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(Variety)   Sony picks up the Wheel of Time series for television production. With any luck it will be 14 seasons with a completely new production team to finish out the last 3   ( variety.com) divider line
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2017-04-20 11:32:32 AM  
If they can make Rand less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.
 
2017-04-20 11:39:50 AM  

FortyHams: If they can make Rand

 every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs
 
2017-04-20 11:47:13 AM  
Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show
 
2017-04-20 11:55:44 AM  

Oreminer: FortyHams: If they can make Rand every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs


One of the things I really didn't like about the book is how he based every female off his wife... and how the plot went off the rails, I quit after book 10.

I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.
 
2017-04-20 11:59:21 AM  

shortymac: Oreminer: FortyHams: If they can make Rand every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs

One of the things I really didn't like about the book is how he based every female off his wife... and how the plot went off the rails, I quit after book 10.

I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.


There is definitely a lot of fluff that can be cut out. A lot of Rand navel gazing and Perin wandering around in the snow. Don't cut any Matrim parts though, all gold.
 
2017-04-20 12:23:34 PM  

shortymac: I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.


I think the last three books that Sanderson wrote were much improved on the wandering that started around Path of Daggers.  Jordan sprawled the threads out pretty far for Sanderson to bring them all together for the last three books and I think he did as commendable job as he could in that task.
 
2017-04-20 12:41:53 PM  

shortymac: Oreminer: FortyHams: If they can make Rand every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs

One of the things I really didn't like about the book is how he based every female off his wife... and how the plot went off the rails, I quit after book 10.

I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.


Only on his wife? That's either some kind of grand homage or a dire insult... The women in the series are... Well, let's just call them throwbacks to the 50s. The men aren't much better, honestly, but at least they run a full gamut of personalities.

I wish I could say Min was different... but she's not. Surface differentials is all. Men are all ignorant pigs and worthy only of bowing to women's wills.

Conversely from Men's perspectives, women are all manipulative and confusing, but must be obeyed and protected.

The Aeil aren't really different either, sadly. On the surface they are, but dig past the surface bits, and they're not.

The gender norms expressed, from both male and female perspectives, were honestly the most hard to accept parts of the books. But maybe that's a modern perspective talking.

The amount of times I wanted to slap the characters for being stupid...
 
2017-04-20 12:48:53 PM  

mephox: shortymac: Oreminer: FortyHams: If they can make Rand every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs

One of the things I really didn't like about the book is how he based every female off his wife... and how the plot went off the rails, I quit after book 10.

I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.

Only on his wife? That's either some kind of grand homage or a dire insult... The women in the series are... Well, let's just call them throwbacks to the 50s. The men aren't much better, honestly, but at least they run a full gamut of personalities.

I wish I could say Min was different... but she's not. Surface differentials is all. Men are all ignorant pigs and worthy only of bowing to women's wills.

Conversely from Men's perspectives, women are all manipulative and confusing, but must be obeyed and protected.

The Aeil aren't really different either, sadly. On the surface they are, but dig past the surface bits, and they're not.

The gender norms expressed, from both male and female perspectives, were honestly the most hard to accept parts of the books. But maybe that's a modern perspective talking.

The amount of times I wanted to slap the characters for being stupid...


I had heard that a long time ago... I forget the source now.
 
2017-04-20 12:53:59 PM  
I'm sure this will turn out just as well as the Shannara Chronicles did.

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2017-04-20 12:56:47 PM  
I think they mean to challenge General Hospital as longest running show.  It could take 54 years to cover all the books if they keep the same pace as Jordan.
 
2017-04-20 12:59:42 PM  
Meh. I think I got 3 books into that and got bored.  I don't' recall why I didn't care for it, I just couldn't slog through.
 
2017-04-20 12:59:50 PM  
Sony? Yeah, right... they'll fark it up just like every other comic or sci-fi movie they've ever made.
 
2017-04-20 01:01:44 PM  
So can we skip entire episodes that don't feature Mat?  Will the last three seasons be better than all the previous ones?
 
2017-04-20 01:02:27 PM  

freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show


All they had to work with was hamfisted Ayn Randian lecturing, a reminder every two paragraphs that Richard and Khalawhoever love each other, and dominatrix bodyguards.

They should have saved some money for production value by buying the rights to a better story.
 
2017-04-20 01:03:50 PM  

freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show


Farking up the Sword of Truth would be an improvement.
(Evil pacifists!)
(DEVIL CHICKENS)
 
2017-04-20 01:04:45 PM  
They'll complete and air all 14 seasons of Wheel of Time before book three of Kingkiller Chronicles comes out.
 
2017-04-20 01:04:59 PM  

freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show


Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.
 
2017-04-20 01:07:23 PM  

freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show


You mean the dickhead that thinks he's the Ayn Rand of fantasy books. fark him.
 
2017-04-20 01:08:30 PM  
They'd better hire a really good script doctor for this, or we're going to get entire episodes in which three words are spoken, braids are tugged repeatedly, and nothing related to the actual story happens.
 
2017-04-20 01:09:18 PM  

FortyHams: shortymac: Oreminer: FortyHams: If they can make Rand every female character less annoying from book 3 to book 14 that would be swell.

FTFY
/pulls braid and sniffs

One of the things I really didn't like about the book is how he based every female off his wife... and how the plot went off the rails, I quit after book 10.

I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.

There is definitely a lot of fluff that can be cut out. A lot of Rand navel gazing and Perin wandering around in the snow. Don't cut any Matrim parts though, all gold.


The only real reason I stuck out as long as I did.  Logain was also an interesting side character.
 
2017-04-20 01:09:56 PM  
Oh boy, I hope they spend half of every episode dwelling on how men and women are different and even they way they practise magic is different, with the other half dedicated to polygamy and braid-tugging.
 
2017-04-20 01:14:22 PM  
Unlike most everyone else in here I am stoked. Give it to me.
 
2017-04-20 01:16:31 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.


Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.
 
2017-04-20 01:17:12 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Unlike most everyone else in here I am stoked. Give it to me.


Well, some of us aren't necessarily down on it, and just saw a sudden good excuse to dogpile on The Sword of Truth series.
 
amb
2017-04-20 01:18:23 PM  
The first book feels like it was meant to be done in 1. Get them to the Eye. About 2/3 through it became clear it would not wrap up in the book. I had thought after that it wouldbe a trilogy.  Oh how wrong I was. Still liked them, but haven't finished the series.

Series will have a good drinking game. Take a shot for every braid pull.
 
2017-04-20 01:19:36 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.


I read through that entire series, and jesus they were bad.  THe first was good until it just turned into some BDSM fantasy.  The one where Richard single-handedly creates capitalism and makes the masses revolt with his sculpting skills was the absolute worst.

Or where there was some villain who could take control of people, and slip in and out of their minds.  Richard was able to kill him.  Not because of some great plan, but because he was fast.

Or inciting a riot with football.

fark, they were awful.  I'm just glad I was able to pick the entire series up at St. Vinnie's for less than $5.
 
2017-04-20 01:20:35 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.

Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.


To date this is the only series I've started that I haven't finished (where finish the series is possible), mainly because of this crap.
 
2017-04-20 01:20:47 PM  

amb: The first book feels like it was meant to be done in 1. Get them to the Eye. About 2/3 through it became clear it would not wrap up in the book. I had thought after that it wouldbe a trilogy.  Oh how wrong I was. Still liked them, but haven't finished the series.

Series will have a good drinking game. Take a shot for every braid pull.


I thought it was originally intended to be a trilogy, or a five-book series.
 
2017-04-20 01:21:14 PM  

Felgraf: Jingle Strangle: Unlike most everyone else in here I am stoked. Give it to me.

Well, some of us aren't necessarily down on it, and just saw a sudden good excuse to dogpile on The Sword of Truth series.


Down on it? There's like 2,000 open parts to be cast, odds are at least one of us will be IN IT.

I do hope it turns out well though. Wheel of Time is my favorite series, traveling circus and all.
 
2017-04-20 01:22:40 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.

Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.


I facepalmed so hard when I read "I understand the jargon of emblems"
 
2017-04-20 01:23:08 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.

Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.


Let's not forget fighting the evils of communist/socialist caricatures with the power of sculpture.
 
2017-04-20 01:25:36 PM  

Oreminer: shortymac: I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.

I think the last three books that Sanderson wrote were much improved on the wandering that started around Path of Daggers.  Jordan sprawled the threads out pretty far for Sanderson to bring them all together for the last three books and I think he did as commendable job as he could in that task.


I'd actually rather see one of Sanderson's series turned into a show... The Stormlight Archive, at least so far, would be cool to watch.
 
2017-04-20 01:26:59 PM  

miscreant: Oreminer: shortymac: I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.

I think the last three books that Sanderson wrote were much improved on the wandering that started around Path of Daggers.  Jordan sprawled the threads out pretty far for Sanderson to bring them all together for the last three books and I think he did as commendable job as he could in that task.

I'd actually rather see one of Sanderson's series turned into a show... The Stormlight Archive, at least so far, would be cool to watch.


What about the mistborn series
 
2017-04-20 01:27:02 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.

Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.


But.... But... That was the best part  of Fantarandian ideology! The "I was born into power so that's okay because I got mine. But all you peasants need to work your way up through blood, sweat, and tears. But mostly blood." mentality is what really defines the insanity of Randian philosophy.
 
2017-04-20 01:29:20 PM  

Teufelaffe: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: freddyV: Hope they don't FARK this up like they did the Sword of Truth tv show

Sorry, but those 11 books of "SOCIALISM BAD. RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM GOOD" got the show that they so richly deserved.

Best part was Richard lecturing everyone that they didn't deserve anything they didn't work for and earn themselves, after inheriting a kingdom and solving every "plotline" by showing up and his magic just fixing everything by itself. Because it just does that without him ever learning to use it or having a plan.

Or mastering the Sword because he was born to wield it, or instantly deciphering a written magical language because he just does.

Let's not forget fighting the evils of communist/socialist caricatures with the power of sculpture.


A sculpture of himself no less.
 
2017-04-20 01:32:32 PM  

veale728: miscreant: Oreminer: shortymac: I heard Sanderson really cleaned up the plot but I don't quite want to redo the series.

I think the last three books that Sanderson wrote were much improved on the wandering that started around Path of Daggers.  Jordan sprawled the threads out pretty far for Sanderson to bring them all together for the last three books and I think he did as commendable job as he could in that task.

I'd actually rather see one of Sanderson's series turned into a show... The Stormlight Archive, at least so far, would be cool to watch.

What about the mistborn series


Yep, that one would be good too. I haven't actually read anything by Sanderson that I didn't think was pretty good. I was happy when I found out he was the one who was going to finish off WoT, and he did a good job, but Jordan left him quite a mess to clean up, so there was only so much he could do.
 
2017-04-20 01:36:07 PM  
I hope they add the one scene missing from the last book of Mat introducing Arthur to Tuon. Gold.
 
2017-04-20 01:36:17 PM  
I really like the Wheel of Time books.

I've read the first 7 more than once, and kept with them through 9 or 10, but ragequit because Moiraine was on the cover, but doesn't appear in the book, and because 8 had felt like an entire book of prologue, and the next books didn't improve much.

I've been told that Sanderson did an amazing job finishing it up, and do plan to finish the series, but I'm going through it with my lady currently (I read it aloud to her) and I decided I wanted to experience the new stuff along with her.  We're currently in book four, and have been for a while now.  It's been slow going to some extent, but if the previous books are any indication, sometime in the next few months we'll finish this one and get a quarter of the way through the next one in the span of a week or so, and then take another break.

That said, things don't get much cooler than your favourite band writing songs based on some of your favourite books.

Wheel of Time (Blind Guardian)
Youtube JF4tjhI3D0A
 
2017-04-20 01:36:52 PM  
And also:
Blind Guardian - Ride Into Obsession
Youtube 0WXeHT661xM
 
2017-04-20 01:39:26 PM  
Here you go.. the pilot episode:

Wheel of Time TV pilot Winter Dragon
Youtube 7ZOCCEuROPk


You're welcome!
 
2017-04-20 01:41:14 PM  
I'm still sitting here waiting for a Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser movie or series. Fantastic source material conveniently packaged into serial short stories (typically short stories and novellas made better adaptations IMO). Plus they really haven't been a big part of SciFi / Fantasy culture for about 25 years, so there's fewer fanboy expectations to shatter.
 
2017-04-20 01:45:33 PM  
If they reused the GoT cast...

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2017-04-20 01:47:26 PM  
There's a book series that was in serious need of a ruthless editor to cut out the multiple chapters of incoherent rambling that went nowhere.  The story could have easily been done in three to five books without suffering any negative consequences.
 
2017-04-20 01:47:40 PM  

Jingle Strangle: If they reused the GoT cast...

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[img.fark.net image 115x115] Thom Merrilyn [img.fark.net image 115x115] Mat [img.fark.net image 115x115] Faile [img.fark.net image 115x115] Elayne
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[img.fark.net image 115x115] Sammael [img.fark.net image 115x115] Logain [img.fark.net image 115x115] Loial [img.fark.net image 115x115] Gareth Bryne

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Made me snort there at the end.
 
2017-04-20 01:49:20 PM  

PlaidJaguar: And also:
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This is one of my favorite cruising songs, because it makes even a boring commute seem impossibly epic.
 
2017-04-20 01:53:48 PM  

Ambivalence: Meh. I think I got 3 books into that and got bored.  I don't' recall why I didn't care for it, I just couldn't slog through.


Agree, painfully slow...glacial.
 
KIA
2017-04-20 01:54:16 PM  
Odds:

Dark and gritty Wheel of Time 3:2
HBO sexed-up WoT: 5:1
Producer demands werewolves be added because his daughter wants them: 1:4
GoT Sandsnake-style changes made to WoT women: 10:1
Source magic replaced by anime-style auras: 1:1
Charlie Sheen hired to write theme song: 1:1

Two and a Half Men - Oshikuru
Youtube j8PJpRKqMlQ
 
2017-04-20 02:10:31 PM  
With a good budget, a good editor, and good cast, it could be spectacular. There is so much possibility in the series to show off really moments and story. Trim the fat, fix the female characters, cut some chaff, and give it the kind of love and attention that GoT received, and it will be amazing.

Otherwise it's going to be like the Shannara nonsense on the CW or whatever it was.

I don't expect it will happen, though.
 
2017-04-20 02:15:35 PM  
Well the good news is that once they drop the books where nothing actually happens we'll be down to 10 or so

Too bad we'll have to wait six years or so for Dumai's Wells
 
2017-04-20 02:16:03 PM  
I have reread the WoT several times. If people want to pick it up for the first time, I just tell them to skim the chapters that are not focused on the main 3.

Sanderson did an amazing job wrapping it up. I imagine it was part of Jordan's outline, but the best thing Sanderson did was stop the emo-Rand nonsense.
 
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