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(APM Marketplace)   Think the government flag manufacturers will rush to figure out the new star pattern if Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state? Relax, the new 51 star flag has been ready since the early 1960s   ( marketplace.org) divider line
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2017-06-19 10:05:53 AM  
Yeah, I wouldn't be ordering a big production run of those just yet.
 
2017-06-19 10:35:26 AM  
We should make them merge with Wyoming and call is Wyoming Rico.
 
2017-06-19 11:17:10 AM  
So for years, they've been saying "Thanks, but no thanks" to statehood, instead enjoying many of the benefits of statehood without the downsides.  Now that they have farked their economy into a smoking pile of rubble, they want in all of a sudden?  Fark that.  Cold war's over, we won.  Let's cut them loose and let them prosper on their own.  And those Samoans too.  What a surly bunch they are.
 
2017-06-19 11:21:28 AM  
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What did they ever do to you?
 
2017-06-19 11:22:06 AM  
 
2017-06-19 11:33:04 AM  
9 8 9 8 9 8

"I'll be in the cold, cold ground before I recognize PortaRicah."
 
2017-06-19 11:33:09 AM  
We could always stop recognizing Missouri
 
2017-06-19 11:35:42 AM  
Make sure you order the new ones with a gold fringe.
 
2017-06-19 11:52:54 AM  
That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.
 
2017-06-19 11:53:07 AM  
How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.
 
2017-06-19 11:59:16 AM  

Priapetic: And those Samoans too.


Fine, more for the rest of us:

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2017-06-19 12:02:00 PM  

rudemix: That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.


Puerto Rico would probably vote Dem by a pretty wide margin. They have more population than Kansas. If they have federal representation, they would cut into that majority and everybody knows it.
 
2017-06-19 12:19:30 PM  

TheManofPA: We could always stop recognizing Missouri


Florida.
 
2017-06-19 12:21:37 PM  

dv-ous: rudemix: That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.

Puerto Rico would probably vote Dem by a pretty wide margin. They have more population than Kansas. If they have federal representation, they would cut into that majority and everybody knows it.


Quiet, or you'll ruin the narrative that it's just a tiny island that doesn't need representation because it's so tiny and an island.
 
2017-06-19 12:21:55 PM  
I don't think there's any  other country on Earth that has to change its flag when  it acquires new territory.   Farkin stupid.
 
2017-06-19 12:22:56 PM  
like puerto rico is going to choose to pay federal taxes
 
2017-06-19 12:23:58 PM  

Great_Milenko: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

What did they ever do to you?


You know, it never once occurred to me that the members might not actually be Samoan.
 
2017-06-19 12:25:09 PM  

Konlii: dv-ous: rudemix: That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.

Puerto Rico would probably vote Dem by a pretty wide margin. They have more population than Kansas. If they have federal representation, they would cut into that majority and everybody knows it.

Quiet, or you'll ruin the narrative that it's just a tiny island that doesn't need representation because it's so tiny and an island.


It's got more than twice the population of Hawaii.
 
2017-06-19 12:25:26 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think there's any  other country on Earth that has to change its flag when  it acquires new territory.   Farkin stupid.


Not understand the difference between a territory and a state is dumb, broadcasting it on the internet just makes it easier for all of us to laugh at you
 
2017-06-19 12:25:54 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think there's any  other country on Earth that has to change its flag when  it acquires new territory.   Farkin stupid.


We learned by watching our elders.
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2017-06-19 12:33:13 PM  
I am ok with it as long as we outlaw Ivy Queen.

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2017-06-19 12:36:06 PM  

lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.


And I wouldn't have to update my passport next time I visit.

/ loves me some St. John
 
2017-06-19 12:37:17 PM  

theflatline: I am ok with it as long as we outlaw Ivy Queen.

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That would make getting a handy more than a bit nerve wracking.
 
2017-06-19 12:52:01 PM  

Great_Milenko: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

What did they ever do to you?


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2017-06-19 01:06:07 PM  
Can't we just consolidate the Dakotas to stay at 50? I don't see why we need two.
 
2017-06-19 01:47:25 PM  

rudemix: That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.


Almost like you're an extremist struggling to grasp at reality. Weird.
 
2017-06-19 01:48:00 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Can't we just consolidate the Dakotas to stay at 50? I don't see why we need two.


Or let Mexico reclaim California.
 
2017-06-19 02:03:15 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Can't we just consolidate the Dakotas to stay at 50? I don't see why we need two.


Because the GOP need the extra senators and massive over representation to congress that the two Dakotas give them. What other reason do you really need?
 
2017-06-19 02:19:36 PM  
China must be excited to make new flags for us.
 
2017-06-19 02:56:50 PM  

lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.


And less than 1/5 the population of Wyoming.

Puerto Rico would be #30 by population. As I recall, DC would be #49 (before including PR).

I definitely argue that the difference in population should be reduced if at all possible before being exacerbated. I would say to start by merging all states with population of fewer than 1,000,000 with other (Wyoming and Montana, the Dakotas, Vermont and NH, DC [reduce the district to just the government buildings] and Maryland, not sure where to put Delaware or Alaska) and if the current territories want statehood merge them with another state (USVI and PR, the Pacific islands and Hawaii)
 
2017-06-19 02:58:55 PM  

Konlii: dv-ous: rudemix: That so many were willing to join the US while trump is at the helm and the GOP holds a majority baffles me.

Puerto Rico would probably vote Dem by a pretty wide margin. They have more population than Kansas. If they have federal representation, they would cut into that majority and everybody knows it.

Quiet, or you'll ruin the narrative that it's just a tiny island that doesn't need representation because it's so tiny and an island.


Rhode Island is tiny but is a state.
 
2017-06-19 03:38:27 PM  

dywed88: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And less than 1/5 the population of Wyoming.

Puerto Rico would be #30 by population. As I recall, DC would be #49 (before including PR).

I definitely argue that the difference in population should be reduced if at all possible before being exacerbated. I would say to start by merging all states with population of fewer than 1,000,000 with other (Wyoming and Montana, the Dakotas, Vermont and NH, DC [reduce the district to just the government buildings] and Maryland, not sure where to put Delaware or Alaska) and if the current territories want statehood merge them with another state (USVI and PR, the Pacific islands and Hawaii)


How about merging States into Commonwealths?

( like, 13 of them..)

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2017-06-19 03:58:40 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: dywed88: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And less than 1/5 the population of Wyoming.

Puerto Rico would be #30 by population. As I recall, DC would be #49 (before including PR).

I definitely argue that the difference in population should be reduced if at all possible before being exacerbated. I would say to start by merging all states with population of fewer than 1,000,000 with other (Wyoming and Montana, the Dakotas, Vermont and NH, DC [reduce the district to just the government buildings] and Maryland, not sure where to put Delaware or Alaska) and if the current territories want statehood merge them with another state (USVI and PR, the Pacific islands and Hawaii)

How about merging States into Commonwealths?

( like, 13 of them..)

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We could allow smaller groupings, say of around seven or so states, to unify into one larger, ahem, confederation...
 
2017-06-19 04:07:06 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: How about merging States into Commonwealths?


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2017-06-19 04:15:36 PM  

Nick Nostril: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And I wouldn't have to update my passport next time I visit.

/ loves me some St. John


You have to update your passport to visit USVI?  Really?
 
2017-06-19 04:26:56 PM  
Not exactly difficult.  Back in grade school, I knew that 51 = 3 * 17, so three sets of alternating rows of ( 9 stars then 8 stars) does the job nicely.
 
2017-06-19 04:32:17 PM  
Too bad the original idea of one star and one stripe per state wasn't kept....
 
2017-06-19 05:12:53 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think there's any  other country on Earth that has to change its flag when  it acquires new territory.   Farkin stupid.


Really? Of all the things in the world right now that one could complain about, you pick the flag being changed for new territories?

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2017-06-19 05:39:44 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: You have to update your passport to visit USVI? Really?


Did you bother to check his profile?

"Location:Penzance, UK"

// there's also the BVI, but they're not as touristy/developed as the USVI (EX Tortola has a much more rural feel to it).
 
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2017-06-19 05:51:19 PM  
No.  Bankrupt Puerto Rico cannot suddenly decide to join any more than that stupid federal enclave hanging off of Maryland's ass and teabagging Virginia can.

I refer, of course (or is it reefer?) to the District of Columbia who keeps whining about taxation without representation and not being allowed to have a senator or some such hooey.  Whiners.  Why, back in the ought-oughts we didn't have a senator either.  Only the richest and most influential could afford their very own senator.
 
2017-06-19 05:53:08 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: dywed88: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And less than 1/5 the population of Wyoming.

Puerto Rico would be #30 by population. As I recall, DC would be #49 (before including PR).

I definitely argue that the difference in population should be reduced if at all possible before being exacerbated. I would say to start by merging all states with population of fewer than 1,000,000 with other (Wyoming and Montana, the Dakotas, Vermont and NH, DC [reduce the district to just the government buildings] and Maryland, not sure where to put Delaware or Alaska) and if the current territories want statehood merge them with another state (USVI and PR, the Pacific islands and Hawaii)

How about merging States into Commonwealths?

( like, 13 of them..)

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Maybe Districts?

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2017-06-19 06:11:57 PM  

lordargent: Debeo Summa Credo: You have to update your passport to visit USVI? Really?

Did you bother to check his profile?

"Location:Penzance, UK"

// there's also the BVI, but they're not as touristy/developed as the USVI (EX Tortola has a much more rural feel to it).


Except it still doesn't make sense. A British person needs a passport to enter the US. The only place I could see this would be a foreigner residing in the US. I believe they need to clear customs on landing in the USVI as compared to a flight within the US where that isn't necessary.

However you should probably maintain your passport if you are a non-citizen living in the US.

Unless he was thinking about visa requirements to the US vs USVI being different.
 
2017-06-19 06:42:29 PM  

dywed88: Except it still doesn't make sense. A British person needs a passport to enter the US.


Non US citizens need a passport to enter the US Virgin islands.
(with regards to passports, territories are considered part of the US).

// just like I need a passport to visit the BVI or DWI.
 
2017-06-19 06:42:32 PM  
Puerto Rico defaults on $70 billion and now they want to be a state. It's the global version of moving back in with your parents.
 
2017-06-19 06:46:23 PM  

dywed88: Except it still doesn't make sense.


Reference: https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/980/~/needing-a-passport​-​to-enter-the-united-states-from-u.s.-territories

"U.S. Citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents (LPR's) who travel directly between parts of the United States, which includes Guam, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Swains Island and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI), without touching at a foreign port or place, are not required to present a valid U.S. Passport or U.S. Green Card.
...
Entry requirements for non-U.S. citizens are the same as for entering the United States from any foreign destination. Upon departure, a passport is required for all but U.S. citizens."
 
2017-06-19 06:46:48 PM  

lordargent: dywed88: Except it still doesn't make sense. A British person needs a passport to enter the US.

Non US citizens need a passport to enter the US Virgin islands.
(with regards to passports, territories are considered part of the US).

// just like I need a passport to visit the BVI or DWI.


And would still need one if it were a state. The only difference may be some visa requirements and that a passport is required to travel to the USVI from another part of the US (for non-citizens).
 
2017-06-19 06:50:37 PM  

lordargent: dywed88: Except it still doesn't make sense.

Reference: https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/980/~/needing-a-passport-​to-enter-the-united-states-from-u.s.-territories

"U.S. Citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents (LPR's) who travel directly between parts of the United States, which includes Guam, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Swains Island and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI), without touching at a foreign port or place, are not required to present a valid U.S. Passport or U.S. Green Card.
...
Entry requirements for non-U.S. citizens are the same as for entering the United States from any foreign destination. Upon departure, a passport is required for all but U.S. citizens."


The original comment was that the person needed to update their passport to travel to the USVI.

The only difference is for a non-US citizen travelling to the USVI from the US. And if you are a non-citizen in the US without a valid passport, that is pretty dumb.
 
2017-06-19 06:53:10 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Nick Nostril: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And I wouldn't have to update my passport next time I visit.

/ loves me some St. John

You have to update your passport to visit USVI?  Really?


I mean, have a current passport (mine's about to expire). Last time I was there (2009) you needed a valid passport, even American citizens. I'm assuming it's still the same since our country hasn't gotten any freer since then.
 
2017-06-19 06:56:58 PM  

Nick Nostril: Debeo Summa Credo: Nick Nostril: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And I wouldn't have to update my passport next time I visit.

/ loves me some St. John

You have to update your passport to visit USVI?  Really?

I mean, have a current passport (mine's about to expire). Last time I was there (2009) you needed a valid passport, even American citizens. I'm assuming it's still the same since our country hasn't gotten any freer since then.


If you are a US citizen travelling to and from the US you don't. If you are travelling via another country you do, just like any other travel to/from places in the US.
 
2017-06-19 07:02:29 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Forbidden Doughnut: dywed88: lordargent: How about some statehood for the USVI.

We've been a territory for just about as long, have a lower population density, have a larger percentage of English speakers and a higher GDP per capita.

And less than 1/5 the population of Wyoming.

Puerto Rico would be #30 by population. As I recall, DC would be #49 (before including PR).

I definitely argue that the difference in population should be reduced if at all possible before being exacerbated. I would say to start by merging all states with population of fewer than 1,000,000 with other (Wyoming and Montana, the Dakotas, Vermont and NH, DC [reduce the district to just the government buildings] and Maryland, not sure where to put Delaware or Alaska) and if the current territories want statehood merge them with another state (USVI and PR, the Pacific islands and Hawaii)

How about merging States into Commonwealths?

( like, 13 of them..)

[vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net image 350x184]

Maybe Districts?

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that works as well...
 
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