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(Metro)   Student banned from university's wi-fi for illegally downloading: A) Test answers. B) Porn. C) The movie Chicken Run   ( metro.co.uk) divider line
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2017-05-19 02:37:09 PM  
 When the chickens got their contraption airborne, I cheered loudly and clapped. I was alone, and not high or anything. I'm a dork, OK?
 
2017-05-19 02:53:21 PM  
If we banned students from our Wifi for downloading porn there wouldn't be any students on Wifi.

99%+ of our internet traffic is "Streaming video"  We can break it out farther than that if we want, but for PR purposes let's just pretend it's all Netflix and Youtube.
 
2017-05-19 03:44:37 PM  
68.media.tumblr.com
 
2017-05-19 03:52:18 PM  
= No WI-FI?!?!  This is like an egregious violation of the girl's basic human rights.  Like, totally.
 
2017-05-19 03:55:52 PM  
Use a VPN you idiots.
 
2017-05-19 03:56:32 PM  
It's free on Amazon prime too.
 
2017-05-19 03:59:34 PM  
Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.
 
2017-05-19 03:59:41 PM  
If she were in the US, only the uploading would be illegal.
 
2017-05-19 04:00:09 PM  
Isn't Mel Gibson in that movie?

I think he played a cock.

Like he does in all his movies.
 
2017-05-19 04:03:06 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: If we banned students from our Wifi for downloading porn there wouldn't be any students on Wifi.

99%+ of our internet traffic is "Streaming video"  We can break it out farther than that if we want, but for PR purposes let's just pretend it's all Netflix and Youtube.


That's why I use the hard-wired network.
 
2017-05-19 04:03:47 PM  
I don't want to be a pie.
 
2017-05-19 04:04:13 PM  
Most porn is legal. Why would you get in trouble for that? As long as you weren't viewing it in the library or something.

Yes, using school resources to do illegal things is going to get you in trouble. Deal with it. Or don't use school resources to do illegal things.
 
2017-05-19 04:04:57 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.


A one month ban.
 
2017-05-19 04:05:48 PM  
You can blame over-zealous entertainment lawyers.

/and stupid people who download movies like Chick Run
 
2017-05-19 04:08:07 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-05-19 04:10:33 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.


I'm wondering if the university has been threatened by content providers over whatever the UK's version of the DMCA is in the past and have gotten trigger-happy with the bans because they're afraid of being sued.
 
2017-05-19 04:13:01 PM  

dywed88: A one month ban.


Oh hey, reading is fun-damental. Dunno how I missed that.
 
2017-05-19 04:16:24 PM  
The one and only time I did mushrooms, someone got the bright idea to put on Chicken Run.  The beady eyes freaked me out.  I still have never watched it.
 
2017-05-19 04:23:16 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: If we banned students from our Wifi for downloading porn there wouldn't be any students on Wifi.

99%+ of our internet traffic is "Streaming video"  We can break it out farther than that if we want, but for PR purposes let's just pretend it's all Netflix and Youtube.


I once got a call from my ISP for consistently going over my monthly bandwidth and they asked me how many hours of Netflix I watch per day. I was generous and allowed them to keep assuming I had a Netflix subscription.
 
2017-05-19 04:24:56 PM  

dywed88: Most porn is legal. Why would you get in trouble for that? As long as you weren't viewing it in the library or something.

Yes, using school resources to do illegal things is going to get you in trouble. Deal with it. Or don't use school resources to do illegal things.


There's usually a standard General Policy in place to the affect of "This computing resources are provided for academics purposes only, and should not be used otherwise."
Basically, if you're pulling hundreds of GB of data across the network, you better be able to justify it.
 
2017-05-19 04:40:35 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: dywed88: Most porn is legal. Why would you get in trouble for that? As long as you weren't viewing it in the library or something.

Yes, using school resources to do illegal things is going to get you in trouble. Deal with it. Or don't use school resources to do illegal things.

There's usually a standard General Policy in place to the affect of "This computing resources are provided for academics purposes only, and should not be used otherwise."
Basically, if you're pulling hundreds of GB of data across the network, you better be able to justify it.


I was oind of assuming there is on campus housing. So banning things like porn would be stupid.

Now I can see there being some questions if you  are using excessive bandwidth, but that is another matter.
 
2017-05-19 04:41:16 PM  

gingerjet: You can blame over-zealous entertainment lawyers.

/and stupid people who download movies like Chick Run


I tried to report someone to the police.

I was an at outdoor festival, and a vendor by the street was selling DVDs of, he said, "Chicken Run," which had JUST been released that weekend.

I figured either he was ripping people off OR it was real and therefore illegal.

Cops don't care, as it turns out.

/but yeah, copyright DOES mean something; how'd you like it if your employer decided to steal your work without paying you?
 
2017-05-19 04:46:12 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: There's usually a standard General Policy in place to the affect of "This computing resources are provided for academics purposes only, and should not be used otherwise."
Basically, if you're pulling hundreds of GB of data across the network, you better be able to justify it.


For the academic network, that might make sense.

For the residential network?  No.  That's your home internet if you live on campus, and that's not acceptable unless you can get Comcrap or whatever instead of the campus network.
 
2017-05-19 04:48:06 PM  

mama2tnt: gingerjet: You can blame over-zealous entertainment lawyers.

/and stupid people who download movies like Chick Run

I tried to report someone to the police.

I was an at outdoor festival, and a vendor by the street was selling DVDs of, he said, "Chicken Run," which had JUST been released that weekend.

I figured either he was ripping people off OR it was real and therefore illegal.

Cops don't care, as it turns out.

/but yeah, copyright DOES mean something; how'd you like it if your employer decided to steal your work without paying you?


Looks like somebody else needs to see this...

Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version
Youtube IeTybKL1pM4
 
2017-05-19 04:49:22 PM  
DNRTFA, but it probably got it for seeding chickenrun, not downloading it. I got a strongly worded letter from comcast a few years ago because some music studio did a spot check of things and downloaded part of a song over torrent from an IP address that was assigned to me at the time. so, I don't seed things anymore, just pay for prime and slacker for all of my music needs.
 
2017-05-19 04:54:26 PM  

mama2tnt: Cops don't care, as it turns out.


Its easier for the IP owner to send sternly written letters to whatever owns the network the pirating is going on from.  These days its mostly automated and managed by the intern.  No one cares about a street vendor hawking cheap bootlegs of a movie.

/once we got such a letter from ourselves
//had a good laugh with the legal team which ended with them ordering us to block torrents at the border without exception
 
2017-05-19 05:00:35 PM  

PirateKing: The one and only time I did mushrooms, someone got the bright idea to put on Chicken Run.  The beady eyes freaked me out.  I still have never watched it.


Oh boy did you miss out on a golden opportunity.
 
2017-05-19 05:04:56 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.


what did they do about magnet links?
 
2017-05-19 05:28:02 PM  

delciotto: KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.

what did they do about magnet links?


Our school prevented you from locating and connecting to peers to stop torrents. You could download the file or use the magnet link, but you couldn't connect to anyone to download/upload the file.

The silly thing was if you had connected to peers and then connected to the school network you could upload/download just fine. It was purely the process of locating/connecting that was stopped.

No idea how they did it but they used the justification that it used too much bandwidth and killed the school network.
 
2017-05-19 05:29:14 PM  

DarkVader: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: There's usually a standard General Policy in place to the affect of "This computing resources are provided for academics purposes only, and should not be used otherwise."
Basically, if you're pulling hundreds of GB of data across the network, you better be able to justify it.

For the academic network, that might make sense.

For the residential network?  No.  That's your home internet if you live on campus, and that's not acceptable unless you can get Comcrap or whatever instead of the campus network.


It boils down to whoever's paying for and maintaining the infrastructure, and whether the actions leave the university liable in a financial way. If the residence network traffic has to pass through university routers there could be an issue, and therefore there should be a clause in the rental agreement to reflect this fact. The university couldn't give a damn what you're downloading unless it has a financial impact; yes, it's possible to monitor individual users' habits to ensure compliance, but it's too bloody time consuming, i.e. expensive.
 
2017-05-19 05:40:58 PM  
The plural of chicken is chickens.
It should be called The Chickens Run.
 
2017-05-19 05:50:55 PM  

dywed88: delciotto: KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.

what did they do about magnet links?

Our school prevented you from locating and connecting to peers to stop torrents. You could download the file or use the magnet link, but you couldn't connect to anyone to download/upload the file.

The silly thing was if you had connected to peers and then connected to the school network you could upload/download just fine. It was purely the process of locating/connecting that was stopped.

No idea how they did it but they used the justification that it used too much bandwidth and killed the school network.


I think the newer bittorrent protocols have mostly worked around any attempts to catch traffic, short of every port but 80 being blocked (as my old workplace did), now the only people seen by the network are those who don't force HTTPS and protocol encryption. I'd imagine that's mostly noobs and the innocents actually getting legit distributions.
 
2017-05-19 05:52:58 PM  
Why are people perplexed or outraged by this.  It's pirating, it's not legal.  Don't get me wrong, I think the get a little overzealous with their prosecution of it, but she illegally downloaded a movie.  The university could technically be on the hook for the fines.

She only got banned for a month, I find this completely reasonable.
 
2017-05-19 06:17:51 PM  
How did she even pass the entrance exam if she was not smart enough to configure a vpn?
 
2017-05-19 06:23:36 PM  
UK universities almost all get their internet connectivity from JANET (Joint Academic NETwork). JANET's Acceptable Use Policy is (a) fierce (b) rigorously enforced and (c) notified to all students who use it. And a bloody good thing too, because the last thing we academics want (well, second last, before Brexit) is our connectivity clogged and screwed up by students.

Downloading pirated stuff is definitely out.
 
2017-05-19 06:31:18 PM  

dkulprit: Why are people perplexed or outraged by this.  It's pirating, it's not legal.  Don't get me wrong, I think the get a little overzealous with their prosecution of it, but she illegally downloaded a movie.  The university could technically be on the hook for the fines.

She only got banned for a month, I find this completely reasonable.


Isn't pirating uploading, not downloading? The UK may be different, of course...
 
2017-05-19 06:38:28 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: It's free on Amazon prime too.


Amazon Prime isn't free.  Neither is Netflix, or Hulu.  Just because a lot of people have access to those services doesn't mean they're free, or that everyone (especially broke ass college students, I could barely afford to eat, let alone drink semi-occasionally) can afford one, or all three.
 
2017-05-19 06:39:50 PM  

BgJonson79: dkulprit: Why are people perplexed or outraged by this.  It's pirating, it's not legal.  Don't get me wrong, I think the get a little overzealous with their prosecution of it, but she illegally downloaded a movie.  The university could technically be on the hook for the fines.

She only got banned for a month, I find this completely reasonable.

Isn't pirating uploading, not downloading? The UK may be different, of course...


Downloading is still a copyright violation. But typically rights holders only target distributors (uploaders), individual downloaders are not usually a concern.

However the primary method of downloading (torrents) results in people both uploading and downloading.
 
2017-05-19 07:11:18 PM  

dywed88: BgJonson79: dkulprit: Why are people perplexed or outraged by this.  It's pirating, it's not legal.  Don't get me wrong, I think the get a little overzealous with their prosecution of it, but she illegally downloaded a movie.  The university could technically be on the hook for the fines.

She only got banned for a month, I find this completely reasonable.

Isn't pirating uploading, not downloading? The UK may be different, of course...

Downloading is still a copyright violation. But typically rights holders only target distributors (uploaders), individual downloaders are not usually a concern.

However the primary method of downloading (torrents) results in people both uploading and downloading.


Remember when Amazon or BN had to revoke ereader access to 1984 because they didn't have permission to distribute? None of the purchasers were sued, because they didn't know. But the uploaded always knows.
 
2017-05-19 07:26:47 PM  

BgJonson79: dkulprit: Why are people perplexed or outraged by this.  It's pirating, it's not legal.  Don't get me wrong, I think the get a little overzealous with their prosecution of it, but she illegally downloaded a movie.  The university could technically be on the hook for the fines.

She only got banned for a month, I find this completely reasonable.

Isn't pirating uploading, not downloading? The UK may be different, of course...


According to Duhaime Legal Dictionary:

Piracy (Intellectual Property) Definition:
Unauthorized duplication of an matter protected by intellectual property.

So according to the Law it is either.  And while another commentor replied above they still do go after downloaders.  You just don't hear about it as much.  Studios have been known, even recently, to seed their own property on torrent sites that are actually malware and basically pull all identifying info off your machine.

It happened to my boss.

It was porn too.  Not sure why he was downloading porn when there is so much free content.

And if you're ISP is using a DNS leak it doesn't matter if you're using a VPN connection or not, they can still see what sites you're connecting to and if you then have large downloads they can tell what you're doing and can and will shut off your connection.
 
2017-05-19 09:34:36 PM  
So it's still ok to use the wi-fi to download porn?  I'm asking for a friend.
 
2017-05-19 11:21:45 PM  

dickfreckle: When the chickens got their contraption airborne, I cheered loudly and clapped. I was alone, and not high or anything. I'm a dork, OK?


Without saying which one should have come first, it's a bit redundant ;)
 
2017-05-19 11:48:09 PM  

dywed88: KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.

A one month ban.


Yes we here on Fark are down to greenlighting 'articles' that are about what happens every single day on campuses all around the US.  I guess It's Not News, It's Fark applies here.

Oh and I'm getting a kick...no really.  I used to be in University IT.  Process goes like so:  RIAA picks one kid out of the massive crowd of illegal downloaders on campus.  Their goal is to make a point and have said kid tell everyone he knows which in theory makes his/her friends more leery of downloading illegal things.  Some will actually stop.  So anyway the steps:

1. The RIAA then sends an email to the catch all help email of the university (the one required to maintain domain registration and is legally linked to the university.  University (and frankly all domain holders) is required to monitor said email.  Some weenie in IT gets the formal complaint/threat to sue the university and/or the student.  The complain will list the IP and/or MAC address of the offending computer (along with perhaps other details) as well as a partial list of songs (in the case of RIAA) illegally downloaded.
2. University sighs and executes campus's policy which has specifically been designed to address this issue (since it is so common).
3. 'Action Taken' by university tends to be a network ban on said device for X days as well as having to get a stern warning from some admin weenie in student affairs and type an email saying 'wow I'm dumb, I'll NEVER do that again.'
4. Form email sent back to complaining RIAA.
5. Repeat as necessary.  Generally a couple times per semester.
 
2017-05-20 06:02:11 AM  

dickfreckle: When the chickens got their contraption airborne, I cheered loudly and clapped. I was alone, and not high or anything. I'm a dork, OK?


Nick Parks.

I cried
 
2017-05-20 10:59:47 AM  

dywed88: delciotto: KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.

what did they do about magnet links?

Our school prevented you from locating and connecting to peers to stop torrents. You could download the file or use the magnet link, but you couldn't connect to anyone to download/upload the file.

The silly thing was if you had connected to peers and then connected to the school network you could upload/download just fine. It was purely the process of locating/connecting that was stopped.

No idea how they did it but they used the justification that it used too much bandwidth and killed the school network.


Pretty terrible IT security there. So many devices you can just block p2p traffic on the network instead.
There is legitimate p2p traffic, but I'm theres many other ways to solve that.
 
2017-05-20 11:03:41 AM  

foxyshadis: dywed88: delciotto: KingBiefWhistle: Haven't tried it here but at the previous college I worked at they immediately blocked your device the moment you clicked on a .torrent file. I did it once while grabbing GIMP and had to make a call of shame to network ops. Still, we usually just let them back on after a slap on the wrist. A legit perma-ban is a bit absurd.

what did they do about magnet links?

Our school prevented you from locating and connecting to peers to stop torrents. You could download the file or use the magnet link, but you couldn't connect to anyone to download/upload the file.

The silly thing was if you had connected to peers and then connected to the school network you could upload/download just fine. It was purely the process of locating/connecting that was stopped.

No idea how they did it but they used the justification that it used too much bandwidth and killed the school network.

I think the newer bittorrent protocols have mostly worked around any attempts to catch traffic, short of every port but 80 being blocked (as my old workplace did), now the only people seen by the network are those who don't force HTTPS and protocol encryption. I'd imagine that's mostly noobs and the innocents actually getting legit distributions.


Application inspection + ssl inspection stops anything like that in its tracks.
If it isn't standard html traffic then it gets dropped.
 
2017-05-20 01:29:10 PM  

mama2tnt: I figured either he was ripping people off OR it was real and therefore illegal.

Cops don't care, as it turns out.


You were right, but so were the cops. It's 99.9999% a civil matter, and the laws he'd have been breaking are federal ones.

I suppose you could have called the FBI. They're the ones who put that stupid warning at the beginning of every VHS tape for 20 years.
 
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