Dahnkster - It's not about being god hating liberals. Some of us are simply sick of every successful person going around saying god blessed me when many of them are just arrogant and egotistical people with dedication. If god does indeed pick favorites, those people wouldn't be it. Did mmother Theresa state God blessed me every chance she got. No, she was too busy doing good deeds to thank god.

This guy any relation to Smarty Jones??

I thought my headline was better. I quoted Jones himself. "Roy Jones would lose if somebody would beat me"

On a side note. I was shocked. I don't think he will lose to Tarver again, as there will most likley be another rematch.

And... Jones did win that first fight, no matter what some people will say.

Roy Jones Jr. is the greatest boxer that ever lived... this was a big surprise.

Lucky punch. That is all it was. Reminds me of Rachman vs. Lewis 1. There will be a rematch and Tarver will be destroyed. That is all.

Great headline! I had Jones' song stuck in my head for a while after seeing all the promo for this fight.

fark! i had this tivo-ed and was going to watch it today not knowing the outcome. i should know better than to come to fark.

STILL one of the the greatest, pound for pound EVER!shiat happens and you hope it misses you.My guess is he'll absolutely smoke Tyson...I mean that in a boxing way...C'mon guys, you know what I meant.

::I did mean it that way, honest I did.

As much as i hate Tarver and appreciate Jones, it was a beautiful punch. Jones took it like a man, didn't give an excuse and gave Tarver the credit he deserved. But let's get one thing straight, Tarver will never be the pound-for-pound, undisputed, people's champion of the world. Roy Jones Jr. WILL OWN Tyson.

I saw it and I still think it was fixed

If they were going to bother to fix the fight, don't you think they would have made it longer than 2 rounds? And what incentive does Jones have to take a dive when he makes more money as a champion fighter (not to mention endorsements) than anyone could possibly bribe him with?

No fix. He lost.

Cocky, egotistical, arrogant.

Deservingly so though. He is by far the most talented boxer out there. It is one thing to beat jones, but you don't get the best of him twice.

If you saw him fight Montell Griffin in the rematch, you would understand why I say that.

It's one thing to have everything to lose and nothing to gain, but if he fights tarver again he's going to have that vengence, and that is something I would not want to be in the ring with.


As far as physically taxing, I've boxed, wrestled, and fought, and that is the order they go in as far as the overall feeling of exhaustion.

I've fought for 20 seconds in a parking lot and been sore for a solid 7 days from it, and thats not even counting the punches you take, that's just the dealing out. When the adrenaline starts to take a backseat to fatigue, you feel it in the worst way.

and as far as "why don't we just rename boxing hitting".... Why not rename football "big guys smashing into each other", and lets rename hockey "hitting a puck with sticks". While we are at it, lets rename collegiate wrestling "gay sex".

I would continue on to say "If you think this that and this, then you must be this that and this.", but I think it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue about what a sport is.

I watched it, recorded it, and watched it about 50 times again. Homeboy got in a lucky punch he wasn't even watching. If you get the right camera angle that guy had his eyes closed from the second he launched that punch. He got LUCKY and jones got knocked the fark out. plain and simple. No thrown fight....its vegas baby, some folks get lucky!!

RJJ knocked out? Fix accusations? I really want to see this fight.

"Defend yourselves at all times"

I glad someboby knocked out Jones. For me, He has always seemd to be more glits and glamor than fighter. The Light Heavyweight division is one of the weakest in Boxing. Congratulations to Traver. Hope he defends it well and brings respect back to the divison.

No RJJ fan but he was definitely the greatest pound-for-pound boxer since Sugar Ray Robinson. He did get hit with a pretty damn good left right on the chin but we have to remember the man IS 35yo and has been fighting for 15 years. Maybe it's just his time to move on cuz dominating your weight class for 15 years and then moving up to heavyweight and being successful it's not much more for him to prove. He talked alot but he could back it up and up until this fight no one could touch him but the combo of father-time and tarver caught up to him. When's the rematch?

Do any of you kind farkers have this fight uploaded anywhere? I'm trying to get it over Bit Torrent. At the blazing fast rate of 1 KB/sec.

I scored big in Vegas and bet against RJJ. I figured his win against Ruiz would relax Roy into thinking Tarver was an easy win. Odds are he's going to annihilate whomever his next opponent will be to make up for the loss and prove he's stil the best pound for pound boxer out there today. 35 y.o. or not he's still the man. This loss may have cancelled any chance of fighting Tyson but money talks louder then pride in this business so who knows. Either way I'm laying down a cool grand on Roy to win his next fight.

If it was fixed, it would have come down to a decision. That's the way it works.

I'm looking to see it too. Anyone have a download link?

Found one. not the greatest, and theres some crazy hombres in the background talking jibberish.

http://www.scenechaos.com/ricks%20stuff/Movie_0001.wmv

Doesn't really look like Tarver connected that heavily on the hook... I had money on Tarver, but this doesn't seem right...

Too many belts now.

I got a goddamned belt for fighting traffic last week.

They need one organization/belt for each weight class. That would bring a lot more credibility to being a "champ"

tudda - Whoah. Thanks for the link.

Jeez, it looked like Jones hit Tarver harder in that exchange. I hope they air it as scheduled next weekend, maybe the punch looks more substantial from another angle.

For defending yourself in real life, from every standpoint wrestling is the best martial art.

It wasn't a fix...it was a matter of time. RJJ is way out of his "natural" weight class. Anyone with any sense knew he'd get beat sooner or later by one of these bigger men. Sure he could beat a couple of light heavies, maybe even some heavyweights, but they were bums. Put him in with a top ranked fighter in those weight classes and this will be the result more often than not. They may onlly land 7 of 54, but those 7 are harder than ANY middle weight can hit.

tudda
wtf, in this day and age people are video camming their own tvs? argh....

These people who are claiming fix know nothing about boxing, it's that simple. Jones got caught with a solid left hook square on the chin. That's the punch that knocks you out. Any fighter other than RJJ probably would have taken the count on their back.

Anyone can get caught...

My tribute to Roy Jones Jr:

http://royjonesjr.ytmnd.com/

wow Klyde, what an ignorant comment

I'd be more specific and say "grappling" Klyde

I read over the first few posts, and some people seem to think that Roy Jones getting knocked out and losing his first bought, other then his previous DQ loss for knocking somebody out after they went to one knee after taking a beating, is a fix. I did not see the fight, or the punch, but this is boxing people. Keep in mind it's professional punchers punching each other. One punch can knock anybody out. EVEN YOU!! now i know everbody is such a hardass and can kick anybodies ass, but one punch can still take you out. It just takes one. I took him 50 fights to finally take that one punch. I'll leave it at that. Roy Jones is a great boxer, and got drilled in the face, and lost. Crazier shiat has happened.

klyde

I'll deny the claim that wrestling is the best overall martial art for defending yourself in "real life" as you put it. It's not even the best in "reality life".

Overall best -
Ishinru Karate
Jui-Jitsu (Brazilian especially)

These arts were formed for the soul purpose of self-defense, and they do a GREAT job of doing it. My buddy is half my size, height and weight wise-but can throw me around like a little girl cuz he is very good at Ishinru. It's some cool stuff, the guard is the most superior defense technique, and it's used in the most vulnerable of positions.

RevMercutio

Mixed Martial Arts, (whom the ignorant call Ultimate Fighting) is a lot better regulated than boxing is.

So, the people that created and marketed "Ultimate Fighting" must be pretty ignorant, since they go around calling it "Ultimate Fighting" all the time.

But I'm sure you feel better about yourself, knowing that you're SO much smarter than all the other FARK posters out there...

/at least I close my tags.

/I also make sure to use the word "whom" correctly when calling someone I don't know "ignorant."

Why is it that every time boxing/fighting/martial arts gets brought up in a forum, suddenly everybody is frickin' expert?

Farkguy01: Sunanju is teh best!11

Trollyman: Nuh UH! I knoe teh martial artes an Po-ju-do OWNZ sunanju!!!

MrOtherguy: Pishaw! EVERYONE knows double-ended shovels is the super-secret deadliest art!

Trollyman: F yoo MrOtherGuy! I am 15th degree elastic belt, and I'd kick your shoveling butt if mom lets me use the car!

Seriously, listening to people debate martial arts reminds me of 7th grade gym glass.

/hope I don't get beaten up

seabass242
Roy Jones Jr. is the greatest boxer that ever lived


Most ignorant post ever. Cassius Clay just phoned me and called you a few names. He was kind of mumbling so I couldn't make them all out, but I think "fool" was in there somewhere.

farkdd

In case you get back to this thread, you might want to know a bit about UFC and Boxing before you make retarded comments. Both are very demanding physically and intellectually. I know it is possible to get in the ring and be a brawler like Tyson, but for most people in the game it is like a chess match except you get hurt when you make a mistake. Boxing has about 10 deaths a year, UFC none. I've been training Vale Tudo (essentially UFC) for just over a year and the worst thing that has happened to me was my knee getting cracked really good and a bit of a limp for about 1 month.
My coach is all of 5'9" 160lbs and could whip Tyson et all in a NHB(no holds barred) fight (Boxing is definately another story).

bluenovaman

Please show me where I ever said that either boxing or UFC was "not very demanding physically or intellectually." Not there.

You might want to know a bit about what I actually said before self-assuredly claiming that I've made non-existant "retarded comments."

As for the fact that there are only 10 deaths a year, that's why I said it's one step up from gladiators. You also forgot to mention the countless cases of brain damage, broken limbs, and other serious injuries. And please don't bring football into this - in football, injuring someone so badly that they can not continue is not the sole point of the sport (it's not supposed to be the point at all).

As for your coach whipping Tyson, and how cool you are for "training Vale Tudo," I don't really care and I don't see how anything you said had to do with my posts. Show me where I ever said boxers/UFC'ers are not tough, bad-ass people. But, then again, so were the gladiators...