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2017-04-21 08:21:09 AM  

chewd: Bring it on, i recommend you start with the east coast & work your way west.


Well that doesn't make any sense.  From westernmost China to easternmost (Continental) US is 9,962 km, while easternmost China to westernmost (Continental) US is only 6,885 km.  Ya start closest and move outward.
 
2017-04-21 08:24:32 AM  
Tillerson cannot even pronounce Pyongyang correctly? Seriously? "Pongyang"?

Jeeze-oh-pete what the hell?
 
2017-04-21 08:47:41 AM  

Ghastly: Sabres ain't gonna rattle themselves.


Time to brush up on Mandarin Chinese?
 
2017-04-21 08:50:27 AM  
Because we all gotta die sometime.... Right?
Trump's tiny finger pushs the button onNK
 
2017-04-21 08:51:44 AM  

foxyshadis: Sid_6.7: F*ck Donald Trump.

I'm pretty sure China is a lot more worried about their own cities as targets than about starting Korean War act 2. It's very much up in the air which side they would take if open hostilities broke out; they have lots of competing interests and really, really want the status quo to remain. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to assassinate the problem away.


Yep, note that the article contains no statements from the Chinese about what they might do if Trump does something.  That suggest they're probably threatening someone else.
 
2017-04-21 08:53:02 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Up till now, same basic pattern as all diplomacy.  There's no inscrutable orient thing to it.  Same shiat, different time zone.  But there is where a philosophical divergence takes place.  For the west, this is the point in negotiations where shiat gets real.  Time to lay it on.  Up the ante.  Make a power play.  Close the deal.  For Russia it means the other guy blinked, flex back at them, but open your other hand and remind them how great and benevolent and magnanimous you can be.


It's worthwhile to consider other perspectives, though, too.

Trump negotiates in a way completely counter to 200 years of experience of negotiating with American leaders. I suspect their career diplomats are being badly wrong-footed by Trump, too. And for all they assume he might be an idiot, there's still the entire career American bureaucracy behind him. The US closed out both the Civil War and WWII without their head of state, and won their independence without any form of effective central governance. Their state institutions and military work just fine on autopilot.
 
2017-04-21 08:56:03 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: I think it's more they don't want a western allied nation literally on the border.


They already have two nominally-western-allied nuclear nations sharing a land border, and have three more on their coastal borders.
 
2017-04-21 09:10:11 AM  
This whole thing kinda smacks of, "good cop, bad cop". The U.S. and China playing North Korea
to get this over. The U.S. doesn't really want to screw around with this..When it comes down to it,
This isn't our problem. We've lived for 50+ years with a Communist North Korea and "Communist"
China. China hasn't really been hard core Communist since a couple of leaders past Mao.Just like
Russia, they are now more a technocracy/oligarchy. They just want to keep making a profit and keep
the people from revolting (They stink on ice you know)..
 
2017-04-21 09:11:34 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: RJReves: [YouTube video]

Bit of an over-reaction there, pal.  I mean--

-- hold on, someone's at the door.

[vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x226]


Tell Todd Howard to not come back until he's got a decent writer on staff!
 
2017-04-21 09:16:09 AM  

winedrinkingman: I think everyone is misreading this.  I think Donald Trump "sold" the Chinese North Korea.  What does it matter if North Korea is ran by a tyrannical government out of Beijing or from Pyongyang?  Other than Beijing would be more stable.  We bomb North Koreas military and political structure, and then the Chinese swoop in as a "peacekeeping" force to stabilize the region.  South Korea wins because even though they don't like the Chinese, the DMZ is no longer a powder keg.  China wins, because they essentially have more direct control of North Korea's cheap labor and natural resources.  The North Korean people win, because they no longer have to live in a sham qausi religion built around the Kim family, and actually have food on their tables.  America wins, because we can now pull out of the region.  China wins again, because America has pulled out of the region.  With America gone, China may even negotiate unifying the north to the south again, because then they don't have to occupy Korea, and the ROK gets stuck with the cost of rebuilding, but part of the deal is that China gets cheap natural resources and labor.

My whole basis for this is how the Chinese Media has been treating Trump since his meeting with the Chinese leadership.  No one else would make this kind of deal, because you are basically accepting the return of colonialism, but I could see Trump going for it.


+1     Pretty much nailed it... a unified Korea would resolve lots of issues, and we could bring our guys home..
 
2017-04-21 09:21:33 AM  

foxyshadis: Sid_6.7: F*ck Donald Trump.

I'm pretty sure China is a lot more worried about their own cities as targets than about starting Korean War act 2. It's very much up in the air which side they would take if open hostilities broke out; they have lots of competing interests and really, really want the status quo to remain. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to assassinate the problem away.


I'm gonna keep pointing this out, because a lot of folks don't know. China has a defense treaty with NK. Until 2021. There are two options that don't involve them exactly taking NK's side - assassination, like you suggest, putting NK into the hands of the military, or at best, standing by and doing nothing. If they feel that they have to enter a conflict, they will enter it on the side of NK.

Side note, NK is expected to have proper ICBM capability by 2020. So Trump has to either work a deal with Xi so that they look the other way while he bombs NK's tech centers, or he has to grumble and look like a fool and admit that yes, NK will be able to threaten the US on his watch, killing another of his campaign promises.
 
2017-04-21 09:27:46 AM  

RJReves: That Guy...From That Show!: RJReves: That Guy...From That Show!: Calm down.  The same people who have enough nuclear triggers to do significant damage to us all are the same people who have everything to lose if they use them.

Cripes, if we had a dollar every time someone on fark shait their diapers thinking we're about to experience nuclear holocaust we'd all be rich.

A bunch of scared little babies.

None of the previous trigger men were egotistical little attention monkeys. Now there are 2, shaking their peckers at each other.

The priority for Trump is wealth.

A nuclear war would ruin that.  If it were profitable, it would have been used long ago.

Again, the ones who keep being scared about that happening are little babies crapping pants.  It's stupid.

I disagree. For Trump, the priority is attention, imho. Wealth is a way, but not an end. Otherwise, how do you explain The Apprentice, or his involvement in the WWE?


Actually it's both.
Trump believes there is no such thing as bad publicity. It only pushes the name out there and makes it more recognizable on properties.

It's funny how both are spoiled brats who inherited their wealth/power and somehow think they've created it themselves.
Still have to commend both for staying so long in the game.

If you want me to guess how this will unfold; China will amass on the NorK border while still appearing to be ambiguous and a threat-yet-possible-ally. Then all of a sudden, little Kim gets assassinated, bit of turmoil (real or otherwise), China moves in to 'stabilize' the country (with previous, clandestine US blessing), a puppet government will be set up.
Basically, NK will be Hong Kong version 2.0.
The US will come out and explain how they coordinated this with the Chinese "for the greater good of the people and politics worldwide", and will get trade and infrastructure deals out of this, which they will purchase material from China.

Viola, capitalistic state, with Chinese oversight.

/remember my words if they do unfold as such
 
2017-04-21 09:28:11 AM  
Update: Russia is also moving troops to the border of North Korea, although they say it is part of "planned maneuvers".  South Korea is on heightened alert.

My take on this is that everyone expects North Korea to conduct a nuclear test today, and nobody knows how Trump will react to that, and how Kim Jung-Un will react to that.

So they are preparing for the worst - war on the Korean peninsula.
 
2017-04-21 09:29:05 AM  
Russia has started moving troops, and now China. If I were China I'd be as worried about Russia as anything else with NK, Putin is probably looking for some way to profit from any chaos. It's one more thing to add to the mess there right now.
I'm hoping it's a bunch of show and the whole thing blows over. There's no good time for NK to collapse but this is a particularly bad time.
 
2017-04-21 09:30:44 AM  
Also, if someone has the Chinese admiral's mobile number, I need to call him and tell him there are no winners in war, only widows.
 
2017-04-21 09:35:30 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Ghastly: Sabres ain't gonna rattle themselves.

China hasn't been real big on that lately except when something goes wrong internally and they need to remind their own people that the Loving And Paternal Government keeps it's pimp hand strong.  Even those "islands" of theirs they're basically just building 'em, arming 'em, and shrugging like, "What? What are YOU going to do about it?  Start WWIII?  Didn't think so.  Go home and order another 100,000 tons of plastic crap from my factories on your shinebox."

So, I mean, if they are sabre rattling at us, it's kind of not a good sign.


The thing I like about those is that AFAIK nobody's figured out how to make a permanent artificial island yet.  Even those massive, fancy resort islands in the Persian Gulf require hideously expensive, heavy-engineering maintenence to keep from washing away in less than a decade.  Either China's going to have to spend a dispoportionate amount keeping those islands up and running, or they'll just go away on their own, eventually.

As far as functional airbases go, some pocket carriers probably would have been cheaper.  But you can't assert territorial rights with a ship, so...
 
2017-04-21 09:38:39 AM  

starsrift: I'm gonna keep pointing this out, because a lot of folks don't know. China has a defense treaty with NK. Until 2021. There are two options that don't involve them exactly taking NK's side - assassination, like you suggest, putting NK into the hands of the military, or at best, standing by and doing nothing. If they feel that they have to enter a conflict, they will enter it on the side of NK.


Maybe. Treaties are worth the paper they're printed on when the chips are down; every major power has broken treaties in the past, when adhering to them would put them in an adverse and untenable position.
 
2017-04-21 09:38:50 AM  

SomeAmerican: In the meantime:

Pentagon Experiences Communications Breakdown


Christ on a cracker.
 
2017-04-21 09:40:35 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Russia has started moving troops, and now China. If I were China I'd be as worried about Russia as anything else with NK, Putin is probably looking for some way to profit from any chaos. It's one more thing to add to the mess there right now.
I'm hoping it's a bunch of show and the whole thing blows over. There's no good time for NK to collapse but this is a particularly bad time.



China is co-ordinating WITH Russia, and those troops are going to the NK border.  China and Russia are allies, neighbors and trading partners.  Neither wants millions of North Korean refugees streaming into their country.  Saner minds will prevail.
 
2017-04-21 09:43:39 AM  

Bucky Katt: I'm sure Deadbeat Donny's armada will reach the area any day now.  Nothing to worry about.


Cunning strategy to have them sail around the world and approach from a completely unexpected direction! Chex Mix, libtardos!
 
2017-04-21 09:50:29 AM  

chewd: Yknow what China... go ahead & blow us up. Any country that is retarded enough to elect Forrest Trump deserves to get blown the hell up.

Bring it on, i recommend you start with the east coast middle & work your way west south.


The coasts didn't vote for this shiat
 
2017-04-21 09:52:21 AM  

quatchi: After all the insane pronouncements, dick waving and saber rattling by Krazy Kim and Dumbass Donnie it is now up to China to be the only adult in the room and try to chill to two petulant child-men out.


Yeah, no. China isn't the adult in the room. It's opportunistic middleman that's going to try and gain benefits out of an opportunity.
 
2017-04-21 09:56:07 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Russia has started moving troops, and now China. If I were China I'd be as worried about Russia as anything else with NK, Putin is probably looking for some way to profit from any chaos. It's one more thing to add to the mess there right now.


VVP approves
 
2017-04-21 09:56:18 AM  
Let's do what we did in WWII...carpet-bomb the fark out of the DPRK *without* resorting to nukes.

/but really...does KJU *really* want to risk instant annihilation?
//scratch that...he's a farking nutjob
 
2017-04-21 09:57:47 AM  

OlderGuy: winedrinkingman: I think everyone is misreading this.  I think Donald Trump "sold" the Chinese North Korea.  What does it matter if North Korea is ran by a tyrannical government out of Beijing or from Pyongyang?  Other than Beijing would be more stable.  We bomb North Koreas military and political structure, and then the Chinese swoop in as a "peacekeeping" force to stabilize the region.  South Korea wins because even though they don't like the Chinese, the DMZ is no longer a powder keg.  China wins, because they essentially have more direct control of North Korea's cheap labor and natural resources.  The North Korean people win, because they no longer have to live in a sham qausi religion built around the Kim family, and actually have food on their tables.  America wins, because we can now pull out of the region.  China wins again, because America has pulled out of the region.  With America gone, China may even negotiate unifying the north to the south again, because then they don't have to occupy Korea, and the ROK gets stuck with the cost of rebuilding, but part of the deal is that China gets cheap natural resources and labor.

My whole basis for this is how the Chinese Media has been treating Trump since his meeting with the Chinese leadership.  No one else would make this kind of deal, because you are basically accepting the return of colonialism, but I could see Trump going for it.

+1     Pretty much nailed it... a unified Korea would resolve lots of issues, and we could bring our guys home..


Clinton would be the one more for colonialism.
 
2017-04-21 09:59:32 AM  
Propaganda.
 
2017-04-21 10:04:04 AM  
Has there ever been a moment in history where a military formation was relocated and brought to a higher readiness standard complete with a complete maintenance overhaul and NOT used in combat? Didn't china just deploy a shiat load of mechanized troops to their border with North Korea?

Now reports that Russia is also moving troops to their portion of the shared boarder with North Korea and it looks like we have at the very least a major escalation and chance for someone to kick off an incident that can cascade out of control.

Trump and his roaming band of idiots are going to lead this nation into hell aren't they?
 
2017-04-21 10:07:37 AM  

Resident Muslim: RJReves: That Guy...From That Show!: RJReves: That Guy...From That Show!: Calm down.  The same people who have enough nuclear triggers to do significant damage to us all are the same people who have everything to lose if they use them.

Cripes, if we had a dollar every time someone on fark shait their diapers thinking we're about to experience nuclear holocaust we'd all be rich.

A bunch of scared little babies.

None of the previous trigger men were egotistical little attention monkeys. Now there are 2, shaking their peckers at each other.

The priority for Trump is wealth.

A nuclear war would ruin that.  If it were profitable, it would have been used long ago.

Again, the ones who keep being scared about that happening are little babies crapping pants.  It's stupid.

I disagree. For Trump, the priority is attention, imho. Wealth is a way, but not an end. Otherwise, how do you explain The Apprentice, or his involvement in the WWE?

Actually it's both.
Trump believes there is no such thing as bad publicity. It only pushes the name out there and makes it more recognizable on properties.

It's funny how both are spoiled brats who inherited their wealth/power and somehow think they've created it themselves.
Still have to commend both for staying so long in the game.

If you want me to guess how this will unfold; China will amass on the NorK border while still appearing to be ambiguous and a threat-yet-possible-ally. Then all of a sudden, little Kim gets assassinated, bit of turmoil (real or otherwise), China moves in to 'stabilize' the country (with previous, clandestine US blessing), a puppet government will be set up.
Basically, NK will be Hong Kong version 2.0.
The US will come out and explain how they coordinated this with the Chinese "for the greater good of the people and politics worldwide", and will get trade and infrastructure deals out of this, which they will purchase material from China.

Viola, capitalistic state, with Chinese oversight.

/remember my wor ...


I'd be okay with the scenario as you describe. Preferable to an actual war. Not a good time, nor does anyone want to deal with the mess of integrating the NKs into modern day society.

But everyone seems to blame Trump so much for this, I content this toilet of a situation was going to overflow no matter. Literally every administration (and other governments near NK) have been kicking this can down the road for so long. Obama basically did nothing, Bush focused his attention on the wrong country, and the deal with Clinton 1.0 absolutely did nothing.

And China, when toad frog Jiang Zemin was in power, were the ones that gave NK the material in the first place. So no, China is not the adult in the room. Trump or no Trump, this isn't his fault. And doing nothing bowing down to appease isn't going to do anything. It has not nor ever will work. So I hope the scenario you presented happens.
 
2017-04-21 10:15:53 AM  

HumanSVD: I'd be okay with the scenario as you describe. Preferable to an actual war. Not a good time, nor does anyone want to deal with the mess of integrating the NKs into modern day society.


There are a lot of families separated by the DMZ who would like to reunite and I think the South is open to handling that task.
 
2017-04-21 10:28:04 AM  

Colour_out_of_Space: chewd: Yknow what China... go ahead & blow us up. Any country that is retarded enough to elect Forrest Trump deserves to get blown the hell up.

Bring it on, i recommend you start with the east coast middle & work your way west south.

The coasts didn't vote for this shiat


One day recently I was looking at Nukemap, thinking about what areas could realistically be nuked in the US, should all hell break loose. At first I thought where I live would be spared a quick death, instead turning into a little isolated outpost of humanity. Hitting population centers on the coasts would obviously devastate the country, but then I remembered that there are also parts of our infrastructure that'd be big, fat targets in middle of the US. Power plants, dams, Kansas City (connecting the country by rail), uranium mines in CO... Fair amounts of middle America would see fire in the sky.

Where I am may deal fairly well/not be wiped out if major cities are nuked (depending on the winds if SLC is vaporized), but this is also oil/gas/coal/uranium country. Even without nukes, hitting just a lot of infrastructure in the US and NOT population zones could be catastrophic.
 
2017-04-21 10:32:09 AM  
Nothing is happening and nothing is going to happen.

I hope I'm wrong.
 
2017-04-21 10:46:28 AM  

HumanSVD: But everyone seems to blame Trump so much for this, I content this toilet of a situation was going to overflow no matter. Literally every administration (and other governments near NK) have been kicking this can down the road for so long. Obama basically did nothing, Bush focused his attention on the wrong country, and the deal with Clinton 1.0 absolutely did nothing.

And China, when toad frog Jiang Zemin was in power, were the ones that gave NK the material in the first place. So no, China is not the adult in the room. Trump or no Trump, this isn't his fault. And doing nothing bowing down to appease isn't going to do anything. It has not nor ever will work. So I hope the scenario you presented happens.


Trump just crapped in the bowl to help it overflow more quickly, then?

/whole world's going down the tubes
//you'd think it'd be one world, one tube
///but a tube that big?
 
2017-04-21 10:52:02 AM  
We will be waltzed into ww3 by Trump and the lack of media asking questions. This is ego driven, now the prep school bully has nukes.
 
2017-04-21 10:54:11 AM  

kb7rky: Let's do what we did in WWII...carpet-bomb the fark out of the DPRK *without* resorting to nukes.

/but really...does KJU *really* want to risk instant annihilation?
//scratch that...he's a farking nutjob


I was looking at news the other day about NK, and came across this gem (CNN Video).

Yeah, I'm not expecting anything logical from Kim and his krew.
 
2017-04-21 11:02:59 AM  

TheOtherGuy: LowbrowDeluxe: Ghastly: Sabres ain't gonna rattle themselves.

China hasn't been real big on that lately except when something goes wrong internally and they need to remind their own people that the Loving And Paternal Government keeps it's pimp hand strong.  Even those "islands" of theirs they're basically just building 'em, arming 'em, and shrugging like, "What? What are YOU going to do about it?  Start WWIII?  Didn't think so.  Go home and order another 100,000 tons of plastic crap from my factories on your shinebox."

So, I mean, if they are sabre rattling at us, it's kind of not a good sign.

The thing I like about those is that AFAIK nobody's figured out how to make a permanent artificial island yet.  Even those massive, fancy resort islands in the Persian Gulf require hideously expensive, heavy-engineering maintenence to keep from washing away in less than a decade.  Either China's going to have to spend a dispoportionate amount keeping those islands up and running, or they'll just go away on their own, eventually.

As far as functional airbases go, some pocket carriers probably would have been cheaper.  But you can't assert territorial rights with a ship, so...


They're just floating trash islands was the guess I seem to recall, since I don't think we've had a chance to really swim up and test a piece of them.  Basically meaning an anchored concrete carrier with no engines and a bunch of landfill grade plastic fill.  That might have been a really early guess, though, I don't recall having read anything substantive about them in a while.
 
2017-04-21 11:05:39 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Colour_out_of_Space: chewd: Yknow what China... go ahead & blow us up. Any country that is retarded enough to elect Forrest Trump deserves to get blown the hell up.

Bring it on, i recommend you start with the east coast middle & work your way west south.

The coasts didn't vote for this shiat

One day recently I was looking at Nukemap, thinking about what areas could realistically be nuked in the US, should all hell break loose. At first I thought where I live would be spared a quick death, instead turning into a little isolated outpost of humanity. Hitting population centers on the coasts would obviously devastate the country, but then I remembered that there are also parts of our infrastructure that'd be big, fat targets in middle of the US. Power plants, dams, Kansas City (connecting the country by rail), uranium mines in CO... Fair amounts of middle America would see fire in the sky.

Where I am may deal fairly well/not be wiped out if major cities are nuked (depending on the winds if SLC is vaporized), but this is also oil/gas/coal/uranium country. Even without nukes, hitting just a lot of infrastructure in the US and NOT population zones could be catastrophic.


If you don't have the ability to project force to put boots on the ground to hold it, that's actually preferable.  The burning, looting, and cannibalism will take care of the stuff you didn't hit, and the human animal mobs will keep anyone from rebuilding or taking the territory you cleared for them.  If you did have the means to secure the territory killing the people and leaving the infrastructure would be better, obviously.
 
2017-04-21 11:05:42 AM  

jethroe: The Irresponsible Captain: Russia has started moving troops, and now China. If I were China I'd be as worried about Russia as anything else with NK, Putin is probably looking for some way to profit from any chaos. It's one more thing to add to the mess there right now.
I'm hoping it's a bunch of show and the whole thing blows over. There's no good time for NK to collapse but this is a particularly bad time.

China is co-ordinating WITH Russia, and those troops are going to the NK border.  China and Russia are allies, neighbors and trading partners.  Neither wants millions of North Korean refugees streaming into their country.  Saner minds will prevail.


Moving forces to their borders with Korea doesn't require any sort of coordination with the other.

And it's dramatically overstating the case to call China and Russia "allies." They cooperate on almost nothing militarily, and usually only cooperate diplomatically when they're opposing American intervention somewhere in Asia. China's gotten to the point where they need almost nothing from the Russians tech-wise, and in most aspects, they're now rivals to the Russians, both in terms of power parity and courting foreign arms sales.

You're right when you say that neither wants a flood of refugees, but Russia doesn't really need any cooperation from China to make that happen. Their fraction of the border is absolutely tiny, is open/rural terrain, doesn't have major cities along it like Donggang / Dangong, and Koreans are easily identifiable against the Russian locals --- their border is very easily sealed off.
 
2017-04-21 11:08:12 AM  

Resident Muslim: If you want me to guess how this will unfold; China will amass on the NorK border while still appearing to be ambiguous and a threat-yet-possible-ally. Then all of a sudden, little Kim gets assassinated, bit of turmoil (real or otherwise), China moves in to 'stabilize' the country (with previous, clandestine US blessing), a puppet government will be set up.
Basically, NK will be Hong Kong version 2.0.


How would the Union have reacted to Britain conquering the Confederacy during the Civil War?
 
2017-04-21 11:09:03 AM  

BigNumber12: and Koreans are easily identifiable against the Russian locals


I'd imagine there quite a lot of Chinese there.
/Difference between Chinese and North Koreans is about 1 feet
 
2017-04-21 11:10:09 AM  

jethroe: China and Russia are allies, neighbors and trading partners.


China is allied with Russia in the same way the US is.
 
2017-04-21 11:10:18 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Checkov's gun was a metaphor, people. The world is not a play. Having a gun on the wall in act I does not mean you have to shoot someone in act II


But does Trump know that? Wasn't he asking whats the point if we arent going to use them?
 
2017-04-21 11:12:03 AM  
High alert? Well, it was 4/20.
 
2017-04-21 11:13:38 AM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2017-04-21 11:13:53 AM  

foxyshadis: Sid_6.7: F*ck Donald Trump.

I'm pretty sure China is a lot more worried about their own cities as targets than about starting Korean War act 2. It's very much up in the air which side they would take if open hostilities broke out; they have lots of competing interests and really, really want the status quo to remain. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to assassinate the problem away.


I'm actually leaning more towards them siding with us.  Having Best Korea and an ally doesn't really provide them anything besides a small buffer for invasion, and in today technology it doesn't really even provide that any more.

The US specifically, and a lot of its allies are literally the Chinese economy.  If we go to war their economy tanks.  Their saving grace in a war with US is the sheer size of their military, but if they aren't getting paid or fed the likelihood of their army wanting to continue to fight is pretty small.

Are they really willing to destroy their entire economy over what the North Koreans provide?  Which is......  A small buffer from us invading them, that doesn't really even exist anymore?
 
2017-04-21 11:28:56 AM  

RedComrade: Has there ever been a moment in history where a military formation was relocated and brought to a higher readiness standard complete with a complete maintenance overhaul and NOT used in combat? Didn't china just deploy a shiat load of mechanized troops to their border with North Korea?

Now reports that Russia is also moving troops to their portion of the shared boarder with North Korea and it looks like we have at the very least a major escalation and chance for someone to kick off an incident that can cascade out of control.

Trump and his roaming band of idiots are going to lead this nation into hell aren't they?


That's basically the meaning of "sabre rattling." Military forces have probably been moved and threatened a hundred times for every actual war; do you really believe every military movement is a prelude to battle?
 
2017-04-21 11:41:01 AM  
China is gearing up to annex Best Korea. It's really is a win-win situation for everyone. Except for the few or the one in power but their loss is everyone's win.
 
2017-04-21 11:46:17 AM  

LewDux: BigNumber12: and Koreans are easily identifiable against the Russian locals

I'd imagine there quite a lot of Chinese there.
/Difference between Chinese and North Koreans is about 1 feet


Looks like there aren't a ton. Of a population of ~2,000,000:

img.fark.net
 
2017-04-21 11:50:47 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Propaganda.


img.fark.net
 
2017-04-21 11:51:52 AM  
China will kill Kim and annex North Korea. It would be incredibly stupid for them to declare hostilities on their #1 economic tie. I doubt they will step in until the very last minute though, like if Kim tests another nuke.

I'm sure they've had this planned ever since they decided to let NK remain a stand-alone republic in the 50's. Keep a buffer between the US and their border for a fraction of a penny on the dollar and not have to deal with millions of new citizens at once until they had to. Incentive is gone, real threat of nuclear escalation on their doorstep. Bye bye NK government.

It's a good opportunity for them to show the world their military capability as well, which they have been heavily investing in over the last 20 years and haven't had a chance to use.
 
2017-04-21 11:52:47 AM  
Maybe they lost a new ultra quiet submarine, and a chinese sub captain with a scottish burr is going to defect?

/"Hot shingles?"
//"Vasily, give that website one ping pleashe"
///"one ping"
 
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