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(Metro)   Jeremy Corbyn, the Donald Trump of the UK, promises not to "play by the rules" in the June election   ( metro.co.uk) divider line
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2017-04-20 09:01:36 AM  
Well there we go.Thankfully I don't need to come to Fark for actual British news but now I've seen leaders of 3 out of the 4 main parties referred to as 'our' Trump. All that's left is Tim Farron. Anyone wanna ... oh who am I kidding, no one's even heard of him.

Corbyn is a massive tool, but that's about all he has in common with Trump.
 
2017-04-20 09:09:15 AM  
Headline fail, Subby. Ever heard of Nigel Farage?
 
2017-04-20 09:18:35 AM  
Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

What that says for his chances in the election is left as an exercise for the reader.
 
2017-04-20 09:57:41 AM  
The only similarity between Corbyn and Trump is that British voters hate them both equally.
 
2017-04-20 10:04:05 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.


this. The UK's Donald Trump is Boris Johnson.
 
2017-04-20 10:06:45 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.


Or, given that he's appeared on RT plenty, perhaps he's the UK's Nigel Farage?

/wait wha
 
2017-04-20 10:19:35 AM  

FlashHarry: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

this. The UK's Donald Trump is Boris Johnson.


Boris Johnson is a clever and well-educated man of impeccable social graces who pretends to be a buffoon to win over the rubes.

Donald Trump is a buffoon who pretends to be a clever and well-educated man of impeccable social graces, but who has won over the rubes because they know he's a buffoon anyway.
 
2017-04-20 10:25:09 AM  
He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!
 
2017-04-20 10:33:30 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!


He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.
 
2017-04-20 10:59:11 AM  

FlashHarry: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

this. The UK's Donald Trump is Boris Johnson.


Boris's Johnson is the USA's Corbyn.
 
2017-04-20 11:02:34 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

What that says for his chances in the election is left as an exercise for the reader.


Comparing Corbyn to Sanders is very unfair to Sanders.  Whatever else you think of the man, Sanders actually gives a fark about people.  Corbyn told labour to support Brexit "or else" when it was being voted upon in Parliament because he wants the chance to play hero when the economic realities start hitting the masses in the sack

Corbyn is worse than inept; he's inept with delusions of grandeur.
 
2017-04-20 11:02:48 AM  

pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.


Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.
 
2017-04-20 11:03:17 AM  
also, subby, let me joing everyone else in calling you an idiot.
 
2017-04-20 11:04:02 AM  
Luckily he isn't the one who enforces the rules.
 
2017-04-20 11:04:11 AM  
THE DONALD TRUMP OF THE UK

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and Marine LePen is the Elizabeth Warren of France
 
2017-04-20 11:05:08 AM  

Lady J: pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.

Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.


He is certainly a man of principle and if I met him in a pub I'd buy him a drink.

He's just, and I say this with no sarcasm, too good for his job. He is in a position where flexibility and compromise and sausage-making are essential, and he refuses to accept any of that.
 
2017-04-20 11:05:09 AM  

pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.


But apparently he managed to get a couple hundred thousand core followers that long for the nationalization of all industry, so has a death grip on the Labour Party leadership.  I hope the rest of Labour's supporters decide it's time to find a new home and not just stay home.
 
2017-04-20 11:06:50 AM  

pkjun: Lady J: pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.

Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.

He is certainly a man of principle and if I met him in a pub I'd buy him a drink.

He's just, and I say this with no sarcasm, too good for his job. He is in a position where flexibility and compromise and sausage-making are essential, and he refuses to accept any of that.


Whe else is there though?
 
2017-04-20 11:06:55 AM  

moothemagiccow: THE DONALD TRUMP OF THE UK

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and Marine LePen is the Elizabeth Warren of France


Actually I think France's LePen is The Pen of America.
 
2017-04-20 11:07:10 AM  

Murkanen: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

What that says for his chances in the election is left as an exercise for the reader.

Comparing Corbyn to Sanders is very unfair to Sanders.  Whatever else you think of the man, Sanders actually gives a fark about people.  Corbyn told labour to support Brexit "or else" when it was being voted upon in Parliament because he wants the chance to play hero when the economic realities start hitting the masses in the sack

Corbyn is worse than inept; he's inept with delusions of grandeur.


No, that's not why he did it. First and foremost he's defending the result of a vote. Secondly he, being very left wing, is very aware that the EU is no friend to labour movements. Maybe political realities are playing on his mind, hoping to snatch up disillusioned people when the dust settles, but he has never been in support of the EU.
 
2017-04-20 11:07:12 AM  
*who
 
2017-04-20 11:08:22 AM  
Gaze into the abyss..
i1.mirror.co.uk
 
2017-04-20 11:08:55 AM  
Hmmm,  sounds like one of those people that runs into nothing but assholes all day.
 
2017-04-20 11:12:10 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Jeremy Corbyn is the UK's Bernie Sanders, not the UK's Trump.

What that says for his chances in the election is left as an exercise for the reader.


Does Bernie wants out of NATO like Trump?
 
2017-04-20 11:18:20 AM  

Lady J: pkjun: He's just, and I say this with no sarcasm, too good for his job. He is in a position where flexibility and compromise and sausage-making are essential, and he refuses to accept any of that.

Whe else is there though?


I think a big problem is that Labour doesn't know what sort of party it's going to be. Is it a working-class protectionist Leaver party, or a young/urban-professional Remainer party?

I'm not sure anyone could really effectively lead a party that's so internally divided it still can't come up with a coherent position on last year's biggest issue. But an ideological purist is especially unsuited for the job.
 
2017-04-20 11:23:14 AM  

Slaxl: First and foremost he's defending the result of a vote.


Rending the economic future of everyone under 30, and a lot of the people under 40, into a dumpster fire isn't about "protecting the vote" that was primarily won on the backs of people who will be dead before the end of article 50.  It was a 3% split, not a mandate.

And for the second point?  He does want the economic pains to drive people back into voting labour, which is asinine because he made it so labour was front and centre as one of the groups that forced that economic pain to happen when there was a chance to stop it.  People are going to remember that Corbyn told the party to vote for Brexit when they discover their jobs don't exist anymore because the company moved out of country in an effort to maintain EU benefits.
 
2017-04-20 11:31:41 AM  

Murkanen: Slaxl: First and foremost he's defending the result of a vote.

Rending the economic future of everyone under 30, and a lot of the people under 40, into a dumpster fire isn't about "protecting the vote" that was primarily won on the backs of people who will be dead before the end of article 50.  It was a 3% split, not a mandate.

And for the second point?  He does want the economic pains to drive people back into voting labour, which is asinine because he made it so labour was front and centre as one of the groups that forced that economic pain to happen when there was a chance to stop it.  People are going to remember that Corbyn told the party to vote for Brexit when they discover their jobs don't exist anymore because the company moved out of country in an effort to maintain EU benefits.


He won't be in charge after the election. If they get the trouncing everyone is predicting (though these days predictions count for nothing) then there's no way he can hold on to power.

Maybe you're right, but for some reason I just see Corbyn's actions as entirely in line with someone who is opposed to the EU on the grounds that the EU should be opposed, not political opportunism.
 
2017-04-20 12:15:57 PM  
If I was the type of guy that got mad at stuff on the internet I'd probably have strong words to say about subby's claim that Jeremy Corbyn is the Donald Trump of the UK.
 
2017-04-20 12:35:50 PM  

Slaxl: Well there we go.Thankfully I don't need to come to Fark for actual British news but now I've seen leaders of 3 out of the 4 main parties referred to as 'our' Trump. All that's left is Tim Farron. Anyone wanna ... oh who am I kidding, no one's even heard of him.

Corbyn is a massive tool, but that's about all he has in common with Trump.


As an American I've been fascinated by the Lib Dems. They're such an anomaly, they got their political role stolen by Labour, even more so when Labour shifted rightward to become a center left party under Blairite leadership, and yet the Lib Dems have persisted. Yet, they never seem to become truly relevant, coming closest when they teamed up with Cameron. It's especially confusing to me right now, as everyone seems to hate Corbyn, and every non conservative hates the Conservatives, why the Lib Dems can't seem to take advantage.
 
2017-04-20 12:37:08 PM  
Next topic, I bet Subby is going to call Johnny Vegas the British version of Kate Upton.
 
2017-04-20 12:49:57 PM  

Lady J: pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.

Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.


Say what you want about tenets of Corbyn, m'lady, at least it's ethos
 
2017-04-20 12:50:59 PM  
Queen Elizabeth would be the closest the UK has to President Trump. Donald Trump has been chosen by the Almighty to carry the mandate of heaven and be the voice of Providence here on earth whereas QE only speaks for the Brits. At best it's an apples to oranges comparison.
 
2017-04-20 01:19:47 PM  
"Jeremy Corbyn, the Donald Trump of the UK"

hey subby, you know how i know that you're as ignorant as the day is long?
 
2017-04-20 01:28:54 PM  

pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.


So he is Britain's Bill the Cat, politically speaking?
 
2017-04-20 01:29:09 PM  

Julius Pleaseher: Queen Elizabeth would be the closest the UK has to President Trump. Donald Trump has been chosen by the Almighty to carry the mandate of heaven and be the voice of Providence here on earth whereas QE only speaks for the Brits. At best it's an apples to oranges comparison.


Elizabeth is the head of the state religion of the UK.  Her family motto is God and My Right.  Not My Right from God.  So she is literally coequal with God.  Trump can't even spell God if you spotted him the g, the o, and the d.
 
2017-04-20 01:37:16 PM  

sparks2021: Slaxl: Well there we go.Thankfully I don't need to come to Fark for actual British news but now I've seen leaders of 3 out of the 4 main parties referred to as 'our' Trump. All that's left is Tim Farron. Anyone wanna ... oh who am I kidding, no one's even heard of him.

Corbyn is a massive tool, but that's about all he has in common with Trump.

As an American I've been fascinated by the Lib Dems. They're such an anomaly, they got their political role stolen by Labour, even more so when Labour shifted rightward to become a center left party under Blairite leadership, and yet the Lib Dems have persisted. Yet, they never seem to become truly relevant, coming closest when they teamed up with Cameron. It's especially confusing to me right now, as everyone seems to hate Corbyn, and every non conservative hates the Conservatives, why the Lib Dems can't seem to take advantage.


Because the LibDems formed a coilition government with the Tories.  Normally this would mean they would moderate the Tories.  Instead, they pretty much sold themselves to Cameron for nothing, except as the whipping boy whenever the Tories farked up.  They proved themselves not only spineless but more incompetent than had previously been thought mathematically possible.  Casting a vote for the LibDems is like setting your ballot on fire - except you then go ahead and set yourself on fire too because it gives Thatcherites a chubby when you die in pain, and you wouldn't want to discomfit them in any way.
 
2017-04-20 01:42:03 PM  

LewDux: Lady J: pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.

Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.

Say what you want about tenets of Corbyn, m'lady, at least it's ethos


No.  That is the laziest sort of wankig possible.  Pol Pot had an ethos.  You don't givd him points for it.  Having a thing is not better than not having a thing when that thing actively makes the world worse.  If one friend forgets to bring beer to the party, but your worst enemy brings a bomb, you dont go and blow yourself up because, hey, at least he had something.  Content farking matters.
 
2017-04-20 01:44:52 PM  

phalamir: LewDux: Lady J: pkjun: Tr0mBoNe: He's nowhere near as bad as what the press makes him out to be. It's because he's a *gasp* Socialist!

He's a party leader whose own party has voted no-confidence in his leadership, who has had to fire half his shadow cabinet on three separate occasions because nobody can stand working with him, and who has led Labour from a six-point deficit to a twenty-one-point deficit in the polls, all while racking up a personal approval rating under 20%, and all against the backdrop of a Conservative government that has been making a complete shambles of Brexit and the NHS. He's managed to lose byelection seats that Labour has literally never ever lost, and is headed for possibly the largest loss in history.

Whatever you think of his politics, by any remotely objective measure he is a complete failure.

Sigh. I used to really rate him. I still consider him a man of principle and they're few and far between.

Say what you want about tenets of Corbyn, m'lady, at least it's ethos

No.  That is the laziest sort of wankig possible.  Pol Pot had an ethos.  You don't givd him points for it.  Having a thing is not better than not having a thing when that thing actively makes the world worse.  If one friend forgets to bring beer to the party, but your worst enemy brings a bomb, you dont go and blow yourself up because, hey, at least he had something.  Content farking matters.


If you can get over your chubby for being grumpy in every UK thread you might know he was making a joke.
 
2017-04-20 02:03:01 PM  
Knowledge about the politics of other countries is a different discipline that just writing sentences that use familiar words

/looking at subby
//very briefly
///shaking head a bit longer
 
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