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(PennLive)   90 years ago on Saturday, Charles Lindbergh flew solo across the Atlantic Ocean. Does anybody remember it from a past life? Do you consider it the greatest accomplishment in aviation? Would you like to try it yourself?   ( pennlive.com) divider line
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2017-05-19 08:18:51 AM  
I could sit for 33 1/2 hours and don't have any infant children. Sign me up.
 
2017-05-19 08:19:31 AM  
Also, Chuck Yeager has the greatest achievements in aviation (so far).
 
2017-05-19 09:09:54 AM  
On my recent flight to Anchorage, I snagged a first-class upgrade for the initial leg and finished three jack and cokes before we'd even left the runway. Then, when the (very friendly) flight attendant learned I was not in first class for the remaining leg of the flight, she pressed into my hands a small bag containing four more bottles ("It's all that's left of the jack," she said). She warned me explicitly to not let the flight attendants on the next flight see them, and they did not.

It may not be the "greatest" accomplishment in aviation, but it's up there. It's so very up there.
 
2017-05-19 09:30:15 AM  
Fun Fact:  My adoption proceeding was held in the same room where the Lindbergh baby trials were held in the Flemington, NJ courthouse.

Years later I tried a HS mock trial case there, too.
 
2017-05-19 12:06:28 PM  
CSB:  My grandma got detained and questioned as a suspect in the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. :-|  4'11" German lady with thick accent?  IN THE SQUAD CAR YOU GO, ANNA HAUPTMANN
 
2017-05-19 12:40:06 PM  
Lindbergh?  The greatest achievement in aviation?  Yeah, when pigs fly.
 
2017-05-19 01:22:24 PM  
I read a massive Lindbergh biography and until then i didn't know he flew fighters in the WWII Pacific theater.  One thing I remember is he always came back with more gas than anyone else.  When they asked why that was he said something to the effect of "These are military motors and designed to be abused.  So abuse them!"  He ran them far leaner than SOP.
 
2017-05-19 01:31:14 PM  
The original "America Boobieser boy, who was only one brush moustache away from being a Nazi?
 
2017-05-19 01:35:40 PM  
I remember the airplane from about a year ago:

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They actually got special permission to examine the original in the Smithsonian, and the only difference between that replica and the original is that it has a smaller gas tank because it's not intended to fly across the Atlantic.  Everything else, including the instruments and engine, are identical to the original.
 
2017-05-19 01:38:28 PM  
Another of the instrument panel:

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And the "useless" periscope sticking out the side of the fuselage:

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2017-05-19 01:38:47 PM  
What about that time Helen Keller flew over the Pacific Ocean searching for Anne Frank? That was quite an achievement...
 
2017-05-19 01:50:59 PM  
My grandma was the flight attendant on Lindberg's trip.
History doesn't remember her though.
Chuck did some coke off her ass to keep going.

/ History forgot that one too.
 
2017-05-19 01:51:37 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I could sit for 33 1/2 hours and don't have any infant children. Sign me up.


Difficulty:  You actually have to be awake for the 24 hours before the flight.  So you're looking at almost 60 hours awake.
 
2017-05-19 02:12:16 PM  
No subby, my arms would get tired.
 
2017-05-19 02:14:38 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The original "America Boobieser boy, who was only one brush moustache away from being a Nazi?


I love getting filter pwned........
 
2017-05-19 02:32:03 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: I read a massive Lindbergh biography and until then i didn't know he flew fighters in the WWII Pacific theater.  One thing I remember is he always came back with more gas than anyone else.  When they asked why that was he said something to the effect of "These are military motors and designed to be abused.  So abuse them!"  He ran them far leaner than SOP.


You have to remember that in peacetime, a pilot could get in trouble for intentionally doing something that could damage an engine (at least, if they got caught).  And those who were peacetime pilots ended up being the flight instructors of the new guys headed out to combat, so it's self-perpetuating.  Militaries run on tradition.

That was kind of common back near the beginning of US involvement in WWII, and it wasn't just pilots.  Submarine commanders were more timid and not aggressive enough, for a couple of different reasons:  They tended to be older and married at the beginning of the war and thus had more to lose, but another reason is because losing your ship in the peacetime Navy was tantamount to ending your career.  It's the mindset they had all through their career prior to the start of the war, and it was a hard habit to break.  Lockwood et al had to fire a lot of submarine commanders and promote newer, younger, more aggressive officers to command.

Lindbergh had the advantage that he wasn't actually in the military, but he was a civilian consultant for the aircraft manufacturers, and so if he said "Lean the fark out of the engines", that made it OK.   Some random military pilot or engine mechanic saying the same thing would possibly be putting their ass on the line, and in any case probably wouldn't have been listened to anyway.

The transition from a peacetime military to a wartime military was tough for a lot of people, material, equipment, and doctrine.
 
2017-05-19 07:23:17 PM  

gameshowhost: CSB:  My grandma got detained and questioned as a suspect in the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. :-|  4'11" German lady with thick accent?  IN THE SQUAD CAR YOU GO, ANNA HAUPTMANN


I once drank milk that had Lindberghs' baby picture on the carton.
 
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