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(The Hill)   Trump beats his own polling record, jumps from 60% disapproval to 64% in a matter of days   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-06-16 10:36:27 PM  
Winning!
 
2017-06-16 10:48:46 PM  
Hmmm. 2/3 is what you need in the senate for convection in an impeachment.

Getting tantalizingly close.
 
2017-06-16 10:51:58 PM  

MrBallou: Getting tantalizingly close.


I'm sure the actuals are much higher, but poll respondents from previous polls aren't likely to swallow their pride and admit they farked up by voting Trump..
 
2017-06-16 10:55:33 PM  
Trump is vaulting in unpopularity!

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2017-06-16 11:00:13 PM  
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2017-06-16 11:04:03 PM  

markie_farkie: MrBallou: Getting tantalizingly close.

I'm sure the actuals are much higher, but poll respondents from previous polls aren't likely to swallow their pride and admit they farked up by voting Trump..


From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

The Russia investigation has paralyzed his agenda. If Mueller is on to something, it's only going to get worse for Trump.

But you are right. Most of his base live in a fantasy world, and admitting that they made a mistake in voting for Trump is beyond them.
 
2017-06-16 11:06:35 PM  

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]


We've gone full Poe and back again.  Totally thought that was a made up tweet but it's legit.  That's just pathetic.
 
2017-06-16 11:17:05 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: some of them might begin to feel irritated.


"We're slightly Miffed......derpgoggell"
 
2017-06-16 11:25:23 PM  

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]


"He's just like me! I got 50s up until I dropped out of high school!"
 
2017-06-16 11:50:38 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.


Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.
 
2017-06-16 11:59:18 PM  

Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.


It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.
 
2017-06-17 12:07:23 AM  
While the president entered the White House with relative unpopularity, the AP noted, his dwindling approval numbers and perceived disrespect for the country's institutions show mounting challenges for Trump as he seeks to cast himself as a unifying figure.
 
2017-06-17 12:08:51 AM  

Paris1127: While the president entered the White House with relative unpopularity, the AP noted, his dwindling approval numbers and perceived disrespect for the country's institutions show mounting challenges for Trump as he seeks to cast himself as a unifying figure.


Well, in a way he's succeeded...

/stupid phone
//accidentally hit add comment instead of preview
 
2017-06-17 12:21:01 AM  

Paris1127: While the president entered the White House with relative unpopularity, the AP noted, his dwindling approval numbers and perceived disrespect for the country's institutions show mounting challenges for Trump as he seeks to cast himself as a unifying figure.


More and more people are uniting in the feeling that he should never have been in charge of anything larger than a bake sale, so he might get his wish.

Won't he be so proud if Congress can set aside their differences and agree to give a whole special session just about him?
 
2017-06-17 12:40:33 AM  
i think we may have found the guy who didn't laugh at 'descent is the highest form of patriotic'
 
2017-06-17 12:43:04 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Winning!


I, for one, am getting really damn sick of all this winning.
 
2017-06-17 02:00:13 AM  

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]


Guess they still haven't explained to him what a statistical outlier is:

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2017-06-17 02:22:56 AM  

Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.


With a normal predisent I would agree with you. However with Donald Fredovich he could have a really big effect on the economy. A war with Best Korea. Going after China for being currency manipulators. Pissing off our allies and trading partners. The whole Mexicans = bad thing. His tax plan/budget/whatever. Repealing healthcare for 23M people. Even his latest bullshiat with Cuba. All of that will effect the economy in a negative way.
 
2017-06-17 02:27:31 AM  

Uncle Eazy: With a normal predisent I would agree with you. However with Donald Fredovich he could have a really big effect on the economy. A war with Best Korea. Going after China for being currency manipulators. Pissing off our allies and trading partners. The whole Mexicans = bad thing. His tax plan/budget/whatever. Repealing healthcare for 23M people. Even his latest bullshiat with Cuba. All of that will effect the economy in a negative way.


Well yeah of course. I'm talking about up till now. He's taking credit for the upturn in the economy and he hasn't done anything yet.
 
2017-06-17 02:46:51 AM  

davidphogan: Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.

It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.


In before someone posts that copypasta with the "illegal immigration dropped 70%" thing that's probably a lie.
 
2017-06-17 03:38:22 AM  

timujin: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

Guess they still haven't explained to him what a statistical outlier is:

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It's like the unemployment numbers.  They're only accurate if they make him look good (or less bad) and are happening to him.  Otherwise, FAKE NEWS!
 
2017-06-17 03:48:51 AM  

davidphogan: Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.

It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.


Sorry but I gotta fix that for ya.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, they'll just scream that liberals are demon possessed, everything evil is exclusively the liberals' fault, and that liberals should be exterminated, they way they always do.
 
2017-06-17 03:54:49 AM  

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]


That's as stupid as when my football team's druggie dipshiat owner hung a runner-up banner.

Is Donnie bad at math to the point that he doesnt get that 50% approval means even Rasmussen is saying 50% DISapproval.
 
2017-06-17 03:59:42 AM  

themindiswatching: In before someone posts that copypasta with the "illegal immigration dropped 70%" thing that's probably a lie.


Granted, immigration, tourism, and foreign college students are down, from what I've heard.  People don't want to come to Trumpy Land.
 
2017-06-17 04:00:42 AM  

AquaTatanka: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

That's as stupid as when my football team's druggie dipshiat owner hung a runner-up banner.

Is Donnie bad at math to the point that he doesnt get that 50% approval means even Rasmussen is saying 50% DISapproval.


There's always a few percentage points' worth of dullards and mugwumps who profess to be undecided.
 
2017-06-17 04:03:48 AM  

AquaTatanka: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

That's as stupid as when my football team's druggie dipshiat owner hung a runner-up banner.

Is Donnie bad at math to the point that he doesnt get that 50% approval means even Rasmussen is saying 50% DISapproval.


Dude.

Think about how clueless the guy is. He's completely incapable of thinking why people would dislike him.
 
2017-06-17 04:04:10 AM  

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]


Why does anyone, including donny farkface twoscoops mcretard, associate an approval of 50% with 'MAGA'? Get to work, you miserable shiatpile.
 
2017-06-17 04:11:22 AM  
Fifty alleged percent from Rattmussen means that the OTHER HALF is telling you to F off, Donald.
 
2017-06-17 04:11:59 AM  

themindiswatching: In before someone posts that copypasta with the "illegal immigration dropped 70%" thing that's probably a lie.


who the fark wants to come here any more?
 
2017-06-17 04:23:01 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2017-06-17 04:43:09 AM  

MrBallou: Hmmm. 2/3 is what you need in the senate for convection in an impeachment.

Getting tantalizingly close.


If each Senator had to run nationwide. Did we learn nothing from 2016?

To get 67, you need 19 Republicans. What are Trump's numbers among Republicans in the red state where his numbers are ranked 10th from worst? I say primary because its a red state, that's probably the incumbent's biggest worry.

Based on the   2016 results , that puts you somewhere in the south, probably Missouri, Mississippi, or Louisiana. If the Dems can pick up a couple of seats in the midterms, you move that up to, say, Georgia as you only need 17 Republicans.

When Trump's approval among Republicans in these southern states gets below 50%, you might see impeachment. Last state level numbers I saw, which I think were in April, had him in the low 70s.

I could see him getting jarring moments of either scandal or economic jolts, or promise fails (no wall, no O-care repeal, or Medicaid expansion rolled back, etc). Those can knock off three or four points at a time. General disillusionment can easily erode a point a month.

Given those numbers, its very hard to see those 67 votes in anything less than 10-12 months minimum and likely more like double that. 2019, you have a Dem House (Trump will do wonders for turnout), and then you might have enough southerners on board to get a conviction.
 
2017-06-17 05:06:28 AM  

davidphogan: Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.

It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.


College grad living in the city here and 80 - 95% of the people I know can't find steady jobs and lack health insurance
 
2017-06-17 05:11:03 AM  
They lied when they were asked if they were voting for trump before the election and they'll lie now and say they still support him.
 
2017-06-17 05:14:26 AM  

timujin: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

Guess they still haven't explained to him what a statistical outlier is:

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And Rasmussen is always a statistical outlier.
 
2017-06-17 05:23:56 AM  
The only time Trump is a successful alternative is in a game of Pinochle...
 
2017-06-17 05:25:48 AM  

Chariset: Paris1127: While the president entered the White House with relative unpopularity, the AP noted, his dwindling approval numbers and perceived disrespect for the country's institutions show mounting challenges for Trump as he seeks to cast himself as a unifying figure.

More and more people are uniting in the feeling that he should never have been in charge of anything larger than a bake sale, so he might get his wish.

Won't he be so proud if Congress can set aside their differences and agree to give a whole special session just about him?


Imagine a Trump bake sale. $25,000 for a cake that comes with a promise to turn you into a millionaire in your spare time, no unpleasant bending, results guaranteed.

And there are *still* fools who would line up to buy.
 
2017-06-17 05:48:28 AM  

timujin: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

Guess they still haven't explained to him what a statistical outlier is:

[img.fark.net image 850x235]


Worse than that, this Rasmussen poll is even an outlier of itself when you compare to past Rasmussen polls
 
2017-06-17 06:07:24 AM  
I approve of his "yelling at the television" policy, because I've been doing that since January and I'm glad I finally have something in common with the dumpster-fire-in-chief.
 
2017-06-17 06:23:47 AM  

Scanty Em: Chariset: Paris1127: While the president entered the White House with relative unpopularity, the AP noted, his dwindling approval numbers and perceived disrespect for the country's institutions show mounting challenges for Trump as he seeks to cast himself as a unifying figure.

More and more people are uniting in the feeling that he should never have been in charge of anything larger than a bake sale, so he might get his wish.

Won't he be so proud if Congress can set aside their differences and agree to give a whole special session just about him?

Imagine a Trump bake sale. $25,000 for a cake that comes with a promise to turn you into a millionaire in your spare time, no unpleasant bending, results guaranteed.

And there are *still* fools who would line up to buy.


It'll be the best chocolate cake.
 
2017-06-17 06:26:32 AM  
How do they collect this data?

I'd like to believe their methodology is out of date. You know, stuff like land line calls, and mail surveys. . . stuff that only the elderly would get. That's what I tell myself to justify the fact that 1/3rd of this country still thinks this is okay.
 
2017-06-17 06:36:13 AM  

topcatyo: davidphogan: Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.

It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.

College grad living in the city here and 80 - 95% of the people I know can't find steady jobs and lack health insurance


How old are you?  Seriously, curious about your age group.
 
2017-06-17 06:44:55 AM  

born_yesterday: topcatyo: davidphogan: Mugato: thatguyoverthere70: From what I've read, most of the remaining Trump supporters don't care about Russia, but a lot of them do care about his other promises. If they don't start to feel the effects of a relatively strong economy soon, some of them might begin to feel irritated.

Morons. The President doesn't have much control over the economy directly but he does have control over his being asshole buddies with Russia. Anyway, I didn't think the economy was that bad now.

It really depends on where you are and who you know.  If your friends are mostly college graduates and you live in a city, things probably seem great.  It's a little different when you get out into some of the smaller towns that are having big problems with opiates, un/underemployment, and losing most of the younger population to the cities that have more jobs.

When that slice of America starts realizing he's not helping, he'll be in trouble.  If they can see the forest through all the damned liberal trees.

College grad living in the city here and 80 - 95% of the people I know can't find steady jobs and lack health insurance

How old are you?  Seriously, curious about your age group.


26
 
2017-06-17 07:30:12 AM  

Courtney Cox-Zucker: I approve of his "yelling at the television" policy, because I've been doing that since January and I'm glad I finally have something in common with the dumpster-fire-in-chief.


It's even funnier when you realize he's almost certainly watching Fox News.

MattytheMouse: How do they collect this data?

I'd like to believe their methodology is out of date. You know, stuff like land line calls, and mail surveys


Yeah, sure, they can't possibly have figured out a way to reach people who don't have landlines. Multi-million dollar operations but there's no way they would bother to crack that nut.

Seriously?  For a start, YouGov does it via internet. They have a pool of people whose demographics they know so they can weight the results properly. I'm sure some other firms do that.

Some - gasp! - call cell phones. Humans making phone calls.  You do know how weighting works - that if you didn't have any, say, people under 30, and your target sample should have x% of those, then you don't have a poll.
 
2017-06-17 07:42:41 AM  
He is just doing what my teammates and I would do at spades... we used to sandbag the shiat out of everyone till we could reach -500 before they could reach 500 just for the lulz... then we would beat them the normal way next game. :)

/Nth dimensional chess people...  he is a master baiter.
 
2017-06-17 07:48:57 AM  

timujin: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 603x548]

Guess they still haven't explained to him what a statistical outlier is:

[img.fark.net image 850x235]


Or that even 50% approval for a new president within their first 6 months isn't a good thing.
 
2017-06-17 08:07:03 AM  
7 US Sailors missing and the guy is re-tweeting Hannity and Gingrich talking about "Deep State"
No wonder his approval rating is sinking fast.
 
2017-06-17 08:20:34 AM  
More important is that his "strongly approve" support has collapsed. Its softened and moved towards the middle, even though they still "approve" overall. A big event, like say firing Mueller, would lilely collapse his support base entirely
 
2017-06-17 08:23:19 AM  

MattytheMouse: How do they collect this data?

I'd like to believe their methodology is out of date. You know, stuff like land line calls, and mail surveys. . . stuff that only the elderly would get. That's what I tell myself to justify the fact that 1/3rd of this country still thinks this is okay.


They almost all call cellphones, and call multiple times. Some offer a form of online too (but you must be selected by a call, you cant just self select). The only one that does it the old school way is Rasmussen, which has the skewed results you would expect
 
2017-06-17 08:51:48 AM  

Lost Thought 00: MattytheMouse: How do they collect this data?

I'd like to believe their methodology is out of date. You know, stuff like land line calls, and mail surveys. . . stuff that only the elderly would get. That's what I tell myself to justify the fact that 1/3rd of this country still thinks this is okay.

They almost all call cellphones, and call multiple times. Some offer a form of online too (but you must be selected by a call, you cant just self select). The only one that does it the old school way is Rasmussen, which has the skewed results you would expect


And I imagine it depends on who you are polling.
Are you polling Americans, or are you polling 'MURICANS ?
 
2017-06-17 09:01:57 AM  

MrBallou: Hmmm. 2/3 is what you need in the senate for convection in an impeachment.

Getting tantalizingly close.


If there was any correlation between public opinion and what Congress does, we'd have universal healthcare by now, instead of Congress actively working to make our healthcare system worse.
 
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