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(The Sun (Ireland))   Nothing bizarre about feeding, bathing and living with your dead relative for years because they're 'still alive'. Nothing bizarre at all   ( thesun.ie) divider line
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2017-04-20 09:33:41 AM  
Only twelve years? Amateur

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2017-04-20 09:48:45 AM  
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2017-04-20 10:10:16 AM  
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2017-04-20 11:55:19 AM  
Jahi McMath would like to have a word with you.
 
2017-04-20 01:31:56 PM  
This was a triumph
 
2017-04-20 02:54:00 PM  

vonmatrices: This was a triumph


I'm making a note here: Yuuuge Success!
 
2017-04-20 02:55:40 PM  
They should store them in a alf like the rest of the normal folk.
 
2017-04-20 03:00:28 PM  
Betcha he's a dead fark.
 
2017-04-20 03:03:26 PM  
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2017-04-20 03:04:01 PM  
They had a good article on this culture in last years april edition of Nat.Geo magazine.
 
2017-04-20 03:04:29 PM  
a.abcnews.comamateurs.
 
2017-04-20 03:05:28 PM  
They weren't ready to go on the cart.....
 
2017-04-20 03:07:06 PM  

stonelotus: [a.abcnews.com image 850x478]amateurs.


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2017-04-20 03:08:05 PM  
Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?
 
2017-04-20 03:10:01 PM  

Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?


I think it's probably appropriate to draw the line when it's actually a biohazard in pathological terms...
 
2017-04-20 03:19:34 PM  
Of course, activities which endanger the community at large or those who cannot defend themselves (children, pets, etc.) are unacceptable. Those who cannot defend themselves must be protected (and taken care of as needed) if we are to become a more highly evolved society.
 
2017-04-20 03:19:58 PM  
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2017-04-20 03:21:35 PM  
One more chance to kill the pain?
 
2017-04-20 03:21:46 PM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: vonmatrices: This was a triumph

I'm making a note here: Yuuuge Success!


It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
 
2017-04-20 03:23:19 PM  
And yet Cultural Marxists and liberals persist in the peddling that particularly perverse proposition that all cultures are equal and should be respected equally.

It's not true. This is stupid, wasteful and barbarous, it is a primitive custom to be enshrined in history books as a curiosity and not encouraged.
 
2017-04-20 03:23:44 PM  
Paging William Faulkner.
 
2017-04-20 03:28:24 PM  

Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?


I don't think every other belief system is bizarre and/or unhealthy.  Just the bizarre and/or unhealthy ones.  Like keeping a corpse in the house or farking a virgin to keep the AIDS off.
 
2017-04-20 03:32:59 PM  
Oh I don't know. Do they have any precognitive or telepathic powers? Because that could be handy if you're worried about crime or Furyans.
 
2017-04-20 03:38:09 PM  

willfullyobscure: And yet Cultural Marxists and liberals persist in the peddling that particularly perverse proposition that all cultures are equal and should be respected equally.

It's not true. This is stupid, wasteful and barbarous, it is a primitive custom to be enshrined in history books as a curiosity and not encouraged.


No, barbarous is when you bury dead with all his water
 
2017-04-20 03:41:49 PM  

Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?


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In this particular case, though, most everyone thinks it's bizarre and/or unhealthy because basically every species on earth is hardwired to think that, that pure survival has stressed that we should keep corpses, much like household or excretory waste, away from our living areas.
 
2017-04-20 03:54:13 PM  
Nope, not weird at all...
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2017-04-20 04:01:56 PM  
Our funeral rituals are pretty odd when you think about it. We pump dead bodies full of chemicals, dress them up in nice clothes, style their hair and put makeup on them. Then we put them in an expensive box, line up to look at them slightly bloated and not quite like how they were alive, and have a service. We then have a processional to a field where we have another service and watch the box get buried. We then put an expensive and sometimes very elaborate marker on top so we can come back and "visit" them and bring them flowers and other items (such as stuffed animals or pinwheels or whatever they liked in life.)
 
2017-04-20 04:07:10 PM  

vonmatrices: This was a triumph


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2017-04-20 04:17:15 PM  

BigNumber12: Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?

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In this particular case, though, most everyone thinks it's bizarre and/or unhealthy because basically every species on earth is hardwired to think that, that pure survival has stressed that we should keep corpses, much like household or excretory waste, away from our living areas.


That is quite a blanket statement, and mine was probably too broad as well. (I was thinking of a particular group of intolerant judgmental Americans who think their's is the only path to Rome.) Some species do in fact avoid the dead, far from all. Some even seek out the dead.

/Pretty sure most of us prefer bacon dead.
 
2017-04-20 04:24:18 PM  

Somaticasual: Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?

I think it's probably appropriate to draw the line when it's actually a biohazard in pathological terms...


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So I'm a bit curious/confused about this whole "feeding" aspect as well. Just how does that work?
 
2017-04-20 04:42:48 PM  

Alex_Lee: That is quite a blanket statement, and mine was probably too broad as well. (I was thinking of a particular group of intolerant judgmental Americans who think their's is the only path to Rome.) Some species do in fact avoid the dead, far from all. Some even seek out the dead.


So, I'm sure you can provide a list of species that keep the corpses of their own dead around in their living area? And beyond that, an explanation as to why those species should be models for human behavior?

Alex_Lee: /Pretty sure most of us prefer bacon dead.


Come on, now you're just trolling
 
2017-04-20 05:00:52 PM  

LewDux: willfullyobscure: And yet Cultural Marxists and liberals persist in the peddling that particularly perverse proposition that all cultures are equal and should be respected equally.

It's not true. This is stupid, wasteful and barbarous, it is a primitive custom to be enshrined in history books as a curiosity and not encouraged.

No, barbarous is when you bury dead with all his water


The Spice Must Flow.
 
2017-04-20 05:07:01 PM  
willfullyobscure: Derp, derp, and more bad liberal derp.

Now that, folks, is how you take a perfectly good thread in which we can all have fun and joke around and turn it into and us vs. them, right vs. left, political thread. Way to crap in the punch bowl...
 
2017-04-20 05:07:12 PM  

Percise1: Somaticasual: Alex_Lee: Why do so many of us think everyone else's believe system (rituals, habits, lifestyle, etc.) is bizarre and/or unhealthy?

I think it's probably appropriate to draw the line when it's actually a biohazard in pathological terms...

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So I'm a bit curious/confused about this whole "feeding" aspect as well. Just how does that work?


That is beyond my wildest imagination, but the whole bathing and dressing thing is what gives me the creeps. I wonder if they actually spoon feed them, or if they just leave the food laying around so the dearly departed can partake if they wish. It's not a new concept, there were pre-Columbian peoples in South America who mummified people (leaders, maybe?) and even took the mummies into battle. If I'm not mistaken, there are still some groups who keep mummified saints around.
 
2017-04-20 05:21:05 PM  
OMC - How Bizarre
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/You said bizarre twice
 
2017-04-20 05:25:54 PM  

EmmaLou: Our funeral rituals are pretty odd when you think about it. We pump dead bodies full of chemicals, dress them up in nice clothes, style their hair and put makeup on them. Then we put them in an expensive box, line up to look at them slightly bloated and not quite like how they were alive, and have a service. We then have a processional to a field where we have another service and watch the box get buried. We then put an expensive and sometimes very elaborate marker on top so we can come back and "visit" them and bring them flowers and other items (such as stuffed animals or pinwheels or whatever they liked in life.)


This.

Their glass houses may be more fragile, but ours still exist.
 
2017-04-20 05:40:15 PM  

EmmaLou: Our funeral rituals are pretty odd when you think about it. We pump dead bodies full of chemicals, dress them up in nice clothes, style their hair and put makeup on them. Then we put them in an expensive box, line up to look at them slightly bloated and not quite like how they were alive, and have a service. We then have a processional to a field where we have another service and watch the box get buried. We then put an expensive and sometimes very elaborate marker on top so we can come back and "visit" them and bring them flowers and other items (such as stuffed animals or pinwheels or whatever they liked in life.)


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2017-04-20 05:42:50 PM  

willfullyobscure: And yet Cultural Marxists and liberals persist in the peddling that particularly perverse proposition that all cultures are equal and should be respected equally.

It's not true. This is stupid, wasteful and barbarous, it is a primitive custom to be enshrined in history books as a curiosity and not encouraged.


I'm more surprised the tradition hasn't evolved to replace the corpses with proxies such as dolls or statues. In Africa there are groups that use statues of the deceased like this, and one case where if a twin dies in childhood their statue is treated as 'alive' to keep the surviving twin safe.

Keeping corpses is a health hazard, but worship/care of the spirits of the deceased is normal.
 
2017-04-20 05:42:58 PM  

EmmaLou: Our funeral rituals are pretty odd when you think about it. We pump dead bodies full of chemicals, dress them up in nice clothes, style their hair and put makeup on them. Then we put them in an expensive box, line up to look at them slightly bloated and not quite like how they were alive, and have a service. We then have a processional to a field where we have another service and watch the box get buried. We then put an expensive and sometimes very elaborate marker on top so we can come back and "visit" them and bring them flowers and other items (such as stuffed animals or pinwheels or whatever they liked in life.)


Yeah, Jane Goodall. And people get cremated. Or donate their bodies to science.

Our food rituals are pretty weird when you think about it. We take formerly living things and arrange them in different shapes. Then we put it in our faces and grind it up with our heads. Then, well, the food has to exit...
 
2017-04-20 05:47:17 PM  
This book is a fascinating read:

https://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious-Lives-Human-Cadavers/dp/03933248​2​6/

Personally I think a Tibetan sky burial is the way to go.
 
2017-04-20 06:02:39 PM  
United Appeal For The Dead
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2017-04-20 06:04:23 PM  
They keep bringing them cigarettes? No wonder they're dead.
 
2017-04-20 06:27:58 PM  

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/You said bizarre twice


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2017-04-20 06:36:16 PM  

willfullyobscure: And yet Cultural Marxists and liberals persist in the peddling that particularly perverse proposition that all cultures are equal and should be respected equally.

It's not true. This is stupid, wasteful and barbarous, it is a primitive custom to be enshrined in history books as a curiosity and not encouraged.


Gotta agree....especially since what is considered a proper, respectful funeral can cost several years worth of income.
This is FTFA...
Just from a very pragmatic POV, it seemeth me that some customs need to be reviewed and reworked.
 
2017-04-20 07:09:26 PM  

Khazar-Khum: They keep bringing them cigarettes? No wonder they're dead.


I didn't watch the videos, did they show the corpse actually smoking a cigarette? That might be worth watching.
 
2017-04-20 08:24:57 PM  
"Family who have lived with grandad's corpse for 12 YEARS inject body with preserving chemical and 'believe he is alive'"

Because everyone else you know who's alive need regular formalin injections, else they start to stink.
 
2017-04-20 08:28:50 PM  

Percise1: So I'm a bit curious/confused about this whole "feeding" aspect as well. Just how does that work?


Going to go out on a limb here and say 'badly'.
 
2017-04-20 08:31:56 PM  
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Sounds like A Case of the Stubborns, to me.
 
2017-04-20 11:49:49 PM  
Well, they are still "alive" in a disturbingly bacterial sense:  a healthy living person has a microbiome, a community of bacteria, viruses & yeasts (fungi) that naturally lives in & around the body (with a preference for moist orifices). People have 'bout 3-6 kilograms in gut bacteria, alone.

Once we die (& definitely depending on what we die from), a lot of our little bugs go too (they can't live without us), but some go nuts, turning our cadaver into a profoundly stinky mess (Cadaverine & Putrescine are just a couple of the worst smelling odors in existence) as they help to accelerate the natural decay process.

Whatever 'preservatives' that this group of people are using, had better contain some seriously powerful antibiotic / anti-fungal qualities or they risk turning 'grandpa' into 'highly infectious / cancer causing, stinky, rotten skin bag full of putrescent bacterial soup'. Of course, anything toxic enough to do this, wouldn't be that healthy for living humans to be around either (Increased cancer risk for embalmers exposed to formaldehyde)

As much as I kind've admire these people's tenacity not to let go of deceased relatives (though telling people to keep quiet 'cause "uncle is having a rest" - is def'nitely getting waaay too close to crazytown...) I'd say that this poses too much of a public health risk to continue in it's current form - and that doesn't even address the high probability (in this region of the world) the guy that carked it, died from some nasty, highly infectious disease

Guidelines For Handling Human Cadavers
 
2017-04-20 11:58:26 PM  
Unavailable for comment:

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Also...

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Just use a bunch of pepper on 'im.
 
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