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(NPR)   "We believe climate change is real", says the hippie-dippie, bleedin' heart, granola-crunchin', environazi CEO of Shell Oil Corporation   ( npr.org) divider line
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2017-05-18 09:41:42 PM  
Looks like China got to him!
 
2017-05-18 10:33:12 PM  
And they intend to make a profit off it.
 
2017-05-18 11:53:20 PM  
Ehh, this is one of those "tobacco industry knew it was dealing in death" memos are waiting in the wings. First company to admit they were doing bad gets to claim the noble attitude.
 
2017-05-19 12:39:10 AM  
Too late, asshole!
 
2017-05-19 12:40:22 AM  
We believe that climate change is real,...and we blame it on the Exxon Valdez disaster.

/Shareholder profits increase $0.50 per share.
 
2017-05-19 12:40:29 AM  
Shell is based in the Netherlands, and the Netherlands should be underwater already, so I can see their CEO being concerned about sea level rise.
 
2017-05-19 12:41:13 AM  
In Bizarro World...
 
2017-05-19 12:45:08 AM  

wildcardjack: Ehh, this is one of those "tobacco industry knew it was dealing in death" memos are waiting in the wings. First company to admit they were doing bad gets to claim the noble attitude.


Every major oil company admits it. And its a bit different than the tobacco companies because there is a need for energy. Not that the oil companies are innocent, but it is a lot more complicated than what went on in tobacco.
This ceo was being relatively honest. He wants shell to continue to make money off energy, even as the sources change. And the way for that to happen is consistent federal policies which allow Shell to work with the system instead of constantly having to change plans when the president changes.
 
2017-05-19 12:48:55 AM  
My macro econ professor in community college was an eccentric weirdo who rocked jean shorts, but he always repeated that the oil companies are not in the oil business but rather the energy business and would eventually switch to alternative energy as soon as it suited their interests. All else being equal or somesuch, obvs.
 
2017-05-19 12:49:14 AM  
 Climate Scientology™
 
2017-05-19 12:51:36 AM  
They can believe its real and take a decided stance not to change how they conduct business though.  No one lives past 2127!
 
2017-05-19 12:52:19 AM  
They like the current deal because they sell natural gas and don't sell coal.

/That is all
 
2017-05-19 12:52:47 AM  

berylman: They can believe its real and take a decided stance not to change how they conduct business though.  No one lives past 2127!


Jawhol!
 
2017-05-19 12:54:17 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Shell is based in the Netherlands, and the Netherlands should be underwater already, so I can see their CEO being concerned about sea level rise.


Before or after the reclaimed all that land from the sea?
 
2017-05-19 12:55:44 AM  
C'mon, Donald. Step out of the closet and admit that you are a queen of the stone age.

/NTTIAWWT
 
2017-05-19 12:59:25 AM  
If it smells fishy, its a fish.

You ever wonder how smells fishy came to mean I dont believe you or I have doubts.  Was it a "virgin" who smelled fishy on her wedding night?
 
2017-05-19 01:00:38 AM  

FarkQued: If it smells fishy, its a fish.

You ever wonder how smells fishy came to mean I dont believe you or I have doubts.  Was it a "virgin" who smelled fishy on her wedding night?


You know how many Spanish guys I know named Hey Zeus, right?
 
2017-05-19 01:06:34 AM  
FFS
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2017-05-19 01:09:15 AM  
I'm sure Trump will listen to Ben van Beurden the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell.

/sarcasm
 
2017-05-19 01:12:40 AM  

Krieghund: I'm sure Trump will listen to Ben van Beurden the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell.

/sarcasm


He doesn't listen to McVagina-Trumpum, now, but the Dutch should get precedence .
 
2017-05-19 01:16:42 AM  

wildcardjack: Ehh, this is one of those "tobacco industry knew it was dealing in death" memos are waiting in the wings. First company to admit they were doing bad gets to claim the noble attitude.


eh, tobacco adds nothing to society the same can't be said for fossil fuels. There is no part of our society that is not in some way reliant on it. I'm all for using a whole hell of a lot less and can't wait until hasn't powered cars are considered an "alternative fuel" but oil makes our world function from the ground up.


csb/ I worked offshore for 8 years as a ROV tech, had a client once who wasn't fundie to the max, overheard him in the galley talking about how the earth was 6k years old bla bla bla.
Later in the control room we were just having idle chat about how oil deposits form and he pipes in "see hundreds of millions of years ago....." and then he caught himself.

Science does not care what you think.
 
2017-05-19 02:11:47 AM  
See, even oil companies get it. They just want somebody else to fix the problems they've caused and are continuing to cause.

YOU'RE A PART OF THE PROBLEM, MORONS.

Damn.
 
2017-05-19 02:14:50 AM  

wildcardjack: Ehh, this is one of those "tobacco industry knew it was dealing in death" memos are waiting in the wings. First company to admit they were doing bad gets to claim the noble attitude.


We already have it. They knew about 40 years ago that anthropogenic global warming was real.
 
2017-05-19 03:18:39 AM  
They may believe it, but they're not going to let that stop them from taking in cash hand over fist at the environment' s detriment.
 
2017-05-19 04:56:42 AM  

FarkQued: If it smells fishy, its a fish.

You ever wonder how smells fishy came to mean I dont believe you or I have doubts.  Was it a "virgin" who smelled fishy on her wedding night?


I took this for a Brantgoose post.
 
2017-05-19 05:52:35 AM  
There are people who think the climate doesn't change over time?
 
2017-05-19 07:06:49 AM  
The battle has moved: The question is no longer "Is there climate change?" The question is whether it's anthropogenic (man-made).

It's a long way between admitting there's climate change and admitting it's caused by humanity releasing previously-sequestered CO2 into the air via fossil fuels.
 
2017-05-19 07:26:39 AM  
Some believe "it's all magic"
 
2017-05-19 07:31:06 AM  

JungleBoogie: The battle has moved: The question is no longer "Is there climate change?" The question is whether it's anthropogenic (man-made).

It's a long way between admitting there's climate change and admitting it's caused by humanity releasing previously-sequestered CO2 into the air via fossil fuels.


From most of the discussions I've witnessed, we've even settled the anthropogenic argument as well.  Pretty much everyone agrees climate is changing, and we are causing it.

The latest battle is weather or not we should be paying to fix it, or if we need to do anything about it anyway.

Last discussion I was in on fark, some numb-nut was actually trying to argue that the human-caused rapid rise in global temperature might actually be GOOD for the earth.  In another one, they were fine with 'other' people fixing the environment, as long as it didn't mean any inconvenience or additional cost to them.

It's the ultimate moving-goalpost discussion.

Professor Farnsworth debates Creaturism
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2017-05-19 07:48:28 AM  
If they gotta play by the rules, they want to be sure everyone else does too.
 
2017-05-19 07:55:18 AM  
Climate change is real, but that doesn't mean that they're not helping it along at an accelerated pace.
 
2017-05-19 08:07:09 AM  
Not surprised to see this. Their biofuels and nat gas positions are nothing to sniff at.
They see what's coming. They know; they're preparing for it.
 
2017-05-19 08:10:07 AM  
Shell sounds concerned.

Classic two faced approach.  Shell is out there preaching to the choir on the progressive news circuit, saying exactly what they want to hear.  Meanwhile, they hire legions of lobbyists and contribute to industry groups that work against regulations on fossil fuels.

You might even call this, *puts on sunglasses*, a shell game.

/the veal, try it.
 
2017-05-19 08:23:04 AM  
Shell is a business not a boogie man.
They give us something we want at a price we are willing to pay.
Energy.
As soon as they can make a profit off another source, they will.
If you want to do your part, unplug, recycle all your belongings, move into a cave and start hunting and gathering.
We cant keep yelling at the crack dealer for selling us crack when we keep buying it.
 
2017-05-19 08:23:08 AM  
This has been on ExxonMobile's site for a while.  The only people pretending that climate change isn't real are politicians.
 
2017-05-19 08:42:53 AM  
Seriously, if She'll and Exxon are making money, thru don't really care of it's from dinosaurs, photons, or fusion. But they do need a framework within which to live or they will push back. It's in our best interest for them to make the transition smoothly.
 
2017-05-19 08:58:41 AM  
NPR - a fair and balanced "news" organization, based in Washington, D.C., where 90% of voters are left wing nutters.  Funded by taxpayers and other left wing nutjobs.  Where they have actual spots talking about farking BIRDS. Interviewing an oil company.  What do you think that oil company will say?  This is hilarious.
 
2017-05-19 09:19:49 AM  

KrispykremeMcDonalds: NPR - a fair and balanced "news" organization, based in Washington, D.C., where 90% of voters are left wing nutters.


NewsCorp, which owns Fox, is based in New York City.


Funded by taxpayers and other left wing nutjobs.

So are you saying that right wingers as a whole are tax evaders or that they're all on welfare and so don't pay taxes?


Where they have actual spots talking about farking BIRDS. Interviewing an oil company.  What do you think that oil company will say?  This is hilarious.

I know the Trump strategy is to just lie all the time and tell each audience what they want to hear, and that stupid Trumpsters lap it up, but if you actually heard the NPR interview, you'd know that they called him on that very issue and weren't buying his PR shtick just on the surface.
 
2017-05-19 09:35:46 AM  
Corporate CEO says "we need to be part of that solution "  $$$$  SURE!
 
2017-05-19 09:37:28 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Shell is based in the Netherlands, and the Netherlands should be underwater already, so I can see their CEO being concerned about sea level rise.


^^^this^^^  Also, how can you respect a group that clomps around in wooden shoes.
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2017-05-19 09:38:33 AM  

alex10294: They like the current deal because they sell natural gas and don't sell coal.

/That is all


Um, wat?

Gas isn't any different from coal when you're talking about climate change.  Less of the other pollutants, just as much CO2.  It's actually worse when we're talking about production, coal isn't a climate change gas, methane is.
 
2017-05-19 10:05:54 AM  
No reasonable and informed person doubts that the climate is constantly in flux.  The issue is over a) how much is due to humans and b) if a is significant, what to do about it.

I think we will squabble over this until WWIII breaks out.  Once billions are killed off, the issue will largely resolve itself.
 
2017-05-19 10:10:38 AM  

DarkVader: alex10294: They like the current deal because they sell natural gas and don't sell coal.

/That is all

Um, wat?

Gas isn't any different from coal when you're talking about climate change.  Less of the other pollutants, just as much CO2.  It's actually worse when we're talking about production, coal isn't a climate change gas, methane is.


"Natural gas is a fossil fuel, though the global warming emissions from its combustion are much lower than those from coal or oil. Natural gas emits 50 to 60 percent less carbon dioxide (CO2) when combusted in a new, efficient natural gas power plant compared with emissions from a typical new coal plant [1]."  From the union of concerned scientists.  Shell sells gas. We ended up reducing our carbon footprint significantly through cheap gas from fracking.
 
2017-05-19 10:35:10 AM  

real_headhoncho: And they intend to make a profit off it.


So do the solar cell companies, the manufacturers of wind turbines, and batteries. Not sure what your point is here.
 
2017-05-19 11:16:40 AM  

TearsofLys: No reasonable and informed person doubts that the climate is constantly in flux.  The issue is over a) how much is due to humans and b) if a is significant, what to do about it.


Wrong again. Humans are the primary contributor and fark yes, it's significant. The vast majority of the world's climate scientists reached that conclusion years ago, your bullshiat denier stance pushed by well-funded industry groups and certain politicians notwithstanding.

420Gabriel: Every major oil company admits it.


After they spent decades in which they knew it was happening funding denier propaganda. Fark them. Yes, fossil fuels have been more important to society than tobacco, but these assholes are operating on the same ethical level. Hell, in some cases they literally used PR firms that worked for the tobacco companies to deny harmful effects of cigarette smoke.
 
2017-05-19 11:24:45 AM  

KrispykremeMcDonalds: NPR - a fair and balanced "news" organization, based in Washington, D.C., where 90% of voters are left wing nutters.  Funded by taxpayers and other left wing nutjobs.  Where they have actual spots talking about farking BIRDS. Interviewing an oil company.  What do you think that oil company will say?  This is hilarious.


That CEO is on record as having said that now, regardless of your opinion about the news org.
 
2017-05-19 11:34:48 AM  
That's nice.

Greenwashing is real, too.
 
2017-05-19 11:42:45 AM  

whidbey: That's nice.

Greenwashing is real, too.


I remember when BP did it in the 2000s, big marketing campaign on PBS and other areas.
 
2017-05-19 11:57:08 AM  

make me some tea: whidbey: That's nice.

Greenwashing is real, too.

I remember when BP did it in the 2000s, big marketing campaign on PBS and other areas.


Seriously, if they believed climate change is real, they'd be dumping their oil infrastructure and cashing in on green energy.

Instead, it just looks like an obvious tax break scheme.
 
2017-05-19 12:18:26 PM  

whidbey: make me some tea: whidbey: That's nice.

Greenwashing is real, too.

I remember when BP did it in the 2000s, big marketing campaign on PBS and other areas.

Seriously, if they believed climate change is real, they'd be dumping their oil infrastructure and cashing in on green energy.

Instead, it just looks like an obvious tax break scheme.


I guess if it pushes them a few steps in the right direction, we'll have to take what we can get. This is kind of a "oil on Mars" scenario.  The way to ensure scientific progress is to make sure that progress lines someone's pockets.  It's an ugly truth, but one that can at least be relied upon for the most part.
 
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