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(NBC Washington)   DC Metro Chief: Thanks for all the funding, but we're going to need another $15.5 billion so we can run on time and not kill people and stuff   ( nbcwashington.com) divider line
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2017-04-20 10:38:33 AM  
About $2 billion of that is for "Stand on the right, walk on the left" education and enforcement.
 
2017-04-20 10:56:39 AM  
"Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL
 
2017-04-20 11:14:57 AM  
If it means not having to single-track the Orange Line every time there's rat (human?) droppings clogging up switch tracks, I'm all for it.  These "emergencies" happen every other day.
 
2017-04-20 11:36:00 AM  

MrBallou: "Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL


Just because he's posturing and ranting doesn't mean he's wrong.  And the leaders are a big part of the problems that have built up.  In the past:

Metro: "We're need to shut some lines down for a while for maintenance."
Leaders: "But people (who vote for me) will be inconvenienced, you can't do that"
Metro: "But we really need to ...."
Leaders: "HARUMPH!! HARUMPH!!"

Not a lot of harumphing these days as reality has set in.
 
2017-04-20 12:22:12 PM  
How much of this is for "administrative" costs?
 
2017-04-20 12:25:29 PM  
Read that as Metro Chef, and thought a visit from the health department might be in order.
 
2017-04-20 01:14:58 PM  

bighairyguy: MrBallou: "Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL

Just because he's posturing and ranting doesn't mean he's wrong.  And the leaders are a big part of the problems that have built up.  In the past:

Metro: "We're need to shut some lines down for a while for maintenance."
Leaders: "But people (who vote for me) will be inconvenienced, you can't do that"
Metro: "But we really need to ...."
Leaders: "HARUMPH!! HARUMPH!!"

Not a lot of harumphing these days as reality has set in.


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2017-04-20 01:16:09 PM  
It doesn't cost that much to fireproof all the subway cars, does it?
 
2017-04-20 01:32:40 PM  
sounds just as bad as BART in the Bay Area, overpaid employees and lousy service
 
2017-04-20 01:34:32 PM  
*reads TFA*

So the guy is asking that the $1.5 billion that he has been getting for some time be continued for the next ten years which will equal $15 billion.That will keep things running.

OK.

But he needs $7 billion more to fix things.
 
2017-04-20 01:37:24 PM  
I was shocked to hear on NPR this morning that metro has 9200 employees. Like... where are they all?  It only takes one person to run a train.  They're never in the 'help' kiosks.   Maybe some sanitary workers...  seriously I have no idea.
 
2017-04-20 01:40:13 PM  
They just re-hired the guy today that they fired for killing a woman by falsifying records. He said exhaust fans were working fine in a tunnel. They weren't, he never inspected them, and she died of smoke inhalation. So I don't put much trust in Metro.
 
2017-04-20 02:15:43 PM  
$11.5 Billion is for the Union workers.
 
2017-04-20 02:25:28 PM  
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They not only blocked the fire hydrant, they also blocked the entire crosswalk on a busy DC street. Safety first!
 
2017-04-20 02:26:07 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: sounds just as bad as BART in the Bay Area, overpaid employees and lousy service


Doesn't BART also have security guards that kill you randomly?
 
2017-04-20 02:34:56 PM  
Duh.  DC is run by democrats.  And like most other democratically run areas ... All they care about is having enough tax money and government grants to support those who refuse to even TRY to support themselves.
 
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2017-04-20 02:43:33 PM  

bighairyguy: MrBallou: "Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL

BHG: Just because he's posturing and ranting doesn't mean he's wrong.  And the leaders are a big part of the problems that have built up.  In the past:

Metro: "We're need to shut some lines down for a while for maintenance."
Leaders: "But people (who vote for me) will be inconvenienced, you can't do that"
Metro: "But we really need to ...."
Leaders: "HARUMPH!! HARUMPH!!"

Not a lot of harumphing these days as reality has set in.


This is exactly what has happened.  This system isn't even 50 years old and it is a perfect example of how organizations in DC are run as a whole.

In this case, however, the system has fallen apart so completely that it affects everyone who relies on it every day.  And nothing short of a financial miracle and competent management will even begin to start "fixing" it.

And it's going to take many, many years, if it happens at all.

Sad.
 
2017-04-20 02:44:30 PM  

solve4x: I was shocked to hear on NPR this morning that metro has 9200 employees. Like... where are they all?  It only takes one person to run a train.  They're never in the 'help' kiosks.   Maybe some sanitary workers...  seriously I have no idea.


Bus drivers
 
2017-04-20 02:45:02 PM  
Was there earlier this year and farking nobody rides the trains. They're spacious. I even went to Arlington at rush hour and I had zero trouble finding a seat. The platform was crowded, but they were all getting on different trains, so there was never any competition to get on one train.

I used to ride the 6 in New York and the 456 line alone carried more capacity than any other city's whole train system. You'd sit through three or four trains at rush hour and not be able to get on because they were all full. They need money.

WMATA miss basic service that's obvious in New York. All their LED signs in the trains say "BLUE" instead of "BLUE LINE - LARGO" (the direction/terminus) so you basically never get on the train in a hurry unless you take the same route every day. No mention of the next stop, either.

I got on a train that had limited service, it only went up to Mt Vernon Sq, I think. Didn't say it in the station,  no posters, no announcement. Didn't say when I got on. And when it stopped at Mt Vernon Sq, it said SQUAWK SQUAWK over the speakers, started moving past the station and stopped for two minutes in the tunnel. SQUAWK SQUAWK, then it started reversing. Anywhere else on the planet, they would have sat at the terminus and said "LAST STOP GET THE fark OFF" instead of picking up people on the northbound platform of the last stop.

They also have nearly zero ads. There are huge ads in the stations, and a few posters on the trains, but no crazy dermatologist ads to stare at above the seats. It's just blank. That's just throwing away money.

//besides that, nice city as always. really liked the fark trump stuff on every window or parking meter
 
2017-04-20 02:46:20 PM  
Public transit fails again. What a surprise.
 
2017-04-20 02:49:11 PM  

Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.


When fuel taxes pay for roads, fares can cover public transit 100%.
 
2017-04-20 02:49:21 PM  
Wake me when the Silver Line gets to Ashburn.
 
2017-04-20 02:50:26 PM  

Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.


How's the traffic on that 8 lane highway?
 
2017-04-20 02:53:07 PM  
Just add another lane!
a.abcnews.com
 
2017-04-20 02:55:20 PM  
Easy. Allow drinking, and guns on trains, install cameras, and post the videos on the metro site.
/I would pay $10 a month just to watch, and I live in Chicago.
//I could be a Youtube star just by riding the blue, green, and red lines here just filming everyday shiat, as a living
 
2017-04-20 02:56:31 PM  

Goimir: Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.

When fuel taxes pay for roads


Which they do. Thanks for playing.
 
2017-04-20 02:58:49 PM  

moothemagiccow: Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.

How's the traffic on that 8 lane highway?


Don't know, I don't drive. Any more stupid assumptions you want to make about people you don't know?
 
2017-04-20 03:01:42 PM  

Rueened: moothemagiccow: Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.

How's the traffic on that 8 lane highway?

Don't know, I don't drive. Any more stupid assumptions you want to make about people you don't know?


I'm going to assume this is you?
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-20 03:11:25 PM  
criminal negligence caused the system to be full of fire and smoke.
but let's give these same twaughts 15 bil.
good times
 
2017-04-20 03:12:31 PM  

bighairyguy: About $2 billion of that is for "Stand on the right, walk on the left" education and enforcement.


As a Virginian, this earns the rare "Smart" & "Funny" double
 
2017-04-20 03:17:02 PM  

MrBallou: "Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL


Yes.
So it needs to be taken over by the feds before more people die.
 
2017-04-20 03:34:52 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: *reads TFA*

So the guy is asking that the $1.5 billion that he has been getting for some time be continued for the next ten years which will equal $15 billion.That will keep things running.

OK.

But he needs $7 billion more to fix things.


Its a bunch of different numbers. The official document https://www.wmata.com/about/news/GMplan-safe-reliable-affordable.cfm​  breaks it down more.  Essentially they are getting annually.
1) $300M Federal Grants
2) $150M Federal PRIIA  (Passenger Rail Investment and Improvement Act of 2008)
3) $150M Regional Match for PRIIA
4) $210 Jurisdiction commitments.

1,2 and 3 are about to go away due to the PRIIA expiring and the temporary #1 grant for safe-track expiring.

They can survive without 1), but they are saying they need 2,3 to continue. The $7 billion is how much in the hole they will be in 10 years if they lose 1,2,3 and survive on bare bones I think.
 
2017-04-20 03:45:15 PM  
I used the Metro regularly for years and, other than some occasional single-tracking for maintenance, I never had a huge problem. Even that problem would have been bearable if not for the constant biatching about single-tracking associated with it.

shiat's gotta get fixed sometime, folks, being whiny dickholes about it ain't gonna change it.
 
2017-04-20 03:50:26 PM  
I guess they need more paying customers??
Although I'm not sure where they would put them.
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Also you can't have both your escalators and elevators out of service unless you are going to provide very long ladders.
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2017-04-20 03:53:35 PM  
How about NO!
 
2017-04-20 03:53:44 PM  
For years when I worked downtown I used it and it was fine, but now after years of putting off basic maintenance its turned into a shiat show. Even cleaning up the stations has really dropped off and after all the problems they had the past few years more people decided working from home or driving to work was safer than the train. So in turn metro says fares go up, less people ride, wash, rinse repeat. Seems like every other month is a fare hike story on the news. But I doubt people are happy to pay $5 for a chance to die.
 
2017-04-20 03:55:40 PM  

moothemagiccow: Rueened: moothemagiccow: Rueened: Public transit fails again. What a surprise.

How's the traffic on that 8 lane highway?

Don't know, I don't drive. Any more stupid assumptions you want to make about people you don't know?

I'm going to assume this is you?
[img.fark.net image 850x630]


Wrong again.
 
2017-04-20 04:00:55 PM  

I can't understand why this is happening ...

According to the plan, revenue from fares and commercial sources like advertising cover more than 45 percent of the transit agency's operating expenses, but those expenses are increasing at almost twice the rate as revenues.

Never mind.
 
2017-04-20 04:12:01 PM  

solve4x: I was shocked to hear on NPR this morning that metro has 9200 employees. Like... where are they all?  It only takes one person to run a train.  They're never in the 'help' kiosks.   Maybe some sanitary workers...  seriously I have no idea.


WMATA runs the bus service as well, have their own police force (MTPD), do most of their own infrastructure and equipment maintenance, have clerks and custodians in the field, and have all the corporate overhead of a mid-size corporation (accounting, IT, HR, legal, advertising, customer service, a board, executives, etc.)

This 2010 article has a breakdown of some of the more common jobs (2700 bus drivers, 600 train drivers, 500 station managers, etc.), and links to raw data on all their employees. WMATA's own website has fiscal reports, which also detail external contracts, which include a lot of IT and engineering contractors.
 
2017-04-20 04:23:58 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: bighairyguy: MrBallou: "Fiscal Conservative" posturing and ranting about mismanagement are all the fashion, but do the leaders of the DC metro area want to have a working subway system, or don't they?

TANSTAAFL

Just because he's posturing and ranting doesn't mean he's wrong.  And the leaders are a big part of the problems that have built up.  In the past:

Metro: "We're need to shut some lines down for a while for maintenance."
Leaders: "But people (who vote for me) will be inconvenienced, you can't do that"
Metro: "But we really need to ...."
Leaders: "HARUMPH!! HARUMPH!!"

Not a lot of harumphing these days as reality has set in.

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This beats repeating, with video:

Blazing Saddles - We Must Do Something! Harrumph!
Youtube JN99jshaQbY
 
2017-04-20 04:26:17 PM  
*bears repeating

Dammit
 
2017-04-21 10:20:22 AM  

T Baggins: solve4x: I was shocked to hear on NPR this morning that metro has 9200 employees. Like... where are they all?  It only takes one person to run a train.  They're never in the 'help' kiosks.   Maybe some sanitary workers...  seriously I have no idea.

WMATA runs the bus service as well, have their own police force (MTPD), do most of their own infrastructure and equipment maintenance, have clerks and custodians in the field, and have all the corporate overhead of a mid-size corporation (accounting, IT, HR, legal, advertising, customer service, a board, executives, etc.)

This 2010 article has a breakdown of some of the more common jobs (2700 bus drivers, 600 train drivers, 500 station managers, etc.), and links to raw data on all their employees. WMATA's own website has fiscal reports, which also detail external contracts, which include a lot of IT and engineering contractors.


There you go again, bringing facts into a good old fashioned ignorant rant.
 
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