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2017-04-20 12:47:22 PM  
These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-​m​aranatha-story.html
 
2017-04-20 12:52:49 PM  
What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????
 
2017-04-20 12:54:55 PM  

Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????


Everything's bigger in Texas.  Even child sex slavery it seems.
 
2017-04-20 12:56:29 PM  

shortymac: The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!


If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.
 
2017-04-20 12:57:13 PM  

shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html


That was me.  Back when I worked in the Family law section in my courthouse, and even though that was a LONG time ago, that girl and her face stays with me, particularly the helplessness on he face when I first met her, and was a significant part of why I chose to make the leap to become a lawyer myself
 
2017-04-20 01:08:14 PM  

shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html


Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Murphys" and the blind eye that's turned to their practices...
 
2017-04-20 01:30:21 PM  

cman: If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.


Yeah...."Hard Candy" style.  Jesus.
 
2017-04-20 02:09:15 PM  

Magorn: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Murphys" and the blind eye that's turned ...


I've heard about the Travelers (tinkers) from my Irish grandparents, but I have never heard of a "Murphy".
 
2017-04-20 02:45:21 PM  
Ugh. So selfish.
 
2017-04-20 02:50:07 PM  
That article wasn't worth publishing without more information about why it even happened. There's nothing in there about who the husband was and why the mother paired them up. Were there religious reasons?  Cultural?
 
2017-04-20 02:51:19 PM  
How are conservatives going to get wives?
Won't anyone think of the child molesters?
 
2017-04-20 02:51:59 PM  
Well that's almost definitely the most farked up thing I'm going to read for a while. People are just farking awful.

And good on you, Magorn, for helping.
 
2017-04-20 02:51:59 PM  
It actually isn't legal in Texas and hasn't been since November 8, 2005. It violates Article I §32 of the Texas State Constitution as amended on that day.

Then again, so does all other marriage.

That's right: there is no such thing as a husband, wife, or legitimate child, as far as the Constitution of the State of Texas is concerned, anywhere in the state (even if the marriage had been done before then and/or elsewhere, or even if you're just visiting or just passing through). And if you were "married" in Texas on or after that date, your "marriage" isn't valid anywhere since the Constitution of Texas did not recognize it in the state where it was done.
 
2017-04-20 02:52:25 PM  

shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Murphys" and the blind eye that' ...


Murphy is a southern colloquialism for American Travellers, mostly immigrated Irish ones who tend to settle in South Carolina in an area called Murphysville which is basically less of a tow and more of a Traveler compound.  If you live on the East Coast and someone has ever knocked on your down and offered to refinish your driveway with materials they have left over from a paving job they were supposedly doing elsewhere?  That's a "Murphy" and yes, it is a scam
 
2017-04-20 02:53:04 PM  

shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html


Isnt the rule of thumb half your age minus 10.
 
2017-04-20 02:53:20 PM  
Probably should have brought it up to an earlier administration
 
2017-04-20 02:53:33 PM  

cman: shortymac: The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.


not yourreligion, maybe
 
2017-04-20 02:54:18 PM  

Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????


Kansas has Texas beat, I guess.  13 years-old, with mom's approval.  Statutory rape can be cured with a marriage license.
 
2017-04-20 02:54:39 PM  

Magorn: shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Murphys" and the blin ...


Yeah my Father told me about that scam, we're from Philly and it only happened to us once. My Dad called him out on being a tinker and they GTFO.
 
2017-04-20 02:56:30 PM  
But, what if I accidentally marry a cousin?

/ don't look at me like that. It happens. Especially if you've never met them before.

// thanksgiving is going to be AWKWARD
 
2017-04-20 02:58:53 PM  

Aquapope: Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????

Kansas has Texas beat, I guess.  13 years-old, with mom's approval.  Statutory rape can be cured with a marriage license.


""The families are all united in this effort," Yoesel said. "I don't know who is complaining. ... What benefit is there to anybody in the prosecution of this young man?" "

What. The. Actual. fark?
 
2017-04-20 02:59:57 PM  

cman: shortymac: The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.


It shouldn't be, but the "sincerely held belief" Christians sure WANT to make their religion a "do whatever the fark you want" card.  But only for them.  Islam doesn't count.
 
2017-04-20 03:00:22 PM  

Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????


No it's not.  16 y/o can get married with a parents permission.  Everywhere in western world but USA, 16 is the age of consent.  And no, forced marriages are never legal.  Part of the process is that the 16 y/o is emancipated which allows them to divorce and also not to consent to the marriage.

/And yes, human trafficking for sex slave trade should be investigated at all levels of Government.  Too bad the Obama administration gutted local enforcement because arresting traffickers included identifying people in the country illegally.  Look for "rape trees."
 
2017-04-20 03:00:30 PM  

COMALite J: It actually isn't legal in Texas and hasn't been since November 8, 2005. It violates Article I §32 of the Texas State Constitution as amended on that day.

Then again, so does all other marriage.

That's right: there is no such thing as a husband, wife, or legitimate child, as far as the Constitution of the State of Texas is concerned, anywhere in the state (even if the marriage had been done before then and/or elsewhere, or even if you're just visiting or just passing through). And if you were "married" in Texas on or after that date, your "marriage" isn't valid anywhere since the Constitution of Texas did not recognize it in the state where it was done.


The marriage occurred in the 1980s when it was legal at the time, where the age of consent was 14. It's why David Koresh had so many young "wives", it was still incredibly unethical and creepy but technical legal.
 
2017-04-20 03:01:40 PM  
And this is violence, violence against females.

Remember this the next time we have a good old fashioned Islam bashing on here.

I wish people would grow up intellectually and emotionally and kick religion to the dustbin of history where it belongs.
 
2017-04-20 03:03:10 PM  

Saiga410: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Isnt the rule of thumb half your age minus 10.


Not when children are involved...
 
2017-04-20 03:03:25 PM  

tbeatty: Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????

No it's not.  16 y/o can get married with a parents permission.  Everywhere in western world but USA, 16 is the age of consent.  And no, forced marriages are never legal.  Part of the process is that the 16 y/o is emancipated which allows them to divorce and also not to consent to the marriage.

/And yes, human trafficking for sex slave trade should be investigated at all levels of Government.  Too bad the Obama administration gutted local enforcement because arresting traffickers included identifying people in the country illegally.  Look for "rape trees."


Obama gutted local law enforcement?  I think I would have noticed if he had shown up at one of our city council meetings.
 
2017-04-20 03:05:53 PM  

Aquapope: tbeatty: Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????

No it's not.  16 y/o can get married with a parents permission.  Everywhere in western world but USA, 16 is the age of consent.  And no, forced marriages are never legal.  Part of the process is that the 16 y/o is emancipated which allows them to divorce and also not to consent to the marriage.

/And yes, human trafficking for sex slave trade should be investigated at all levels of Government.  Too bad the Obama administration gutted local enforcement because arresting traffickers included identifying people in the country illegally.  Look for "rape trees."

Obama gutted local law enforcement?  I think I would have noticed if he had shown up at one of our city council meetings.


You didn't notice him lurking in the shadows in his magic LIBRUL time machine?
 
2017-04-20 03:05:56 PM  

cman: shortymac: The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.


Interestingly, Texas just had another case of hyper-fundy insanity, with some Duggar-alikes who kept their kids out of school, away from doctors and any contact with the government at all.  The kids ended up without birth certificates, SSNs or any other form of ID to prove that they existed.  One of the older daughters had to literally escape the house with the aid of the grandparents and then sue her parents to cough up any form of document to prove she was a citizen.

You know you're completely off the wall when your child raising practices end up creating a law in Texas just for cases like yours.
 
2017-04-20 03:06:17 PM  
Unfortunately, Texas doesn't care what a woman thinks.
 
2017-04-20 03:06:56 PM  
The real news of this story, is that the bill is being sponsored by a Republican. Get that, a Texas republican standing on the right side of history.

There is hope.
 
2017-04-20 03:07:12 PM  

shortymac: COMALite J: It actually isn't legal in Texas and hasn't been since November 8, 2005. It violates Article I §32 of the Texas State Constitution as amended on that day.

Then again, so does all other marriage.

That's right: there is no such thing as a husband, wife, or legitimate child, as far as the Constitution of the State of Texas is concerned, anywhere in the state (even if the marriage had been done before then and/or elsewhere, or even if you're just visiting or just passing through). And if you were "married" in Texas on or after that date, your "marriage" isn't valid anywhere since the Constitution of Texas did not recognize it in the state where it was done.

The marriage occurred in the 1980s when it was legal at the time, where the age of consent was 14. It's why David Koresh had so many young "wives", it was still incredibly unethical and creepy but technical legal.

Even so, the marriage would've ceased to be recognized under the Texas State Constitution on November 8, 2005. Notice that I specified, "(even if done before then or elsewhere,...)."
 
2017-04-20 03:12:08 PM  

shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Murphys" and the blin ...

Yeah my Father told me about that scam, we're from Philly and it only happened to us once. My Dad called him out on being a tinker and they GTFO.


As someone who's re-reading the Wheel of Time seires, this whole conversation about tinkers is very odd.
 
2017-04-20 03:16:17 PM  
The religious nutjobs really care about the children. As the children are forms of currency and/or indentured servants, the right of a parent to use his or her children as he or she and God see fit is an important inalienable property right, not to be limited by the government.

Because Jesus wants your teenage daughter to get farked first by someone old enough to be her dad. Must be one of those things JWD.
 
2017-04-20 03:16:27 PM  
/Approves of that situation:
i2.wp.com
 
2017-04-20 03:16:47 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: cman: shortymac: The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

If you live in America, your religion isnt a do whatever the fark you want card. This needs to be remedied and this kind of nonsense stopped.

Interestingly, Texas just had another case of hyper-fundy insanity, with some Duggar-alikes who kept their kids out of school, away from doctors and any contact with the government at all.  The kids ended up without birth certificates, SSNs or any other form of ID to prove that they existed.  One of the older daughters had to literally escape the house with the aid of the grandparents and then sue her parents to cough up any form of document to prove she was a citizen.

You know you're completely off the wall when your child raising practices end up creating a law in Texas just for cases like yours.


I remember listening to that podcast, that family was completely abusive and ID abuse should be a proper crime.
 
2017-04-20 03:21:13 PM  
www2.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2017-04-20 03:21:37 PM  

iheartscotch: Aquapope: tbeatty: Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????

No it's not.  16 y/o can get married with a parents permission.  Everywhere in western world but USA, 16 is the age of consent.  And no, forced marriages are never legal.  Part of the process is that the 16 y/o is emancipated which allows them to divorce and also not to consent to the marriage.

/And yes, human trafficking for sex slave trade should be investigated at all levels of Government.  Too bad the Obama administration gutted local enforcement because arresting traffickers included identifying people in the country illegally.  Look for "rape trees."

Obama gutted local law enforcement?  I think I would have noticed if he had shown up at one of our city council meetings.

You didn't notice him lurking in the shadows in his magic LIBRUL time machine?


Silly rabbit, everything bad that happened when the black guy was president was his fault. He personally disbanded all the local cops and told them to go home, he's got this, then he went out to get cigarettes and was never seen around there again.
 
2017-04-20 03:23:49 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Unfortunately, Texas doesn't care what a woman thinks.


They used to , when Ann Richards was in charge.  God, I wish she and Molly Ivins were still around.  Many Herps and Derps would know what it was to be roasted in the depths of the acerbic wit that day, I can tell you!
 
2017-04-20 03:35:06 PM  

Jagernaut: shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: Magorn: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Yeah with Evangelicals of a certain persuasion  you "Job" as regards to you daughters is only one thing: ensuring they are "pure" and virgins on their wedding night.  One way to do that is to basically marry them off st the first signs of sexual maturity, especially if they give any indications of being "trouble" (ie independently minded)  Because of the farked-up views of gender roles in such Churches, a "pure" girl like that is also expected to "redeem" a wayward man, who, upon obtaining a wife, it is believed will suddenly become a godly upright head of household despite having shown NO capacity for that previously (and if he keeps straying?  Well that is OBVIOUSLY the fault of his wife for not "keeping him home" by satisfying his every whim...see Duggar, Joshua)  Also for the Quiverful types, every year past child-bearing age that a woman remains unmarried is one less baby she can make for Jesus' army so, they also tend to try to match them off young (the fact that one of the Duggar daughters is umarried in her 20's is something of a scandal in their world and causes some to question is they are REAL quiverful people or faking it for the celebrity it brings)

And don;t even get me Started on the American Travelers and "Mu ...


Yeah, and in the Kingkiller Chronicles (Name of the Wind) tinkers being looked at as "good" was weird for me. Hard to say the word without an urge to spit.

I admit that it is a bit of old-timey Irish racism.
 
2017-04-20 03:35:30 PM  
 Texas.
Basically Saudi Arabia with more cowboy hats.
 
2017-04-20 03:35:39 PM  

Aquapope: Uchiha_Cycliste: Unfortunately, Texas doesn't care what a woman thinks.

They used to , when Ann Richards was in charge.  God, I wish she and Molly Ivins were still around.  Many Herps and Derps would know what it was to be roasted in the depths of the acerbic wit that day, I can tell you!


I grew up seeing them as what a woman does in politics and public discourse. It boggles my mind that some people don't think women should be in those sorts of roles.
 
2017-04-20 03:38:41 PM  

HypnozombieX: Texas.
Basically Saudi Arabia with more cowboy hats.


Exactly. They also have a town named "White Settlement" (just outside of Ft. Worth) and are DAMN PROUD OF IT!
 
2017-04-20 03:42:24 PM  
Hey more and more courts are saying rapist fathers deserve custody rights too.  So there's no escape.  Sure makes for an awkward fathers day card.  I'm sure hallmark will have a section hollowed out soon.
 
2017-04-20 03:47:47 PM  

Ambivalence: What the fark?  That's presently legal in Texas????


It's legal in many other states, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
 
2017-04-20 03:48:08 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Aquapope: Uchiha_Cycliste: Unfortunately, Texas doesn't care what a woman thinks.

They used to , when Ann Richards was in charge.  God, I wish she and Molly Ivins were still around.  Many Herps and Derps would know what it was to be roasted in the depths of the acerbic wit that day, I can tell you!

I grew up seeing them as what a woman does in politics and public discourse. It boggles my mind that some people don't think women should be in those sorts of roles.


well, you gotta understand. The problem isn't that they are women. The problem is that they aren't men.
 
2017-04-20 03:49:57 PM  

shortymac: Saiga410: shortymac: These situations are very sad and tragic. I'm so happy she got out.

There was one story a farker told of helping out a 15 year old who was forcibly married to her molestor by her mother, after she left she tried to get a divorce from the man but couldn't because she was under 18 still haunts me.

The quiverfull and hyper-evangelical community is completely complicit in this as well, the marriage of a child bride of 15 to a 28 year old man. He had shown an interest in her at 13 and he 26!

Then that couple married off their daughter at 16 to a 26 year old who "had an interest in her for many years"!

link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/12/the-rest-of-the-m​aranatha-story.html

Isnt the rule of thumb half your age minus 10.

Not when children are involved...


Do the math.  I purposely flubbed it.

IIRC Half plus 7 is the usual for creepy
 
2017-04-20 04:01:52 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: HypnozombieX: Texas.
Basically Saudi Arabia with more cowboy hats.

Exactly. They also have a town named "White Settlement" (just outside of Ft. Worth) and are DAMN PROUD OF IT!


Wow...just wow.
 
2017-04-20 04:04:17 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I May Be Crazy But...: Aquapope: Uchiha_Cycliste: Unfortunately, Texas doesn't care what a woman thinks.

They used to , when Ann Richards was in charge.  God, I wish she and Molly Ivins were still around.  Many Herps and Derps would know what it was to be roasted in the depths of the acerbic wit that day, I can tell you!

I grew up seeing them as what a woman does in politics and public discourse. It boggles my mind that some people don't think women should be in those sorts of roles.

well, you gotta understand. The problem isn't that they are women. The problem is that they aren't men.

On the other hand, if Ann Richards had not become Governor of Texas, George W. Bush wouldn't've succeeded her since Clayton Richards would've been Governor instead and (unless he really obviously messed things up) there would've been no reason for the Texas State GOP to run someone against him.

Without GWB's turn as Governor of Texas, he would never have been taken seriously as a candidate for President of the USA, no matter who his daddy was.

So add Clayton's one of which happening differently could've prevented the current dire situation that the USA and Western Civilization are in.
 
2017-04-20 04:05:10 PM  
WEIRD.
 
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