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(MSN)   Yes, there is activity at a North Korean nuclear test site. Making missiles? No it's more like 5-serving-3   ( msn.com) divider line
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2017-04-20 11:16:53 AM  
Later news reports that Kim Jong Un tied his own record by serving 21 straight aces.
 
2017-04-20 12:17:47 PM  
Trump to demand China tighten sanctions on table tennis equipment.
 
2017-04-20 12:31:36 PM  
My God, they're trying to outstrip us in our world-leading Maverick/Iceman homoeroticism. LAUNCH LAUNCH LAUNCH!
 
2017-04-20 12:40:05 PM  
When they start playing Bocci Ball, then I will become worried.
 
2017-04-20 12:41:55 PM  

clodcomplex: Trump to demand China tighten sanctions on table tennis equipment.


Know how I know I DNRTFA?
 
2017-04-20 12:59:51 PM  
We should mail Kim satellite photos of Northern Mexico just to see how he reacts.
 
2017-04-20 01:01:30 PM  
Those poor bastards are gonna get served by an AA gun now for embarrassing Kim.
 
2017-04-20 01:02:28 PM  
Danger zone!!!
 
2017-04-20 01:03:37 PM  
I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...
 
2017-04-20 01:05:05 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-20 01:05:19 PM  
Volleyball thread?

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2017-04-20 01:06:27 PM  

Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...


Open the picture in a new window, and yell "ENHANCE!" at it a few times. It should zoom in and depixilate a few times then you can see the part in their hair.
 
2017-04-20 01:09:50 PM  
TommyDeuce: Later news reports that Kim Jong Un tied his own record by serving 21 straight aces.

6s volleyball is played to 25.   21 is 2-on-2 beach.
and "5 serving 3" is some schoolyard nonsense :)
 
2017-04-20 01:12:15 PM  
img.fark.net

Sounds like they are heading to the danger zone
 
2017-04-20 01:24:02 PM  
Foreshadowing that North Korea is about to launch a VOLLEY of BALListic missiles?
 
2017-04-20 01:24:19 PM  
So at least some people in Best Korea are fed enough to run around and play games.
 
2017-04-20 01:25:53 PM  
The entire time I was reading that article, I had to remind myself I wasn't reading The Onion.
 
2017-04-20 01:28:01 PM  
Holy fark. That article was a masterclass in reading too much in to shiat.

"They're not doing anything there today and some of them played a couple games of one of their country's most popular sports....... This can only mean they are trying to send one of several totally vague messages to us through our satellites!"

Jebus Tittyfarking Christ... North Korea is not exactly farking subtle. If they're wanting to send us a message they'll just do like normal and issue some mocking, childish statement publicly.

This saber rattling by us is transparent and sick. The war profiteers of the right-wing really, really seem to want to kill millions of people and mire us in a debilitating quagmire and humanitarian crisis for generations to come. Disgusting.

Shame on every single one of you who helped those shiatheads get power over all three branches of government.
 
OOF
2017-04-20 01:30:27 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...

Open the picture in a new window, and yell "ENHANCE!" at it a few times. It should zoom in and depixilate a few times then you can see the part in their hair.


img.fark.net
 
2017-04-20 01:32:38 PM  
But was it ladies' volleyball, and was it of the beach variety?  I need to know.
 
2017-04-20 01:34:41 PM  

Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...


You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?
 
2017-04-20 01:35:19 PM  
Fat man core:

img.fark.net

Are you sure?

img.fark.net
 
2017-04-20 01:37:27 PM  
"It suggests that the facility might be going into a standby mode," "It also suggests that these volleyball games are being conducted with the North Koreans knowing that we'll be looking and reporting on it."

Or it could suggest they want to play some volleyball.  And maybe send some kind of message of nonchalance, I'm sure.

When I was working at a Samsung Heavy Industries plant in Changweon, Worst Korea, there were times that they had sort of intramural football (soccer) matches, fielding the Samsung team against Daewoo, Hyundai and other local company's teams.  They also had morning calisthenics to warm  up before work started.

Sounds Korean to me.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-04-20 01:46:10 PM  
They can't play League of Legends or watch the new MST3K.  What else can they do?
 
2017-04-20 01:47:08 PM  
So, Kim jong un and 5 generals trying desperately not to play well?
 
OOF
2017-04-20 01:50:46 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-20 01:57:38 PM  
I was about to say 5 people being served to 3 sounded like an awful lot of food and then I clicked the link. My bad.
 
2017-04-20 01:57:40 PM  

Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...


They are never as good as they claim although even if they are a little better what we can see, they are never going to show their exact capabilities.  The real art in the pictures is analyzing and interpreting the blocky and pixelated items in a picture or video. Over the years you can glean quite a bit of information based on shadows to gauge the size of objects (say a rocket prepared for launch).  Or shapes that show a given item.  There can be countermeasures to observation as most satellites have known orbits so you know when they are over head of a given area.

A volleyball game doesn't say much.  Maybe preparations are made and they are waiting for the go signal.  A real tell will be when they pull loggers and miners off the site as those are cash generating operations for the elite.  They only stop that when they are going to fire a nuke and get them back operating ASAP.
 
2017-04-20 01:59:18 PM  

dittybopper: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...

You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?


You realize they make mirrorless cameras now, right? And that you can put Lenses in front of said mirrors even if they did exist..... Right?
 
2017-04-20 02:07:20 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: But was it ladies' volleyball, and was it of the beach variety?  I need to know.


It was nuclear weapons volleyball.

Back when I was going through ditty bopper school at Fort Devens, one of the guys I went to school with had been a nuclear weapons maintenance specialist (MOS 55G) at Redstone Arsenal, but was being reclassed because the Army was in the process of getting rid of the warheads he was trained on*.  His description of a typical day was they would come in in the morning, do their maintenance checks, get the required paperwork done, have lunch, and spend the afternoon goofing off and playing volleyball until the work day was done.

Basically, because nuclear weapons very rarely break, they could goof off half the day and because there were in a highly restricted area, no one could really fark with them who wasn't already part of the unit.

So apparently nuclear weapons and volleyball go together.


*Apparently the Army figured that since he already had a top secret security clearance, it was better to move him into an MOS like 05H (Morse interceptor) that also required a TS clearance.   I'm not certain because he never said but the W50 would fit the bill:  It was used in Pershing I and Ia missiles, and deactivation dates were between 1973 and 1991 for those warheads.  This was in 1985. when the Pershing I and Ia were being replaced by the Pershing II with a W85 warhead.
 
2017-04-20 02:11:20 PM  
In my best Gen. Buck Turgidson voice:

We must not allow a volleyball GAP!
 
2017-04-20 02:13:08 PM  
Best Korea : Volleyball   USA : Our "POS" carries a football..
 
2017-04-20 02:15:36 PM  

dittybopper: Basically, because nuclear weapons very rarely break, they could goof off half the day and because there were in a highly restricted area, no one could really fark with them who wasn't already part of the unit.


Knew a guy who was ADM and had similar days in Germany, only with more beer.  Job got cut by Reagan and he didn't feel like playing "real army" again so he left the service.
 
2017-04-20 02:19:00 PM  

brax33: dittybopper: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...

You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?

You realize they make mirrorless cameras now, right? And that you can put Lenses in front of said mirrors even if they did exist..... Right?


It's about the aperture.  Doesn't matter if it's a lens or a mirror or some combination of them, the total aperture determines the angular resolution.  Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution
 
2017-04-20 02:24:31 PM  

mongbiohazard: Holy fark. That article was a masterclass in reading too much in to shiat.

"They're not doing anything there today and some of them played a couple games of one of their country's most popular sports....... This can only mean they are trying to send one of several totally vague messages to us through our satellites!"

Jebus Tittyfarking Christ... North Korea is not exactly farking subtle. If they're wanting to send us a message they'll just do like normal and issue some mocking, childish statement publicly.

This saber rattling by us is transparent and sick. The war profiteers of the right-wing really, really seem to want to kill millions of people and mire us in a debilitating quagmire and humanitarian crisis for generations to come. Disgusting.

Shame on every single one of you who helped those shiatheads get power over all three branches of government.


Hillary Clinton was a war hawk. If you're going to blame warmongerers realize it's not a right wing thing. The mess in Libya and the Syria Civil war fiasco was made worse by a Democrat administration.
 
2017-04-20 02:42:02 PM  
Years ago I worked for the US Army Ballistic Research Lab.   About a half a mile into the secure facility was our building and several people built a volleyball court behind the building and we'd have games during lunch.   Periodically the ball would go over the fence into another restricted area.     We had a gung-ho spec5 who would then get a running start at the fence, plant a foot 2/3 of the way up and leap over the barbed wire.
He'd retrieved the ball and then jump back over.

Eventually the security office determined that this was a violation.   So the rule came down....not "NO JUMPING OVER THE FENCE" which would have made sense but "NO VOLLEYBALL PLAYING."   Yeah that will keep the bad guys from jumping over the fence.
 
2017-04-20 02:45:30 PM  
By the way, if you've ever wondered how you can tell a US nuclear weapons facility from regular old ammunition storage bunkers on Google Earth, look for a double fenced enclosure generally near either an airfield or submarine docks, with a large number of vertical poles or towers strewn about, more than would be necessary to supply power and light the area.
 
2017-04-20 02:47:42 PM  

TheManofPA: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

Sounds like they are heading to the danger zone


Glad to see the "Top Gun" reference was taken care of.

/moving along to the Volleyball Gals
 
2017-04-20 03:03:00 PM  
Fake news. There is no fun in North Korea. The place is a complete hellish wasteland of starvation and misery, with no happiness or love ever being possible. Any waking moments not involved in the search for sustenance or trying not to draw the ire of Dear Leader is not only wasted energy, but N offense punishable by execution. Something involving starving dogs and mortars.
Or so I have been led to believe.
 
2017-04-20 03:23:45 PM  

MythDragon: Fake news. There is no fun in North Korea. The place is a complete hellish wasteland of starvation and misery, with no happiness or love ever being possible. Any waking moments not involved in the search for sustenance or trying not to draw the ire of Dear Leader is not only wasted energy, but N offense punishable by execution. Something involving starving dogs and mortars.
Or so I have been led to believe.


Somewhat.
It's a small coalition kleptocracy where the upper echelons eat like kings while the people live as chattel.
They've got fairly a decent health care system and free primary education with an extremely low illiteracy rate (the better to work the mines with), but it's not the sort of place that celebrates individuality or diversity or free thought.
So assuming you among the lucky few of the upper ranks who salutes the right boss, enjoys working long hours, and knows how to keep their mouth shut, then life can be fairly decent.

For the rest... Probably not a happy place.
 
2017-04-20 03:53:41 PM  

OOF: fuhfuhfuh: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...


img.fark.net

fuhfuhfuh: Open the picture in a new window, and yell "ENHANCE!" at it a few times. It should zoom in and depixilate a few times then you can see the part in their hair.


dittybopper: You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?


Lots of sarchasms today!
(I've spent over a decade machining various optics and working with optical engineers)

Daedalus27: They are never as good as they claim although even if they are a little better what we can see, they are never going to show their exact capabilities. The real art in the pictures is analyzing and interpreting the blocky and pixelated items in a picture or video.


Agreed. They have a hard overcoming physics, the properties of electromagnetic waves, etc.
Although I do wonder when they launch an unfolding umbrella parabola reflector type telescope and/or one that operates on a different wavelength than visible light.
 
2017-04-20 04:03:34 PM  

Percise1: Lots of sarchasms today!
(I've spent over a decade machining various optics and working with optical engineers)


There was no way for me to know you were being sarcastic.
 
2017-04-20 04:27:24 PM  

MythDragon: Fake news. There is no fun in North Korea. The place is a complete hellish wasteland of starvation and misery, with no happiness or love ever being possible. Any waking moments not involved in the search for sustenance or trying not to draw the ire of Dear Leader is not only wasted energy, but N offense punishable by execution. Something involving starving dogs and mortars.
Or so I have been led to believe.


There is fun in North Korea.  Just look at this:

i.amz.mshcdn.com
 
2017-04-20 04:31:47 PM  

dittybopper: Percise1: Lots of sarchasms today!
(I've spent over a decade machining various optics and working with optical engineers)

There was no way for me to know you were being sarcastic.


Fair enough, but neither did you need to assume I was being serious. Catch 22...
In retrospect, I should have said "They said they could read...". Maybe that would helped?
Thanks for the good information though, but Francis? Lighten up...
 
2017-04-20 05:03:14 PM  

HumanSVD: mongbiohazard: Holy fark. That article was a masterclass in reading too much in to shiat.

"They're not doing anything there today and some of them played a couple games of one of their country's most popular sports....... This can only mean they are trying to send one of several totally vague messages to us through our satellites!"

Jebus Tittyfarking Christ... North Korea is not exactly farking subtle. If they're wanting to send us a message they'll just do like normal and issue some mocking, childish statement publicly.

This saber rattling by us is transparent and sick. The war profiteers of the right-wing really, really seem to want to kill millions of people and mire us in a debilitating quagmire and humanitarian crisis for generations to come. Disgusting.

Shame on every single one of you who helped those shiatheads get power over all three branches of government.

Hillary Clinton was a war hawk. If you're going to blame warmongerers realize it's not a right wing thing. The mess in Libya and the Syria Civil war fiasco was made worse by a Democrat administration.


Both sides have their warmongers. However, both sides are not equally bad. The hawkish folks on the left don't hold a candle to the ones on the right, half of whom think they're fighting some sort of farking holy war on behalf of a particular god.
 
2017-04-20 11:40:15 PM  
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2017-04-20 11:51:43 PM  

dittybopper: brax33: dittybopper: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...

You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?

You realize they make mirrorless cameras now, right? And that you can put Lenses in front of said mirrors even if they did exist..... Right?

It's about the aperture.  Doesn't matter if it's a lens or a mirror or some combination of them, the total aperture determines the angular resolution.  Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution


I think part of the problem is that in the public mind, resolution is the primary measure of quality of an optical system.  So when they hear how great something like the Hubble is, they assume that it must be able to resolve a wart on a gnat's ass at a million miles.  They don't realize that what makes those systems so impressive isn't their resolution, it's their sensitivity.  They're not necessarily amazing for their ability to see small things, but they're hell on wheels when it comes to seeing faint (i.e. distant) things.
 
2017-04-21 09:31:36 AM  

ScottRiqui: dittybopper: brax33: dittybopper: Percise1: I thought they could read license plates from satellites, and they show us this blurry sheit? Whatever...

You fell for that shiat, despite the fact that some simple math proves it couldn't possibly be true?

You realize they make mirrorless cameras now, right? And that you can put Lenses in front of said mirrors even if they did exist..... Right?

It's about the aperture.  Doesn't matter if it's a lens or a mirror or some combination of them, the total aperture determines the angular resolution.  Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution

I think part of the problem is that in the public mind, resolution is the primary measure of quality of an optical system.  So when they hear how great something like the Hubble is, they assume that it must be able to resolve a wart on a gnat's ass at a million miles.  They don't realize that what makes those systems so impressive isn't their resolution, it's their sensitivity.  They're not necessarily amazing for their ability to see small things, but they're hell on wheels when it comes to seeing faint (i.e. distant) things.


I think some of it is because of people (which may include the government, through back channels) spreading misinformation about the ability of reconnaissance satellites to image things.  I've had people tell me that KH-11s could do things like read a newspaper headline or the license plates of cars from orbit, and I just laugh and walk away because I've seen examples of the imagery they took*, and it was no where near as good as they thought it was.

I was also told that in the 1980's, the NSA had all kinds of voice recognition software that could transcript what a person was saying, and even distinguish between individual voices, and I'd laugh at that too, because there was an entire section of linguists who worked in that facility I did, and they didn't have any such thing to help them.  Hell, we didn't even have anything that could reliably and accurately transcribe Morse code at the time, which is a much simpler problem.


*Classified correspondence course on the strategic rocket forces of the nation I was tasked with monitoring back when I was a Morse operator.  Ostensibly I was trying to get more promotion points in order to be  promoted to E-5, but that was mainly an excuse because the cutoff was so high I was never going to make it.  You had to max everything out.  The truth is, I find the subject fascinating, and always have.
 
2017-04-21 09:41:59 AM  

thehobbes: dittybopper: Basically, because nuclear weapons very rarely break, they could goof off half the day and because there were in a highly restricted area, no one could really fark with them who wasn't already part of the unit.

Knew a guy who was ADM and had similar days in Germany, only with more beer.  Job got cut by Reagan and he didn't feel like playing "real army" again so he left the service.


Let me correct something.  It wasn't Reagan, it was Congress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Rudman%E2%80%93Hollings_B​a​lanced_Budget_Act

That's part of the reason I didn't re-enlist, despite really liking the job.  The Army tightened up restrictions and increased requirements to force people out, and in fact they did cut some positions.
 
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