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(BBC)   Klingons invade France. Demand prune juice, not wine   ( divider line
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2004-05-16 11:03:21 PM  
In other news, the French are distraught to find there is no word in the Klingon language for surrender.

/Not a trekkie. I swear to god. I don't actually know that there's no word for surrender in Klingon.
2004-05-16 11:21:11 PM  
Are there Klingons around Uranus?
2004-05-16 11:56:35 PM  
There is no Klingon word for surrender.

It is a good day to Fark!

/married to AND mom of trek nerds
2004-05-17 01:01:33 AM  
When I got to: "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water" I lost it. He he. I loved that episode :)
2004-05-17 01:01:38 AM  
couldn't the klingons just make up a word for surrender? it just makes so much more sense.
2004-05-17 01:02:36 AM  
Captains Log, Stardate 1123.21: This link sucks.
2004-05-17 01:03:22 AM  
something2119: I'm sure they could. After all, they didn't have a word for "peacemaker" until that Raja helped make a treaty between them and the Federation.

2004-05-17 01:05:48 AM  
nonexistent thank you, now i have many questions to go ask Mr. Google.
2004-05-17 01:06:54 AM  
Are Klingons linked to Al Queda?
2004-05-17 01:08:16 AM  
Trekies 2? I saw the first movie. I wouldn't have thought that it was worth it to revisit the concept for a second one. The one thing I remember from the first one is the dentist that outfitted his office to look like the inside of a starship.
2004-05-17 01:10:28 AM  
I wonder how long it will take for france to surrender?
2004-05-17 01:10:46 AM  
couldn't the klingons just make up a word for surrender? it just makes so much more sense.

I will offer my suggestion. The Klingon language should adopt "french" as the word meaning surrender.
2004-05-17 01:12:12 AM  
I miss the days when Star Trek had an international cast.

I wonder what Roddenberrys vision was of earth considering the fact that he was inclusive of other nations and races so long ago.

Roddenberry was truely a visionary, he seemed to see the world coming together for a common cause decades ago. And here we are decades since with an all American accented Star Trek cast. For the most part anyway, foreign accents seem to belong to those of alien races, draw your own conclusions.
2004-05-17 01:12:48 AM  
I will offer my suggestion. The Klingon language should adopt "french" as the word meaning surrender.

Thats a great idea.
2004-05-17 01:13:32 AM  
I will offer my suggestion. The Klingon language should adopt "french" as the word meaning surrender.

Not quite gutteral enough for Klingons. Maybe finding the german word for French would do better.
2004-05-17 01:15:03 AM  
For what it's worth, there's also no Klingon translation for the verb 'to be'. The guy who created the language decided it was way too peaceful and boring a concept for them to even contemplate. Which is why, in the 'Original Klingon' translation of Hamlet (a hilarious read if you're into Shakespeare and Trek), he has to say 'To continue existing or not to continue existing.."
/big farking geek signing off
2004-05-17 01:15:39 AM  

I'm just curious, since you seem to be a history buff, in its history, how many times has France surrendered?
2004-05-17 01:18:31 AM  
oh never mind some2119, I have you confused with someone else.
2004-05-17 01:19:43 AM  
I don't understand this Klingon language thing... was there a dictionary made when the show first started, or did people compile lists assigning definitions to sounds, or what?

/nerds scare me
2004-05-17 01:21:43 AM  
i first chuckled about the prune juice, and it turned into a laugh with the whole "Bags of mostly water." both good episodes...

i'd actually be interested in reading Hamlet written in Klingon.
2004-05-17 01:24:20 AM  
KLI members featured in the film include Dr d'Armond Speers, a linguist who spoke only in Klingon to his son until age three and a half...

I see therapy in that kid's future...
2004-05-17 01:24:53 AM  
A linguist who only spoke Klingon to his son until age 3 1/2? Yowza.
2004-05-17 01:27:13 AM  
A warriors drink!!!

/Tivo'd every damn TNG episode at least once.

//God Bless Spike TV
2004-05-17 01:31:14 AM  
I want to see this film!
2004-05-17 01:33:47 AM  
Maybe the linguist,(Dr d'Armond Speers's), son is the kid on Daddy Day Care whose mom didn't understand him, yet the trekkie guy did.
2004-05-17 01:34:58 AM  

Heh heh, couldn't resist.
2004-05-17 01:39:30 AM  
I wonder if Wesley Crusher will be discussed.

/Imagining what Ashley Judd's sweet, sweet ass looked like in Starfleet gabardine....
2004-05-17 01:39:33 AM  
Am I the only one wondering whether "Director Alexandre O Phillipppe" is a mildly amusing typo or a mildly interesting last name?
2004-05-17 01:40:43 AM  
Water my arse. I am an Earthling: An ugly bag mostly made of beer.

/Or perhaps, one could be, one's choice of their favorite alcohol.
2004-05-17 01:40:53 AM  
Director Alexandre O Phillipppe - inventor of the P-p-p-p-owerbook...

/still think that was some funny shiat
2004-05-17 01:48:37 AM  
So if the Klingons dont have a word for surrender, and they're such intergalactic badasses, what do they say when somebody surrenders to them? "Hey Captain, that gorn ship did, um, ya know, that thing that we don't do, and they didn't do at the Alamo, and Leonidas, he didn't do it with his Spartans, but everybody else does. well the Gorn just did it."
2004-05-17 01:50:03 AM  
P.S. I refuse to call the french surrender monkeys. They won the American Revolution, and as far as I am concerned they get a free pass until the end of time for it.
2004-05-17 01:50:43 AM  
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Just what the doctor ordered.
2004-05-17 02:06:54 AM  
Stop knocking the French. That piece of land has been at war for most of its existance as a place where humans live. With the British, with the Roman Empire, and if I'm not mistaken, the Spanish as well. And of course the Germans. Its been invaded, and the people have fought back hard.

Compare this to America. Some towel-jockey knocks over a couple of buildings so America goes and destroys two loser countries.
2004-05-17 02:11:57 AM  
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2004-05-17 02:14:00 AM  
Dude, they lost all those wars. Also your last sentence does not support your argument at all. How are we weak if we annihalted the people that attacked us?
2004-05-17 02:20:14 AM  
MadSkillz but the USA is basically England Jr. so we have to make fun of France.

It's like syphilis being called the "French disease" or the "English disease." If we have to take a side it has to be with those whig wearing, nasty teeth, emmotionally repressed bastards.
2004-05-17 02:21:48 AM  
Bah, wig. Talk about your Frudian slips (Whigs were against the Tories...who were British loyalists).
2004-05-17 02:22:52 AM  

/linux geek who can't stand star trek, and has been to France.
2004-05-17 02:23:36 AM  
Klingon started out as just a bunch of random grunty noises, but as they needed to use more and more of it they hired a linguistics guy (Marc Okrand) to keep it in check. He wound up cooking up a fully functional language with its own syntax and everything, and now they use that and only bug him when they need new words. He deliberately omitted words like 'peaceful', 'surrender', and 'hello' because the ideas they represent are foreign to the Klingon mind-set.. I can't think of any examples from the show, but I imagine the refer to surrendering as 'asking to get smacked' or something similar.
They didn't publish the Klingon Dictionary, the Klingon Hamlet, or the tapes ("Learn Conversational Klingon Now", anyone?) until they realized that there was a demand for them.
/I am nerd, hear me Qa'pla!
2004-05-17 02:27:46 AM  
There was an interactive movie released a while back that taught you the Klingon language.
2004-05-17 02:30:25 AM  
There was an interactive movie released a while back that taught you the Klingon language.

Wait, wouldn't that be a video game?
2004-05-17 02:32:37 AM  
"Some towel-jockey knocks over a couple of buildings so America goes and destroys two loser countries."

There is no proof that there were Arab terrorists on those planes, except a couple cell calls. Ever try dialing out from 30,000 feet? Have much luck?

/leading the blind
2004-05-17 02:38:07 AM  
France lost all its wars? Well, then, what kind of miracle allows it to still exist, then?
2004-05-17 02:53:13 AM  
Kudos to the submitter. This thread made me feel better about myself after having a shiatty weekend.
2004-05-17 02:54:59 AM  

Perhaps countries don't magically dissappear when conquered?
2004-05-17 03:02:55 AM  
JJOtt - Prove that the Taliban government and Saddam Hussein's government are responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I mean, when the President says that they weren't responsible, I'd like to hear your POV as to why he's wrong. Such a revelation would be the top story in Foreign Affairs, to be sure.
2004-05-17 03:15:03 AM  
Dr d'Armond Speers, a linguist who spoke only in Klingon to his son until age three and a half.

Whether they admit or not, most linguists with a new child do something like this, although most of them stick to something like using their standard language but omitting all articles.

Regardless, the experiment is not likely to damage the kid in any way. Hundreds of millions of people start learning a new language at school age, and many of them are removed from their original language environment at the same time. You can pretty much take it in stride until five or so (the acquisition period continues to ten or twelve, but the transition is not as easy). The kid will take three to five months to achieve an equal level of fluency in French (or English, or whatever) as his language-age peers.
2004-05-17 03:25:46 AM  
Without the French fleet and army the U.S. would have most likely lost the Revolution. What about Napoleon? He was a great conquerer. It's not like the French in WWII saw the Germans than ran home crying, the war was being fought before the U.S. entered it. If Japan hadn't attacked at Pearl Harbor then England would have been lost.
2004-05-17 03:39:16 AM  
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