is I hope his fighters ejection seats work as good in combat as they do in air shows.
 
2017-06-19 12:01:17 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: jshine: timnaen: The day an American kills a Russian or a Russian kills an American will be a bad day for all of us.

"Shall we play a game?"

[img.fark.net image 340x239]

That happened on occasion even at the height of the Cold War.  E.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley#1950

Hell, the Russians even shot down an airliner full of civilians and nobody did much about it except complain.


Oh yea, the Korean Air 747 thing -- I forgot about that.
 
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