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(Yahoo)   In what researchers are calling "The Charlie Sheen effect", sales of HIV testing kits nearly doubled after the actor announced he was HIV+ , though that may have been attributable just to former partners of his getting themselves checked out   ( yahoo.com) divider line
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2017-05-19 12:07:46 PM  
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2017-05-19 03:36:05 PM  
I don't know subby, are you positive?
 
2017-05-19 06:26:49 PM  
It's a worse version of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon for the new generation
 
2017-05-19 06:32:30 PM  
The world tiger population dropped nearly 25% as the demand for their blood rose.
 
2017-05-19 06:40:37 PM  
Songify This - Winning - a Song by Charlie Sheen
Youtube 9QS0q3mGPGg
 
2017-05-19 06:42:35 PM  
I would be even more encouraged if scripts of Truvada went up too
 
2017-05-19 06:50:01 PM  
In other words, Sheen being positive is a huge boon for Big Pharma.
 
2017-05-19 07:07:25 PM  
Hmm. I want to snark, but that's actually a very good thing for awareness' sake.
A little sad it took a celebrity endorsement to inspire it, though...
 
2017-05-19 07:12:58 PM  

Somaticasual: Hmm. I want to snark, but that's actually a very good thing for awareness' sake.
A little sad it took a celebrity endorsement to inspire it, though...


the perception of HIV/AIDS has changed from "OMG HORRIBLE DEATH SENTENCE" to "mere inconvenience" in the public domain.  It still has a stigma, but definitely dampened from the 80s.

But still, I would like to see PrEP promotion go large, especially with younger folk, make it damn near free and painless to get a script for it.
 
2017-05-19 07:13:23 PM  
Did he fark Magic's Johnson?
 
2017-05-19 07:21:20 PM  
Agreed on the Truvada. Most new cases can be prevented if the stigma from testing becomes lessened. I was not high risk by any means and tested positive only after the person who knowingly infected me finally fessed up when it seemed I had caught HIV (flu and frequent vaginal infections). In 1994 at age 17 when I asked to be tested at an urban public health clinic after presenting with genital herpes, the physicians said that HIV testing was not necessary and they couldn't justify testing me.

Even in those circumstances, I did not get HIV even when I had become pregnant (by my HIV+ partner), it was during the healing phase post-abortion I likely contracted it when my partner had a herpes virus shedding. I have had 2 children since, one with only in-utero AZT/prophylactic administration to my infant, and the other with 3rd trimester therapeutic use of first generation HAART and prophylactic AZT also given to my infant. Neither are HIV+ even while I had a high viral load. Mostly because the birthing circumstances were preferential and delivery took place immediately after my water broke--which is the point when odds increase of mother to child transmission as time passes. The statistic of mother to child transmission without  treatment is 25%.

I have been in at least 4 serodiscordant relationships over 17 years, the most current one of 7 years. By medical guidance and the calculations of my undetectable viral load and no present STD's/acyclovir treatment, no condoms were used. Even with Truvada being available, my current partner does not want to take it for reasons of health side effects. I recently switched to Descovoy, the less toxic version of Truvada.

The next phase of drugs, which is like a player up for me, is ibalizumab. Despite HIV not being considered by NIH as virtually zero for transmission when under control, the people who should be getting tested are the ones who do not have a known case. Because that is when the widespread transmissions are going to occur. We have the ability now to bring down the new rate of HIV cases if we stop calling this disease a sinful and dirty problem.

/23 years HIV+
//8 years survived AIDS diagnosis
///the ibalizumab is an incredible development for me
 
2017-05-19 07:24:45 PM  

notgonnatellu: Correction: HIV *IS* considered by NIH as virtually zero for transmission when under control.


correcting that for myself
 
2017-05-19 07:28:59 PM  

Hyjamon: But still, I would like to see PrEP promotion go large, especially with younger folk, make it damn near free and painless to get a script for it.


It hasn't?  There are three billboards advertising PrEP within a mile of my house and I don't even live in a gayborhood (all three of them are advertising to women).  Most insurance will pay for it and the company will often pay the deductible in some cases.
 
2017-05-19 07:33:05 PM  
No hero tag? We should farking knight and canonize the dude right this moment. Charles of Los Angeles, patron saint of awareness and winning.
 
2017-05-19 07:35:01 PM  
The Charlie Sheen Effect is the name of my slack-key guitar Alan Parsons Project cover band.
 
2017-05-19 07:43:07 PM  
If Charlie Sheen calming the fark down, acting like a grown up, and telling people in plain language that HIV is a serious but manageable chronic illness and not a stigmatized death sentence gets more people to get tested and if needed, treated then farkin more power to him.
 
2017-05-19 07:44:53 PM  

notgonnatellu: Agreed on the Truvada. Most new cases can be prevented if the stigma from testing becomes lessened. I was not high risk by any means and tested positive only after the person who knowingly infected me finally fessed up when it seemed I had caught HIV (flu and frequent vaginal infections). In 1994 at age 17 when I asked to be tested at an urban public health clinic after presenting with genital herpes, the physicians said that HIV testing was not necessary and they couldn't justify testing me.

Even in those circumstances, I did not get HIV even when I had become pregnant (by my HIV+ partner), it was during the healing phase post-abortion I likely contracted it when my partner had a herpes virus shedding. I have had 2 children since, one with only in-utero AZT/prophylactic administration to my infant, and the other with 3rd trimester therapeutic use of first generation HAART and prophylactic AZT also given to my infant. Neither are HIV+ even while I had a high viral load. Mostly because the birthing circumstances were preferential and delivery took place immediately after my water broke--which is the point when odds increase of mother to child transmission as time passes. The statistic of mother to child transmission without  treatment is 25%.

I have been in at least 4 serodiscordant relationships over 17 years, the most current one of 7 years. By medical guidance and the calculations of my undetectable viral load and no present STD's/acyclovir treatment, no condoms were used. Even with Truvada being available, my current partner does not want to take it for reasons of health side effects. I recently switched to Descovoy, the less toxic version of Truvada.

The next phase of drugs, which is like a player up for me, is ibalizumab. Despite HIV not being considered by NIH as virtually zero for transmission when under control, the people who should be getting tested are the ones who do not have a known case. Because that is when the widespread transmissions are going to occur. We have the ability now to bring down the new rate of HIV cases if we stop calling this disease a sinful and dirty problem.

/23 years HIV+
//8 years survived AIDS diagnosis
///the ibalizumab is an incredible development for me


Considering the extensive Greater Internet farkwad Theory manifestations here on Fark, I applaud you for posting this. Thank you for doing so, and may you continue to manage your illness as well as you have.
 
2017-05-19 08:28:30 PM  
I've lost track of how many hookers I've banged. Good thing I did almost all of them back in the early days.
 
2017-05-19 08:47:46 PM  

T.rex: In other words, Sheen being positive is a huge boon for Big Pharma.


Joking aside, it's probably a huge boon for the population in general.  There's no telling how many people carry who haven't been diagnosed, and run the risk of spreading it.  The more people going to get tested voluntarily, the better.  Doubly true since, as notgonnatellu discussed, more testing means less stigma, which means even more people get tested.  Even if most of those tested come back negative, at least there's more certainty.
 
2017-05-19 08:58:46 PM  
This is a different disease than the one that makes your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body
 
2017-05-19 09:04:35 PM  

notgonnatellu: Agreed on the Truvada. Most new cases can be prevented if the stigma from testing becomes lessened. I was not high risk by any means and tested positive only after the person who knowingly infected me finally fessed up when it seemed I had caught HIV (flu and frequent vaginal infections). In 1994 at age 17 when I asked to be tested at an urban public health clinic after presenting with genital herpes, the physicians said that HIV testing was not necessary and they couldn't justify testing me.

Even in those circumstances, I did not get HIV even when I had become pregnant (by my HIV+ partner), it was during the healing phase post-abortion I likely contracted it when my partner had a herpes virus shedding. I have had 2 children since, one with only in-utero AZT/prophylactic administration to my infant, and the other with 3rd trimester therapeutic use of first generation HAART and prophylactic AZT also given to my infant. Neither are HIV+ even while I had a high viral load. Mostly because the birthing circumstances were preferential and delivery took place immediately after my water broke--which is the point when odds increase of mother to child transmission as time passes. The statistic of mother to child transmission without  treatment is 25%.

I have been in at least 4 serodiscordant relationships over 17 years, the most current one of 7 years. By medical guidance and the calculations of my undetectable viral load and no present STD's/acyclovir treatment, no condoms were used. Even with Truvada being available, my current partner does not want to take it for reasons of health side effects. I recently switched to Descovoy, the less toxic version of Truvada.

The next phase of drugs, which is like a player up for me, is ibalizumab. Despite HIV not being considered by NIH as virtually zero for transmission when under control, the people who should be getting tested are the ones who do not have a known case. Because that is when the widespread transmissions are going to ...


I'll echo the sentiments and thank you for sharing. I grew up in, what Jim Jeffries calls "The AIDS Generation" and we need more people to talk about HIV/AIDS and get rid of the stigma.

Everyone out there; be safe, be proactive, and be rational.
 
2017-05-19 09:13:24 PM  

Johnny Rockets: I've lost track of how many hookers I've banged. Good thing I did almost all of them back in the early days.


I've never been to a prostitute, but I thought they were for one's later days, when the bloom was finally off the rose, and for those with 'conditions'.

Also, if your early days were in the late 70s early 80s, how is that lucky in the context of the AIDS epidemic?
 
2017-05-19 09:18:01 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Also, if your early days were in the late 70s early 80s, how is that lucky in the context of the AIDS epidemic?


Because I was in Korea and Asia had not been touched by AIDS at that point.
 
2017-05-19 09:27:35 PM  

Johnny Rockets: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Also, if your early days were in the late 70s early 80s, how is that lucky in the context of the AIDS epidemic?

Because I was in Korea and Asia had not been touched by AIDS at that point.


That is remarkable.
 
2017-05-19 09:29:01 PM  
Who?  Never heard of him.
 
2017-05-19 09:35:46 PM  

Hyjamon: Somaticasual: Hmm. I want to snark, but that's actually a very good thing for awareness' sake.
A little sad it took a celebrity endorsement to inspire it, though...

the perception of HIV/AIDS has changed from "OMG HORRIBLE DEATH SENTENCE" to "mere inconvenience" in the public domain.  It still has a stigma, but definitely dampened from the 80s.

But still, I would like to see PrEP promotion go large, especially with younger folk, make it damn near free and painless to get a script for it.


I would like that, too.

It's also worth mentioning that incidence of other STIs is increasing, as fears about HIV decline.  PrEP shouldn't be a good enough reason to not use condoms with new adventure-friends, given all the other things we can catch from each other.
 
2017-05-19 09:40:59 PM  
Back when I was in diapers in the 80's I had a babysitter who contracted HIV while in high school. She married the dude that infected her and knocked her up. I run into her occasionally and they seem like a happy and healthy family. I'm happy for them.
 
2017-05-19 09:57:55 PM  
But do they have a test for tiger blood?
 
2017-05-19 09:59:12 PM  
I got into my Wayback machine to find this gem on my computer
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. Anyone remember this train wreck?
 
2017-05-19 10:36:31 PM  
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the Charlies of the night.


/apologies to Blake
//got beer!
///need more
 
2017-05-19 10:40:45 PM  

notgonnatellu: Agreed on the Truvada. Most new cases can be prevented if the stigma from testing becomes lessened. I was not high risk by any means and tested positive only after the person who knowingly infected me finally fessed up when it seemed I had caught HIV (flu and frequent vaginal infections). In 1994 at age 17 when I asked to be tested at an urban public health clinic after presenting with genital herpes, the physicians said that HIV testing was not necessary and they couldn't justify testing me.

Even in those circumstances, I did not get HIV even when I had become pregnant (by my HIV+ partner), it was during the healing phase post-abortion I likely contracted it when my partner had a herpes virus shedding. I have had 2 children since, one with only in-utero AZT/prophylactic administration to my infant, and the other with 3rd trimester therapeutic use of first generation HAART and prophylactic AZT also given to my infant. Neither are HIV+ even while I had a high viral load. Mostly because the birthing circumstances were preferential and delivery took place immediately after my water broke--which is the point when odds increase of mother to child transmission as time passes. The statistic of mother to child transmission without  treatment is 25%.

I have been in at least 4 serodiscordant relationships over 17 years, the most current one of 7 years. By medical guidance and the calculations of my undetectable viral load and no present STD's/acyclovir treatment, no condoms were used. Even with Truvada being available, my current partner does not want to take it for reasons of health side effects. I recently switched to Descovoy, the less toxic version of Truvada.

The next phase of drugs, which is like a player up for me, is ibalizumab. Despite HIV not being considered by NIH as virtually zero for transmission when under control, the people who should be getting tested are the ones who do not have a known case. Because that is when the widespread transmissions are going to occur. We have the ability now to bring down the new rate of HIV cases if we stop calling this disease a sinful and dirty problem.

/23 years HIV+
//8 years survived AIDS diagnosis
///the ibalizumab is an incredible development for me


Rock on! ❤
 
2017-05-19 11:33:25 PM  

gingerjet: Hyjamon: But still, I would like to see PrEP promotion go large, especially with younger folk, make it damn near free and painless to get a script for it.

It hasn't?  There are three billboards advertising PrEP within a mile of my house and I don't even live in a gayborhood (all three of them are advertising to women).  Most insurance will pay for it and the company will often pay the deductible in some cases.


notgonnatellu: Agreed on the Truvada. Most new cases can be prevented if the stigma from testing becomes lessened.


off the bat, you keep doing your thing Notgonnatellu and thanks for sharing.  Stories like yours and various others I have encountered here and other settings help "humanize/bring it home" this condition, for lack of better terms.

Undetectable partners doing something about their condition are statistically less of a threat than those that don't know there status.  Or how to properly use the word "their".

to GingerJet:  yes it is starting to grab a foothold as a lot of gay dating/hookup sites now list "On PrEP" as a status; but if you are not in the right market how would you know what Truvada actually treats based on its commercials?

I live in the Atlanta area where there is a large concern over the re-emergence of HIV infections over the past few years and I have not seen any Truvada commercials on air.  Even trying to find one to link here results in nothing I have seen before.  There is a gap over what is available and what is being made known what is available.  I swear I have seen them but you would not have a clue what they treat.

/same for Hep C
//seems we are on the cusp of drastically eliminating some very nasty diseases, just lacking the right PR effort
///people going hungry is included in the second slashie
//sharing dirty slashies can lead to SIDA
/Slashing Is Definitely Addictive
 
2017-05-20 02:05:42 AM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.


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After researching I found that HIV can lay dormant, and there are many cases of longevity.
Also form an interview,
"Johnson also wanted to point out that he has not sought any magic cures from Kenyan witch doctors or Mexican healers, which is yet another myth that surrounds him. "
 
2017-05-20 03:15:58 AM  
Do you have to pay for STD tests in the USA? We can just go to free, weekly clinics in most medium sized communities if we want to be completely anonymous. Or we just walk to a doctor's office and get tested. While there, they usually give us a bunch of antibiotics that will cure most of what could ail us within 24 hours, so that if they can't reach us by phone after, we are still cured. It's public health efficiency genius.
 
2017-05-20 08:14:02 AM  

Hyjamon: I would be even more encouraged if scripts of Truvada went up too


Some docs and standarda are even recomending perscribing Descovy and Genvoya now, low-dose/side effect ARVs for use as PreP/PEP
 
2017-05-20 09:52:08 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Do you have to pay for STD tests in the USA? We can just go to free, weekly clinics in most medium sized communities if we want to be completely anonymous. Or we just walk to a doctor's office and get tested. While there, they usually give us a bunch of antibiotics that will cure most of what could ail us within 24 hours, so that if they can't reach us by phone after, we are still cured. It's public health efficiency genius.


It really varies by community. San Francisco has plenty of places for free anonymous testing. Red state bible belt, are you kidding me, you fornicating sinner?

And free antibiotics anywhere in America? That would be beyond belief. It must be fully documented by your health insurance so they can better "serve" you.
 
2017-05-20 09:59:58 AM  

Kevin72: Bennie Crabtree: Do you have to pay for STD tests in the USA? We can just go to free, weekly clinics in most medium sized communities if we want to be completely anonymous. Or we just walk to a doctor's office and get tested. While there, they usually give us a bunch of antibiotics that will cure most of what could ail us within 24 hours, so that if they can't reach us by phone after, we are still cured. It's public health efficiency genius.

It really varies by community. San Francisco has plenty of places for free anonymous testing. Red state bible belt, are you kidding me, you fornicating sinner?

And free antibiotics anywhere in America? That would be beyond belief. It must be fully documented by your health insurance so they can better "serve" you.


also we have a very anti-antibiotic stance (especially with new MDs).  It always takes two visits to get antibiotics with my doc since the first visit is always "try some over the counter meds and if it doesn't get better in a few days, then come back"

switching doctors since mine has been taken over by a medical practice company whose mission is to rack up fees vs. effective medicine.  Had a slow nasal drip for damn near a year, doc kept suggesting switching allergy meds.  Went back home and saw my old childhood doc on a fluke since I was sick with something else; he gave me some ABX and cold gone and apparently a sinus infection I had for a year.

also, went to see my doc with flu like symptoms, so they run two flu tests that cost me $140 and wouldn't have made a difference in treating me.  They came back negative, so RX was to just rest, fluids and nyquil.  Had it come back positive then the RX would be the same: rest, fluids and nyquil.

I get CDC wants data on flu outbreaks, but they can pay for that; not me.  Flu meds only reduce the length of the illness by a day, so are they really worth it for a health middle aged person?  are they worth $200 in copays, flu tests and cost of meds?
 
2017-05-20 10:03:39 AM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.


Thanks for the awesomely misinformational conspiracy narrative. "GRIDS" was only 1979-1981 when no one had a clue what was going on. Magic Johnson in 1991 claimed to have had 10,000 sex partners, so no one was looking to prove that crap about "macho alpha straight stigma". Mother nature and the law of large numbers showed that HIV could be spread heterosexually, and Magic Johnson was man enough to go public about it.
 
2017-05-20 12:02:13 PM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: Kevin72: robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.

Thanks for the awesomely misinformational conspiracy narrative. "GRIDS" was only 1979-1981 when no one had a clue what was going on. Magic Johnson in 1991 claimed to have had 10,000 sex partners, so no one was looking to prove that crap about "macho alpha straight stigma". Mother nature and the law of large numbers showed that HIV could be spread heterosexually, and Magic Johnson was man enough to go public about it.

In 1991 Magic Johnson was 32 years old. Lets generously assume he started having sex at age 12 . He would have needed to have sex with 500 women per year every year from age 12 to age 32 to have bedded 10,000 women.

Moreover it is nigh impossible for a man to contract HIV from a woman. CDC calls it 1 in 2500 chance if having sex with an HIV positive woman. 1 in 5,000 if the man is circumcized.

You think that this is more likely true than him being compensated to take the stigma off the homosexual community.


how adorable, you assume these players only party with one girl at a time.

There are approximate 40 away games per season...add in the days at hotels between road games and we are at 120 days a year on the road at minimum, add in playoffs, training, all star weekends, etc. and now we are closer to 200.  200*3 = 600 per year.  also, men lie about how many women they slept with but Magic was talking about an order of magnitude, not that he had a detailed accounting.  So thousands of women is feasible; 10,000 may just be an upper limit.
 
2017-05-20 01:58:24 PM  

Hyjamon: robert byrd non-racist democrat: Kevin72: robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.

Thanks for the awesomely misinformational conspiracy narrative. "GRIDS" was only 1979-1981 when no one had a clue what was going on. Magic Johnson in 1991 claimed to have had 10,000 sex partners, so no one was looking to prove that crap about "macho alpha straight stigma". Mother nature and the law of large numbers showed that HIV could be spread heterosexually, and Magic Johnson was man enough to go public about it.

In 1991 Magic Johnson was 32 years old. Lets generously assume he started having sex at age 12 . He would have needed to have sex with 500 women per year every year from age 12 to age 32 to have bedded 10,000 women.

Moreover it is nigh impossible for a man to contract HIV from a woman. CDC calls it 1 in 2500 chance if having sex with an HIV positive woman. 1 in 5,000 if the man is circumcized.

You think that this is more likely true than him being compensated to take the stigma off the homosexual community.

how adorable, you assume these players only party with one girl at a time.

There are approximate 40 away games per season...add in the days at hotels between road games and we are at 120 days a year on the road at minimum, add in playoffs, training, all star weekends, etc. and now we are closer to 200.  200*3 = 600 per year.  also, men lie about how many women they slept with but Magic was talking about an order of magnitude, not that he had a detailed accounting.  So thousands of women is feasible; 10,000 may just be an upper limit.


I think you're right about "thousands". I might have imagined 10,000 since the the Robert Byrd Troll is exhuming something from 26 years ago and making some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory so that someone from the alt-right will give him fellatio or circle jerk.
 
2017-05-20 06:48:40 PM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: Hyjamon: robert byrd non-racist democrat: Kevin72: robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.

Thanks for the awesomely misinformational conspiracy narrative. "GRIDS" was only 1979-1981 when no one had a clue what was going on. Magic Johnson in 1991 claimed to have had 10,000 sex partners, so no one was looking to prove that crap about "macho alpha straight stigma". Mother nature and the law of large numbers showed that HIV could be spread heterosexually, and Magic Johnson was man enough to go public about it.

In 1991 Magic Johnson was 32 years old. Lets generously assume he started having sex at age 12 . He would have needed to have sex with 500 women per year every year from age 12 to age 32 to have bedded 10,000 women.

Moreover it is nigh impossible for a man to contract HIV from a woman. CDC calls it 1 in 2500 chance if having sex with an HIV positive woman. 1 in 5,000 if the man is circumcized.

You think that this is more likely true than him being compensated to take the stigma off the homosexual community.

how adorable, you assume these players only party with one girl at a time.

There are approximate 40 away games per season...add in the days at hotels between road games and we are at 120 days a year on the road at minimum, add in playoffs, training, all star weekends, etc. and now we are closer to 200.  200*3 = 600 per year.  also, men lie about how many women they slept with but Magic was talking about an order of magnitude, not that he had a detailed accounting.  So thousands of women is feasible; 10,000 may just be an upper limit.

You still have to take into account that he was married the whole t ...


sure we can take that into account, have we also taken into account if she has the right genes that renders some people immune? or that she got lucky?

1/2500 = 0.0004 chance of infection, let's say 100 of those women were positive (100 trials), only needs to get infected once (at least one success)

run a binomial distribution with those parameters and the chance of infection is right around 4%.  So not nearly as impossible as 1/2500 stat suggests, that is nearly a 1/20 chance.
 
2017-05-20 07:34:58 PM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: Hyjamon: robert byrd non-racist democrat: Kevin72: robert byrd non-racist democrat: CoysOdie: Did he fark Magic's Johnson?

Many in the medical circle state that magic never had HIV. At the time HIV was considered a gay disease, it was originally called GRIDS ( gay related immune deficiency syndrome ) . They wanted a macho alpha straight male that no one would suspect as gay to take the stigma off the gay population. He was generously compensated.

Thanks for the awesomely misinformational conspiracy narrative. "GRIDS" was only 1979-1981 when no one had a clue what was going on. Magic Johnson in 1991 claimed to have had 10,000 sex partners, so no one was looking to prove that crap about "macho alpha straight stigma". Mother nature and the law of large numbers showed that HIV could be spread heterosexually, and Magic Johnson was man enough to go public about it.

In 1991 Magic Johnson was 32 years old. Lets generously assume he started having sex at age 12 . He would have needed to have sex with 500 women per year every year from age 12 to age 32 to have bedded 10,000 women.

Moreover it is nigh impossible for a man to contract HIV from a woman. CDC calls it 1 in 2500 chance if having sex with an HIV positive woman. 1 in 5,000 if the man is circumcized.

You think that this is more likely true than him being compensated to take the stigma off the homosexual community.

how adorable, you assume these players only party with one girl at a time.

There are approximate 40 away games per season...add in the days at hotels between road games and we are at 120 days a year on the road at minimum, add in playoffs, training, all star weekends, etc. and now we are closer to 200.  200*3 = 600 per year.  also, men lie about how many women they slept with but Magic was talking about an order of magnitude, not that he had a detailed accounting.  So thousands of women is feasible; 10,000 may just be an upper limit.

You still have to take into account that he was married the whole t ...


Fine. You win. Magic Johnson only had sex with 3000 persons, so he couldn't have gotten HIV heterosexually, because statistics. It was all a conspiracy to get sympathy for all those sickeningly icky homogays. Now you can go jack off to your centerfold of Rush because it sure must feel joyful that after 26 years someone finally understands you believe Magic lied about having HIV just to get sympathy for gays and really heteros like you (especially you who no woman would let dork her) are superior to gays because it's a gay disease that only gays can get.
 
2017-05-21 01:09:55 AM  
robert byrd It can't be denied that Rush Limbaugh is massively same gender attracted. Big strong football players, rich and powerful politicians, especially those who trample anyone with a heart. And that Rush is massively repulsed by women "feminazis", especially the three beards who had bitter divorces, and his current cover who almost left him when he couldn't stop himself from haranguing Sandra Fluke day after day, hour after hour.

You on the other hand might be attracted to women, but God only knows why any of them would want to stay with someone who would be using theoretical statistics to try to prove a theory that makes absolutely no sense in Magic Johnson's life and motives, and God only knows what other skeletons are in your closet.
 
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