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(Washington Post)   Trump: "Luciano Pavarotti's a friend of mine, great friend of mine". Fark; Pavarotti died in 2007   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-04-21 01:17:01 AM  
47 votes:
Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.
2017-04-21 01:23:55 AM  
38 votes:
Given what he's done, I'm not ever going to actually feel bad for him, but honestly it is pretty sad.  Like not FOR him.  But in a general human sense, just seeing it.  Knowing it happens to other, worthwhile people.  I miss you still, Sir Pratchett.
2017-04-21 07:02:02 AM  
35 votes:

skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.


He's exactly what poor white people imagine how a rich person should live.
2017-04-21 07:21:56 AM  
33 votes:

bonobo73: ftv: "...Pavarotti, a friend of mine, a great friend of mine,..."

No present tense (or any tense), no foul.

Thanks wapost, subby and mods for greenlighting a big bag of nothing.


That's because Trump doesn't speak English like a normal adult.  I'm much more likely to believe that Trump is lying and has no idea that Pavarotti is dead as opposed to him speaking in a more general sense that they were once great friends.

I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.  I bet Trump would have said Pavarotti called him to congratulate him on winning the election and telling him it was glorious how Trump got 306 electoral votes when nobody thought it was possible.
2017-04-21 06:57:58 AM  
31 votes:
He just makes shiat up when he doesn't know what to say.

It's always something like:
Good friend, amazing people, a truly fantastic plan, a really really super something something... And then he doesn't say anything specific that proves he knows what the fark he's talking about.
2017-04-21 08:02:09 AM  
29 votes:

draconian: You farking idiots sure do not like context, leaving out how he is talking about Italy's history of artistic achievement...and I guess stop calling a person a friend after they die. Such cold-hearted ignoramuses.


The issue is he has to insert himself into every situation to make himself look good.  He can't just say that Italy has a historical tradition of artistic achievement stretching from the Renaissance to modern masters such as Pavarotti, or maybe name check a current Italian artist.   He has to show that the most popular tenor of a generation acknowledged His greatness.  he's a starfarker, pure and simple.
2017-04-21 08:41:50 AM  
28 votes:
Putting aside that he possibly doesn't understand verb tense... lets talk about his childish need to make everything about him.  Italian history of artistic achievement, yes, that's the perfect time to talk about himself.

There are zero images of Trump and Pavarotti standing together.  It's unlikely they ever met, or that Trump ever even attended one of his concerts.  Considering that Pavarotti was one of the most photographed men in the world, and that Donald once crashed a fundraiser to sit on stage with the primary donors without making a significant donation himself, I find it inconceivable that they met without attention whore Donny having a picture taken.

His widow and three daughters sent the following letter to Trump's campaign, because they wanted him to stop playing a Pavarotti Nessum Dorma recording.   "[T]he values of brotherhood and solidarity that Luciano Pavarotti upheld throughout his artistic career are incompatible with the world vision of the candidate Donald Trump."
2017-04-21 01:32:02 AM  
26 votes:
The 45th President of the United States everyone.

The man can't stop telling lies.


He can't farking help himself.

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2017-04-21 07:40:27 AM  
25 votes:
So close that Pavarotti's family wanted Trump to stop using his music.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-pavarotti-trump-idUSKC​N​1012T0
2017-04-21 06:01:01 AM  
24 votes:
I guess that claiming to be a personal friend of someone who's been dead for 10 years is an improvement over claiming to be a friend of one who's been dead for nearly 2,000
2017-04-21 07:59:56 AM  
23 votes:
Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.
2017-04-21 07:52:29 AM  
23 votes:

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


It's not reaching.

My wife's father has been dead for about the same amount of time as Pavarotti. Not once has anyone who knew him said "is" when referring to him since his death, not even the stupidest people.
I've never said Abraham Lincoln is a great man, but I've said was plenty of times.
There is no way any reasonable person can conclude anything except that Trump is a bold-faced liar (my personal take) or senile/demented (also my personal take).
But Trump didn't win the election off of votes from reasonable people, so I'm sure he doesn't give any more farks about this than any other bullshiat he's spewed in the past.
2017-04-21 08:17:14 AM  
19 votes:

Officer Barrelroll: bonobo73: ftv: "...Pavarotti, a friend of mine, a great friend of mine,..."

No present tense (or any tense), no foul.

Thanks wapost, subby and mods for greenlighting a big bag of nothing.

That's because Trump doesn't speak English like a normal adult.  I'm much more likely to believe that Trump is lying and has no idea that Pavarotti is dead as opposed to him speaking in a more general sense that they were once great friends.

I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.  I bet Trump would have said Pavarotti called him to congratulate him on winning the election and telling him it was glorious how Trump got 306 electoral votes when nobody thought it was possible.


People need to start doing this. Giving him enough rope to hang himself.
2017-04-21 07:23:02 AM  
19 votes:
So when meeting with a foreign head of state, he was literally, "I have an Italian friend"?

I don't... ah. I just. Wow.
2017-04-21 06:00:47 AM  
17 votes:
A preposterous and ridiculous statement.  Everyone knows Trump doesn't have friends.
2017-04-21 06:19:32 AM  
15 votes:

alphabravo42: skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.

Funnily enough Bill Clinton used those.

https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2017/02/06/trump-gold-drapes-ova​l-office/21708101/


Bill Clinton grew up in a trailer park. What's Little Lord Trumpleroy's excuse?
2017-04-21 07:13:54 AM  
12 votes:
ftv: "...Pavarotti, a friend of mine, a great friend of mine,..."

No present tense (or any tense), no foul.

Thanks wapost, subby and mods for greenlighting a big bag of nothing.
2017-04-21 06:03:22 AM  
12 votes:
This just proves the theory that Trump is actually a time traveler.  In Trump's time, Pavarotti is still alive.

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2017-04-21 10:04:17 AM  
11 votes:
Not friends.

Pavarotti Widow Tells Trump to Stop Using 'Nessun Dorma' in Campaign, NBC News, 7/22/16
"Luciano Pavarotti's widow has told Donald Trump to stop playing the tenor's most famous aria at campaign events, saying the billionaire's values are 'incompatible' with the world's most recognized opera singer."

The Long Goodbye, The Guardian Observer, 5/19/02
"A while ago, Donald Trump engaged Pavarotti for a concert at one of his Atlantic City casinos. He appeared, squawked a few Neapolitan songs, and left even the musically undemanding punters who had wandered in from the gaming tables so disgruntled that Trump demanded the return of his fee."

Here's hoping the widow comes out and makes a statement again.
2017-04-21 09:32:31 AM  
11 votes:

clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]


I mentioned this in the Sarah Palin thread, but is anyone else flinching when they see Ted and Kid Rock wearing hats in the Oval Office?

Because I'm terrified that my Grandma is going to rise from the grave to slap the sh*t out of me for just LOOKING at such a thing, let alone contemplating it on my own.

For folks who seem to get outraged at "disrespecting the office" with shoes and the like, folks seem to be awfully quiet about folks putting their feet on the upholstery and otherwise treating the Oval Office like a prop at the Chucky Cheese on Wiltshire and Pismo.
2017-04-21 09:31:15 AM  
10 votes:

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Pointy Tail of Satan: Sure, Trump talks to Pavarotti all the time.....

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But the Bible thumpers lurv him.

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Well, supposedly, the anti-christ WILL fool most of the people who claim to be christian into following him.
2017-04-21 06:02:17 AM  
10 votes:
Oh am I tired of winning.
2017-04-21 08:38:29 AM  
9 votes:
The real scandal is that Trump is the type of vapid fool who thinks every rich person or celebrity he ever met is his friend.

It's like the guy I knew in college who said he had over 100 friends (long before Facebook) and would try to go to any party he heard of to "make cameos". You shallow twat, you don't have ANY friends. Not real ones. People who just gladhand you and smile for 5 minutes are acquaintances.
2017-04-21 09:16:50 AM  
8 votes:

starsrift: Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?

They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.


Opinions like this are why journalism is dying.

Asking a follow up is not "provoking," it's doing their f*cking job. The press isn't supposed to just blindly accept anything.
2017-04-21 08:43:42 AM  
8 votes:
Best friend (as in bought the tux I can still [barely] fit in to stand up front in his wedding to the girl I talked into saying yes to his first date request) died in hospice after fighting cancer for 15 years. We started using "was" about an hour before the last heartbeat.

I call complete and utter bullshiat.
2017-04-21 07:57:41 AM  
8 votes:

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


You used past tense in your example...Trump didn't and that is the problem.
2017-04-21 07:54:54 AM  
8 votes:

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


You used the past tense.
Trump used word salad, so who knows what he was trying to say.
Do we know if Trump and Pavarotti ever even met?
2017-04-21 07:26:21 AM  
8 votes:
Exactly, that makes him the perfect friend because he's no longer alive to refute the friendship.
2017-04-21 07:08:42 AM  
8 votes:
Idiot.
2017-04-21 08:50:57 AM  
7 votes:

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.


I kind of hate these stories. They do show a troubling greater trend, which should be documented and accurately portrayed in books/movies, but they are easy to dismiss individually by supporters.

There are real issues and concerns that we should maintain focus on.   The tax documents, is important, but feels like screaming Benghazi.  The Nepatism and appointing under qualified people to made up positions. The ties to Russia, and Russian social engineering to influence the election toward Trump, is real and significant.  We should maintain focus on that until the other side is sick of hearing about it, and possibly begins to question their opinions.  Harping on Benghazi and Emails had made Hillary unlikeable, even to people who found no fault in what she did.
2017-04-21 08:25:50 AM  
7 votes:

Circusdog320: Doesnt Luciano hang out with Fredrick Douglass?


Amazingly applicable:
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2017-04-21 08:05:04 AM  
6 votes:

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.


Nah, he does this crap all the time.  During the campaign he went to Pittsburgh, asked how Joe Paterno was doing, and said he was close personal friends with Tom Brady.  I'm sure he had similar fark ups in other cities, this is just the one I'm familiar with.

At least Pavarotti is too busy being dead to call him on his bullshiat.  He tried this with Steeler QB Ben Roethlisberger  and Big Ben shut him down almost instantly.
2017-04-21 06:01:09 AM  
6 votes:

clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]


Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
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2017-04-21 09:25:14 AM  
5 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.


I don't think it sounds like senility or dementia at all. He's just a liar and bullshiatter and thinks he's much better at bluffing his way into appearing knowledgeable than he is.
2017-04-21 07:56:17 AM  
5 votes:
He knows one farking thing about Italian culture, and that guy died 10 years ago.
2017-04-21 06:36:21 AM  
5 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
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You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.


But they wore their 'coolest' hats and stuff!

farkin' douchebags
2017-04-21 05:56:16 AM  
5 votes:
Wait til he finds out this guy is also no longer with us:

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2017-04-21 03:23:23 AM  
5 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: The 45th President of the United States everyone.

The man can't stop telling lies.

He can't farking help himself.

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Worst president ever on Google:

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2017-04-21 09:45:07 AM  
4 votes:

Pandora's Litterbox: Is this what will finally get Ryan and the Turtle to pull the trigger on impeachment?


Don't they have enough ammo already?
During the Song In Praise of The Wonderful Chocolate CakeTM, Trump boasts about how he just dropped a bunch of bombs on Iraq...
when their actual destination and where they went BOOM was SYRIA.

Does anyone else find that kind of carelessness terrifying?
2017-04-21 09:26:16 AM  
4 votes:

doomjesse: Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.

Who says you have to be competent (mentally or otherwise) to be president?  I might be wrong, but I'm not aware of any mental fitness test for President.  On top of that the only way to remove him (because I doubt his ego would let him resign) is impeachment.  At this point, he'd basically have to go on national tv and give a state of the union address saying he had slept with each congressman's spouse while robbing the Treasury, giving Putin free reign to use our military, nuking Israel to get impeached.  So now we find the fatal flaw in the Constitution.  The founders never expected an egomaniac with mental health problems could be elected so they didn't really put in a viable way of removing him.


25th Amendment states that if the VP and Congress decide that the President can't do they job, they can remove him.  It's a higher bar votewise than impeachment, but it's probably politically less poisonous.

It's been deliberately invoked three times (once by Reagan, twice by W, both times due to hospitalization), and considered twice as well (both under Reagan), so it's not unprecedented.  In all of those cases it was temporary, but a President with severe dementia would be untenable as a symbol of leadership.
2017-04-21 09:25:08 AM  
4 votes:

sauce_jenkins: Watched video a couple of times. I'm no Trumpet, but it doesn't really seem to imply that he thinks Pavarotti is still alive. In fact, he seems cognizant and respectful of the fact he's gone. Attacks like this dilute the real concerns about Trump's leadership and these sorts of assumptions delegitimize any valid complaints about him and his administration


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2017-04-21 08:48:41 AM  
4 votes:

kokomo61: EbolaNYC: skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.

He's exactly what poor white people imagine how a rich person should live.

Or what a hobo imagines a rich man to be.

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My friend grew up in poverty, and ended up making average to good money.  Her house is decorated in the tackiest manner possible.  Walls of mirrors, lots of gold trim, and overly ornate details.  Looks like a low budget interior from a Newport Mansion, inside a ranch house.
2017-04-21 08:46:23 AM  
4 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]

You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.


Because etiquette but I guess all 4 of those people have no idea what that is so that is what you get.
2017-04-21 07:06:05 AM  
4 votes:
I for one look forward to Donny being reunited with his old friend.

Cant happen soon enough IMO.
2017-04-21 06:40:21 AM  
4 votes:
Bull. I heard him sing on XMRadio classical channel just a couple days ago.
2017-04-21 06:02:40 AM  
4 votes:
You farking idiots sure do not like context, leaving out how he is talking about Italy's history of artistic achievement...and I guess stop calling a person a friend after they die. Such cold-hearted ignoramuses.
2017-04-21 04:10:50 PM  
3 votes:

draconian: Atomsk: draconian: whargarrbl

Eheheh... okay, I'm walking away...yet im going to give a long post with links to fake stories I believed to be true and act as if its proof.

Fixed that for you.

Also, Soros is a go to for Alex Jones people, not everyone that disagrees with you...but thanks for proving you are what you say you hate Mr Labels.


....actually, you kinda proved EXACTLY what Atomsk said you would do....if you had read the rest of the post.
Sweeping stuff under the rug & saying "That's that!" sure is a lot easier than actually analyzing & disputing each example, hunh?  Is the art of the debate truly dead?
2017-04-21 02:10:11 PM  
3 votes:

draconian: Atomsk:Congrats on your 5th grade reading comprehension fail.

Say the person demanding evidence of friendship to help prop up this fake news based on nothing...

This shiat is getting ridiculous. If Trump says he breathes clean air, are you people going to demand medical exams showing that his lungs are actually taking it in? 

This is Fox News level horseshiat.


Wow, you're seriously triggered, aren't you? I'm not asserting anything at all, nor am I demanding anything. These are the facts:

1) Trump called Pavarotti "a great friend". He did not say "is", he did not say "was". Aside from reading into the statement, objectively there is no determining way to say whether Trump means they ARE or they WERE, only that, at some point in time, they were great friends. I can't say whether he doesn't know Pavarotti is dead or not. And, so you can accept this point I'll say it one more time, I do not care.

2) If we are to take Trump at his word, from 2001 and from this recent comment, they were "great friends". Trump has proven repeatedly that he lies and/or doesn't understand fairly basic concepts (who knew healthcare was difficult? who knew thousands of years of history between two countries was so complicated?). So we can't just blindly accept when he makes claims like this.

3) Due to the above fact, I asked if there were other sources outside of Trump himself to verify their friendship. I said that it seems at least a little odd that so far, outside of the article you reference which again is based on Trump's word, no one has really given any other sources. No pictures, no comments from Pavarotti, no additional comments from Trump, no comments from either of their families about a great friendship, no references about either of them being close -- from 2001 to 2017. 16 years that two globally-known individuals were apparently close friends and there's only two instances to verify this, both coming from a man who is a proven liar.

Is this important? shiat no. But you seemed... passionate about defending him. I said "Okay, maybe they were great friends. Is there anything other than just his own word that shows this?" aaaaaaand you decide I've gone off the deep end of bought into it whole-heartedly and that I'm flailing about in an overreactive tizzy. Just because I asked "Is there more?"

And actually yes, I would want to have Trump take a medical exam, considering his utterly laughable "bill of health" from Dr. Drake "The Waddler" Quack. Especially about clean air, since Trump believes asbestos is not harmful.

Oh and if you actually do find anything else to show they were "great friends" such as quotes from either man, their relatives, their friends, their employees, other celebrities, if you find a few pictures, hell if you hit the jackpot and find video of them chumming it up -- anything other than the 2001 article, then sure, I can believe it.

I'm propping up nothing whatsoever. What if I phrased it differently? What if I said "Oh man, that's so cool that they were so close! That must have been fun to see them hang out together! Are there any pictures?? Or video??" would you react the same way? Asking for more sources but positively rather than objectively?

It's not a hard question, but, somehow, I don't think your answer will be satisfactory.
2017-04-21 01:02:31 PM  
3 votes:

draconian: SpectroBoy: A normal person would know his friends was dead so either

A) Trump wasn't really his friend and was LYING (as usual)
or
B) Trump is so pants-on-head retarded he doesn't understand verb tenses.

Which one of those makes him worth defending?

Incorrect. A normal person would keep context and not sound like a total idiot. 

A) Trump spoke of him being a friend in 2001, proof already given via a LIBERAL news site.
thus showing you and MSM making fake news again about him lying.
B) No "tense" was given for him to be incorrect.
thus showing you need to rethink who is pants on head retarded. Hint: look in a mirror.


So in 2001, Trump called Pavarotti a friend. Okay... Do we know if Pavarotti ever said anything similar about Trump? Personally, I really don't care whether or not he knows Pavarotti is dead, I'm not going to debate whether "is" is implied or not, I'm not gonna handwave it away and say "It's absolutely nothing, it's reaching" when there's other evidence of him appearing to have... memory/perception problems that are much worse, I'm also not going to say this is any kind of serious definitive proof of senility.

Trump said Pavarotti was a "great friend" in 2001. According to him, they interacted backstage, etc. Is there anything beyond just this event where they interacted to make them "great friends" or can we take Trump's word as (what appears to be the only source) they really did meet at the event described. Does anyone say anywhere else they were friends? At any point? Did Trump? Did Pavarotti? Anyone in their circles? Any other references? Obviously there's not going to be documentaries and in-depth news stories about the bromance between the two, but between that article and Trump's recent comment, is there anything else at all? They are/were both internationally known figures so I find it exceptionally hard to believe that there wouldn't be at least a dozen or so more connections over the years, especially given how they were apparently such "great friends".

It seems, for now, that we have Trump's quote from 2001 and his comment now as proof they were friends. That's all. We have Trump's word that they were great friends.

And that, as he has repeatedly demonstrated a countless number of times just this month,is not enough. In fact, his word means nothing at all.
2017-04-21 12:50:04 PM  
3 votes:

bingo the psych-o: [vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x244]

RIP Pavarotti.  I knew him well.


If you're gonna use Brian Blessed, this one looks more like an opera.
media.gizmodo.co.uk
2017-04-21 12:15:51 PM  
3 votes:

draconian: You farking idiots sure do not like context, leaving out how he is talking about Italy's history of artistic achievement...and I guess stop calling a person a friend after they die. Such cold-hearted ignoramuses.


A normal person would know his friends was dead so either

A) Trump wasn't really his friend and was LYING (as usual)
or
B) Trump is so pants-on-head retarded he doesn't understand verb tenses.

Which one of those makes him worth defending?
2017-04-21 10:27:33 AM  
3 votes:

NakedReporta: Not friends.

Pavarotti Widow Tells Trump to Stop Using 'Nessun Dorma' in Campaign, NBC News, 7/22/16
"Luciano Pavarotti's widow has told Donald Trump to stop playing the tenor's most famous aria at campaign events, saying the billionaire's values are 'incompatible' with the world's most recognized opera singer."

The Long Goodbye, The Guardian Observer, 5/19/02
"A while ago, Donald Trump engaged Pavarotti for a concert at one of his Atlantic City casinos. He appeared, squawked a few Neapolitan songs, and left even the musically undemanding punters who had wandered in from the gaming tables so disgruntled that Trump demanded the return of his fee."

Here's hoping the widow comes out and makes a statement again.


"My husband's been dead for a decade, you name-dropping nincompoop. How 'bout you stop pissing on his grave, Lord Dampnut?"

I'd pay to hear her say that to him.
2017-04-21 09:51:12 AM  
3 votes:

starsrift: grumpfuff: starsrift: Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?

They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.

Opinions like this are why journalism is dying.

Asking a follow up is not "provoking," it's doing their f*cking job. The press isn't supposed to just blindly accept anything.

Trying to lure a public figure into a mis-statement instead of asking a well-intentioned question with a reason behind it that has the side effect of the subject farking up - "Which newspapers do you read?" - are two different things.
It's kind of like the difference between trolling and merely holding a different opinion. One is done in good faith, one is not.


If Donald doesn't want to be questioned about his relationship with [person], he can simply not mention that person. Asking follow-ups on something Donald brought up is absolutely the job of the press, even if its embarrassing.

If Donald says he has a great friendship with John Wayne, should the press just smile and nod about that too? Your argument is essentially "Truth is not as important as avoiding embarrassing the president." Sorry, that's bullsh*t.
2017-04-21 09:44:42 AM  
3 votes:

Lee Jackson Beauregard: But the Bible thumpers lurv him.


I wonder if they are still going to lurv him when their bibles become the only form of healthcare they can afford?
2017-04-21 08:53:23 AM  
3 votes:

TNel: ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]

You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.

Because etiquette but I guess all 4 of those people have no idea what that is so that is what you get.


I don't subscribe to the 'never wear a hat indoors' thing, but this is the farking White House. Make an effort!
2017-04-21 08:33:57 AM  
3 votes:

Pointy Tail of Satan: Sure, Trump talks to Pavarotti all the time.....

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x180]


But the Bible thumpers lurv him.

img.fark.net
2017-04-21 06:47:50 AM  
3 votes:
STFU DONNY!!!
2017-04-21 06:07:55 AM  
3 votes:
I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.
2017-04-21 06:06:53 AM  
3 votes:

lucksi: Does this mean Opera Man is coming back to SNL?

But yeah, call that guy your friend. Not likely that he'll rise from the dead to dispute your "facts"


I think I might come back just to refute that statement.
2017-04-21 10:13:27 PM  
2 votes:
I gotta admit... "Trump's not really that bad, I mean, look at Eisenhower or Kennedy!" is a new one.

I'm not sure whether to tip my glass in admiration or drain it in despair.
2017-04-21 07:40:22 PM  
2 votes:
He was just confused because of the Pavarotti hologram at Coachella.
2017-04-21 04:08:46 PM  
2 votes:

draconian: Or how about this one that went on for some 2 months...only to be true in the end.


You mean how it was shown that Trump's allies and members of his election team were caught up in FBI warrants in place to monitor the Russians? Actions that Obama had nothing to do with and were common practice in trying to track traitors??

This is very far from Trump's claim that Obama was wiretapping his phone.
2017-04-21 03:42:59 PM  
2 votes:
draconian: whargarrbl

Eheheh... okay, I'm walking away. You haven't answered a single thing and have done nothing but spin, deflect, and pathetically try to smoke bomb. Trump was absolutely wrong about the wiretapping. He said his phones in Trump Tower were tapped. Absolutely not true. Were people working in his campaign "wiretapped"? Yes, so to speak. Intelligence was gathered on them via a legally (and difficultly) obtained warrant. Trump Tower? No. I mean, the topic is "Donald Trump was great friends with Pavarotti." I asked "Is there more than one source for this?" and you then claimed I believe everything the "fake media" is feeding me and that I'm frothing at the mouth to say/believe anything negative about Trump. Just a slight overreaction on your part, because I said "pics?"

Donald Trump lies. All the time. He is a proven, repetitive, compulsive, and rather poor, liar:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-media-terrorism-lies-muslims-travel-ban​-​list-553923
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/opinion/all-the-presidents-lies.ht​m​l?_r=0
https://mic.com/articles/168888/here-are-the-5-biggest-lies-from-dona​l​d-trump-s-bizarre-press-conference#.yXKIPxrPE
http://www.factcheck.org/person/donald-trump/
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/06/white-house-promises-provide-l​i​st-support-trumps-lie-terror-attacks-unreported.html
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byrul​i​ng/false/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-l​i​st?utm_term=.qtDv05oMw#.hsjkOBMxy
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/04/11/daniel-dales-donald-tru​m​p-fact-check-updates.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims/?utm_te​r​m=.dfe8a993cdf9

Now okay, I'm sure you'll counter that all of these sources are just MSM liberal bullcrap, that they're "cucks" for being bought by "Soros and the Deep State" (I saw them open at the Troubadour last fall, they were fantastic), you may even toss the word "sheeple" in there somewhere. Feel free, I can safely ignore you now, knowing exactly how you operate.

Last thing though. Hypothetical: You and a friend are watching basketball and Lebron James is onscreen.

Your friend: Oh man, 'Bron is a great friend, man, a great friend. Remember that picture I showed you like, 15 years ago? The one me with me and LBJ?
You: The meet-and-greet one...?
Your friend: Best friends man, we bros. It wasn't just the one time, too. We hang out all the time, like every week. I went to the club with him last night!
You: Really...? Can I see pictures?
Your friend: Get out of my house, I never want to see you again.

Does this seem reasonable?

Anyway, I won't bother looking for your reply since it'll contain nothing but more embarrassing impotence. I'm glad we had this little chat though. Now I know to just keep scrolling whenever I see your name, confident that nothing of value was lost. Thanks man!
2017-04-21 02:49:49 PM  
2 votes:

whitroth: Yeah, well, Ben Franklin is a friend of *mine*, Mr. Trump... and he does SCIENCE!


So, Jeremiah was a good friend of mine and he was a BULLFROG! He always had some mighty fine wine, then something about joy and boys and girls...this is starting to sound pedo'y...getting drunk with kids WTF is wrong with this song...
2017-04-21 02:41:05 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah, well, Ben Franklin is a friend of *mine*, Mr. Trump... and he does SCIENCE!
2017-04-21 01:37:16 PM  
2 votes:

draconian: Atomsk:So in 2001, Trump called Pavarotti a friend. Okay... Do we know if Pavarotti ever said anything similar about Trump? Personally, I really don't care whether or not he knows Pavarotti is dead, I'm not going to debate whether "is" is implied or not

He...did...not...say...the...word...is.

No tense, past, present or future was used. Congrats on soaking up fake news.


Wow. You utterly missed my point. I said I wasn't going to debate it because I don't care whether "is" should be there or not. The entire point of my post was saying that if he considerED him a friend in the past, and the sentiment was mutual, is there any other proof besides just Trump's word in one article. Nothing whatsoever about whether Trump knows Pavarotti is dead or not.

You somehow completely missed everything else I said and focused on a detail I said I didn't care about, which must have really taken a good amount of effort.

Congrats on your 5th grade reading comprehension fail.
2017-04-21 11:43:06 AM  
2 votes:

draconian: Garbage like this is why I left the left. Seems like the entire liberal world has gone the way of the Tea Party in their idiocy, ranting and raving.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/11/nyregion/music-review-at-casino-pava​rotti-comes-back.html

From Feb 2001
"Luciano is a great friend. I don't get angry at my friends.''


bullshiat
2017-04-21 10:47:00 AM  
2 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]

You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.


Emily Post here to help you; looks like they ignored three separate reasons
http://emilypost.com/advice/hats-off-hat-etiquette-for-everyone/

Take hats off, including baseball caps ...
In someone's home
At mealtimes, at the table
While being introduced, indoors or out (unless it's frigid!)
In a house of worship, unless a hat or head covering is required
Indoors at work, especially in an office (unless required for the job)
In public buildings such as a school, library, courthouse, or town hall

In restaurants and coffee shops
At a movie or any indoor performance
When the national anthem is played
When the flag of the United States passes by, as in a parade
2017-04-21 10:00:02 AM  
2 votes:
Luciano married hotter.

media.gettyimages.comoperachic.typepad.com
2017-04-21 09:49:45 AM  
2 votes:
If you listen carefully, he doesn't say  "Luciano Pavarotti's a friend of mine, great friend of mine". He doesn't use the present tense. He starts the sentence with "Through the ages" and said "to Luciano Pavarotti, a friend of mine, great friend of mine". He could have easily been talking in the past tense. I get the joke, but there are many other opportunities to make fun of him for quotes that are accurate.
2017-04-21 09:36:57 AM  
2 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: Given what he's done, I'm not ever going to actually feel bad for him, but honestly it is pretty sad.  Like not FOR him.  But in a general human sense, just seeing it.  Knowing it happens to other, worthwhile people.  I miss you still, Sir Pratchett.


"A man is not dead as long as his name is still spoken."
Sir Terry Pratchett

Thanks for helping keep one of the Good Guys alive...in a sense.
2017-04-21 09:00:30 AM  
2 votes:
Watched video a couple of times. I'm no Trumpet, but it doesn't really seem to imply that he thinks Pavarotti is still alive. In fact, he seems cognizant and respectful of the fact he's gone. Attacks like this dilute the real concerns about Trump's leadership and these sorts of assumptions delegitimize any valid complaints about him and his administration
2017-04-21 08:54:55 AM  
2 votes:

clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]


Fake News!  Trump knows how to read.

img.fark.net
2017-04-21 08:54:02 AM  
2 votes:

Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?


They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.
2017-04-21 08:45:52 AM  
2 votes:
Could he be more robotic reading that speech?  Siri has more emotion.  He sounds like my 7 year old reading, same cadence and zero inflection.
2017-04-21 08:40:14 AM  
2 votes:

Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.


Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?
2017-04-21 08:37:57 AM  
2 votes:
He didn't mean Pavarotti. He meant Paganini.

2.bp.blogspot.com
2017-04-21 08:23:42 AM  
2 votes:

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.


Who says you have to be competent (mentally or otherwise) to be president?  I might be wrong, but I'm not aware of any mental fitness test for President.  On top of that the only way to remove him (because I doubt his ego would let him resign) is impeachment.  At this point, he'd basically have to go on national tv and give a state of the union address saying he had slept with each congressman's spouse while robbing the Treasury, giving Putin free reign to use our military, nuking Israel to get impeached.  So now we find the fatal flaw in the Constitution.  The founders never expected an egomaniac with mental health problems could be elected so they didn't really put in a viable way of removing him.
2017-04-21 07:38:17 AM  
2 votes:
When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.
2017-04-21 06:27:38 AM  
2 votes:

draconian: You farking idiots sure do not like context, leaving out how he is talking about Italy's history of artistic achievement...and I guess stop calling a person a friend after they die. Such cold-hearted ignoramuses.


Like normal people, yes.

/"Alas, poor Yorick! I knewknow him, Horatio...".
2017-04-21 06:25:39 AM  
2 votes:

EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]


You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.
2017-04-21 04:18:12 AM  
2 votes:
eh, Trump was probably thinking Enrico Palazzo anyways.
2017-04-21 01:29:20 AM  
2 votes:
Doesnt Luciano hang out with Fredrick Douglass?
2017-04-21 11:51:32 PM  
1 vote:
Okay, ya'll forced me to watch the video. The word "is" isn't there. But he does seem clueless to his passing... so he couldn't be that great of a friend for not saying "I hope he's resting in peace" or something indicating knowing it.

He was reading, recognized the name and claimed great friendship. Just another in a long line of lies.

On a far related note: Trumps great friend's wife tells Trump to stop using his music. Saying "the billionaire's values are "incompatible" with the world's most recognized opera singer". But then, she's is a "money mad wife" as Pavarotti put it.

I think we found Trumps 4th wife.
2017-04-21 08:55:17 PM  
1 vote:
syzygy whizz: Don't they have enough ammo already?
______________________________________________________________________​____________
I was aiming for "sardonic".
I'm glad to see 6 people took it in the manner in which it was intended.

______________________________________________________________________​______________

syzygy whizz: Does anyone else find that kind of carelessness terrifying?

I'm trying to think of anything this administration has done to date or is publicly (and sometimes, not-so-publicly) talking of doing that I don't find to be absolutely maddening or soul-hurting or confidence-shattering.

/remember when the President wasn't either malicious or stupid or just an outright putz deluxe. *sigh* Good times.
2017-04-21 07:38:45 PM  
1 vote:

LowbrowDeluxe: Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.


Spicer? I want Impaler to show us what Snekretary will say about it.
2017-04-21 06:09:54 PM  
1 vote:
The more this presidency goes on, the more I think of this comic.  It's like we elected a much cruder, bullying, and sociopathic version of Dan Quayle.

i.kinja-img.com
2017-04-21 05:45:31 PM  
1 vote:

draconian: Farking Canuck: draconian: No, that was CNNs spin to create fake news.

You really like the taste of that cool-aid.

Yet amazingly how that link of theirs has a long story saying one thing, while the actual truth of it being illegal, is a tiny little blurb in the same article.

Funny thing about that cool-aid expression is that most of those that drank it, didnt know what was in it and thus had no idea they were going to be a cool-aid drinker...I dont expect you to get it.


This is performance art, right?  That's the only possible excuse for doing Trump's 'I just learned this fact, which means no one else must've ever heard it' schtick.
2017-04-21 03:34:58 PM  
1 vote:
I've noticed the same treatment of Presidents.

Republicans: Evil, Stupid.

Democrats: Presidential, bastions of democracy and class.

Trump is awesome. I love seeing you guys go crazy over him. Was even more fun when I saw fark lose it's collective shiat on election night.


These are the words of a totally legitimate and real poster and not at all a lonely person provoking reactions in the only way that they know how in a desperate attempt for some validation.
2017-04-21 02:54:10 PM  
1 vote:

draconian: Or how about this one that went on for some 2 months...only to be true in the end.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


*breathe*


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2017-04-21 01:11:13 PM  
1 vote:

Thank You Black Jesus!: rnatalie: I'm still surprised he didn't say "Dong, Where is my automobile?" to Xi.

"Automobile?"


Lake...Big Lake.
2017-04-21 01:07:12 PM  
1 vote:

rnatalie: I'm still surprised he didn't say "Dong, Where is my automobile?" to Xi.


"Automobile?"
2017-04-21 12:43:12 PM  
1 vote:

draconian: Incorrect. A normal person would keep context and not sound like a total idiot.


img.fark.net
2017-04-21 10:49:29 AM  
1 vote:
Maybe Trump knew he was dead, maybe he didn't, but giving him the benefit of the doubt was thrown out the window years ago because everything he's ever said in his life is complete and utter bullshiat. So there's that.

/except the daughter farking
2017-04-21 10:25:05 AM  
1 vote:

skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.


Yeah, just like that tacky gold shiat in trump tower.
2017-04-21 09:49:47 AM  
1 vote:
I hate Trump.

That said, calling someone "a great friend of mine," even though they are deceased, is not that uncommon.

It's quite possible Trump knows fully well that Pavarotti is dead, and thus unable to dispute the notion of such a friendship.

So really, what folks should be focusing on is whether Trump ever met or even knew Pavarotti.
2017-04-21 09:44:24 AM  
1 vote:
Saying "I'm friends with him" when the guy is dead means that you can argue "I still consider him a friend, so I didn't use past tense", and since the guy is dead, there is no risk that the guy will turn up on the news saying "Friends?  That's bullshiat.  The guy owes me money and I hate everything about him".
2017-04-21 09:36:08 AM  
1 vote:

grumpfuff: starsrift: Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?

They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.

Opinions like this are why journalism is dying.

Asking a follow up is not "provoking," it's doing their f*cking job. The press isn't supposed to just blindly accept anything.


Trying to lure a public figure into a mis-statement instead of asking a well-intentioned question with a reason behind it that has the side effect of the subject farking up - "Which newspapers do you read?" - are two different things.
It's kind of like the difference between trolling and merely holding a different opinion. One is done in good faith, one is not.
2017-04-21 09:24:15 AM  
1 vote:

LowbrowDeluxe: Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.


img.fark.net

MOAR!
2017-04-21 08:41:15 AM  
1 vote:
Has anyone found a photo of Trump and Pavarotti?
2017-04-21 08:34:11 AM  
1 vote:
Ok, can we just accept an axiom and move on? Trump and the truth and reality haven't seen one another in years. He reminds me of the kid I knew in grade school who swore as the gospel truth that his dad let him fly his F-4E Phantom II on weekends.
2017-04-21 08:12:26 AM  
1 vote:

Fury Pilot: Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.

You used the past tense.
Trump used word salad, so who knows what he was trying to say.
Do we know if Trump and Pavarotti ever even met?


Weren't they on the same tv show once (different segments) transmitted from different countries, but they met...ohh wait, that was Putin.  Never mind!
2017-04-21 07:21:55 AM  
1 vote:
"I never understood a single word he said but I helped him drink his wine. He always had some mighty fine wine." ~ trump
2017-04-21 06:59:07 AM  
1 vote:
Dumb? Senile? Or just thinking all Eye-ties know each other?
2017-04-21 06:43:51 AM  
1 vote:
Pavrotti is not dead. Like Elvis, he just went back to his home planet.
2017-04-21 06:24:06 AM  
1 vote:
Pavarotti was seen with Jim Morrison on the streets last week.
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
2017-04-21 05:47:53 AM  
1 vote:
He's just remembering Pavarotti when he'd turn into Captain Chaos to outwit the socialists in that documentary about the nationwide race.
 
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