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(The Union Leader)   State reprimands doctor for prescribing medicine to sick patient because marijuana   ( unionleader.com) divider line
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2017-05-18 06:32:00 PM  
But you know....Obamacare...
 
2017-05-18 06:43:23 PM  
FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.
 
2017-05-18 06:52:24 PM  

VogonPoet: FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.


They do that everywhere now. Basically it's that you'll take your meds as prescribed and not sell them.
 
2017-05-18 07:04:41 PM  

cretinbob: VogonPoet: FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.

They do that everywhere now. Basically it's that you'll take your meds as prescribed and not sell them.


Yeah, the patient in question had a past history of selling his prescription meds. So getting him off the opioids and using medical MJ might just put a dent in that little scam. With the (I hope) wave of MJ legalization continuing, who gives a flying rat snot about switching him over to a SAFER alternative?
 
2017-05-18 08:25:40 PM  
Oxycodone creates addicts, it's a sure thing in terms of never ending profits.

Which somehow end up in politician's and regulatory hack's pockets
 
2017-05-18 09:18:50 PM  
The patient also had several mental health conditions and 13 concussions

Holy hell. How do you get 13 concussions? Was he a really bad boxer at some point?
 
2017-05-18 09:52:48 PM  
Gotta weed out the subversives.
 
2017-05-18 09:54:49 PM  

VogonPoet: a SAFER alternative


The Devil's lettuce is never a safer alternative.

/because reasons that make no sense
 
2017-05-18 10:00:29 PM  
Debbils Lettuce!!!
 
2017-05-18 10:15:11 PM  
On April 14, 2016, Soucy signed a certification form qualifying the patient for medical marijuana. He submitted a second medical marijuana certification form on May 9, 2016.

"There is no record of respondent (Soucy) physically evaluating patient in the eight months prior to these certifications," the agreement states.
...
Prior to certifying the patient, the law requires the provider have a "three-month medical relationship" that includes an in-person exam.


This was totally about pot and had nothing to do with following the law to certify the patient.
 
2017-05-18 10:17:39 PM  

cretinbob: VogonPoet: FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.

They do that everywhere now. Basically it's that you'll take your meds as prescribed and not sell them.


imagine you are poor and in pain that requires pain meds. There are people out there that will pay enough for a quarter of your pills to cover your prescription cost of a couple a hundred a month.

Do you sell your meds, or do you starve?
 
2017-05-18 10:19:01 PM  
Well if you would give people that need it medically a way to do so legally they wouldn't have had previous pot convictions. See how that works?
 
2017-05-18 10:27:31 PM  

Jake Havechek: Oxycodone creates addicts, it's a sure thing in terms of never ending profits.

Which somehow end up in politician's and regulatory hack's pockets


This is why the drug legalization movement needs to team up with the pharmaceutical industry. The former has the moral and ethical high ground, and the latter stands to massively profit from it and has deep enough pockets to buy off the required politicians.
 
2017-05-18 10:46:10 PM  

Quaker: Jake Havechek: Oxycodone creates addicts, it's a sure thing in terms of never ending profits.

Which somehow end up in politician's and regulatory hack's pockets

This is why the drug legalization movement needs to team up with the pharmaceutical industry. The former has the moral and ethical high ground, and the latter stands to massively profit from it and has deep enough pockets to buy off the required politicians.


Not gonna happen... anyone with the space can growth their own weed. Pharma Corps want to be the ONLY source for 20 years minimum before they'll pour money into something like that...

Yeah, it won't be the best quality stuff... but it'll do if you're broke.
 
2017-05-18 11:08:04 PM  

VogonPoet: FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.


Doesn't help matters that New Hampshire dragged their heels on MMJ even after a law was passed.  And the state police have blocked decriminalization up until this month, when they finally conceded that while 1oz is just way too much, maybe they can tolerate making ¾ oz a non-criminal offense for first-time offenders.
 
2017-05-18 11:44:16 PM  

AnnoyingBuzz: Quaker: Jake Havechek: Oxycodone creates addicts, it's a sure thing in terms of never ending profits.

Which somehow end up in politician's and regulatory hack's pockets

This is why the drug legalization movement needs to team up with the pharmaceutical industry. The former has the moral and ethical high ground, and the latter stands to massively profit from it and has deep enough pockets to buy off the required politicians.

Not gonna happen... anyone with the space can growth their own weed. Pharma Corps want to be the ONLY source for 20 years minimum before they'll pour money into something like that...

Yeah, it won't be the best quality stuff... but it'll do if you're broke.


Specifically in the case of weed, yes I generally agree. Although it's worth pointing out that growing really high quality weed is much more laborious than just finding some space and sticking some seeds into some potting soil like a common house plant. I have a book on the topic somewhere that's probably two or three inches thick. Also, the amount that many people smoke would mean that they'd have to have much more than just a few plants going at any one time. So I think there will always be a market for commercially-grown weed of varying qualities.

But in any case, I was talking about legalization (and of course regulation) of all drugs. The pharmaceutical companies aren't making any money on weed as it stands, but if all of a sudden they could sell opioids and amphetamines and everything else to anyone who wanted them and without all the overhead involved in the prescription process, they'd be raking it in. And I think as a society we'd be better off overall than we are now.
 
2017-05-18 11:58:44 PM  
Weed is worthless as medicine and only does harm.  The Dr should have his license pulled and got off light.
 
2017-05-19 12:01:32 AM  
VogonPoet:
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.

Live free or die
 
2017-05-19 12:06:31 AM  
Big Pharma didn't get their cut. Worse it works.
 
2017-05-19 12:26:45 AM  

fusillade762: The patient also had several mental health conditions and 13 concussions

Holy hell. How do you get 13 concussions? Was he a really bad boxer at some point?


Probably a snowboarder, seeing as he was looking to score that weed...
 
2017-05-19 01:02:50 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Weed is worthless as medicine and only does harm.  The Dr should have his license pulled and got off light.


Your trolling is getting lamer. Try to put something together that will actually get a bite or two.
 
2017-05-19 01:03:11 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Weed is worthless as medicine and only does harm.  The Dr should have his license pulled and got off light.


3/10 This bait is all hook.  Possibly sarcasm but there's no exaggeration or attempt to show irony.  Keep working on it though, you'll get there.
 
2017-05-19 01:32:44 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Troll is worthless  and only does harm.  I should have my troll license pulled.


That's better.
 
2017-05-19 01:46:08 AM  

Destructor: Debbils Lettuce!!!


I've got the debbils lettuce in my pipe...

Beck - Devils Haircut
Youtube aa3rBVb3v4g
 
2017-05-19 02:15:29 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Weed is worthless as medicine and only does harm.  The Dr should have his license pulled and got off light.


Troll harder. Your game is weak.
 
2017-05-19 03:15:40 AM  

MrSplifferton: cretinbob: VogonPoet: FTFA: On Jan. 12, 2015, Soucy and the patient had entered into a chronic pain/narcotic management agreement for treatment with the controlled substances oxycodone and clonazepam.

But weed? No way, man.
And people wonder why New Hampshire is seen as ground zero for the opioid epidemic.

They do that everywhere now. Basically it's that you'll take your meds as prescribed and not sell them.

imagine you are poor and in pain that requires pain meds. There are people out there that will pay enough for a quarter of your pills to cover your prescription cost of a couple a hundred a month.

Do you sell your meds, or do you starve?


Personally, I'd find a billionaire that looked just like me who was sick of her life and wanted to live in my apartment to get away from it all. I'd take her place and have to fake a British accent. Wacky hijinks would ensue.
 
2017-05-19 07:43:04 AM  

Sgygus: VogonPoet: a SAFER alternative

The Devil's lettuce is never a safer alternative.

/because reasons that make no sense


I've often wondered, why do people call it the "Devil's Lettuce"? Did people used to smoke lettuce at some point? Or did people used to make salads out of cannabis plants?

This is a genuine question btw, no snark or anything.
 
2017-05-19 08:27:07 AM  
"The matter was brought to the board's attention last May by the patient's parole officer, who wrote to the board complaining about the physician's "poor judgment" in certifying the patient for medical marijuana."

What a dick.
 
2017-05-19 08:35:30 AM  

Averam: I've often wondered, why do people call it the "Devil's Lettuce"?


You'll have to get in contact with the good people at the American Board of Cannabis to get a definitive answer but my guess is that "Devil's lettuce" currently has a faddish following both as an update to slang nicknames like "wacky tobaccy" as well as gently mocking fundamentalist finger pointers.
 
2017-05-19 08:42:29 AM  

Averam: I've often wondered, why do people call it the "Devil's Lettuce"?


'Marijuana - the Devil's Weed' was the title of a movie released in 1936.
 
2017-05-19 09:00:15 AM  

johnphantom: Ima4nic8or: Weed is worthless as medicine and only does harm.  The Dr should have his license pulled and got off light.

Your trolling is getting lamer. Try to put something together that will actually get a bite or two.


You read what he wrote. And keep in mind, he has the authority of the United States Government on his side.

Now obey!
 
2017-05-19 09:42:50 AM  
So the State and its stupid law farked up this guy's life (worse than it already was) and NOW, because we farked you before, we need to keep farking you!   The State sucks. The Statists in the State are evil.
 
2017-05-19 10:47:51 AM  

abhorrent1: Well if you would give people that need it medically a way to do so legally they wouldn't have had previous pot convictions. See how that works?


It's actually very good to see you coming around to a more merciful point of view.  I mean that sincerely.
 
2017-05-19 01:26:01 PM  

Averam: I've often wondered, why do people call it the "Devil's Lettuce"?


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gateway drug man
/the chronic! what?
 
2017-05-19 02:10:13 PM  

piperTom: So the State and its stupid law farked up this guy's life (worse than it already was) and NOW, because we farked you before, we need to keep farking you!   The State sucks. The Statists in the State are evil.


The patient is on parole and has a criminal history of dealing marijuana and hard drugs.  Seems reasonable that being a pot dealer might be a disqualifier for a MM card?

  Additionally, NH state law requires an in-person exam no more than 3 months before certification for MM, which the prescribing physician, according to TFA, did not do -- he hadn't seen the patient in person in six months as of the time he wrote out the two MM certifications.     And for all that the doc only got a reprimand and required continuing ed.

The only thing this case is really a good example of is how unsympathetic defendants lead to poor precedents.
 
2017-05-19 02:30:29 PM  

knobmaker: abhorrent1: Well if you would give people that need it medically a way to do so legally they wouldn't have had previous pot convictions. See how that works?

It's actually very good to see you coming around to a more merciful point of view.  I mean that sincerely.


I have never been anti-weed. Literally never.

I think it should be legal and always have. It's the entitled, whiny, rabid, pro-pot crowd that I find objectionable. And they're easy to get riled up so....
 
2017-05-19 04:03:15 PM  
nice jorb on the reading comprehension, subby.  If you had actually read the article you'd see that the patient even with a prior record CAN GET HIS CARD.  The issue here was, and yes while the parole officer was a bit of a dick, the patient had not actually seen his doctor in more than 3 months before the application was signed.  That's it.  Period.

Nothing sensationalist happening here.  Rules were made to allow for getting the card, and the rules were not followed.  No card for you, thousand dollar fine and continuing ed for the doctor.  See your doctor in the appropriate time frame, fill out the application, pay your (non-refundable) 50 dollars.  about 2 months later get your card.  pay exorbitant prices (really?  360 an ounce?  sure, it's good stuff but 360???  Smaller quantities are even more expensive i.e. 185 for a half, 95 for a quarter, 55 for an eighth and 19.50 for a gram).  Thanks to our dick head former governor we're not allowed to grow our own because god forbid the government doesn't get to control this from seed to ashtray.
 
2017-05-19 09:31:49 PM  
The state is right on this one.  The doc was acting as a pill mill.  Docs should be careful when prescribing anything that also has recreational use and this guy wasn't.
 
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