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(Marketwatch)   Who is to blame for selfie sticks? Teens? Nope. Millennials? Try again. Ancient Greeks? Bingo   ( marketwatch.com) divider line
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2017-06-19 09:53:34 AM  
Did they have them in SPARTAAAAA!!?
 
2017-06-19 11:30:33 AM  
Oblig.:

img.fark.net
 
2017-06-19 01:03:22 PM  
Well, they did give us democracy and look how well *that's* going for us.
 
2017-06-19 02:13:17 PM  
I'd need to read more, but from TFA, it seems like this "researcher" is basing his hypothesis on limited data. He has a subject who exhibits certain tendencies and then decides correlation does equal causation, that the reason she's a cutter is the same reason she obsesses over her selfie collection, therefore anyone else who obsesses over their selfies is also likely to hurt themselves.
While I have what is probably greater than warranted level of disdain for people who take selfies, if his findings were true, you'd think there'd be a constant stream of Instagram users opening their veins or downing bottles of sleeping pills.
 
2017-06-19 02:26:30 PM  
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Self-portraits have become one of those "You never complained before..." things.
 
2017-06-19 03:01:06 PM  
Damn Narcissis to Hades!
 
2017-06-19 04:00:48 PM  
Uhh, no.

""I think the fact we reacted like this really shows that we have become more self-focused," Storr said."

I really dislike people who think that the human psyche has somehow magically diverged in the past generation or two from what it's always been: self-absorbed.

Yes, the Greeks told the story of Narcissus, the man so in love with his reflection that he drowned.

But every civilization show that when you give someone the capability, they are obsessed with themselves. Kings and Pharaohs built temples, pyramids, and mausoleums to themselves, the first Chinese emperor made thousands of individual clay soldiers dedicated to guarding him in his tomb, money bears the likeness of kings and queens while they reign. It's what people do. They love themselves. Now we just have more ways to be vain than we have ever had before, and more evidence that it's not just you, but everyone is just as vain.
 
2017-06-19 04:48:53 PM  
"There's this increasing pressure on us to be perfect in all kinds of different domains, whether we have the perfect body or the perfect job or be the perfect father or perfect mother," Storr said.
"Middle age is when a lot of us hit our limitations. We spend our youth dreaming and being ambitious and trying to be this amazing person. We hit middle age and we realize we're not going to end up being Larry Page or whoever."


Don't know who Larry Page is, but I gave up on being perfect sometime in my 20s. I never understood why people depend so much on the opinions of others on what their life is "supposed" to be. Seriously. Do you think snapchatting you grand mocha latte so some stranger in Addis Ababa can look at it matters? Or skydiving some weekend and posting the photos makes your life more awesome? I had beer and wings with my friends a few weeks ago, but I don't broadcast it.
 
2017-06-19 05:15:19 PM  
Behold my works ye mighty and despair
 
2017-06-19 05:16:10 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-06-19 05:16:53 PM  

timujin: I'd need to read more, but from TFA, it seems like this "researcher" is basing his hypothesis on limited data. He has a subject who exhibits certain tendencies and then decides correlation does equal causation, that the reason she's a cutter is the same reason she obsesses over her selfie collection, therefore anyone else who obsesses over their selfies is also likely to hurt themselves.
While I have what is probably greater than warranted level of disdain for people who take selfies, if his findings were true, you'd think there'd be a constant stream of Instagram users opening their veins or downing bottles of sleeping pills.


When you're a child, physically or mentally, correlation always implies causation.
Previously this nonsense was weeded out before it could reach the masses.  The internet has disolved that filter.
  To be fair, most "research" or "studies" done today are no better, no matter who does them.  The meaning of both words are long since vanished.
 
2017-06-19 05:19:32 PM  
That connection is so weak even James Burke couldn't make an episode about it. It's so thin that Twiggy couldn't fit into it.
 
2017-06-19 05:19:33 PM  
Well it isthe Wand of Narcissm, so i'm going to blame the Greeks.
 
2017-06-19 05:22:58 PM  
Ancient Greece is the only place where people have ever obsessed over how they look. Sounds legit.
 
2017-06-19 05:23:28 PM  
I remember working on helping translate some text from about 500BC or so.

I ran into a text where a man was admonishing younger people who purposely 'distressed' their clothing as a statement about themselves.

/it's not a new fad to pretend to play being disadvantaged/homeless and call it 'cool'
 
2017-06-19 05:25:02 PM  
The modern "self sticks" came out of Japan; they were invented by Japanese camera companies and became popular over there before they became popular in the west. So tell me more about how much of Japan's cultural heritage comes from ancient Greece...
 
2017-06-19 05:27:09 PM  

gopher321: "There's this increasing pressure on us to be perfect in all kinds of different domains, whether we have the perfect body or the perfect job or be the perfect father or perfect mother," Storr said.
"Middle age is when a lot of us hit our limitations. We spend our youth dreaming and being ambitious and trying to be this amazing person. We hit middle age and we realize we're not going to end up being Larry Page or whoever."

Don't know who Larry Page is, but I gave up on being perfect sometime in my 20s. I never understood why people depend so much on the opinions of others on what their life is "supposed" to be. Seriously. Do you think snapchatting you grand mocha latte so some stranger in Addis Ababa can look at it matters? Or skydiving some weekend and posting the photos makes your life more awesome? I had beer and wings with my friends a few weeks ago, but I don't broadcast it.


I sound my barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world.
 
2017-06-19 05:29:32 PM  
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What a self-obsessed wanker...
 
2017-06-19 05:29:52 PM  
Meanwhile, someone in Japan is probably writing an article about how the Kofun ers is responsible for hamburgers...
 
2017-06-19 05:33:03 PM  

gopher321: "There's this increasing pressure on us to be perfect in all kinds of different domains, whether we have the perfect body or the perfect job or be the perfect father or perfect mother," Storr said.
"Middle age is when a lot of us hit our limitations. We spend our youth dreaming and being ambitious and trying to be this amazing person. We hit middle age and we realize we're not going to end up being Larry Page or whoever."

Don't know who Larry Page is, but I gave up on being perfect sometime in my 20s. I never understood why people depend so much on the opinions of others on what their life is "supposed" to be. Seriously. Do you think snapchatting you grand mocha latte so some stranger in Addis Ababa can look at it matters? Or skydiving some weekend and posting the photos makes your life more awesome? I had beer and wings with my friends a few weeks ago, but I don't broadcast it.


Actually, I think sending a picture of any kind food to someone in Addis Ababa is a dick move.
 
2017-06-19 05:34:58 PM  
FTA: His findings: Our self-obsession has dangerous consequences, and in his view, leads to depression and suicide.


Not to mention falling off cliffs.
 
2017-06-19 05:37:57 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: I remember working on helping translate some text from about 500BC or so.

I ran into a text where a man was admonishing younger people who purposely 'distressed' their clothing as a statement about themselves.

/it's not a new fad to pretend to play being disadvantaged/homeless and call it 'cool'


They wanted to be like common people. They wanted to do what common people do.

/dance and drink and screw
 
2017-06-19 05:57:21 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: I remember working on helping translate some text from about 500BC or so.

I ran into a text where a man was admonishing younger people who purposely 'distressed' their clothing as a statement about themselves.

/it's not a new fad to pretend to play being disadvantaged/homeless and call it 'cool'


That is actually a pretty cool find
 
2017-06-19 06:02:05 PM  
What's the problem again?

selfscroll.com
 
2017-06-19 06:10:25 PM  

Shazam999: What's the problem again?

[selfscroll.com image 600x721]


You can see her ankles
 
2017-06-19 06:10:49 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: I remember working on helping translate some text from about 500BC or so.

I ran into a text where a man was admonishing younger people who purposely 'distressed' their clothing as a statement about themselves.

/it's not a new fad to pretend to play being disadvantaged/homeless and call it 'cool'


There's a lot of that going around.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."
 
2017-06-19 06:21:48 PM  
"Originally the selfie camera was intended to help us communicate with others through programs like Skype or FaceTime, Storr said, but most of us use it to snap self-portraits and upload them for likes or follows."

Selfie camera?  I'm not sure this guy knows what the hell he's talking about. If he's talking about Skype, then that would be a webcam, but he goes on to talk about uploading images, which would suggest a cellphone. I suppose you can take pictures with a webcam, but I doubt many people would.
 
2017-06-19 06:22:18 PM  
Science!
 
2017-06-19 06:26:49 PM  

gopher321: "There's this increasing pressure on us to be perfect in all kinds of different domains, whether we have the perfect body or the perfect job or be the perfect father or perfect mother," Storr said.
"Middle age is when a lot of us hit our limitations. We spend our youth dreaming and being ambitious and trying to be this amazing person. We hit middle age and we realize we're not going to end up being Larry Page or whoever."

Don't know who Larry Page is, but I gave up on being perfect sometime in my 20s. I never understood why people depend so much on the opinions of others on what their life is "supposed" to be. Seriously. Do you think snapchatting you grand mocha latte so some stranger in Addis Ababa can look at it matters? Or skydiving some weekend and posting the photos makes your life more awesome? I had beer and wings with my friends a few weeks ago, but I don't broadcast it.


He also seems to miss that the whole point of striving for perfection is that it is unattainable. Perfection, like utopia, is an abstract concept, and the value in the idea is striving to achieve it, not actually achieving it.
 
2017-06-19 06:26:52 PM  

xanadian: Well, they did give us democracy and look how well *that's* going for us.


Democracy works.

But you need ostracons.
 
2017-06-19 06:27:55 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 630x473]

Self-portraits have become one of those "You never complained before..." things.


Because back in the day, a self portrait was difficult enough to do that only talented people attempted them.
 
2017-06-19 06:37:35 PM  

doglover: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 630x473]

Self-portraits have become one of those "You never complained before..." things.

Because back in the day, a self portrait was difficult enough to do that only talented people attempted them.


"I'll attempt self-portrait. Wait, I'm not talented, ergo, I attempt not self-portrait. In general, I'll keep on not doing things that I'm not good at, like all people in good present days"
 
2017-06-19 06:48:29 PM  
Actually, I have long wanted to try a selfie stick as a unipod for taking videos...

I travel a lot and take lots of video with my cheapo point-and-shoot cameras and phones, but my arms get tired holding them steady for any great length of time... Even if you have a convenient column to brace against you still have to support them vertically. Are these instruments of Satan able to serve to the good?

/ could probably spend the $5 and find out...
 
2017-06-19 08:48:18 PM  

maxheck: Actually, I have long wanted to try a selfie stick as a unipod for taking videos...

I travel a lot and take lots of video with my cheapo point-and-shoot cameras and phones, but my arms get tired holding them steady for any great length of time... Even if you have a convenient column to brace against you still have to support them vertically. Are these instruments of Satan able to serve to the good?

/ could probably spend the $5 and find out...


Dollar Tree FTW; you can find out for a buck. (plus tax where applicable)
 
2017-06-19 08:52:42 PM  
Proof that there's a Star Wars pic for every Fark thread:

img.fark.net
 
2017-06-19 09:04:44 PM  
LewDux:

Back with film, every photo cost a reasonable ammount of money and you needed a timer on the camera and maybe a tripod to use it.

Before that, you had to be able to draw or paint yourself.

Now, it's free to take and everyone's holding a camera
 
2017-06-19 09:14:10 PM  

doglover: LewDux:

Back with film, every photo cost a reasonable ammount of money and you needed a timer on the camera and maybe a tripod to use it.

Before that, you had to be able to draw or paint yourself.

Now, it's free to take and everyone's holding a camera


That's why, as a starving photography student in college, neither me nor my fellow students would waste precious film, money and effort taking pictures of our freaking lunches.
 
2017-06-19 10:58:37 PM  
"We're brought up in this post-human potential environment where we all believe we're like gods and we're all powerful and we can just choose to be Beyoncé or we can choose to be Michael Jordan," Storr said. "And it's not true. We're limited. When we fail it's often not our faults."

YOU ARE NOT YOUR FARKING KHAKIS.
 
2017-06-20 12:02:26 AM  

bride_of_radarlove: "We're brought up in this post-human potential environment where we all believe we're like gods and we're all powerful and we can just choose to be Beyoncé or we can choose to be Michael Jordan," Storr said. "And it's not true. We're limited. When we fail it's often not our faults."

YOU ARE NOT YOUR FARKING KHAKIS.


docvmp.com
 
2017-06-20 11:10:39 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Proof that there's a Star Wars pic for every Fark thread:
[img.fark.net image 480x462]


No, tis proof that you can illustrate any Fark thread with LEGO.
 
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