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(ESPN)   University of Central Florida asks kicker to stop making money off his YouTube videos, tells him to be like the other players and just get his money under the table in illegal payments from alumni   ( espn.com) divider line
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2017-06-15 03:28:19 PM  
I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.
 
2017-06-15 05:19:44 PM  

tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.


And increase tuition by what, 500%?
 
2017-06-15 08:28:54 PM  

tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.


I agree with this. And also while we are in the "should" world, let's make losers of leagues drop down and winners of miners move up like British soccer.
 
2017-06-15 08:34:26 PM  

Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?


I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.
 
2017-06-15 08:52:03 PM  

Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.


http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_​n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?
 
2017-06-15 09:10:42 PM  

Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?


I think we just went through this a few weeks ago too
 
2017-06-15 09:23:41 PM  

JolobinSmokin: And also while we are in the "should" world, let's make losers of leagues drop down and winners of miners move up like British soccer.


The CFL team that wins the Gray Cup gets to join the NFL and the Browns go to the CFL.
 
2017-06-15 09:34:53 PM  

IHadMeAVision: JolobinSmokin: And also while we are in the "should" world, let's make losers of leagues drop down and winners of miners move up like British soccer.

The CFL team that wins the Gray Cup gets to join the NFL and the Browns go to the CFL.


No.

No. No no no.

NO.

NNNOOOOO!

FARK NO.

You made the Browns. You keep them.
 
2017-06-15 09:38:57 PM  
 
2017-06-15 10:31:07 PM  

johnny_vegas: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I think we just went through this a few weeks ago too


A few schools give a tiny bit of direct support, most are a bit of a direct drain, and there's the hard to quantify factor of advertising for the school.  Here's an article on the latter.

http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/92235/fgcu​s​-enrollment-did-exactly-what-youd-expect
 
2017-06-15 10:57:47 PM  

Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?


I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.
 
2017-06-15 10:59:53 PM  

Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?


So UT Athletics gave the academic institution $20M over the past 10 years...?

Commence the circle jerk..
 
2017-06-15 11:17:19 PM  
"I feel like they're making me pick between my passion in what I love to do"

You could simply stop referencing your athletic participation in your videos.  That way you wouldn't have to choose.
/ Why not both.jpg
 
2017-06-16 12:05:14 AM  

TheFoz: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

So UT Athletics gave the academic institution $20M over the past 10 years...?

Commence the circle jerk..


Also cherry picking two big sports schools. Most college sports can't even support themselves and are subsidized by tuition and the state.

If Tennessee gives the most to the college (why use them as an example otherwise?), and they're 0.4%, that yeah, that actually totally supports the idea that athletics income is inconsequential to  the rest of the university.
 
2017-06-16 12:57:07 AM  
Actually this was the NCAA not the university
 
2017-06-16 12:58:39 AM  

Shotgun Justice: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.


Actually its been proven from other schools that once they drop major sports programs the donations from alumni goes away.
 
2017-06-16 01:36:27 AM  

Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?


From another article on the matter:
"The fact is, UCF's football program is a money loser and the only the reason the Knights can fund the program at a competitive level is because of an exorbitant student athletic fee, which is essentially a "football tax" that all of UCF's 60,000-plus students must pay for every semester hour they take."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-sp-ucf-kicker-ncaa​-​mike-bianchi-0615-story.html

You were saying?
 
2017-06-16 02:52:04 AM  

steamingpile: Actually this was the NCAA not the university


Actually this was the university, citing possible NCAA violations, but not the NCAA themselves.
 
2017-06-16 06:46:26 AM  
illegal payments from alumni

I swear to Cthulu, I couldn't read that for the longest time.  I read "aluminum" and when I couldn't wrap my head around under-the-table mob style aluminum fraud, I went back to read it again and came up with illuminati.  Why would the illuminati be paying college football kickers?  How do they fit in with plans for global domination?

Coffee hasn't had time to work.  My brain is a scary place.
 
2017-06-16 07:22:10 AM  

Shotgun Justice: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.


Yeah, but they would jack up tuition 500% because of course they would.
 
2017-06-16 07:40:12 AM  

LoneWolf343: Shotgun Justice: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.

Yeah, but they would jack up tuition 500% because of course they would.


Hell, they run low on non-dairy creamer in the reagents' boardroom and they'll jack up tuition.
 
2017-06-16 08:50:49 AM  
Well of course he has to shut down! If you allow college athletes to make self-sustaining money, how will you make them reliant on the university and it's alumni? Next thing you know they'll be dancing.
 
2017-06-16 09:28:04 AM  

Shotgun Justice: LoneWolf343: Shotgun Justice: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.

Yeah, but they would jack up tuition 500% because of course they would.

Hell, they run low on non-dairy creamer in the reagents' boardroom and they'll jack up tuition.


That'll certainly get a reaction.

/sorry
 
2017-06-16 09:39:00 AM  

Shotgun Justice: Carousel Beast: Shotgun Justice: Mugato: tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.

And increase tuition by what, 500%?

I pray to God you don't actually believe that sports in any way support a university's general budget.

http://www.utsports.com/genrel/031009aab.html
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/genrel/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_n​on_event/2013-athletics-report.pdf

Sucks when reality doesn't support your narrative, doesn't it?

I had a long spiel that got deleted but basically it boiled down to:
Tennessee (2017 budget) general revenues $2.204 billion.
Athletic contributions using their 2010 prediction (since you didn't provide anything more recent): $10.35 million
Percentage of contribution:  0.4%

Texas (Probably richest athletics in the country) (2014 budget)? $2.658 billion
Athletic contributions (including donation of replaced buildings):  $5.5 million per year extrapolated
Percentage of contribution:  0.2%

With those types of numbers, basically a rounding error, not hardly a required source of income.


Careful, those goalposts look heavy.
 
2017-06-16 11:02:12 AM  

tjsands1118: I've said it before and I'll say it again, sports need to be separated from academics. College sports should be a seperate league and players should be paid, as the league makes millions off said players.


You almost got it right, but missed the target.  College sports should be eliminated entirely.  There is no way to square a university's educational mission with a televised money-making sports franchise.  And why the hell is an engineering student paying for a fencer to train for the Olympics?
 
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