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(Newsweek)   Heroin addiction costs more than $50 billion per year to treat   ( newsweek.com) divider line
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2017-06-17 11:29:30 PM  
 Sounds like an expensive habit.
 
2017-06-17 11:33:03 PM  
Umm, TFA seems to talk about the cost of not treating heroin addiction.
 
2017-06-18 12:03:20 AM  
Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.
 
2017-06-18 01:45:55 AM  

phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.


This. Sessions' goal is not to win the war on drugs, but to deliver new white recruits to the Aryan Brotherhood and black slaves to the clients of private prisons.
 
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2017-06-18 01:53:57 AM  
If you or someone you love is struggling with a heroin addiction, please consider writing to the address in my profile.  I can work to find help in your area, or I can just be an ear.  I've been there and back, I'm happy to be of help, if.
 
2017-06-18 02:03:42 AM  
The heroin epidemic has not tripled because heroin is so awesome. The heroin epidemic has tripled because for every one heroin addict that loved and became addicted to heroin, two more started with prescribed opiates, became addicted very quickly, and turned to heroin as a cheaper alternative. Go to any treatment program in the country and you'll find the same story. Don't blame Joe Drug Dealer on the Corner. Blame Merck or Bristol Myers Squibb or Phizer or Roche, or whatever company it is today in your 401k that is eventually sending these people to the shiattiest section in town to buy heroin, because they can no longer get a script for, or afford a script for the legal stuff.

/ Rant off
//Not even sure where my rant left off
 
2017-06-18 04:13:09 AM  
Mr. Brownstone is an expensive dance partner.
 
2017-06-18 07:09:20 AM  
The cure for heroin addiction:

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2017-06-18 07:49:28 AM  
Yeah but it's white people who are suffering. It's not like it's the crack epidemic.
 
2017-06-18 08:01:39 AM  

phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.


Let's just treat every crime as mental health problems rather than a legal ones.
Think of all the money we'd save closing all the prisons!
 
2017-06-18 08:12:13 AM  
wardog84: hurrr
 
2017-06-18 08:20:35 AM  

wardog84: phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.

Let's just treat every crime as mental health problems rather than a legal ones.
Think of all the money we'd save closing all the prisons!


LOCK EM UP!
 
2017-06-18 08:21:27 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-06-18 08:22:53 AM  

wardog84: phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.

Let's just treat every crime as mental health problems rather than a legal ones.
Think of all the money we'd save closing all the prisons!


Like every other derpified edgy contrarianism statement you guys make. Yes, treating it like a mental health issue is cheaper and more effective and how the rest of the world does it. You're not proving any point nor do you appear to be informed on the issue. Check your infromation
 
2017-06-18 08:26:59 AM  
So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.
 
2017-06-18 08:42:07 AM  
We have pharmaceutical industry lobbyists to thank for this epidemic -- they constantly fought against legislation to curb the use of opioids and the introduction of ever-more powerful new drugs sold wholesale through "pain clinics."
The same thing happened with meth, which the DEA tried to shut down before it started..
 
2017-06-18 08:43:51 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.


It is legalized.  Heroin is essentially the same substance that is used in the more common prescription pain-killers.   Treatment for the wealthy addicts and their pills is all covered by their insurance.  For those without cheap insurance or none at all, there are always one of Session's work farms as the natural option.
 
2017-06-18 08:52:56 AM  
Doesn't China just round them up and shoot them?
 
2017-06-18 08:56:57 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: The heroin epidemic has not tripled because heroin is so awesome. The heroin epidemic has tripled because for every one heroin addict that loved and became addicted to heroin, two more started with prescribed opiates, became addicted very quickly, and turned to heroin as a cheaper alternative. Go to any treatment program in the country and you'll find the same story. Don't blame Joe Drug Dealer on the Corner. Blame Merck or Bristol Myers Squibb or Phizer or Roche, or whatever company it is today in your 401k that is eventually sending these people to the shiattiest section in town to buy heroin, because they can no longer get a script for, or afford a script for the legal stuff.

/ Rant off
//Not even sure where my rant left off


That's a good story but it's just a small piece in the puzzle. Regardless of who's selling,  people with trauma and mental illness are gonna seek out drugs, the cheapest and most addictive usually win out.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/opioid-addiction​-​is-a-huge-problem-but-pain-prescriptions-are-not-the-cause/
 
2017-06-18 09:01:39 AM  
...per person?

best to just lock them up then
 
2017-06-18 09:02:05 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Doesn't China just round them up and shoot them?


Ugh...rounding them up takes sooo much effort.  Can't we just gun them down in the streets like the Philippines?

/Fark Purdue Pharma
//Double fark Duerte
///Triple fark my heroin addict neighbors
 
2017-06-18 09:03:01 AM  

FatherChaos: [img.fark.net image 500x625]


of all the vices displayed in that pic, my favorite is still the numb-chucks on the door knob

really who throws a shoe uses numb-chucks?
 
2017-06-18 09:08:14 AM  
But we must continue prescribing opioids, the stepping stone to heroin addiction.
 
2017-06-18 09:08:34 AM  

Hyjamon: FatherChaos: [img.fark.net image 500x625]

of all the vices displayed in that pic, my favorite is still the numb-chucks on the door knob


really who throws a shoe uses numb-chucks?


img.fark.net

Numbjas!

 
2017-06-18 09:09:34 AM  

Falmouthed Frankie: NewportBarGuy: Doesn't China just round them up and shoot them?

Ugh...rounding them up takes sooo much effort.  Can't we just gun them down in the streets like the Philippines?

/Fark Purdue Pharma
//Double fark Duerte
///Triple fark my heroin addict neighbors


Purdue PHARMA... Endo make Opana... everyone else makes generics... Mylan, endo, mallinkrodt... so many of them.

Funny thing is, DEA supposedly cut raw ingredients by 30% this year. I haven't seen a shortage yet. We'll see.
 
2017-06-18 09:12:50 AM  
Heroin addiction costs more than $50 billion per year to treat

Of course it does.  You see, much like cancer & other diseases the money is in treatment rather than curing....

/if you cure cancer, all those patients fall on their knees & thank the deity of their choice & go on with their (now longer) lives.
//however if you just 'treat' them then they have to keep coming back for those expensive drugs that pour money into the drug companies...
///very simplistic/cynical but probably not too far off the mark sadly
 
2017-06-18 09:13:20 AM  
Pretty easy to inflate that number when you just hamfistedly toss in $29,000 in "lost" profits.  I'm sorry but Earl the painter is not going to magically make more money painting if he decides to stop gaming the system for Suboxones to sell to other addicts.
 
2017-06-18 09:13:45 AM  

phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.


Easy.
"It is a white rich person problem."
 
2017-06-18 09:19:54 AM  
Just another government subsidy to the pharma industry.
 
2017-06-18 09:31:45 AM  
I'll take a page out of conservatives' rhetoric about AIDS: the problem with opiate addiction is that it doesn't kill fast enough.

There. I think I've been broken by right-wing hate. Nothing is getting fixed in this country because we keep electing these rage-filled self-regarding assholes into power.
 
2017-06-18 09:48:18 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'll take a page out of conservatives' rhetoric about AIDS: the problem with opiate addiction is that it doesn't kill fast enough.


I had to call 911 for my neighbors when they overdosed a few months ago.  Several conservatives asked why I bothered.
 
2017-06-18 09:51:23 AM  
Left untreated it costs almost nothing and sort of takes care of itself
 
2017-06-18 09:52:02 AM  

lilbjorn: Just another government subsidy to the pharma industry.


Nice
 
2017-06-18 09:52:18 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.


So get more people strung out then use that money to fix even more junkies! A bold strategy cotton.
 
2017-06-18 09:54:37 AM  

Jake Havechek: But we must continue prescribing opioids, the stepping stone to heroin addiction.


Doctors are lazy. They prescribe for the 35th time that day and don't bother to follow up or make sure the patient is fine. If the patient doesn't come back they don't notice.  If they do come back, they give more pills, rinse repeat.
 
2017-06-18 09:55:25 AM  

Heywood Jublowme: The Googles Do Nothing: So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.

So get more people strung out then use that money to fix even more junkies! A bold strategy cotton.


Legalize it is always the answer.  Prosecuting bank robberies is so expensive.  We should legalize it and tax their profits.
 
2017-06-18 10:04:54 AM  
On today's episode of "Friends of Drew": people whose tune will change when their family is affected.

"Heroin is like bank robberies, Beavis"
"Yeah! Bank robberies!  Huh huh"

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2017-06-18 10:05:34 AM  

Heywood Jublowme: The Googles Do Nothing: So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.

So get more people strung out then use that money to fix even more junkies! A bold strategy cotton.


Yes, because Prohibition had a YUGE impact on the number of alcoholics in the country
 
2017-06-18 10:05:56 AM  
That's because quarterly profit numbers are more important than civic responsibility. Corporations are people; sociopathic people, but still people.
 
2017-06-18 10:17:06 AM  

wardog84: phaseolus: Yeah. "The authors note that addressing heroin use disorder as a medical rather than a legal problem, one which can be treated, and reducing the number of incarcerated heroin users would save society a lot of money."

Try explaining that to the Attorney General of the U.S., though.

Let's just treat every crime as mental health problems rather than a legal ones.
Think of all the money we'd save closing all the prisons!


After observing what's been tried to combat drug problems both here and around the world, we can see what works and what doesn't work. Way too many United States "conservatives", including our new Attorney General, believe in the responses that have been proven don't work.

They don't care. They don't even care to evaluate what they do. They just do it because they think it's proper, and that's stupid.
 
2017-06-18 10:24:02 AM  

Chris Ween: Legalize it is always the answer. Prosecuting bank robberies is so expensive. We should legalize it and tax their profits.


I found three different fallacy referee images I could throw at this
 
2017-06-18 10:38:39 AM  
It's your auntie with the bad back, who is also a drug addict, in a socially acceptable way.  When Trumpcare cuts her Medicare and Medicaid, what can she do?  Sell half her prescription to junkies.
 
2017-06-18 10:41:57 AM  

433: If you or someone you love is struggling with a heroin addiction, please consider writing to the address in my profile.  I can work to find help in your area, or I can just be an ear.  I've been there and back, I'm happy to be of help, if.


Same here.  Congrats.  Heroin addiction is hell itself.
 
2017-06-18 10:48:54 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Yeah but it's white people who are suffering. It's not like it's the crack epidemic.


It's mostly the wrong kind of white people tho - the kind of white people who have no viable alternative to voting for the GOP because Democrats and Liberals have written them off and are simply waiting for then to die.

(Which is not hyperbole - we used to joke about it on Fark on an almost daily basis. "Why won't they just die off already?" is a sentiment that was all the rage on Fark for a decade, only recently updated to a more urbane "Demography is Destiny." sentiment.)

The best most of these people can expect is to not be demonized to the same degree as the African American community was in the crack epidemic.
 
2017-06-18 11:06:00 AM  

Jake Havechek: It's your auntie with the bad back, who is also a drug addict, in a socially acceptable way.  When Trumpcare cuts her Medicare and Medicaid, what can she do?  Sell half her prescription to junkies.


See!! The free market always finds a way!
 
2017-06-18 11:32:09 AM  

Chris Ween: Heywood Jublowme: The Googles Do Nothing: So.....legalize it then use the proceeds to treat the addiction!   Problem solved.

So get more people strung out then use that money to fix even more junkies! A bold strategy cotton.

Legalize it is always the answer.  Prosecuting bank robberies is so expensive.  We should legalize it and tax their profits.


We stop high speed police pursuits because they are too dangerous.

Prohibition of alcohol proved too costly for the benefit. Isn't this how we got the FBI?

We can institutionalize it, only legal use in approved facilities. We can learn from others that have tried, like Portugal, and improve on those methods.
 
2017-06-18 11:55:18 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Yeah but it's white people who are suffering. It's not like it's the crack epidemic.


Can't just go lock'em all up.
 
2017-06-18 12:10:52 PM  
Don't treat it. Dump all the heroin addicts on an island.
 
2017-06-18 12:43:16 PM  

WilderKWight: Don't treat it. Dump all the heroin addicts on an island made of heroin

 
2017-06-18 12:52:31 PM  
I wonder how much an impact our little eternal playtime in the Afganistan sandbox has on the heroin trade and production.
 
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