"Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis."
Meet the Press, April 15, 2000

I think we all agree, the past is over. This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning? Will the highways of the Internet become more few? How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me. I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity. I know that the human being and the fish can coexist. Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanize society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!

Let's face it, the American army is racist to the core, if those were white reporters, they wouldn't have been tortured.

End of story.

"It's clearly a budget.
It's got a lot of numbers in it."
Reuters, May 5, 2000

Huff a few solvents, and she gets all saucy.

"you are asking for someone to start posting little pictures with dubya's cock-ups - given they are bigger, funnier and more frequent than pretty much anyone else, it'll be fun to watch your reaction"

I still think Dan Quayle comes out ahead. Bush's mistakes are almost all grammar mistakes, pronunciation mistakes, etc. But can you find any Bush quote that tops, on basis of sheer unintelligibility or wanton incorrectness:

"I was known as the chief grave robber of my state"

"Hawaii is a unique state. It is a small state. It is a state that is by itself. It is a -- it is different than the other 49 states. Well, all states are different, but it's got a particularly unique situation"

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."

"I love California; I practically grew up in Phoenix."

or, my favorite:

"Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."

2004-05-18 06:00:16 PM DougTanner

Let's face it, the American army is racist to the core, if those were white reporters, they wouldn't have been tortured.

End of story.

Let's face it, this is perhaps the single, most simple minded comment posted on this thread yet. The vast majority of our soldiers are honorable, unlike you!

I don't think Bush's mistakes can be written off as mere grammar errors. Listen to what he says. It makes pretty much no sense what-so-ever. I think that is what is sounds like in his head.

Hiller: "Can you name the general who is in charge of Pakistan?

Bush: The new Pakistani general, hes just been elected-not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think thats good news for the sub-continent.

Hiller: "Can you name him?"

Bush: "General. I can name the general. General."

Hiller: "Can you name the prime minister of India?"

Bush: "The new prime minister of India is... no."

PapalMonkey

You're shiatting me. Do you have a link to that? Christ.

Is it wrong of me to come into these flame thread looking for pictures of cute animals?

George Bush is a funny man!

>UncleBuck4U
>2004-05-18 06:00:16 PM DougTanner
>
>>Let's face it, the American army is racist to the core,
>>if those were white reporters, they wouldn't have been
>>tortured.
>>
>>End of story.
>
>Let's face it, this is perhaps the single, most simple
>minded comment posted on this thread yet. The vast
>majority of our soldiers are honorable, unlike you!

Honorable? naw, just a bunch of dumb kids in a situation they didn't want or make trying to get back home.

Or did you mean Honarable?

2004-05-18 04:54:31 PM mr bunkers


Quagmire.

/How come there is no post today on Sonia Gandhi turning down the premiership of India?

I tried about 3 hours ago, and NOTHING.


And 2004-05-18 05:10:19 PM KyngNothing


Note, I didn't actually vote in the primaries for Bush, by the time my primary came along it was all over (great system, eh?), but I did vote for the "fiscally responsible, no nation building, keep the govt out of your lives" bush...

Haaa haaha haah a haah


SUCKER!

Smallberries

I know several 'dumb kids' serving in Iraq, including my son. Yes they are honorable men. Unfortunately they are pawns of dis-honorable men and the dis-honorable Americans who support them.

Not wrong at all. Squirrelfishing.

Bonzo_1116

And 2004-05-18 05:10:19 PM KyngNothing


Note, I didn't actually vote in the primaries for Bush, by the time my primary came along it was all over (great system, eh?), but I did vote for the "fiscally responsible, no nation building, keep the govt out of your lives" bush...

Haaa haaha haah a haah


SUCKER!

Yeah, thanks, as if my fiancee reminding me every time we talk politics isn't enough...

Oh well, at least I'm aware enough to wake up and smell the difference...

/conservative for ABB

Sorry,
Can't be Hororable and be a pawn. "He was an honorable pawn". Nope, doesn't work.

If Powell had been honorable he would have resigned before Bush went to war. If your kid was honorable he would have done ANYTHING, other than being a pawn.

Just following orders don't cut it.

I have not spoken out because I was afraid, but soldiers made fun of me while I was naked too! It was the most humiliating and horrible thing EVAR! And all you have to go on is my say so, but hey, since these allegations are coming out of the woodwork, might as well get me a piece of the pie too, right? I mean, since we already think.. I mean know.. that they... aw hell.

"If Powell had been honorable he would have resigned before Bush went to war."

[The following assumes Powell was against the war. If not, replace his name with someone else. For that matter, the question isn't really even about the war, just any circumstance in which you have some say but not enough to stop something you oppose.]

I have a question. What does one do if in the situation Powell was in, and countless other government officials, before the war? You're opposed to the war, but you hold a position that gives you some influence.

Do you resign in a show of protest, only to be replaced by someone who would be more amenable to Bush's plans? Or do you stick around, hoping to control things as best you can. The war's gonna happen whether you resign or not, so maybe you can help steer it in the right direction.

I'm not sure which would be the "proper" course of action...

I think the "proper" course was for Powell to resign and go public. Unfortunately, he as a soldier, and not a leader.

"since these allegations are coming out of the woodwork, might as well get me a piece of the pie too, right? I mean, since we already think.. I mean know.. that they... aw hell."

RTFA. They complained about it before anyone knew about Abu Ghraib. It's not an opportunistic lie at least.

"I think the "proper" course was for Powell to resign and go public."

But go public with what? His opinion that we shouldn't attack? I doubt he had any evidence that Saddam *didn't* have weapons or anything...

Go public with it was a bad idea.
Go public with they didn't know what to do after the war.
Go public with they didn't have strong WMD intel.
Go public with it wasn't connected to 9-11.

How many do you want?

The Symbol

Maybe reporters are just asking for it.

If they'd stop wearing all that makeup and tight clothing...

"Go public with it was a bad idea."

Powell probably wouldn't have changed minds with his resignation.

"Go public with they didn't know what to do after the war."

Okay, that would have been good.

"Go public with they didn't have strong WMD intel.
Go public with it wasn't connected to 9-11."

These were both "common knowledge", or at least should have been. Now, maybe Powell's resignation would have spurred some news outlets to actually report this (the oh-so-liberal media almost completely ignored the lack of an Iraq--al Qaeda connection and just reported what the pres said), but I doubt it.


No, I think Powell should have stuck around and tried to manage the storm, because it was likely coming no matter what he did. Though, who knows, maybe he would have spurred other resignations, etc.

Of course, all this assumes that Powell was actually honestly against the war and didn't fall into believing the propaganda machine upstairs.

Innismir

Ok, that pic is played out.

Time to hunt down another one.

culbeda
Yeah, I know, but everyone else was doing it. *g*

*keeps it in the web server directory, just in case*

Smallberries

If your kid was honorable he would have done ANYTHING, other than being a pawn.


So your suggesting a stay at Leavenworth is more honorable than following orders?

It would make for an interesting military if following orders was OPTIONAL.

culbeda

No its not, the revolution has only started! VIVA LA PALM TREE!

Well I find anyone who joined the military AFTER Persian Gulf War I and didn't expect to go to battle a little dim. (Just a tad).

And I am exactly suggesting that a stay at Leavenworth could be more honorable that following orders.

Doing what everyone tells you to do, under threat of prison, or death, is NOT honorable. It may be smart, or a good idea, or even the right thing to do, but honor has nothing to do with it.

To earn the tag Honorable you have to EARN it, going along to get a long, or whatever, don't cut it.

The kids in Iraq may be poor, pathetic, stupid, fools, but that does not make them honorable.

So I agree, your kid was suckered, but he was suckered, not honorably suckered.

Anyone dumb enough to join the United States military deserves whatever they get. If they base their decisions on standard American media then they are repulsively ignorant and really don't deserve any pity when they get blown apart by people who don't want a swarm of sadistic idiots trying to control them. This situation will turn out to be amusingly beautiful.

dyn0mike

Anyone dumb enough to join the United States military deserves whatever they get. If they base their decisions on standard American media then they are repulsively ignorant and really don't deserve any pity when they get blown apart by people who don't want a swarm of sadistic idiots trying to control them. This situation will turn out to be amusingly beautiful.

This wins my award for being the single most ignorant statement posted on Fark. Think about what that may encompass.

/Lost interest in political flame wars

the_coach5040
Think about what it may encompass? I already have. A statement that it wins your award for being the single most ignorant statement on fark comes as a compliment to me. Thank you for the recognition.

By the way, if it's an award shouldn't there be something such as a trophy to signify my winning? If that's the case, then where is that award? If you don't have one, which I'll have to assume you don't, I'll take Americans coming home in coffins in place of that.

Anyone who biatches about how George Bush talks, obviously haven't read a full Fark forum.

http://www.pimp.id.au/berg/

Has this been posted before? If so, is this true?

from the nick burge conspiracy thing-

"This entire story is a fraud, it was a deliberate killing and a deliberate later beheading for show to further Bush's agenda.

Sure, I'll beleive it. Why not?

is the html acting strange for anyone else?

I doubt its a bush & co plot, but the rest of it seems pretty accurate. that is, the inconsistancys and such.

If they pan out, then someone has some explaining to do.

Antimatter
Has this been posted before? If so, is this true?

I think it's true, because of the orange jumpsuit.

The US Government obviously went to a lot of trouble to stage this whole thing, but didn't notice until after they released it that they left the orange jumpsuit on the 'victim'.

I'm totally sure somebody got fired for that.

So when did the US military get so 'mo? All these stories of ass abuse. What happened to the old fashioned pistol whipping? Seriously, wtf?