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(BBC-US)   Trump says he's "100% willing" to speak under oath. Popcorn futures explode   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2017-06-09 03:40:39 PM  
Just like he's going to release his tax returns when the audit is over?
 
2017-06-09 03:42:42 PM  
Until he changes his mind.
 
2017-06-09 03:43:20 PM  
Oh yes. oh hell yes.

You just know his staff came rushing to tackle him to the ground after that.
 
2017-06-09 03:43:27 PM  

real_headhoncho: Just like he's going to release his tax returns when the audit is over?


and unlike obama, he will not dodge questions
 
2017-06-09 03:44:16 PM  
FTA: Mr Comey says Mr Trump fired him because of the Russia inquiry.

Funny, Mr. Trump said the same thing.
 
2017-06-09 03:46:00 PM  
"Sorry everyone, he didn't know that meant he wasn't allowed to lie. He's new."
 
2017-06-09 03:46:31 PM  
100% willing to lie under oath is... closer to the truth
 
2017-06-09 03:46:32 PM  

dr_blasto: real_headhoncho: Just like he's going to release his tax returns when the audit is over?

and unlike obama, he will not dodge questions


Well he certainly won't wear a tan suit and order the wrong kind of mustard.
 
2017-06-09 03:46:34 PM  
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
 
2017-06-09 03:47:28 PM  
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He said he's willing to "speak" under oath, not that he's willing to tell the truth.
 
2017-06-09 03:49:34 PM  
..and by "swear an oath" he means that the investigating committee needs to swear loyalty to him first.
 
2017-06-09 03:53:09 PM  
Since they take the view a president can't be prosecuted while in office anyway, it seems like the oath serves little deterrent value.

And having seen tapes of his deposition performance in civil cases, it will be a storm of confused and useless words that don't actually accomplish much for anyone on either side.
 
2017-06-09 03:55:04 PM  
Just like that Bernie Sanders debate he agreed to?
 
2017-06-09 03:55:23 PM  
Meh, the GOP is in charge, and they don't want to pursue this, they have sold their souls and do not care.  This will go nowhere.
 
2017-06-09 03:55:43 PM  

Moooooo K: [img.fark.net image 568x640]

He said he's willing to "speak" under oath, not that he's willing to tell the truth.


They got a word for when you say stuff that isn't true while under oath. Pretty sure it comes with criminal charges.
 
2017-06-09 03:57:27 PM  

wejash: Since they take the view a president can't be prosecuted while in office anyway, it seems like the oath serves little deterrent value.

And having seen tapes of his deposition performance in civil cases, it will be a storm of confused and useless words that don't actually accomplish much for anyone on either side.


And if he should be indicted by a grand jury for perjury, a Federal judge can put said indictment under seal until he leaves office.
 
Ant
2017-06-09 03:58:15 PM  
Like Trump gives a shiat about oaths...
 
2017-06-09 04:01:16 PM  
I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.
 
2017-06-09 04:08:37 PM  
I can't wait for the GOP spin as to what qualifies as a lie, a fib, a white lie, perjury, and "he was in the ballpark of truthiness"
 
2017-06-09 04:14:59 PM  

FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.


I'm not sure what I expected this to be, but it wasn't the complete denial of everything Comey said happened. I honestly don't know what donald's play is in this scenario.
 
2017-06-09 04:15:28 PM  
doesn't matter. he doesn't know how to keep an oath.
 
2017-06-09 04:17:10 PM  

Moooooo K: FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.

I'm not sure what I expected this to be, but it wasn't the complete denial of everything Comey said happened. I honestly don't know what donald's play is in this scenario.


Keep talking until he says something semi sane. Didn't work.
 
2017-06-09 04:19:16 PM  
what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.
 
2017-06-09 04:21:10 PM  

ManateeGag: doesn't matter. he doesn't know how to keep an oath.


I'd love to see it. He would lie and then he exposed. To see the GOP and their media arms face this would be beyond priceless.

Our Republic would fall if they didn't punish him for it. If he can't be held accountable when he breaks the law on camera in front of the world, nothing can stop him.
 
2017-06-09 04:23:58 PM  

munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.


Let's find out, shall we?
 
2017-06-09 04:25:27 PM  

ManateeGag: doesn't matter. he doesn't know how to keep an oath.


Sure he does.  A marriage vow is an oath, right?  And he's kept three of them.
 
2017-06-09 04:27:28 PM  

Mad Scientist: ManateeGag: doesn't matter. he doesn't know how to keep an oath.

Sure he does.  A marriage vow is an oath, right?  And he's kept three of them.


Well he made three of them.
 
2017-06-09 04:31:31 PM  
"President Trump, do you promise to speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?"
"Yes.  Haha!  I lied just then.  That means I can lie as much as I want."
"No, President Trump, you have to-"
"Whatever.  I'm gonna plead the sixteenth.  I can do that, right?  Which one is that?"
"-you demand the right to levy an income tax?"
"No, no, someone get me a constitution.  I know my rights.  You hafta read me that thing about the lady with the fruit basket on her head."
*Lawyer at Trump's side faints*
"Okay, I'll cut you all a deal.  Half off.  I'm gonna plead the eighth."
"Do you even know what that one says?"
"Well, no, how am I gonna know that if someone doesn't read it to me? I know my rights.  I've got the best rights.  See?  All of 'em are on my side."
"Mister President, if you don't come to order, I'm going to be forced to declare you in contempt of-"
"Come to order?  I don't come to order, that's what I pay my Latvian prostitutes for!"
*Faint sobs from Sean Spicer's office*
 
2017-06-09 04:34:15 PM  

wejash: Since they take the view a president can't be prosecuted while in office anyway, it seems like the oath serves little deterrent value.

And having seen tapes of his deposition performance in civil cases, it will be a storm of confused and useless words that don't actually accomplish much for anyone on either side.


Is it still perjury if all you utter under oath is a string of incomprehensible nonsense?
 
2017-06-09 04:39:45 PM  
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2017-06-09 04:39:54 PM  

munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.


Yeah-- bet on the guy who has lied repeatedly and needlessly about easily verifiable facts, and not the guy who is so epically committed to the integrity and mission of the FBI that he has repeatedly stepped in shiat while trying to protect that.

/I mean, the sun COULD come up in the West tomorrow-- even though it never has and it would defy all evidence to the contrary.
 
2017-06-09 04:44:56 PM  
If he does, the very first question needs to be "Did you have the largest inauguration crowd in history?". If he actually says no, next question should be "was your inauguration crowd larger than Obama's?", and watch him squirm.
 
2017-06-09 04:45:57 PM  
I honestly don't think Trump knew what he was agreeing to during the exchange, he was off the handle pretty much immediately.  He blurted out two word descriptions of things he wasn't guilty of, rapid fire, and talked over the reporter repeatedly.
 
2017-06-09 04:52:43 PM  
I wonder if his lawyers just wear Depends all day because you never know when Trump's going to say something like this that will make them shiat themselves uncontrollably.
 
2017-06-09 04:55:08 PM  

munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.



How's the air on your planet?
 
2017-06-09 04:56:37 PM  
media.giphy.com
 
2017-06-09 05:09:15 PM  

Blues_X: munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.


How's the air on your planet?


It's hot, and there's lots of it.
 
2017-06-09 05:48:58 PM  
If there are tapes, he had better release them or submit them as evidence, because Trump needs something to combat the memos released to the press by Comey
 
2017-06-09 05:55:50 PM  

FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.

"I didn't say that, and even if I did, there would be nothing wrong with it"


The only person who says "I didn't do it and there wouldn't be anything wrong if I did" I someone who actually did it, and knows they're wrong
 
2017-06-09 05:58:38 PM  

munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.


Alright, I'll take you seriously for one minute.

First, Comey did not say "all the media have it wrong."

Can't you make your point without conflating what he literally said -- that he disputed one NYT article and could not explain the reasons why for classified reasons -- with what you want to believe?

You're complaining about liberals only hearing what they want to hear and in the same gasp you do what you accuse us of doing.
 
As far as your general point:  It is ABSOLUTELY possible that Mr. Trump did nothing criminal with the Russians.  Or even really inappropriate.

However, it is within his power to prove that very quickly.  He can issue pardons to everyone involved so they can testify clearly without fear of prosecution.  In open and classified settings.  It could be done in a couple months.  He would be vindicated in the end under your theory of the case.

He has not done so.  He could but he won't.  The only logical reason why is that they would have to testify completely ad truthfully or risk perjury charges.

None of this will, however, negate the reality that his own conduct and statements -- without anything from Comey -- implicate him in an effort to interfere with or influence the course of a federal investigation.  He told multiple sources he fired Comey because of the investigation. 

That's an entirely  separate issue.  Even if he's not guilty of anything with Russia, the obstruction issue will still hang over his head.  Bob Mueller could choose to advise that it not be charged.  A judge can hold such indictments in abeyance.  He could win at a trial with a jury.   The House could choose not to impeach for tat conduct.  Or he could win the trial in the Senate.

But these are two separate issues that grew out of the same thing originally.  Just as the Lewinsky thing was investigated by a guy appointed to investigate a pre-presidency land deal that he ultimately found was not criminal.
 
2017-06-09 06:02:51 PM  

poorjon: FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.

"I didn't say that, and even if I did, there would be nothing wrong with it"

The only person who says "I didn't do it and there wouldn't be anything wrong if I did" I someone who actually did it, and knows they're wrong


I didn't have sex with Scarlett Johansenn, and there would be nothing wrong with it if I did.
 
2017-06-09 06:12:41 PM  

naughtyrev: poorjon: FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.

"I didn't say that, and even if I did, there would be nothing wrong with it"

The only person who says "I didn't do it and there wouldn't be anything wrong if I did" I someone who actually did it, and knows they're wrong

I didn't have sex with Scarlett Johansenn, and there would be nothing wrong with it if I did.


Lordy, I hope there aren't tapes
 
2017-06-09 06:40:59 PM  

wejash: Since they take the view a president can't be prosecuted while in office anyway, it seems like the oath serves little deterrent value.

And having seen tapes of his deposition performance in civil cases, it will be a storm of confused and useless words that don't actually accomplish much for anyone on either side.


That.
 
2017-06-09 06:42:58 PM  
Watching the news this morning one of the "analysts" made a surprisingly good point:

If there ARE tapes, then releasing them should be the VERY first thing the administration did this morning. 
Prove Comey is either full of shizz or at the very least discredit him for incorrectly remembering things that his memos documented.

But there are no tapes. Just like there was never evidence that Obama was from Kenya. Remember that? Oh yeah, that's right...

img.fark.net

How did that play out, again?
 
2017-06-09 06:44:16 PM  
He'll lie and no one will do anything about it. And it will be like any other day.
 
2017-06-09 06:44:44 PM  

naughtyrev: poorjon: FortyHams: I really recommend watching the video of this exchange Trump is unhinged.

"I didn't say that, and even if I did, there would be nothing wrong with it"

The only person who says "I didn't do it and there wouldn't be anything wrong if I did" I someone who actually did it, and knows they're wrong

I didn't have sex with Scarlett Johansenn, and there would be nothing wrong with it if I did.


In my universe there would be.  For one thing, leave my wife alone.

/Sky's slightly greenish in my universe, why do you  ask?
 
2017-06-09 06:58:57 PM  

wejash: munko: what if he really has nothing to fear?  It seems the anti-Trump people get their info and make up their minds about stuff they know nothing about.  Except for what they saw on MSNBC or CNN etc. Or from Colbert.   I mean, what if a man, who was trying to do his best, has been working hard and accomplishing his goals and still fights off people, who make false statements about him, try everything to bring him down, including russian collusion is innocent.  It is possible.  No evidence has been leaked that proves otherwise.  Comey just said all the media have it wrong but they can't say much.

Alright, I'll take you seriously for one minute.

First, Comey did not say "all the media have it wrong."

Can't you make your point without conflating what he literally said -- that he disputed one NYT article and could not explain the reasons why for classified reasons -- with what you want to believe?

You're complaining about liberals only hearing what they want to hear and in the same gasp you do what you accuse us of doing.

As far as your general point:  It is ABSOLUTELY possible that Mr. Trump did nothing criminal with the Russians.  Or even really inappropriate.

However, it is within his power to prove that very quickly.  He can issue pardons to everyone involved so they can testify clearly without fear of prosecution.  In open and classified settings.  It could be done in a couple months.  He would be vindicated in the end under your theory of the case.

He has not done so.  He could but he won't.  The only logical reason why is that they would have to testify completely ad truthfully or risk perjury charges.

None of this will, however, negate the reality that his own conduct and statements -- without anything from Comey -- implicate him in an effort to interfere with or influence the course of a federal investigation.  He told multiple sources he fired Comey because of the investigation.
That's an entirely  separate issue.  Even if he's not guilty of anything...


Nice try, but I bolded the only portions he heard.
 
2017-06-09 07:03:53 PM  
Like a moth to the flame, he'll testify in the same seat (gold plated) Comey did next week. The highest ratings and most viewers ever.

I'd take off work, buy a bottle of good bourbon and make a paper grocery bag full of stove top buttered goodness.


/skee
 
2017-06-09 07:11:02 PM  

propasaurus: Nice try, but I bolded the only portions he heard.


The Fox helmet with Lumbaugh FilterTM is a very popular model my part of the country, I know.

media.licdn.com
 
2017-06-09 07:39:29 PM  

PreMortem: a paper grocery bag full of stove top buttered goodness


Buttery Males
 
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