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(Onion AV Club)   How in the hell did Fast and the Furious launch one of the biggest franchises in cinematic history? IT MAKES NO SENSE   ( avclub.com) divider line
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2017-05-19 09:22:32 AM  
You keep what you kill.
 
2017-05-19 09:28:29 AM  
It was cheap as shiat to make and was profitable.

Now how it survived Tokyo Drift is a good question.
 
2017-05-19 09:56:34 AM  
I bet subby and his "Creepy" tag masturbates to the thought of another mindless, dumb, explodey Superhero movie. But the mindless, dumb, explodey car movie is BAD BAD BAD!

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2017-05-19 10:03:01 AM  
They're dumb fun movies that have an excellent cost to profit ratio.
 
2017-05-19 10:20:57 AM  
I still haven't seen the last one. Course I also haven't seen the the last XXX movie nor the last Resident Evil movie
 
2017-05-19 11:24:34 AM  

texdent: I still haven't seen the last one. Course I also haven't seen the the last XXX movie nor the last Resident Evil movie


I just saw the last Resident Evil movie yesterday.  It is exactly like the other ones.  It's meh but I like Milla Jovovich.

The only Fast and Furious movie I've seen was Tokyo Drift and i've never seen the XXX movies.

I do love the Transporter movies though.  Nothing wrong with mindless action movies, i just prefer some over others.
 
2017-05-19 11:28:58 AM  
Movie snobs are worse than beer snobs.

Listen, I like prime rib, but I also like corn dogs.  Depends what I am in the mood for.  Plus, I like fast cars.

Get Bent subtard
 
2017-05-19 11:32:18 AM  
I've only seen the first one. I'm a car guy, but I didn't really connect with it, so I have managed to ignore the rest of the series.
 
2017-05-19 11:35:56 AM  
People like things that go fast.  People like to watch attractively rugged people fighting, screwing, and doing crimes.  Next question.

/only ever seen one of them
//but for God's sake stop being an elitist about what people like
///vroom
 
2017-05-19 11:38:25 AM  
Bigger than Andy Hardy?  That's hard to believe.
 
2017-05-19 11:40:48 AM  
Dumb action movie=Chinese money

See also Transformers 5-12, Warcraft, that Matt Damon king-fu movie.
 
2017-05-19 11:45:08 AM  
Every movie doesn't have to be Oscar worthy.

Dumb movies where you can turn off your brain and have fun is the point.
 
2017-05-19 11:45:09 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I bet subby and his "Creepy" tag masturbates to the thought of another mindless, dumb, explodey Superhero movie. But the mindless, dumb, explodey car movie is BAD BAD BAD!

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This.
I can't stand the FF series, but I like my own set of bullshiat movies.
 
2017-05-19 11:45:49 AM  
The F&F movies are mindless fun, and there's nothing wrong with indulging in a little bit of that from time to time.  The only thing that I find truly offensive about that series is how it's inspired countless hotglue tuners to ruin perfectly good sports cars with shiatty body kits, vinyl decals, and fart-can mufflers.

/just try to find an A70 Supra that hasn't been utterly mutilated, let alone one that's stock or nearly so
 
2017-05-19 11:50:23 AM  
I've been asking that for years.  I mean, the first one was ok, but the rest were completely unnecessary.
 
2017-05-19 11:51:03 AM  

Bane of Broone: FirstNationalBastard: I bet subby and his "Creepy" tag masturbates to the thought of another mindless, dumb, explodey Superhero movie. But the mindless, dumb, explodey car movie is BAD BAD BAD!

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This.
I can't stand the FF series, but I like my own set of bullshiat movies.


I like really bad horror movies where I can play my own mst3000.
 
2017-05-19 11:52:56 AM  
At no point when watching the first remake of Point Break did I think that 17 years later this would be this big.

/Tokyo Drift is my guilty pleasure.
 
2017-05-19 11:55:01 AM  

Bugamo: Dumb action movie=Chinese money

See also Transformers 5-12, Warcraft, that Matt Damon king-fu movie.


You forgot all the marvel films
 
2017-05-19 12:00:34 PM  
Haven't seen any of them nor will I disparage anyone for liking them.  They are mindless action movies.

That's like questioning why Golan Globus became billionaires in the 80's.

Why?  Because they put goddamn Chuck Norris on a dirtbike with rocket launchers that's why

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2017-05-19 12:26:10 PM  
They took the Triple-X concept and removed the annoyance of a plot, and made the action sequences much cheaper by using cars instead of helicopters (and they spent most of the car-time sitting still instead of driving which makes it even cheaper).  The budget for #1 was only $38M for crying out loud!

The films are garbage, but they followed a clear path to success that others had paved before them.  Be cheap to make, and provide dumb fun entertainment value to morons, and you can print yourself a lot of money.

They also came about at the same time as the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter juggernauts - so it was a good move to provide an alternative (if you're not a kid or a nerd) summer film without having to compete directly with those titans.
 
2017-05-19 12:27:34 PM  

cefm: They took the Triple-X concept and removed the annoyance of a plot, and made the action sequences much cheaper by using cars instead of helicopters (and they spent most of the car-time sitting still instead of driving which makes it even cheaper).  The budget for #1 was only $38M for crying out loud!

The films are garbage, but they followed a clear path to success that others had paved before them.  Be cheap to make, and provide dumb fun entertainment value to morons, and you can print yourself a lot of money.

They also came about at the same time as the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter juggernauts - so it was a good move to provide an alternative (if you're not a kid or a nerd) summer film without having to compete directly with those titans.


They make money, so they keep making them.
 
2017-05-19 12:34:44 PM  
Mostly all the gay sex.
 
2017-05-19 12:45:56 PM  

Shazam999: Mostly all the gay sex.


So the WWE formula?
 
2017-05-19 12:50:30 PM  
Ran across an article on here recently (not sure if it was submitted or linked in thread...) that was a really interesting look into why these films are a success.  They're written more like D&D campaigns rather than regular Hollywood fluff.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-four-types-of-vin-diesel-mov​i​es/

There's a lot of other interesting stuff in there too, definitely worth the read.
 
2017-05-19 01:02:17 PM  

Bargoyle: Ran across an article on here recently (not sure if it was submitted or linked in thread...) that was a really interesting look into why these films are a success.  They're written more like D&D campaigns rather than regular Hollywood fluff.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-four-types-of-vin-diesel-movi​es/

There's a lot of other interesting stuff in there too, definitely worth the read.


That was a great read.  Thanks!
 
2017-05-19 01:04:32 PM  
Bang Bang! Explosions! Vroom! Vroom! Hot folks for men and women! Funny one-liners.

And that's a wrap.
 
2017-05-19 01:25:57 PM  
For the same reason that their are 7 Rocky movies and a new one in production. They are cheap to make and bring it a fair amount of money.
 
2017-05-19 01:27:52 PM  

scottydoesntknow: It was cheap as shiat to make and was profitable.

Now how it survived Tokyo Drift is a good question.


You misspelled 2 Fast 2 Furious.
 
2017-05-19 01:29:46 PM  

BalugaJoe: You keep what you kill.


This is a critically insightful joke, and more true than most probably realize.

Vin Diesel got control of the rights for the Riddick franchise basically by doing the 15 second cameo in the otherwise ill-fated Tokyo Drift episode of the F/F films.  Between the continuity that provided, and his continued involvement, they've taken what was originally a fairly cynical cash-in on SoCal car culture and built it into a viable action-movie franchise.  Is it Shakespeare?  No.  But as other's have said, they'll stop making them as soon as they stop making money on them.
 
2017-05-19 01:31:12 PM  

cefm: They took the Triple-X concept and removed the annoyance of a plot, and made the action sequences much cheaper by using cars instead of helicopters (and they spent most of the car-time sitting still instead of driving which makes it even cheaper).  The budget for #1 was only $38M for crying out loud!


The Fast and the Furious predates xXx by a year ... same star, same director.  Both Vin Diesel, and Rob Cohen talked about how much they loved working together at the time, and how they were both going to be back for the sequels to both films.  In the end, neither one of them was involved in either sequel.  They haven't worked together since xXx.  I think it would be really interesting to know what exactly happened to their great working relationship.
 
2017-05-19 01:52:37 PM  
There's a reason Roger Corman never lost money, which is that he made movies by first working out who went to movies a lot, what they liked, and then making cheap movies that fed that demand.

Lots of movies aren't made like that. They come from people trying to make art and convincing people, often rubes who are star struck, to put money into a project. I don't think Martin Scorsese has ever made money, when you add up his profits and losses. The guy's a genius, but if you just want to make money, you'd go elsewhere. Fact is, very few people pay money to go to the movies to see a movie about Jesuit priests going to Japan or the early life of the Dalai Lama.
 
2017-05-19 01:55:31 PM  

farkeruk: There's a reason Roger Corman never lost money, which is that he made movies by first working out who went to movies a lot, what they liked, and then making cheap movies that fed that demand.

Lots of movies aren't made like that. They come from people trying to make art and convincing people, often rubes who are star struck, to put money into a project. I don't think Martin Scorsese has ever made money, when you add up his profits and losses. The guy's a genius, but if you just want to make money, you'd go elsewhere. Fact is, very few people pay money to go to the movies to see a movie about Jesuit priests going to Japan or the early life of the Dalai Lama.


But if the Dalai Lama drove a biatchin' car and could shoot peace bolts out of his ass, that movie would make billions.
 
2017-05-19 01:56:14 PM  
Going to a theater during a F&F debut was always fun.

Strutting, Posturing Stereotypes abound.
 
2017-05-19 01:57:08 PM  

farkeruk: I don't think Martin Scorsese has ever made money, when you add up his profits and losses.


I'd be shocked if that were true. He doesn't make terribly expensive films, for the most part.
 
2017-05-19 02:14:45 PM  
Because they are entertaining?
 
2017-05-19 03:03:10 PM  
Because 65% people have the intellect of an eighth grader or lower?
 
2017-05-19 03:17:14 PM  

This text is now purple: farkeruk: I don't think Martin Scorsese has ever made money, when you add up his profits and losses.

I'd be shocked if that were true. He doesn't make terribly expensive films, for the most part.


Thanks to 'Hollywood Math', no movie really ever makes money, or at least it looks that way on paper.
 
2017-05-19 03:18:22 PM  
to echo everyone else in the thread...

they promise simple things and simply deliver those things.  No filler, no sub plots, no character development.no twists..everything is straight forward.

stunts, one-liners, easy to follow, clearly defined villains.

You want pizza, here is pizza; not a deconstructed pizza with cheese slices floating in a bowl of tomato soup with a biscuit on the side.
 
2017-05-19 03:44:32 PM  

Bugamo: Dumb action movie=Chinese money

See also Transformers 5-12, Warcraft, that Matt Damon king-fu movie.


Hey I thought Great Wall was ok! They used real Chinese mythology and the visuals were gorgeous. The lamest part was the queen trope.

\still not as good as 13th warrior though
\\wait that had a queen too. Damnit
 
2017-05-19 03:55:49 PM  

idrow: I've been asking that for years.  I mean, the first one was ok, but the rest were completely unnecessary.


You still saw them even though they were "unnecessary."

That pretty much answers the question posed in the headline.
 
2017-05-19 03:57:40 PM  

Hyjamon: they promise simple things and simply deliver those things. No filler, no sub plots, no character development.no twists..everything is straight forward.

stunts, one-liners, easy to follow, clearly defined villains.


That...is not true. There has been character development through individual films as well as throughout the films. There is definite plots, usually involving grabbing the McGuffin. Villains are rather muddy. Their team now includes several of their former villains.

They are, mostly, sturdily constructed movies that don't take themselves too seriously.
You are right about promises and delivery of simple things: good looking movies with varied action scenes.

/have seen all in the theaters
//7 was better than 6
///2F2F and TD were garbage
 
2017-05-19 04:09:38 PM  

Uncle Pooky: idrow: I've been asking that for years.  I mean, the first one was ok, but the rest were completely unnecessary.

You still saw them even though they were "unnecessary."

That pretty much answers the question posed in the headline.


I saw the trailer, realized it was basically the same thing and was just being released to try and capitalize off the first (like so many sequels).  That obviously worked for them, but I had no desire to see another one.
 
2017-05-19 04:22:10 PM  
"How in the hell did Fast and the Furious launch one of the biggest franchises in cinematic history? IT MAKES NO SENSE"

Because NASCAR.

If people can find cars circling a racetrack for hours on end entertaining then people enjoying those movies isn't much of a stretch.
 
2017-05-19 04:27:25 PM  
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Get a load of Subby over there...
 
2017-05-19 05:01:31 PM  
It's fun?  It's just a mindless action movie and people like mindless action movies.  Steven Segal is a terrible actor and yet Under Siege made 156 million dollars in 1992.

It also deserves credit for having a diverse casts for a major franchise, in fact you could argue it has the most diverse cast.
 
2017-05-19 06:47:26 PM  

Witty_Retort: Hyjamon: they promise simple things and simply deliver those things. No filler, no sub plots, no character development.no twists..everything is straight forward.

stunts, one-liners, easy to follow, clearly defined villains.

That...is not true. There has been character development through individual films as well as throughout the films. There is definite plots, usually involving grabbing the McGuffin. Villains are rather muddy. Their team now includes several of their former villains.

They are, mostly, sturdily constructed movies that don't take themselves too seriously.
You are right about promises and delivery of simple things: good looking movies with varied action scenes.

/have seen all in the theaters
//7 was better than 6
///2F2F and TD were garbage


Watch Tokyo Drift after watching Han in 4 5 and 6, and build your Han in 3 head canon around appearances in 4 5 and 6.

They're movies that know what they are, and they are so absolutely ludicrous that I always enjoy just sitting back and watching one just being incredulous.  Actual quote from me watching 8 "Are they just flat out hunt for red octobering this??!!?"
 
2017-05-19 11:04:08 PM  
Boobs, hot cars, crazy stunts?
 
2017-05-20 08:47:04 AM  

Bane of Broone: FirstNationalBastard: I bet subby and his "Creepy" tag masturbates to the thought of another mindless, dumb, explodey Superhero movie. But the mindless, dumb, explodey car movie is BAD BAD BAD!

[media.giphy.com image 186x266]

This.
I can't stand the FF series, but I like my own set of bullshiat movies.


If it's not too much trouble, could you kindly stop liking that which I do not? But only if you find it agreeable...
 
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