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(Slate)   This might shock you, but in Trump's White House there is no clear chain of command as no one knows who's really in charge   ( slate.com) divider line
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2017-04-21 08:30:42 AM  
More like, who's to blame?

Kids In The Hall - Who's To Blame?
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2017-04-21 08:52:17 AM  
No chain of command means no accountability.

/cheque mayt liberindos
 
2017-04-21 09:03:35 AM  
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2017-04-21 09:25:22 AM  

gopher321: More like, who's to blame?

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If that's the standard, I'm guessing Obama's still in charge.
 
2017-04-21 09:26:06 AM  
It's more of an organic mix.  Like a cesspool.
 
2017-04-21 09:34:57 AM  
There is a chain, but Bannon keeps it locked in the chest in the special dungeon in between his sessions with Donnie.
 
2017-04-21 09:42:38 AM  
Mister Carter Trump is in charge, it is his responsibility. If there is no change of command then it is his fault. Don't forget that and don't try to diffuse Trump's fault in this by saying no one seems to be in charge.


And if anyone wants to hear about Trump's managerial style go listen to Fresh Air from yesterday.
 
2017-04-21 09:50:34 AM  
John Barron's in charge. Or John Baron. Or John Miller. One of those guys.

I hear they're all great. Just tremendous people. Believe me.
 
2017-04-21 09:58:24 AM  
Putin is.
 
2017-04-21 09:58:30 AM  
Isn't Jared the boss?  Or is it Ivanka?  Or Bannon?  Ya know, now that I think about it, this is all Fartbongo HUSSEIN's fault.
 
2017-04-21 10:05:42 AM  
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2017-04-21 10:15:40 AM  
Al Haig?
 
2017-04-21 10:16:01 AM  
The buck stops somewhere around here.
 
2017-04-21 10:16:20 AM  
It's not the Nazi that looks like a homeless guy asleep on the couch in the Oval?  Or was he only in charge of the former National Security Adviser that resigned in disgrace?
 
2017-04-21 10:16:54 AM  
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I feel like this must get said alot by staffers in the White house
 
2017-04-21 10:18:26 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: It's not the Nazi that looks like a homeless guy asleep on the couch in the Oval?  Or was he only in charge of the former National Security Adviser that resigned in disgrace?


He's more worried about finding a new liver.
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2017-04-21 10:18:44 AM  
That's a feature, not a bug.

It allows Trump to take credit for anything he wants to ("I said that needed to happen, so I made it happen") and to avoid blame for anything that goes wrong ("I never specifically ordered that guy to do that" / "I said the opposite needed to happen").
 
2017-04-21 10:19:10 AM  
You idiots, it's perfectly obvious who is in charge. It's right there in the title.

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2017-04-21 10:19:23 AM  
If I needed something big done, I'd probably try to convince Ivanka and then get out of the way. If I want something smaller done right, I'd check if Mattis had an available undersecretary/senior aide.
 
2017-04-21 10:20:11 AM  

Karac: That's a feature, not a bug.

It allows Trump to take credit for anything he wants to ("I said that needed to happen, so I made it happen") and to avoid blame for anything that goes wrong ("I never specifically ordered that guy to do that" / "I said the opposite needed to happen").


Bingo. That's Trump's whole management "strategy". Tell his yes-men to make things happen; if they happen, take credit, if they don't, blame the yes-men. It keeps him from ever having to admit that he farked up.
 
2017-04-21 10:20:35 AM  
Dick Cheney in an iron lung?
 
2017-04-21 10:21:36 AM  
Generalissimo Kushner has everything under control.

ei.marketwatch.com
 
2017-04-21 10:21:54 AM  
*insert constipated British detective meme here*
 
2017-04-21 10:23:24 AM  
This is the Trump administration in a nutshell.
Apocalypse Now; the Do Long Bridge Roach Scene
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2017-04-21 10:24:09 AM  
As far as I'm concerned, the more disorganized the GOP is, the better. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be if they were actually capable of accomplishing their entire agenda?
 
2017-04-21 10:25:05 AM  

grumpfuff: You idiots, it's perfectly obvious who is in charge. It's right there in the title.

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Angela Bower is clearly The Boss.
 
2017-04-21 10:25:26 AM  

Archidude: Generalissimo Kushner has everything under control.

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I never want to go to a warn zone dressed like that. Dressing like that screams SNIPER TARGET. The fact he is wearing armor at all is because the military guys on the ground said "You have to wear this at the absolute minimum, we don't care if it creases your suit"
 
2017-04-21 10:28:14 AM  
For those who actually RTFA, there is serious concern about who is in charge between Trump and the generals to whom he has delegated near-complete authority to make decisions about when and where the US military will be used. Those same generals ran roughshod over Obama when he first came into office (basically forcing him to start a surge in Afghanistan) and as the equivalent of courtiers with their own armies are the real threat to liberty in the United States.

To be honest, the blame for all of this lies with W Bush. Creating a state of permanent war creates an environment where the military is granted outsize power and influence in the government, and while the civilian leadership changes the groupthink from the same military commanders remains in place.
 
2017-04-21 10:28:20 AM  

Elfich: Archidude: Generalissimo Kushner has everything under control.

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I never want to go to a warn zone dressed like that. Dressing like that screams SNIPER TARGET. The fact he is wearing armor at all is because the military guys on the ground said "You have to wear this at the absolute minimum, we don't care if it creases your suit"


Worse than the whites at GITMO, right?
 
2017-04-21 10:28:23 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: As far as I'm concerned, the more disorganized the GOP is, the better. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be if they were actually capable of accomplishing their entire agenda?



That's why Pence terrifies me.  More now that they've clearly given him a top tier international PR tour.  He seems like a pro.  Especially compared to Trump.
 
2017-04-21 10:29:41 AM  
Trump says, "I'm the decider"
But only when Bannon, or Kushner, or Ivanka tell him to.
 
2017-04-21 10:30:41 AM  

Karac: That's a feature, not a bug.

It allows Trump to take credit for anything he wants to ("I said that needed to happen, so I made it happen") and to avoid blame for anything that goes wrong ("I never specifically ordered that guy to do that" / "I said the opposite needed to happen").


Yep, and we already knew this back in December.
 
2017-04-21 10:31:12 AM  
Hitler liked to play rivals against each other. Not exactly the same thing. Or is it?
 
2017-04-21 10:31:32 AM  

Catlenfell: Trump says, "I'm the decider"
But only when Bannon, or Kushner, or Ivanka tell him to.


Hey, he is busy golfing and "winning" deals. He doesn't have time for details like where the aircraft carrier actually is.
 
2017-04-21 10:32:32 AM  
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2017-04-21 10:32:44 AM  

jethroe: The Dog Ate My Homework: As far as I'm concerned, the more disorganized the GOP is, the better. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be if they were actually capable of accomplishing their entire agenda?


That's why Pence terrifies me.  More now that they've clearly given him a top tier international PR tour.  He seems like a pro.  Especially compared to Trump.


Eh, don't buy it. Pence is a moron. Capable of projecting a semblance of order, but he's far from Caesar.
 
2017-04-21 10:34:32 AM  
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2017-04-21 10:34:49 AM  

Archidude: Generalissimo Kushner has everything under control.

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Side note, f*ck Jimmy Fallon's portrayal of that sh*tbag as a coquettish schoolboy on SNL. It was on par with him ruffling Trump's head ferret.
 
2017-04-21 10:35:21 AM  
Like the Nixon administration.
 
2017-04-21 10:35:36 AM  
It is a phenomenal chain!  Solid gold chain!  Best chain!  All the best links in that chain...the most links really.  Just the best.  Really phenomenal.
 
2017-04-21 10:37:09 AM  
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"Dammit, no one's missing me yet!"
 
2017-04-21 10:37:36 AM  

jethroe: The Dog Ate My Homework: As far as I'm concerned, the more disorganized the GOP is, the better. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be if they were actually capable of accomplishing their entire agenda?


That's why Pence terrifies me.  More now that they've clearly given him a top tier international PR tour.  He seems like a pro.  Especially compared to Trump.


I see Pence as evil, don't get me wrong, but he's less of a wild card than Trump and is less likely to do something catastrophically bad. However, he's more likely to get smaller horrible things done.

Should Trump be ousted for whatever reason including Trump declaring "you don't deserve me" and ascending to the mothership, it will be interesting to see the purge in the cabinet and staff. The following semi-efficient bureaucratic theocracy will suck to live under, though.
 
2017-04-21 10:38:10 AM  

PlaidJaguar: grumpfuff: You idiots, it's perfectly obvious who is in charge. It's right there in the title.

[images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com image 182x268]

Angela Bower is clearly The Boss.


It's simultaneously disturbing yet somewhat comforting that I came in here to post the same thing.

/  Discomforting?
// Comfurbing?
/// Nigel Yellis?
 
2017-04-21 10:38:28 AM  

UberDave: [img.fark.net image 425x215]

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We better get inside, 'cause it'll be Trump soon, and he mostly tweets at night. Mostly...
 
2017-04-21 10:38:53 AM  

tommyl66: The buck stops somewhere around here.


Pass the buck to your left.

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2017-04-21 10:39:59 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: jethroe: The Dog Ate My Homework: As far as I'm concerned, the more disorganized the GOP is, the better. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be if they were actually capable of accomplishing their entire agenda?


That's why Pence terrifies me.  More now that they've clearly given him a top tier international PR tour.  He seems like a pro.  Especially compared to Trump.

Eh, don't buy it. Pence is a moron. Capable of projecting a semblance of order, but he's far from Caesar.


I disagree.  Pence is brilliant.  He really is a smart dude.  He is a scary Armageddon-welcoming Christian dominionist with a bad track record of defending the rights of people ideologically different from him and piss poor idea of where the line between his personal beliefs end and his professional obligations begin.  But he's not stupid.
 
2017-04-21 10:40:12 AM  

ducklord666: PlaidJaguar: grumpfuff: You idiots, it's perfectly obvious who is in charge. It's right there in the title.

[images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com image 182x268]

Angela Bower is clearly The Boss.

It's simultaneously disturbing yet somewhat comforting that I came in here to post the same thing.

/  Discomforting?
// Comfurbing?
/// Nigel Yellis?


I was going to post Mona.
 
2017-04-21 10:41:18 AM  

bainsguy: Archidude: Generalissimo Kushner has everything under control.

[ei.marketwatch.com image 850x478]

Side note, f*ck Jimmy Fallon's portrayal of that sh*tbag as a coquettish schoolboy on SNL. It was on par with him ruffling Trump's head ferret.


I about lost it when he called him a cute little twink...
 
2017-04-21 10:41:59 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: It's not the Nazi that looks like a homeless guy asleep on the couch in the Oval?  Or was he only in charge of the former National Security Adviser that resigned in disgrace?


This.
 
2017-04-21 10:42:29 AM  

Jake Havechek: Like the Nixon administration.


Dunno. Nixon might have been a paranoid nutbar, but I don't think anyone in his White House was confused about whether or not he was in charge.
 
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