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2017-04-21 09:40:06 AM  

Fano: Weatherkiss: I work with a lot of millenials. They seem just as dumb and naive as I was at their age, which tells me that they're no better or worse than everybody else.

Yeah but the problem is, they shouldn't be, what with the sum total of human knowledge in their hands that they can't bother to use productively.


So to be clear, Millenials are no better than any other generation, which makes them worse?
 
2017-04-21 09:52:33 AM  

J Noble Daggett: Mike_LowELL: J Noble Daggett: Because your balls have dropped, hair is growing on your chest and you want to get the hell out on your own. You don't want Mommy wiping your bottom or kissing your boo boos or making you snacks because you've developed some farking pride damnit. Because you have seen someone who will fail to launch and you thought that's worse than death. Yeck. Aw hell no, I'll pick lettuce in a field first, and sleep in a field if need be but no way am I gonna be THAT guy having mommy washing his clothes at 19. Maybe some Mommies are slipping their boys anti-testosterone meds in their creamy mac&cheese.

When you make these kinds of posts, it is very important to mention how you paid for college by working a part-time summer job.  Also, threaten to fight anyone under the age of 25.  It will give you "street cred", as the Millennials call it.

No, it was part-time jobs during high school, full time jobs in the summer, full time job during junior college and part-time jobs during the last two years at University. And my daughter and some did mostly the same except for the junior college part because I paid just enough so they got by without loans and only had to work for pocket money. It was hard for me to find the jobs and it was hard for my kids to find their jobs because their ain't any red carpets waiting for anybody and never were. Five decades ago I was watching the end of the aerospace boom, 50% of aerospace workers being laid off, engineers scrambling to find jobs and winding up selling washing machines at Sears or taking jobs as truck drivers if they could find work. 5 decades ago it was clear that it didn't matter who you were or what you did, you had better be ready to learn a new dance when the music changed. There would be booms and busts and people lying to you all the way. Things are harder now, authentically harder. But it's still about doing things for yourself because the roads are never paved with gold and never have been.


Lol.

'Member when selling washing machines at Sears or being a delivery driver paid enough to support a family? Or that these sorts of jobs that could actually support a person, let alone a family, were even readily available?
 
2017-04-21 09:57:11 AM  

The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 425x425]


Anit-theft device indeed.  CSB time.  I decided to get a new car and traded in my old Scion tC.  The dealer said he would have had no problem unloading it to some young person, except it's a stick.  No one drives stick anymore, he said. :(

/I did not get top dollar on the trade-in
 
2017-04-21 09:58:33 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: Fano: Weatherkiss: I work with a lot of millenials. They seem just as dumb and naive as I was at their age, which tells me that they're no better or worse than everybody else.

Yeah but the problem is, they shouldn't be, what with the sum total of human knowledge in their hands that they can't bother to use productively.

Oh, was there an age limit on the Internet and smart phones? Does a crystal light up on your hand after the age of 35 and phones other than the Galaxy Note 7 detonate in your hands, dooming you to a life of cricket phones?


Logan's run via Smartphone Carousels?
 
2017-04-21 10:02:33 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Weatherkiss: I work with a lot of millenials. They seem just as dumb and naive as I was at their age, which tells me that they're no better or worse than everybody else.

I see them as the first generation in the history of mankind that literally fears human interactions, and lacks the basic concept of hunting & gathering  (we now hunt for dollars and gather food).  Not all of them of course.

There are a few of them who are managing to evolve normally and they are easily spotted as they are wildly successful due to the simple lack of competition from their peers.  I know several people with just high school diplomas making six and seven figure incomes just because they still have their basic human drivers.


I know several people like that as well.  And luck was a *huge* factor in having that income (the family they were born into, who dad knew, right place at the right time, etc.) for the vast majority of them.I don't deny that many (not all) are working hard but gumption alone didn't bring those salaries.
 

Employers are desperate for young people willing to get up each day and go to work, try their best each day, and not cry about it.  When they find those people they are well rewarded.

I disagree.  If it is a large company, they are just a number in a company that is blatantly not loyal to them.  The only job security comes from being the one guy/girl, who decides to be *the* person for some hyper mundane system or process or team or product that the company will use for decades....well, that or working your way up which is often less work and knowledge and more politicing.  Employers generally like *any* employee who works beyond what they are paid.  If they are desperate for young people it is so they can pay them less than they would have to pay someone with more experience who would demand a higher salary and not put up with shiat.

It's a crap-shoot finding a job that "rewards well" for hard work.  When you do bust your ass, you have to dodge through things like eccentric and/or insecure and/or jealous bosses and co-workers.  And if your job actually metes out rewards (bonuses, promotions), it's often less merit based than it is some other factor or you find yourself getting the same as the guy who was late every day and sat on their ass doing nothing.

Top all this off with the fact that Millennials have been bombarded all their life with everyone telling them they are awesome and going to be the life of the party and have expensive homes and cars and tons of cool friends and get to travel to exotic locations for vacations, etc., all with minimal effort and all by the time they are in their late 20s.  I can kind of see any negative attitudes they present.
 
2017-04-21 10:03:59 AM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: Fano: Weatherkiss: I work with a lot of millenials. They seem just as dumb and naive as I was at their age, which tells me that they're no better or worse than everybody else.

Yeah but the problem is, they shouldn't be, what with the sum total of human knowledge in their hands that they can't bother to use productively.

So to be clear, Millenials are no better than any other generation, which makes them worse?


Yes. I thought we still believed in progress. I used to spend days, weeks, even years trying to figure out the name of a song or the artist. Now it's a Shazam away.
 
2017-04-21 10:05:57 AM  

Krieghund: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: My daughter and her fiance are both millennials, and are each hard working and without an entitled bone in their bodies

Well, she's got ONE entitled bone in her body. If you know what I mean.

Hey, she's an adult, she's engaged. I'm sure you're over it
.


Yeah, that ship has long since sailed.
 
2017-04-21 10:08:47 AM  

MajorTubeSteak: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 425x425]

Anit-theft device indeed.  CSB time.  I decided to get a new car and traded in my old Scion tC.  The dealer said he would have had no problem unloading it to some young person, except it's a stick.  No one drives stick anymore, he said. :(

/I did not get top dollar on the trade-in



Well shiat.

I learned how to drive a stick when I had my learner's permit, and I HATED it at the time, but I'm glad I did.

1) My Jeep is stick, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
2) A good number of my friends can't drive a manual, so if they volunteer to be the DD, we can't take the Jeep.
3) Even when certain people claim they can drive one (like my brother), they do a shiatty job..like not giving it enough gas.
 
2017-04-21 10:32:20 AM  
Just based on their voting patterns, I'm gonna have to side with the Millennials, not the geezers.
 
2017-04-21 10:34:24 AM  

give me doughnuts: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: I guess my point was, that pre-device era, we were compelled to talk with our coworkers while on break or lunch.

What else could we have done? Just sit there in dead silence like a crazy person?

Read a book/magazine/newspaper.
I have to work with these people, so why the hell would I want to socialize with them on my lunch-break?


Apparently I was blessed with gregarious and interesting co-workers throughout the years. Plus, I've always worked in the trades, where you might be paired with just one or two others for a relatively short duration, not an entire team for 5 days a week 52 weeks out of the year.
 
2017-04-21 10:50:05 AM  
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2017-04-21 10:54:29 AM  

The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 425x425]


I gave my son a pickup truck with a 5 speed manual transmission when he was 16.  He's 21 and in college now.  He has a motorcycle and CDL license as well.  The CDL has gotten him some good paying part time jobs in college.
 
2017-04-21 11:04:21 AM  

moothemagiccow: trappedspirit: There's always going to be people who feel they are entitled to more than the world is providing them.  At least as long as there are people not teaching them to manage their expectations.

The people complaining that they're not getting enough is the reason I can play every hit song ever on something the size of a 60-minute audio cassette tape.


Not really.  The ones complaining aren't working in top tier technology jobs.
 
2017-04-21 11:06:08 AM  
Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

What I want is for all the money used for repayment of student loans to be a tax deduction.  Not just a couple thousand dollars in interest.  ALL of it.  It would  not be a "free" student loan, because you have pay the money back in order to get the tax benefit.  The people loaning me the money get paid back, and they still get their interest as incentive to make the loans in the first place.  But it would reduce the tax burden for people who are repaying their loans, and the extra money they save could be used for other personal spending which boosts the economy.  Of course, this has to be used in conjunction with income-based repayment programs, so that people aren't going broke on payments they can't afford until they make it to tax time.
 
2017-04-21 11:09:10 AM  

orbister: CowardlyLion: /there's little excuse for the continued existence of shiatty, antiquated technology like that

Except for pleasure and better fuel economy. Does it worry you that in most of the world automatic transmissions are in a small minority?

I'm pretty sure it has been at least a decade or two where manuals get better MPG or acceleration over automatics. When even the F-150 comes with a 10-speed auto and an Accord has a 7-speed auto, along with computer controlled shifting, manuals don't stand a chance.
 
2017-04-21 11:12:30 AM  

The_Sponge: MajorTubeSteak: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 425x425]

Anit-theft device indeed.  CSB time.  I decided to get a new car and traded in my old Scion tC.  The dealer said he would have had no problem unloading it to some young person, except it's a stick.  No one drives stick anymore, he said. :(

/I did not get top dollar on the trade-in


Well shiat.

I learned how to drive a stick when I had my learner's permit, and I HATED it at the time, but I'm glad I did.

1) My Jeep is stick, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
2) A good number of my friends can't drive a manual, so if they volunteer to be the DD, we can't take the Jeep.
3) Even when certain people claim they can drive one (like my brother), they do a shiatty job..like not giving it enough gas.


I've owned 4 stick vehicles over the course of my driving years.  I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.
 
2017-04-21 11:14:07 AM  

wejash: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

/threadjack

Have you emailed your senators and congressman to ask for student loans to be dischargeable in bankruptcy again?

This week?

No?

What the fark is wrong with you?

I'm really not kidding.

Several national groups are lobbying on this all the time...using they're Baby Boomer lobbyists and members to bang the drum.

/threadjack


Why would they do that?
You borrowed it, you pay it back.  End of story.
Grow up.
 
2017-04-21 11:18:10 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]


Honestly I just can't sympathize with this from my POV.
Graduated highschool in 06. Went to college from '06 to '12, through the crunch.
No loans, no scholarships, no family assistance. I worked my way through the most expensive state school (fark you ASU).

Of course I never partied or spent time taking pictures of my food.
 
2017-04-21 11:24:53 AM  
Millenials.  Heh.  Last month, I had one email me about his non-working desk phone, and at the end, apropos of nothing, he added:

And as a Millenial, I don't understand why I have to use a phone at all.  Why can't everyone just email me?
 
2017-04-21 11:25:24 AM  

Best Princess Celestia: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

Honestly I just can't sympathize with this from my POV.
Graduated highschool in 06. Went to college from '06 to '12, through the crunch.
No loans, no scholarships, no family assistance. I worked my way through the most expensive state school (fark you ASU).

Of course I never partied or spent time taking pictures of my food.


How dare you be responsible and make the others look bad!
 
2017-04-21 11:27:40 AM  

dill doze: What the hell are the parents thinking in these cases?  I don't care which arbitrary demographic group you're a member of.  If someone will let you live rent free, pay for your living expenses, let you just screw around all day, and not even demand to sleep with you then you've got to give it some serious consideration.

It sounds like we need a few more Red Formans out there.


Tell you what. You mock up a resume of someone just out of college, remember to add in the debt from predatory loans, and see how fast YOU pay off your debt.
 
2017-04-21 11:28:56 AM  

MajorTubeSteak: Best Princess Celestia: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

Honestly I just can't sympathize with this from my POV.
Graduated highschool in 06. Went to college from '06 to '12, through the crunch.
No loans, no scholarships, no family assistance. I worked my way through the most expensive state school (fark you ASU).

Of course I never partied or spent time taking pictures of my food.

How dare you be responsible and make the others look bad!


Sometimes I forget I changed my name. Used to be a dragon and dragons don't coddle snowflakes.
 
2017-04-21 11:33:29 AM  

MrSteve007: orbister: CowardlyLion: /there's little excuse for the continued existence of shiatty, antiquated technology like that

Except for pleasure and better fuel economy. Does it worry you that in most of the world automatic transmissions are in a small minority?
I'm pretty sure it has been at least a decade or two where manuals get better MPG or acceleration over automatics. When even the F-150 comes with a 10-speed auto and an Accord has a 7-speed auto, along with computer controlled shifting, manuals don't stand a chance.


You're waaaay off base with your "decade or two" generalization. Here's an article from 2013 where Edmunds concludes it depends on the model.
 
2017-04-21 11:34:24 AM  

KrispykremeMcDonalds: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

Great pic.  Maybe MILLENIALS shouldn't be getting $150K Liberal Arts degrees?  You can make an excellent living with ZERO college if you aren't an idiot.


You're right. Perhaps millennials should be getting 100% state-funded liberal arts degrees like the entitled morons who dismantled public education funding.
 
2017-04-21 11:36:49 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Millenials.  Heh.  Last month, I had one email me about his non-working desk phone, and at the end, apropos of nothing, he added:

And as a Millenial, I don't understand why I have to use a phone at all.  Why can't everyone just email me?


He's right. Email is more reliable means of communication for work. There's an electronic paper trail of everything you sent me, so there's no excuse that you forgot to mention something and no demand that I left out something you asked me to do.
 
2017-04-21 11:37:51 AM  

MajorTubeSteak: I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.


So you like wearing out your transmission instead of your break pads, you buy shiatty cheap batteries, and often get stuck in snow banks?  I think it's time to take a closer look at your life and make some changes.
 
2017-04-21 11:50:55 AM  

DarkVader: A dual-clutch automatic is demonstrably better than any manual transmission, you can even pick the gear yourself if you want (within reason, no shifting into reverse from 8th, that would be transmission destroying idiocy and the computer won't let you do it) with the paddles. The CVT is better still, no noticeable clunking gears at all, just smooth efficiency at any RPM. The automatic transmission isn't crap, the fluid torque converter is crap.


DSG's are the best, although expensive and relatively rare in affordable vehicles.  CVT's are poor in performance vehicles, and in fact, they are substantially slower (both 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile) in identical vehicles compared to a regular old rowing manual transmission.

Also, you might not realize it, but CVT's have a fluid torque converter in front of them...  Automotive CVT's are constantly engaged chain drives, they do not slip.  Without a torque converter there would be no stopping.   Granted, they are generally very low stall, lockout torque converters, but they are torque converters.
 
2017-04-21 11:53:21 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]


Let's see... the cartoon shows these young adults with shackles..

Who put them there?  Did someone hold a gun to their heads and made them go to expensive private colleges for worthless degrees and stay in like ToTaLLy aWEsOmE! dorms, organic/farm-to-table/hand-crafted/locally-sourced food service, buy designer purses and large TVs with student loans?  No.  They made these series of bad choices themselves.

I put myself through school (community college, undergrad, grad, and med), all state schools, without taking out a single loan, by working my ass off while in school. These were not high-paying jobs either, most around $15/hour, some less.  Occasionally I could score some nice project work and make more.  If I didn't have enough money for a full class load, I didn't take classes and worked more.  12-15 credit hours per semester + ~40-80 hours/week of work.  I remember friends joking that residency would be a vacation for me as it'd be the fewest hours I'd worked in my life.   I lived quite frugally and had to.  I still do.  Just sold my car from college, some 225,000+ miles later from when I got it.   I'm still planning on retiring early.

An education is an investment.  Not all investments are good ones.  Caveat Emptor!
 
2017-04-21 11:53:55 AM  

moothemagiccow: CheekyMonkey: Millenials.  Heh.  Last month, I had one email me about his non-working desk phone, and at the end, apropos of nothing, he added:

And as a Millenial, I don't understand why I have to use a phone at all.  Why can't everyone just email me?

He's right. Email is more reliable means of communication for work. There's an electronic paper trail of everything you sent me, so there's no excuse that you forgot to mention something and no demand that I left out something you asked me to do.


If you want to take a shiat on something off the record to give someone real information on the status of a project you wouldn't email it.
 
2017-04-21 11:56:31 AM  

trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.

So you like wearing out your transmission instead of your break pads, you buy shiatty cheap batteries, and often get stuck in snow banks?  I think it's time to take a closer look at your life and make some changes.


Ah yes, the beautiful negative BS response I've grown use to from Farkers like you. Sorry chief, but no. Maybe if you are an idiot like yourself, you wear out the transmission.  I've NEVER burned out one clutch or worn out a transmission.  Considering that I owned my Scion for 12 years and it still going fine proves you wrong. Nice try.  I've even used my clutch to stay in place on a hill.  It's all about subtlety and paying close attention, which is obviously not your strong suit.

I know this is hard for you to understand, but even good batteries can have a difficult time turning over a vehicle in a very cold climate, like being in Maine for the weekend in -20 degree weather.  Batteries lose cold cranking amps as the temperature drops.

But feel free to keep derping/trolling your way through life, it is serving you well.
 
2017-04-21 11:56:44 AM  

moothemagiccow: CheekyMonkey: Millenials.  Heh.  Last month, I had one email me about his non-working desk phone, and at the end, apropos of nothing, he added:

And as a Millenial, I don't understand why I have to use a phone at all.  Why can't everyone just email me?

He's right. Email is more reliable means of communication for work. There's an electronic paper trail of everything you sent me, so there's no excuse that you forgot to mention something and no demand that I left out something you asked me to do.


I'll not argue that as a general point.  *I'd* rather use email for everything myself.

However, this particular scenario involves him having to contact members of the community to request that they become involved and donate their time.  In this case, I would argue that you use whatever method of communication is used by *those you are trying to reach*, not whine about the fact that the world doesn't cater to your whims.
 
2017-04-21 12:04:36 PM  
Could it be parents fault for coddling them and making them get participation trophies?

/maybe they are not special
// false elevation of achievement when young
 
2017-04-21 12:13:43 PM  

MajorTubeSteak: trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.

So you like wearing out your transmission instead of your break pads, you buy shiatty cheap batteries, and often get stuck in snow banks?  I think it's time to take a closer look at your life and make some changes.

Ah yes, the beautiful negative BS response I've grown use to from Farkers like you. Sorry chief, but no. Maybe if you are an idiot like yourself, you wear out the transmission.  I've NEVER burned out one clutch or worn out a transmission.  Considering that I owned my Scion for 12 years and it still going fine proves you wrong. Nice try.  I've even used my clutch to stay in place on a hill.  It's all about subtlety and paying close attention, which is obviously not your strong suit.

I know this is hard for you to understand, but even good batteries can have a difficult time turning over a vehicle in a very cold climate, like being in Maine for the weekend in -20 degree weather.  Batteries lose cold cranking amps as the temperature drops.

But feel free to keep derping/trolling your way through life, it is serving you well.


Wow, your car has a frictionless transmission that normal use of doesn't cause wear.  Somebody call physics and tell them they stopped working.  Brilliant.  Keep piling on the make-believe justifications.  I expected nothing less.
 
2017-04-21 12:16:47 PM  

thatboyoverthere: wejash: Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]

/threadjack

Have you emailed your senators and congressman to ask for student loans to be dischargeable in bankruptcy again?

This week?

No?

What the fark is wrong with you?

I'm really not kidding.

Several national groups are lobbying on this all the time...using they're Baby Boomer lobbyists and members to bang the drum.

/threadjack

Why bother? We can't even get the GOP to investigate if the very foundation of our country was violated by Russia. They're actively trying to kill me and my love ones. There is no way in hell they would ever think about helping me.



Yes.  That's the way to do it.

Exactly the way to put pressure on them!

You have the idea now.

Opt-out and show Congress that there's no danger in voting for the loan industry because you are too lazy to even make a farking phone call!

You pretty much just proved the point of everyone who says that your generation is too lazy, unreliable and self-involved to be counted on.  (And it doesn't matter WHICH generation you are in because EVERY generation says this about another one.)
 
2017-04-21 12:18:18 PM  
The generation before me is full of myopic, selfish pricks of the "I got mine, Jack" variety.

The generation after me is full of weak, entitled and useless c*nts.

My generation are mostly junkies.

Americans are awful people, is what I am getting at here.
 
2017-04-21 12:18:39 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [img.fark.net image 850x649]


Asinine comic. The difference is that the old people did move out of mommy's house, they got jobs, and worked for 40 years.
Other than that, yeah, it's totally accurate.
 
2017-04-21 12:25:50 PM  

trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.

So you like wearing out your transmission instead of your break pads, you buy shiatty cheap batteries, and often get stuck in snow banks?  I think it's time to take a closer look at your life and make some changes.

Ah yes, the beautiful negative BS response I've grown use to from Farkers like you. Sorry chief, but no. Maybe if you are an idiot like yourself, you wear out the transmission.  I've NEVER burned out one clutch or worn out a transmission.  Considering that I owned my Scion for 12 years and it still going fine proves you wrong. Nice try.  I've even used my clutch to stay in place on a hill.  It's all about subtlety and paying close attention, which is obviously not your strong suit.

I know this is hard for you to understand, but even good batteries can have a difficult time turning over a vehicle in a very cold climate, like being in Maine for the weekend in -20 degree weather.  Batteries lose cold cranking amps as the temperature drops.

But feel free to keep derping/trolling your way through life, it is serving you well.

Wow, your car has a frictionless transmission that normal use of doesn't cause wear.  Somebody call physics and tell them they stopped working.  Brilliant.  Keep piling on the make-believe justifications.  I expected nothing less.


Don't really care what you believe. The car lasted 12 years. Obviously its not a problem for non-trolls.
 
2017-04-21 12:28:49 PM  

MajorTubeSteak: Don't really care what you believe. The car lasted 12 years. Obviously its not a problem for non-trolls.


It's just physics, dude.  No reason to be afraid of it.
 
2017-04-21 12:32:50 PM  

trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: I love driving stick, and it has a few advantages like down shifting instead of braking and jump-starting the car on a weak battery. Several times, I have "rocked" my car out of a snow bank by alternating between first gear and clutch.  You can't do that with an automatic.

So you like wearing out your transmission instead of your break pads, you buy shiatty cheap batteries, and often get stuck in snow banks?  I think it's time to take a closer look at your life and make some changes.

Ah yes, the beautiful negative BS response I've grown use to from Farkers like you. Sorry chief, but no. Maybe if you are an idiot like yourself, you wear out the transmission.  I've NEVER burned out one clutch or worn out a transmission.  Considering that I owned my Scion for 12 years and it still going fine proves you wrong. Nice try.  I've even used my clutch to stay in place on a hill.  It's all about subtlety and paying close attention, which is obviously not your strong suit.

I know this is hard for you to understand, but even good batteries can have a difficult time turning over a vehicle in a very cold climate, like being in Maine for the weekend in -20 degree weather.  Batteries lose cold cranking amps as the temperature drops.

But feel free to keep derping/trolling your way through life, it is serving you well.

Wow, your car has a frictionless transmission that normal use of doesn't cause wear.  Somebody call physics and tell them they stopped working.  Brilliant.  Keep piling on the make-believe justifications.  I expected nothing less.


I've owned 4+ standards and did the same thing to each one and never had a problem. Please amaze me with all your standard transmission experience. Oh right, you have none.
 
2017-04-21 12:36:30 PM  

trappedspirit: MajorTubeSteak: Don't really care what you believe. The car lasted 12 years. Obviously its not a problem for non-trolls.

It's just physics, dude.  No reason to be afraid of it.


Not afraid of it. Just proving you don't know what you are talking about. Sure there is wear, but its not a big deal. Most people get rid of cars after 5 years. This one is 12 years old and still has no problems with the clutch. Pleas tell me exactly how old it needs to be before you consider it ok.
 
2017-04-21 12:37:36 PM  

Fano: AppleOptionEsc: Fano: Weatherkiss: I work with a lot of millenials. They seem just as dumb and naive as I was at their age, which tells me that they're no better or worse than everybody else.

Yeah but the problem is, they shouldn't be, what with the sum total of human knowledge in their hands that they can't bother to use productively.

Oh, was there an age limit on the Internet and smart phones? Does a crystal light up on your hand after the age of 35 and phones other than the Galaxy Note 7 detonate in your hands, dooming you to a life of cricket phones?

I see, you're as angry as you are stupid. Perhaps you could look up how to parse English.


I wouldn't think your position was that weak you fall back in ad hominem attacks. But what should I expect from someone who insists on calling people stupids based on their age.
 
2017-04-21 12:59:56 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: Employers are desperate for young people willing to get up each day and go to work, try their best each day, and not cry about it.  When they find those people they are well rewarded.


ahahahahahahahahaha... no.

When they find those people they are well rewarded. asked to do more for the same pay and pushed to the brink until they become jaded and burned out.  The only time you will be rewarded is if you threaten to leave and have another job offer in hand, and even then it'shiat or miss.

UberDave: Employers generally like *any* employee who works beyond what they are paid.  If they are desperate for young people it is so they can pay them less than they would have to pay someone with more experience who would demand a higher salary and not put up with shiat.

It's a crap-shoot finding a job that "rewards well" for hard work.  When you do bust your ass, you have to dodge through things like eccentric and/or insecure and/or jealous bosses and co-workers.  And if your job actually metes out rewards (bonuses, promotions), it's often less merit based than it is some other factor or you find yourself getting the same as the guy who was late every day and sat on their ass doing nothing.


This guy ^.  Now this guy gets it.
 
2017-04-21 01:05:13 PM  
The one thing I have noticed that nobody talks about is how effeminate millennial males are compared to past generations.  Just look at a yearbook from the 70's or 80's and compare it to a recent one.  WTF is going on? Estrogen in the water supply?
 
2017-04-21 01:16:41 PM  

starsrift: DarkVader: ...Truck driver won't be a job for much longer...

Taxi driver, maybe. Truck driver, no. Everything from hijacking to unloading and so on? No, even if the human doesn't drive the vehicle any more than a commercial airline pilot flies their plane, there's still gonna need to be someone there on board for quite a few decades yet.


Unloading, refueling and just about everything else can be done by low-skill, low-wage employees, who wouldn't have to actually accompany any particular truck, and you could probably fire a few dozen truck drivers for every such flunkie you hire. In 20 years there won't be single professional truck driver in any developed nation, don't kid yourself.
 
2017-04-21 01:17:56 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: The one thing I have noticed that nobody talks about is how effeminate millennial males are compared to past generations.  Just look at a yearbook from the 70's or 80's and compare it to a recent one.  WTF is going on? Estrogen in the water supply?


You're gonna tell me that those dudes with their feathered hair are some epitome of masculinity?

On a more serious note: There's no estrogen in the water supply, but the increased use of plastics that break down and simulate estrogen is a real and provable argument.
 
2017-04-21 01:18:26 PM  

NobleHam: fark STEM superiority, the Western tradition of a liberal arts education still has value, and it's not our fault that it doesn't often have economic value


Just a quick QFT
 
2017-04-21 01:22:18 PM  

dill doze: J Noble Daggett: NobleHam: So young people believed old people when they said college was the way to a brighter future and then found their degrees didn't get them shiat, and Baby Boomers were unable to retire thanks to the Great Recession, so Millennials* are stuck working for jack shiat and living with their parents who also still have to work? Yeah, that's what everyone thought.

*who didn't get a STEM degree, but seriously, fark STEM superiority, the Western tradition of a liberal arts education still has value, and it's not our fault that it doesn't often have economic value

I don't get it, this "believe old people when ..."  At 15, 16, 17 you're looking at the world knowing that this high school thing will be over soon and thinking about what you'll be doing but no way should you be listening to advice from teachers or parents. You think for yourself. You're about to take charge of your own life. Your first and foremost goal is to find some way to go out and live on your own. Get some room mates and share some cheap dive while scrambling to make some money. Because as an adolescent you're supposed to want to get the hell away from your parents. Stand on your own. Internally driven. You make some mistakes and hopefully they don't kill you and you learn. But you don't blame the world, it just is. You figure out what you need to do to get by. The world ain't your Mommy, it won't wipe your bottom, kiss your boo boos or make you some creamy mac&cheese, you gotta go buy some at the dollar store and make it for yourself. And then you need to find room mates that wash their own dishes after they make their Mac&cheese and pay their share of the rent. And you work two jobs so the little time you have on your own you can listen to The Young Man Blues like every other generation has. But at least you're not living at Mom's.

But why do all that when you can go on living like a child with a literal Mommy to wipe your bottom, kiss your boo boos, and make you some creamy mac&cheese?  Staying at home certainly makes paying the bills easier, and if it doesn't get in the way of "fulfilling yourself as a creative individual" or whatever it is that these people tell themselves they're doing with their time, for example because mom demands that you get a job and start paying a bit of rent, then why move out?  Other than how depressing an existence like that sounds, I guess...


Can you show me on the wallet where the millennial touched you?
 
2017-04-21 01:38:15 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: The one thing I have noticed that nobody talks about is how effeminate millennial males are compared to past generations.  Just look at a yearbook from the 70's or 80's and compare it to a recent one.  WTF is going on? Estrogen in the water supply?


No, this comes from the ultra-militant, men-hating portion of the feminist movement.  Remember, men and anything about them are bad.  Speak up against them and they'll say you're hateful and don't support equal rights.

It also comes from the movement in the late 80s-early 90s where they were trying to get rid of traditional gender roles.  If little Johnny wants to play with dolls all day, that's great!  If little Sarah wants to wear camo and play football, that's great!   Unfortunately, this leads to confusion which has long-lasting repercussions.  Those years are called formative years for a reason -- they are what shape a person into an adult.  Children at that age aren't capable of making these decisions for themselves.  This leads to anxiety issues among other issues.   Gender ambiguity also leads to the gay lisp as well.  I always wondered where that came from and found a few research studies on it awhile back.   You'll also notice that young males today also have more of a lisp, even for straight males.

This is no different than today where we see the media pushing the LBGT agenda.  According to the CDC, only 2.3% of the US population is gay. 0.3% claims to be transgender  If you looked at the media & advertising, you'd think it was closer to 50%.  The whole Target bathroom bullshiat has to be one of the dumbest marketing moves ever.  They've wiped out 35% of their stock value to please 0.3%.  In the meantime, WalMart hasn't dipped at all and experienced modest gains.
 
2017-04-21 02:48:17 PM  

Teufelaffe: /obl


I'm betting the millennials could spell appearance.

- Sofa
 
2017-04-21 02:58:09 PM  

CowardlyLion: ADHD Librarian: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 425x425]

FTFA (fixed that for Aussies, our kids still know how to drive)
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How many onions you got on your belt?

/there's little excuse for the continued existence of shiatty, antiquated technology like that
//expects the elderly and irrational snobs will continue whining long after cars are all self-driving


Less complex, generally more robust, easier to service, cheaper to produce, often more efficient.... Yeah, that's obsolete.
 
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