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(TwinCities.com)   Man who doesn't use social media because "it gets people in trouble" surprised to learn a wanted fugitive has started a new life and posed as him on Facebook   ( twincities.com) divider line
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2017-04-21 12:41:09 PM  
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2017-04-21 12:59:22 PM  
So a person refuses to use social media now has a social media site created by NOT him.

This is a banner event in that the irony tag was used correctly!
 
2017-04-21 01:00:40 PM  
fnord
 
2017-04-21 01:01:46 PM  
What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area.
 
2017-04-21 01:02:08 PM  
Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that


Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.
 
2017-04-21 01:04:54 PM  
We're eating oranges and making IDs.

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2017-04-21 01:06:13 PM  

abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.


In September 2009, a 21-year-old Hawkinson assaulted his 19-year-old girlfriend by dragging her by her ankles down his basement stairs and choking her until she lost consciousness, according to court documents. He also pushed her head into a wall, put a gun to her head and threatened to kill her.
Two days later, he was arrested after breaking into the girlfriend's house in Golden Valley. Tucked into his pants was a .45-caliber handgun that had seven rounds in the eight-round magazine - and one round in the chamber.
Golden Valley police Sgt. Dave Kuhnly was a patrol officer at the time and the first one on the scene. He spotted Hawkinson in the driveway and held him at gunpoint until backup arrived. Recovered from the trunk of Hawkinson's car were a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol, two fully loaded magazines with hollow-point rounds and nearly 2 ounces of marijuana.
"There's no question in my mind that he was there to kill her," Kuhnly said this month
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He had a normal life then went all domestic abusey. Part of "turning your life around" is not skipping meetings with your parole officer.
 
2017-04-21 01:07:18 PM  

abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.


To be fair, he did try to murder the previous GF, so who knows how long the "normal life" would last.
 
2017-04-21 01:08:32 PM  

durbnpoisn: So a person refuses to use social media now has a social media site created by NOT him.

This is a banner event in that the irony tag was used correctly!


And... he thought it would get him trouble, but the other guy used it to stay out of trouble.
 
2017-04-21 01:12:02 PM  

the_cnidarian: durbnpoisn: So a person refuses to use social media now has a social media site created by NOT him.

This is a banner event in that the irony tag was used correctly!

And... he thought it would get him trouble, but the other guy used it to stay out of trouble.


Yo, there's some real O' Henry shiat all up in this here muthafarka!
 
2017-04-21 01:17:23 PM  
Wow!

Kind of like rain on your wedding day.
 
2017-04-21 01:17:42 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.

In September 2009, a 21-year-old Hawkinson assaulted his 19-year-old girlfriend by dragging her by her ankles down his basement stairs and choking her until she lost consciousness, according to court documents. He also pushed her head into a wall, put a gun to her head and threatened to kill her.
Two days later, he was arrested after breaking into the girlfriend's house in Golden Valley. Tucked into his pants was a .45-caliber handgun that had seven rounds in the eight-round magazine - and one round in the chamber.
Golden Valley police Sgt. Dave Kuhnly was a patrol officer at the time and the first one on the scene. He spotted Hawkinson in the driveway and held him at gunpoint until backup arrived. Recovered from the trunk of Hawkinson's car were a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol, two fully loaded magazines with hollow-point rounds and nearly 2 ounces of marijuana.
"There's no question in my mind that he was there to kill her," Kuhnly said this month
----

He had a normal life then went all domestic abusey. Part of "turning your life around" is not skipping meetings with your parole officer.


Have you considered he may have just been a little upset about how his scalp reduction surgery went?
 
2017-04-21 01:24:31 PM  

abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.


This Hawkinson guy violated parole and stole someones identity to "turn his life around."  Unlike THIS guy who was freed by total accident and used it as a genuine second chance until the mistake was found out. I sincerely hope they do reduce his sentence as he has by all accounts turned things around. Meanwhile, the judge is taking his sweet-ass time, taking years to decide if freedom was earned.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/22/robber-freed-90-years​-​early-by-mistake-says-he-reformed-while-free

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/21/rene-lima-marin-asks-for-sentenc​e​-reduction/

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/02/20/rene-lima-marin-inmate-released​-​colorado/
 
2017-04-21 01:27:09 PM  
Another class act that came out of Crystal. What is it with this suburb that seems to create so many idiots?
 
2017-04-21 01:33:07 PM  
Wow, Jeremy Piven sure has let himself go.
 
2017-04-21 01:41:13 PM  

Imaginativescreenname: abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.

This Hawkinson guy violated parole and stole someones identity to "turn his life around."  Unlike THIS guy who was freed by total accident and used it as a genuine second chance until the mistake was found out. I sincerely hope they do reduce his sentence as he has by all accounts turned things around. Meanwhile, the judge is taking his sweet-ass time, taking years to decide if freedom was earned.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/22/robber-freed-90-years-​early-by-mistake-says-he-reformed-while-free

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/21/rene-lima-marin-asks-for-sentence​-reduction/

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/02/20/rene-lima-marin-inmate-released-​colorado/


I'm actually upset about the 98 year sentence part.  The crimes he committed are a big deal, but not 50+ years in prison (his parole eligibility date is 2054) big.  I could get behind something 7-12 for each offense with parole 3/4 in.  14-24 with parole eligibility in 10-18 is not that bad for multiple armed robberies.
I'd also be in favor of life without parole if a new violent felony was committed while on parole, and no parole eligibility for a new non-violent felony.

On a side note, I'm tired of authorities adding kidnapping charges to everything.   These guys were charged with kidnapping for moving people from one room to another.

There's a trend in Southern Nevada to add kidnapping charges to incidents where teachers have sex with students.  The rationale behind the kidnapping charges is that the teacher met the (usually 16-17 year old) student somewhere without their parents' explicit permission, therefore it's kidnapping.

I don't think it's a good idea in the long run to water down the commonly accepted definition of kidnapping like this.
 
2017-04-21 02:25:12 PM  

pedrop357: Imaginativescreenname: abhorrent1: Hawkinson managed to stay on the lam by living a regular working-man's life and keeping out of trouble.

"It is very unusual for them to actually get a job and hold down a job for quite a few years and actually start up a new relationship to fit back into society. I could probably only name a handful of times that they've actually done that

Yeah fark those people that turn their lives around and become productive members of society. Throw them back in prison to be sure you've made it impossible for them to live a normal life again and they need to be a criminal to survive.

This Hawkinson guy violated parole and stole someones identity to "turn his life around."  Unlike THIS guy who was freed by total accident and used it as a genuine second chance until the mistake was found out. I sincerely hope they do reduce his sentence as he has by all accounts turned things around. Meanwhile, the judge is taking his sweet-ass time, taking years to decide if freedom was earned.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/22/robber-freed-90-years-​early-by-mistake-says-he-reformed-while-free

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/21/rene-lima-marin-asks-for-sentence​-reduction/

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/02/20/rene-lima-marin-inmate-released-​colorado/

I'm actually upset about the 98 year sentence part.  The crimes he committed are a big deal, but not 50+ years in prison (his parole eligibility date is 2054) big.  I could get behind something 7-12 for each offense with parole 3/4 in.  14-24 with parole eligibility in 10-18 is not that bad for multiple armed robberies.
I'd also be in favor of life without parole if a new violent felony was committed while on parole, and no parole eligibility for a new non-violent felony.

On a side note, I'm tired of authorities adding kidnapping charges to everything.   These guys were charged with kidnapping for moving people from one room to another.

There's a trend in Southern Nevada to add kidnapping charges to incidents where teachers have sex with students.  The rationale behind the kidnapping charges is that the teacher met the (usually 16-17 year old) student somewhere without their parents' explicit permission, therefore it's kidnapping.

I don't think it's a good idea in the long run to water down the commonly accepted definition of kidnapping like this.


It is similar to how they watered down the definition of sex offender to the point it has become meaningless.

It also betrays the very reason for having different sentences in the first place; if every crime gets life, why bother leaving any witnessess alive? The sentence is the same either way, and you're less apt to get caught. This is how you get the Detroit Effect today; every carjacking is a murder.
 
2017-04-21 02:25:29 PM  
Someone set up a Facebook page for my son without his knowledge while in Jr. High.  Invited his friends and nothing derogatory happened.  Took nearly an act of God for them to take it down (or threatening to turn lawyers on them).  I couldn't request, because I wasn't Carter.  Carter could not, because he was a minor.

I think they have changed these rules by now.
 
2017-04-21 02:40:15 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area.


This is why I'll be hiding out in the whorehouse.
 
2017-04-21 03:22:22 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Sin_City_Superhero: What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

This is why I'll be hiding out in the whorehouse.


Nobody pays attention to the guy with the mop...
 
2017-04-21 03:37:47 PM  

the_cnidarian: durbnpoisn: So a person refuses to use social media now has a social media site created by NOT him.

This is a banner event in that the irony tag was used correctly!

And... he thought it would get him trouble, but the other guy used it to stay out of trouble.


Stay out of trouble?

"Facebook was Hawkinson's undoing."
and
"I don't do social media," Scoggins said. "It gets people in trouble."

I'd say the OBVIOUS tag has some explaining to do about its whereabouts on April 21, 2017.
 
2017-04-21 04:35:17 PM  

Bugerz: Another class act that came out of Crystal. What is it with this suburb that seems to create so many idiots?


There happens to be lots of group homes in that area. But why? I do not know. Also I know the former health inspector, he has the craziest stories I ever heard. He has a new job now, and is bored as hell.
 
2017-04-21 07:39:49 PM  
Interesting that the identity theft charge is only a misdemeanor.  It's almost like authorities don't take identity theft seriously...
 
2017-04-21 08:38:16 PM  

pedrop357: I'm actually upset about the 98 year sentence part. The crimes he committed are a big deal, but not 50+ years in prison (his parole eligibility date is 2054) big. I could get behind something 7-12 for each offense with parole 3/4 in. 14-24 with parole eligibility in 10-18 is not that bad for multiple armed robberies.
I'd also be in favor of life without parole if a new violent felony was committed while on parole, and no parole eligibility for a new non-violent felony.


It'd be nice if we could get away from the whole lip service to "corrections" and "rehabilitation" that authorities prefer to use now, when retribution seems to be the only real goal. If Colorado is that intent on throwing an obviously corrected man in prison, then either the original sentence was wrong or the name of the Colorado Department of Corrections is an Orwellian lie. Which would they rather pick?
 
2017-04-21 09:24:26 PM  

arcas: Interesting that the identity theft charge is only a misdemeanor.  It's almost like authorities don't take identity theft seriously...


Maybe because the value of damages caused by the identity theft wasn't really that bad for the victim.  Just using the guy's name and creating a social media page may not have cost the guy a dollar.  Now sure, if the identity theft costed the guy his credit rating, and maybe a large sum of money to clear his financial name, then book the thief with a felony.
 
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