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(Gizmodo)   Here's a full list of the accomplishments of Ajit Pai's FCC in only 90 days   ( gizmodo.com) divider line
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2017-04-20 07:02:17 PM  
This is exactly what happens when you put someone in charge of an agency that they actively despise and openly reject their authority at a fundamental level. But then again, Donnie has pretty much the entire Federal government up for sale at this point, so if citizens want to be a part of this, they'd best get together something fast before all the good deals are gone.

For those playing at home, you might want to take a look at your local unions. The Chambers of Commerce are going to be choked out soon enough, as are your State Legislatures, so you'd best organize, fast.
 
2017-04-20 09:47:33 PM  
TFA seems to drastically overstate the amount of broadband competition that exists.  There's no way that many people have 2 options.
 
2017-04-20 09:49:27 PM  

BMFPitt: TFA seems to drastically overstate the amount of broadband competition that exists.  There's no way that many people have 2 options.


I know if I want cable and internet from the same company I only have one choice currently.
 
2017-04-20 09:49:30 PM  
Some will claim Gizmodo is biased. Fair enough. But I still say that you're standing in line to have your holiest of holies lopped off if you vote for or these people who fill a cabinet with swine.
 
2017-04-20 09:49:56 PM  
Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.
 
2017-04-20 09:54:33 PM  

fusillade762: I know if I want cable and internet from the same company I only have one choice currently.


If I want internet higher than 1.5Mbps, I have one choice.  I have never had more than one, though there was a time when 1.5 was a reasonable option.
 
2017-04-20 09:54:57 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.


 It's just like Common Core. Originally an idea formed by cooperating governors, it became fashionable to claim it is a government takeover (Pavlov) of our education. If you can twist an idea, it will sell at the polls.

/got to, this America
 
2017-04-20 09:54:58 PM  

BMFPitt: TFA seems to drastically overstate the amount of broadband competition that exists.  There's no way that many people have 2 options.


My "options" were cable or a shait DSL connection.
 
2017-04-20 09:55:31 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.


Republicans don't give a flying fark about the 'free market'. Competition cuts into their donors' bottom line, so it must be crushed or absorbed.

Short-term profits over all. That's the GOP philosophy.
 
2017-04-20 09:58:01 PM  
The cap prevents prices from going up, not down.  If there were really sufficient competition already, the cap wouldn't matter.  There's only one reason to remove the cap: if you want and expect prices to go up without it.
 
2017-04-20 09:59:17 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.


I just like when hardcore supporters don't understand that Comcast could get a super liberal CEO or a few board members that decide "You know what, if you want access to FOX, Breitbart, Infowars, etc. you need to pay an extra $15 a month...also we're the only internet provider available in your area."

Even R/The_Donald supports net neutrality (would be nice if they called their congressmen about it).
 
2017-04-20 10:00:52 PM  
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Bite the pillow they're going in dry.
 
2017-04-20 10:03:51 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.


No. No. No.

The goal has NEVER been about a "Free Market."

There's lip service to that. There's plenty of Sturm und Drang about how a Free Market is their ultimate goal, because it's got Free in the name, and they are all about "Freedom."

Unless it's the freedom to say no, to them. Unless it's the freedom to worship wrong. Unless it's the freedom to choose your life wrong. Unless it's the freedom to disagree, with them. Those are important distinctions. Free is only so long as its in service to very narrow interests. And the Republicans haven't been about a "Free Market" for better than 60 years now. An Assisted Market, with key players chosen already, who have the field cleared of deadwood and competition is the goal. Too much competition means too little profit, and it causes market chaos. Plus, it's hard then to keep acquiring NEW companies as they spring up, and who wants that? Free market? No, the Assisted Market, one that is firmly guided by said market players, industry leaders, given subsidies and assistance to STAY ahead, and limiting competition is always the goal today.

But "Free Market" sounds better than "Old Boys Network"...
 
2017-04-20 10:04:09 PM  

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Bite the pillow they're going in dry.


That's what I pay now.  Yay monopoly pricing!
 
2017-04-20 10:06:00 PM  
It might make WISPs more competitive.
 
2017-04-20 10:06:03 PM  

shinji3i: HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.

I just like when hardcore supporters don't understand that Comcast could get a super liberal CEO or a few board members that decide "You know what, if you want access to FOX, Breitbart, Infowars, etc. you need to pay an extra $15 a month...also we're the only internet provider available in your area."

Even R/The_Donald supports net neutrality (would be nice if they called their congressmen about it).


Exactly.  Everyone who knows even the most basic facts about how the internet and ISPs works understands this, and thus supports NN regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum.  NN is as good for conservatives as it is for liberals.

The only people who don't support NN at this point are:
1. Major shareholders of broadband providers
2. Bought and paid-for shills
3. People who don't know WTF they're talking about
...or some combination of the above.
 
2017-04-20 10:07:23 PM  

hubiestubert: HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.

No. No. No.

The goal has NEVER been about a "Free Market."

There's lip service to that. There's plenty of Sturm und Drang about how a Free Market is their ultimate goal, because it's got Free in the name, and they are all about "Freedom."

Unless it's the freedom to say no, to them. Unless it's the freedom to worship wrong. Unless it's the freedom to choose your life wrong. Unless it's the freedom to disagree, with them. Those are important distinctions. Free is only so long as its in service to very narrow interests. And the Republicans haven't been about a "Free Market" for better than 60 years now. An Assisted Market, with key players chosen already, who have the field cleared of deadwood and competition is the goal. Too much competition means too little profit, and it causes market chaos. Plus, it's hard then to keep acquiring NEW companies as they spring up, and who wants that? Free market? No, the Assisted Market, one that is firmly guided by said market players, industry leaders, given subsidies and assistance to STAY ahead, and limiting competition is always the goal today.

But "Free Market" sounds better than "Old Boys Network"...


I know that, and you know that.  I with their idiot voters would figure it out already, it's not like it isn't obvious.

/oops, hope I didn't hurt their feelings
 
2017-04-20 10:08:07 PM  

fusillade762: BMFPitt: TFA seems to drastically overstate the amount of broadband competition that exists.  There's no way that many people have 2 options.

I know if I want cable and internet from the same company I only have one choice currently.


We had two choices, and that was in Orange County.
 
2017-04-20 10:09:11 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: The only people who don't support NN at this point are:
1. Major shareholders of broadband providers
2. Bought and paid-for shills
3. People who don't know WTF they're talking about
...or some combination of the above.


Don't forget stigginit.
 
2017-04-20 10:13:05 PM  
My god. Supremely punchable face aside, this is massively obvious pay-for-play.

/every day I wake up thinking: 'it can't get worse'
//every day, proven wrong
 
2017-04-20 10:20:57 PM  
This is how you get Network 23, Zik-Zak and blipverts.
 
2017-04-20 10:21:07 PM  
 
2017-04-20 10:37:13 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: "McChesney, whose wife is Norwegian, says that in Norway, 'There are people paying much less for this really good modern service,' asking, 'Why the hell can't we have this?' As he puts it, 'the rip-off prices people pay for their AT&T and Verizon cellphones, and their cable contracts and their satellite dishes' could be a big issue moving forward, especially if some politician 'has the courage to raise that issue.' Google could also prove to be a player in the industry, begrudgingly, with its own broadband service, Google Fiber.

The company started installing its own internet in municipalities like Kansas City and Austin, 'just to show,' McChesney says, 'that we can actually have speeds that are 1,000 times greater than what we have.' Calling it a 'shot over the bow to AT&T and Verizon,' McChesney says Fiber is the telecom equivalent of Google saying, 'Come on, you jerks. You're making all this money. Let's invest in a decent network so we can have high speeds like other places in the world.'"


But then...people will USE the service. They'll use it, and they'll expect that level of quality. I mean, it will mean the death of cable companies. And telcoms invested in cable companies as well...they can't afford that sort of loss. What are you, some sort of Commie?
 
2017-04-20 11:10:40 PM  
It's called the Digital Divide and it will just get larger under Trump, much like income disparity.  The poor, including many disadvantaged students, will fall further behind under these policies as the policies adversely affect the poor's ability to access the internet.  But then all you need to understand this is Congressman Sensenbrenner's comment that no one really needs to use the internet and you see how many in Congress are OK with it.
 
2017-04-20 11:28:37 PM  
Well, it looks like my free porn won't be "free" anymore. Sad face. Limp willy.
 
2017-04-20 11:50:33 PM  
As Motherboard noted, the Obama-era FCC pointed to research showing that 97 percent of BDS locations are served by just two providers, which doesn't sound a lot like sufficient competition.

To be fair, for a telecom "sufficient competition" means the guy in the cubicle next to theirs having a better geek toy spread on his desk.
 
2017-04-21 12:05:10 AM  
Scrapping restrictions on rates for prison phone calls

That one really pisses me off. They charge sex line rates for no reason. There is absolutely NO justification in this day and age to charge anywhere even remotely near what they charge for these farking phone calls. All it does is further marginalize the poor. This is in no way an effective part of a sentence, so it can't be justified that way. It's just price gouging, and complete bullshiat. Combine this with private prisons, and we're raping people for billions here on top of them serving a sentence for mostly minor crimes. Nobody should be gouged for a simple phone call the way prisoners are, and it's just going to get worse. Fark this asshat, the guy needs to be fed ass-first into a wood chipper, along with that entire cabinet of greedy farks.

"Drain the swamp". Yeah, right. Trump managed to poor toxic waste into that swamp, and then drain it into the nation's aquifer.
 
2017-04-21 12:13:55 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.  Republicans should LOVE that shiat.  But instead, their corporate cocksucking instincts get in the way, and make them support a huge move away from market competition, a move that will probably vastly harm US leadership in e-commerce.


But that has been exploited to its fullest, and now that we are hooked, it's time to clamp down on that "free market" stuff and really gouge the consumer. Republicans only like that "supporting the rise of the little guy" until the big guy gets to be a certain size, then they support the fark out of the Big Guy, and fark those entrepreneurs.
 
2017-04-21 12:55:20 AM  

KodosZardoz: Well, it looks like my free porn won't be "free" anymore. Sad face. Limp willy.


Jokes on them. I've downloaded it all already.
 
2017-04-21 03:12:23 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Despite my very low opinion of Republicans, I have to say that their lust to get rid of net neutrality is extremely confusing.  Net neutrality is the "free market" in its purest form, the thing that allowed many innovative entrepreneurs to create new businesses and jobs, not to mention billions upon billions of GDP.


Free market:  everyone follows rules that ensure competition

Republicans' free market:  everyone should get to cheat
 
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