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(The New York Times)   Harass a bunch of women and what do you get? Another day older and a $25 million payoff. Wait a minute, that's not how that song goes. WTF?   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-04-21 08:21:18 AM  
It should be noted, that the current level of payouts is still considered cheaper than just fixing the network's policies and coming clean on the sheer amount of sexual harassment that has gone on within those walls...
 
2017-04-21 08:30:25 AM  
It has been SO hard to rear children for the past 25 years, once they become aware of who gets ahead and seems to suffer so little.

Sigh.

"Because this is what WE do, just in case mama's wrong and there actually IS an afterlife" just doesn't cut it when the "evil" acts get rewarded everywhere they look.
 
2017-04-21 08:33:24 AM  
That's $40M to Ailes for harassing women, $25M to O'Reilly for harassing women, and $20M in hush money to all the various women who threatened to go public over the decade and a half Fox was covering it up.

Fox has paid out $85M over its grope culture. Of that money, $65M went to the harassers themselves.

Or to put it another way, 76.4% of Fox's payouts have gone to the men who groped and intimidated their employees, and 24.4% of the payouts have gone to the women who were groped and intimidated by their rich and powerful bosses.

Cool.

And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.- President Donald J Trump
 
2017-04-21 09:06:20 AM  
You're fired!  Here's a big-ass check.
 
2017-04-21 09:24:19 AM  
That's all Fox's fault if they offered him a contract without a standard morals clause.
 
2017-04-21 09:24:29 AM  

pkjun: That's $40M to Ailes for harassing women, $25M to O'Reilly for harassing women, and $20M in hush money to all the various women who threatened to go public over the decade and a half Fox was covering it up.

Fox has paid out $85M over its grope culture. Of that money, $65M went to the harassers themselves.

Or to put it another way, 76.4% of Fox's payouts have gone to the men who groped and intimidated their employees, and 24.4% of the payouts have gone to the women who were groped and intimidated by their rich and powerful bosses.

Cool.

And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.- President Donald J Trump


Making America great again ... one cover up and payoff at a time.
 
2017-04-21 09:25:25 AM  

mama2tnt: It has been SO hard to rear children for the past 25 years, once they become aware of who gets ahead and seems to suffer so little.

Sigh.

"Because this is what WE do, just in case mama's wrong and there actually IS an afterlife" just doesn't cut it when the "evil" acts get rewarded everywhere they look.


Isn't that just the human condition in general? There's no such thing as karma. Good things happen to people who are born with good genes and wealthy families. Just be glad it's the modern era where at least the bad guys are just groping and making off like bandits rather than ordering around armies and going full-scale genocide, rape, and pillage.
 
2017-04-21 09:25:34 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: You're fired!  Here's a big-ass check.


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/oblig
 
2017-04-21 09:28:00 AM  

Shaggy_C: mama2tnt: It has been SO hard to rear children for the past 25 years, once they become aware of who gets ahead and seems to suffer so little.

Sigh.

"Because this is what WE do, just in case mama's wrong and there actually IS an afterlife" just doesn't cut it when the "evil" acts get rewarded everywhere they look.

Isn't that just the human condition in general? There's no such thing as karma. Good things happen to people who are born with good genes and wealthy families. Just be glad it's the modern era where at least the bad guys are just groping and making off like bandits rather than ordering around armies and going full-scale genocide, rape, and pillage.


O_O
wow ...
 
2017-04-21 09:30:17 AM  
If that were you or me, we'd have gotten a cardboard box, 10 minutes to pack up our shiat, and a security escort to the front door.
 
2017-04-21 09:31:17 AM  
I get that it's shiatty and all but I don't see how the people who are upset about this propose that Fox not fulfil their contractual obligations.
 
2017-04-21 09:32:05 AM  
You can't explain that!
 
2017-04-21 09:32:34 AM  

sniderman: Sin_City_Superhero: You're fired!  Here's a big-ass check.

[img.fark.net image 500x342]

/oblig


Look at that ass-car go!
 
2017-04-21 09:33:29 AM  
When I was a kid I was often told I was immature and needed to "grow up".  Don't mind those bullies; they're destined for failure and one day you'll be looking down on them.  The world is run by rational people, so you need to be one of them.

You were wrong, Mom and Dad.
 
2017-04-21 09:41:57 AM  

Egoy3k: I get that it's shiatty and all but I don't see how the people who are upset about this propose that Fox not fulfil their contractual obligations.

I think the weirder thing about all this is the proliferation of golden parachutes.  When the fark did this become an accepted thing?  They're basically bets that I'll have reasons to not want you around.  If I'm a major shareholder or whatever and you're demanding $25 million in the event you're fired, I don't want anything to do with you.  I do get the scapegoat thing but then you tell me why you want a job where you think you're going to be cut loose on a whim.
Obviously, corporate executives and media personalities don't trust each other, but for them to embrace mutual mistrust in contract negotiations is through-the-looking-glass weird.  You don't actually trust people in business -- that's why every b2b deal has a contract -- but this is just a particular way guaranteed money is structured.  It could just as easily be a signing bonus, but this is how contracts look when both sides have no confidence in themselves.
 
2017-04-21 09:42:26 AM  

mama2tnt: It has been SO hard to rear children for the past 25 years, once they become aware of who gets ahead and seems to suffer so little.

Sigh.

"Because this is what WE do, just in case mama's wrong and there actually IS an afterlife" just doesn't cut it when the "evil" acts get rewarded everywhere they look.


So, sad, yet so true.
 
2017-04-21 09:43:56 AM  

dragonchild: When I was a kid I was often told I was immature and needed to "grow up".  Don't mind those bullies; they're destined for failure and one day you'll be looking down on them.  The world is run by rational people, so you need to be one of them.

You were wrong, Mom and Dad.


img.fark.net
 
2017-04-21 09:49:13 AM  

dragonchild: When I was a kid I was often told I was immature and needed to "grow up".  Don't mind those bullies; they're destined for failure and one day you'll be looking down on them.  The world is run by rational people, so you need to be one of them.

You were wrong, Mom and Dad.


You believed that crap? I guess the real lesson you took from childhood was not that you should be rational but that you should be naive.
 
2017-04-21 09:51:45 AM  

dragonchild: Egoy3k: I get that it's shiatty and all but I don't see how the people who are upset about this propose that Fox not fulfil their contractual obligations.
I think the weirder thing about all this is the proliferation of golden parachutes.  When the fark did this become an accepted thing?  They're basically bets that I'll have reasons to not want you around.  If I'm a major shareholder or whatever and you're demanding $25 million in the event you're fired, I don't want anything to do with you.  I do get the scapegoat thing but then you tell me why you want a job where you think you're going to be cut loose on a whim.
Obviously, corporate executives and media personalities don't trust each other, but for them to embrace mutual mistrust in contract negotiations is through-the-looking-glass weird.  You don't actually trust people in business -- that's why every b2b deal has a contract -- but this is just a particular way guaranteed money is structured.  It could just as easily be a signing bonus, but this is how contracts look when both sides have no confidence in themselves.


A lot of companies treat their management like a professional sports team does. One bad year and you're out. It's not so much mistrust as it is acceptance of reality.  I'd get a minimum of 3 months if I were canned and I'm sure the higher ups have better deals than I do.  If i had to choose between my that and a job that was more secure I'd pick the latter but my lets call it a bronze plated parachute is better than nothing.
 
2017-04-21 09:51:51 AM  

Shaggy_C: You believed that crap?

I was young; I didn't know better.
 
2017-04-21 09:52:07 AM  

dragonchild: I think the weirder thing about all this is the proliferation of golden parachutes.  When the fark did this become an accepted thing?  They're basically bets that I'll have reasons to not want you around.  If I'm a major shareholder or whatever and you're demanding $25 million in the event you're fired, I don't want anything to do with you.


I think it is more like 'guaranteed money' in an NFL contract than a 'golden parachute'. When you have leverage in a negotiation, you want to ensure yourself the best possible position. A lot of these contracts have offset clauses too, such that they only have to pay the difference between his existing contract and whatever new job he takes up (if he takes one).
 
2017-04-21 10:03:55 AM  
BILL O'REILLY REDUCED TO INTERRUPTING AND TALKING OVER AUTOMATED CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM

Disgraced former FOX star overheard interrupting Comcast service appointment message


"Good morning and thank you for calling Comcast --"

"Shut up, you don't know what you're talking about!"

"I'm sorry, I don't understand --"

"Don't pull that crap here, you're in the No Spin Zone!"

"Are you calling about your wireless service? If so, say yes or --"

"What a bunch of malarkey!"

" -- press 1."

"That's it, get out! Cut her mike off. CUT IT OFF!!!"

"I'm sorry, I don't understand --"

(Click, dial tone)
 
2017-04-21 10:07:10 AM  

Egoy3k: A lot of companies treat their management like a professional sports team does. One bad year and you're out. It's not so much mistrust as it is acceptance of reality.

No, I get that.  It's also agreeable for extremely stupid CFOs because a frontloaded contract is an instant hit to the books whereas if you play out the contract you can avoid paying severance at all.
But your reasoning is why athletes' agents demand signing bonuses.  Their clients could get cut at any time; the agent and athlete both want guaranteed money up front.  You sign with someone you're passing on other opportunities so there needs to be "don't waste my time" money tied to that.  The weird thing is insisting on the money coming out the ass end, and that gambit actually working.  This is money you get only if things go bad.  Things do go bad, but again, if you come to my desk saying you need to literally blackmail me to prevent getting fired, get the fark out of my cubicle office.
 
2017-04-21 10:10:56 AM  

hubiestubert: It should be noted, that the current level of payouts is still considered cheaper than just fixing the network's policies and coming clean on the sheer amount of sexual harassment that has gone on within those walls...


Hot Chocolate.
 
2017-04-21 11:03:30 AM  
We're not really discussing how to make contracts more beneficial to employers are we? This is a transfer of money from a group of super shiatty people to a single super shiatty person. None of us win here.
 
2017-04-21 11:05:45 AM  
O'Reiley's contract had a one-year payout in case it was terminated early, like this. He loses out on the other three years of the contract. So, it might make you feel a bit better to think of O'Reiley losing on the remaining $75 million of his contract.
 
2017-04-21 11:17:11 AM  

hubiestubert: dragonchild: When I was a kid I was often told I was immature and needed to "grow up".  Don't mind those bullies; they're destined for failure and one day you'll be looking down on them.  The world is run by rational people, so you need to be one of them.

You were wrong, Mom and Dad.

[img.fark.net image 491x417]


True.
 
2017-04-21 11:54:41 AM  
Why is anyone surprised by this? You can literally grab women by the pussy and become president of the United States. We don't punish people for their misogynistic behavior.
"Oh. You sexually harassed dozens of women over the past decade? Here's $25 million for your trouble. Have a good time in Maui while you think about what you did".
I'm a guy and I've seen the pigish behavior of men in the workplace. The office manager at my old job would verbally harass women all the time. Took three years for management to fire him, and that was after my buddy and I (two men) started harassing management about the office manager's behavior, They never listened to the women.
No one cares. This is the work environment America has grown to accept.
 
2017-04-21 11:57:10 AM  

meanmutton: O'Reiley's contract had a one-year payout in case it was terminated early, like this. He loses out on the other three years of the contract. So, it might make you feel a bit better to think of O'Reiley losing on the remaining $75 million of his contract.


That is assuming he doesn't take any other jobs, and I don't get the feeling O'Reilly is ready to ride off into the sunset.  He may be considering something dramatic, like pulling in people like Hanity, Ingraham, and Limbaugh and starting yet another cable news station.
 
2017-04-21 12:45:58 PM  
Didn't he sign this contract about a month ago while the scandal was already going? Fox News is just as dumb as I thought.
 
2017-04-21 01:12:46 PM  

dragonchild: Egoy3k: I get that it's shiatty and all but I don't see how the people who are upset about this propose that Fox not fulfil their contractual obligations.
I think the weirder thing about all this is the proliferation of golden parachutes.  When the fark did this become an accepted thing?  They're basically bets that I'll have reasons to not want you around.  If I'm a major shareholder or whatever and you're demanding $25 million in the event you're fired, I don't want anything to do with you.  I do get the scapegoat thing but then you tell me why you want a job where you think you're going to be cut loose on a whim.
Obviously, corporate executives and media personalities don't trust each other, but for them to embrace mutual mistrust in contract negotiations is through-the-looking-glass weird.  You don't actually trust people in business -- that's why every b2b deal has a contract -- but this is just a particular way guaranteed money is structured.  It could just as easily be a signing bonus, but this is how contracts look when both sides have no confidence in themselves.


Meanwhile pensions have become a thing of the past: the idea that a job offers you future security against uncertainty is only true of the top of the corporate structure.
 
2017-04-21 02:05:38 PM  
But rappers and pro athletes are the real women haters so can we please get back to what is actually harming women?
 
2017-04-21 07:01:34 PM  

Gordon Bennett: That's all Fox's fault if they offered him a contract without a standard morals clause.


Considering who Conservatives supported in the recent election, O'Reilly was in the clear.
 
2017-04-21 07:17:26 PM  

pkjun: That's $40M to Ailes for harassing women, $25M to O'Reilly for harassing women, and $20M in hush money to all the various women who threatened to go public over the decade and a half Fox was covering it up.

Fox has paid out $85M over its grope culture. Of that money, $65M went to the harassers themselves.

Or to put it another way, 76.4% of Fox's payouts have gone to the men who groped and intimidated their employees, and 24.4% of the payouts have gone to the women who were groped and intimidated by their rich and powerful bosses.

Cool.

And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.- President Donald J Trump


I was wondering about that.It appears that O'Reilly got more money for harassing women then Gretchen Carleson got for being a harassment victim. That makes no sense. It seems if she really wanted to get a big payday from FOX she would have been better off if she had just started to sexually harass people herself.
 
2017-04-22 12:47:08 AM  
Well done good and faithful servant.

Love, Ailes, Murdoch and Trump

P.S. Keep your big yap shut. You never saw nuttin'. OJ, Kanyé. and Steve Garvey send their love. BC says hi! ho!
 
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