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(Variety)   Want moar unreleased Prince music? List of bonus tracks and long-lost remixes for deluxe "Purple Rain" leaked seven weeks early   ( variety.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Prince, Purple Rain, long-promised deluxe reissue, Prince bandmate Andre, fansite Prince Vault, previously unreleased material, original album, different bootleg versions  
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2017-04-20 07:27:21 AM  
No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.
 
2017-04-20 08:11:38 AM  
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2017-04-20 09:08:45 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.


Ditto for Bowie and Hendrix. Already that Hendrix train already left the station.
 
2017-04-20 09:09:40 AM  
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2017-04-20 09:20:18 AM  
 Harness the power of Fark: I desperately need a clean copy of "Let's Go Crazy" as recorded for the film. Sure, I love the single, but that extended version is out of this world

 /places boots on piano
 
2017-04-20 09:26:23 AM  
I don't understand why they think we want single edits. I only see the extended version of Computer Blue in the track list but what about extended versions of the Beautiful Ones or even Darling Nikki. I've got copies that have extra verses. I am disappoint.
 
2017-04-20 09:26:48 AM  
Yeah...I like Prince, but his stuff after about 1990 just isn't interesting.

I'm sure there are probably some decent things in the "archive", but I highly doubt there is anything really GREAT.
 
2017-04-20 09:32:57 AM  

realmolo: Yeah...I like Prince, but his stuff after about 1990 just isn't interesting.

I'm sure there are probably some decent things in the "archive", but I highly doubt there is anything really GREAT.


Well, that hardly matters.  As long as they can make money on it, they'll sell recordings of his drive-thru orders at Dairy Queen.  It hasn't gone Full Elvis, but he wasn't pimped out as much.
 
2017-04-20 09:50:35 AM  

realmolo: Yeah...I like Prince, but his stuff after about 1990 just isn't interesting.

I'm sure there are probably some decent things in the "archive", but I highly doubt there is anything really GREAT.


3121, Musicology & Rave are freaking fantastic.
 
2017-04-20 10:19:36 AM  
Can't say I'm that impressed. I have all the singles anyway, and the edit on "Let's Go Crazy" is particularly bad. I'd prefer a simple collection of all the Revolution 12" singles. The real gem of this should have been the uncut live performance of the title track without the overdubs.

Also, wasn't this supposed to be released three years ago?
 
2017-04-20 10:34:10 AM  

realmolo: Yeah...I like Prince, but his stuff after about 1990 just isn't interesting.

I'm sure there are probably some decent things in the "archive", but I highly doubt there is anything really GREAT.


The Undertaker is an album recorded live in the studio in 94 (released on itunes a few years back) that is prince straight up rocking out with bassist and drummer. Good stuff. Theres video on youtube of the performance, haven't seen much of it yet (Music starts at about 4:47).

Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.


To be fair, im fairly certain only whole, finished songs are in the vault, no bits and pieces. The man was a notorious perfectionist. Anything he wasn't personally happy with was almost certainly deleted. He'd record whole albums and just chuck in the vault for later use. I think he knew his career was larger than his life and intended much of if not all of this material to be released after his death. As with anybody super-prolific there is going to be meh mixed with gems, but sifting through is part of the fun. And it's certainly not going to be a bottom of the barrel-scraping only-in-it-for-the-money driven affair like the releases coming out under the name of a particular artist whose initials are FZ.
 
2017-04-20 12:17:30 PM  
What is a moar?
 
2017-04-20 12:30:33 PM  

grouser: What is a moar?


You chase it around the yard and it cuts your grass.
 
2017-04-20 12:51:28 PM  
More Purple Rain?
Ugh, that song is about 4 minutes too long as it is.

The only thing I've ever really wanted to hear is what 'When Doves Cry' sounded like with the bass line.
 
2017-04-20 12:57:45 PM  

mrsleep: The only thing I've ever really wanted to hear is what 'When Doves Cry' sounded like with the bass line.


PRINCE -- When Doves Cry - All Parts Played On Bass
Youtube 7ORinrCH7oM
 
2017-04-20 01:22:34 PM  

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2017-04-20 02:26:27 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.


"Cashing in" - as in being forced to pay the IRS and the State of MN $100MM+ in estate taxes, or nearly half the value the estate was estimated at in January (w/less than $100K in cash-on-hand)? He had no will, no trusts, no charities that he had earmarked funds to give to upon his death. He messed up by having no estate plan.
 
2017-04-20 03:07:07 PM  

Hoopy Frood: Can't say I'm that impressed. I have all the singles anyway, and the edit on "Let's Go Crazy" is particularly bad. I'd prefer a simple collection of all the Revolution 12" singles. The real gem of this should have been the uncut live performance of the title track without the overdubs.

Also, wasn't this supposed to be released three years ago?


There have been recent cases where track lists for SDE's of certain albums were 'leaked' to get a gist of what the majority of people want.  Once the comment boards light up the producers tweak what to release to increase market value. I've seen several of these leaks turn out to be better and sometimes worse than what was initially reported.  It's happened too many times for it to be a coincidence imo but it still may not be the case here.

They aren't making this for streamers, they want the revenue from people who still want a physical product, most of the time they do everything they can to appease them as long as the artist doesn't object.
 
2017-04-20 08:58:34 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.

"Cashing in" - as in being forced to pay the IRS and the State of MN $100MM+ in estate taxes, or nearly half the value the estate was estimated at in January (w/less than $100K in cash-on-hand)? He had no will, no trusts, no charities that he had earmarked funds to give to upon his death. He messed up by having no estate plan.


He DID have a will. He mentioned it at least twice in interviews. However, he also mentioned that one of the stipulations of his will was that the contents of his vault never be released.  Clearly, someone decided to make that will disappear, and they hauled his estranged (and reportedly greedy) half-sister Tyka out of the woodwork to claim inheritance and grant permission to open the vault. They didn't waste ANY time in getting her to court to file, and they didn't waste any time opening that vault, either. He was barely cold before they were planning their posthumous bonanza.

Prince did not want  his vault songs made public. He said he specifically requested that in his will, and I believe it. I also believe that he had some lawyers, business partners, or others around him who wanted nothing more than to milk his vault for millions (maybe billions) of dollars, and that's how a guy who had EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to have a will somehow "didn't have a will". It's gone, and I think its disappearance was deliberate and calculated.

AnotherBluesStringer: Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.

Ditto for Bowie and Hendrix. Already that Hendrix train already left the station.



Bowie's a special case. He actually planned for his death well ahead of time, and they say he recorded enough material for a couple more albums intentionally. He asked close friends and family to ensure the work was completed and released, so that's what they'll do. That's what he wanted.

Prince, on the other hand, was adamant that his vault was not for everyone to plunder. It was his private collection of his works that he never wanted anyone to hear without his express permission, and someone didn't think that was a good business decision. It's enough to make me think his death may have been helped along. He may not have been straight-up murdered, but I suspect someone made sure he got bigger doses and got hooked on the painkillers, and very likely enabled him as much as possible to hasten his departure from the mortal realm.

There's something foul in the Prince situation. Someone (or a group of someones) stood to profit wildly from his death-- More so than from his continued existence and the existence of that will. Frankly, it makes me sick that his mostly talentless, junkie half-sister is swanking around as a millionaire now for doing nothing more than betraying her half-brother's wishes and signing some documents at the behest of some skeezy lawyers and bankers.

I have no proof. I am just certain of two things:  One, that Prince was entirely against letting his vault music be published, and Two, that he spent the last decade or so preaching about how he didn't need drugs because he had God. Everything that happened surrounding his death contradicts those two things, and it sure looks fishy.
 
2017-04-20 11:08:45 PM  
In related news, if you see Kafka's Trial in your home, at friends's place or somewhere in public, metamorphose it into ash as soon as you can
 
2017-04-21 12:17:40 AM  
The way I see it, the person who dies doesn't want the stuff to come out, then they should make the arrangements needed to make sure that stuff doesn't come out. In Prince's case, since I'm sure this stuff was digitally stored, he could have had it encrypted and set up with a dead man's switch. If he doesn't check in by a certain time, it all gets deleted.

So I'm okay with them releasing anything and everything, and I'll judge what I like and don't like. I don't need anyone protecting me from inferior music by preventing it from being released.
 
2017-04-21 01:37:20 AM  

WilderKWight: The Pope of Manwich Village: Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.

"Cashing in" - as in being forced to pay the IRS and the State of MN $100MM+ in estate taxes, or nearly half the value the estate was estimated at in January (w/less than $100K in cash-on-hand)? He had no will, no trusts, no charities that he had earmarked funds to give to upon his death. He messed up by having no estate plan.

He DID have a will. He mentioned it at least twice in interviews. However, he also mentioned that one of the stipulations of his will was that the contents of his vault never be released.  Clearly, someone decided to make that will disappear, and they hauled his estranged (and reportedly greedy) half-sister Tyka out of the woodwork to claim inheritance and grant permission to open the vault. They didn't waste ANY time in getting her to court to file, and they didn't waste any time opening that vault, either. He was barely cold before they were planning their posthumous bonanza.

Prince did not want  his vault songs made public. He said he specifically requested that in his will, and I believe it. I also believe that he had some lawyers, business partners, or others around him who wanted nothing more than to milk his vault for millions (maybe billions) of dollars, and that's how a guy who had EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to have a will somehow "didn't have a will". It's gone, and I think its disappearance was deliberate and calculated.

AnotherBluesStringer: Tr0mBoNe: No. Anything Prince made that was unreleased was not released for a reason. Anything else is just trying to cash in on a legend.

Ditto for Bowie and Hendrix. Already that Hendrix train already left the station.


Bowie's a special case. He actually planned for his death well ahead of time, and they say he recorded enough material for a couple more albums intentionally. He asked close friends and family to ensure the ...


All of this makes sense, but how much of a market do we really believe there is for someone who put out content almost yearly for the past 20 years in (relative) obscurity?  I mean, how many people were buying "Planet Earth" and "3121"?

Also, of the people interested in the vault stuff, how many are actually going to fork over the cash as opposed to just stealing it off the internet?  Don't we live in a day and age where a performer makes the bulk of their income through touring?
 
2017-04-21 02:35:53 AM  

Cepheus Crater: Hoopy Frood: Can't say I'm that impressed. I have all the singles anyway, and the edit on "Let's Go Crazy" is particularly bad. I'd prefer a simple collection of all the Revolution 12" singles. The real gem of this should have been the uncut live performance of the title track without the overdubs.

Also, wasn't this supposed to be released three years ago?

There have been recent cases where track lists for SDE's of certain albums were 'leaked' to get a gist of what the majority of people want.  Once the comment boards light up the producers tweak what to release to increase market value. I've seen several of these leaks turn out to be better and sometimes worse than what was initially reported.  It's happened too many times for it to be a coincidence imo but it still may not be the case here.

They aren't making this for streamers, they want the revenue from people who still want a physical product, most of the time they do everything they can to appease them as long as the artist doesn't object.


Steve Hoffman has confirmed that Paul McCartney is a member of his forum (login not revealed), and the upcoming Sgt. Pepper boxed set will contain pretty much what people have mentioned whenever the subject came up in a thread - stereo and mono versions, a 5.1 remix, outtakes of every song, plus Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever.
 
2017-04-21 05:16:17 AM  

Hoopy Frood: Cepheus Crater: Hoopy Frood: Can't say I'm that impressed. I have all the singles anyway, and the edit on "Let's Go Crazy" is particularly bad. I'd prefer a simple collection of all the Revolution 12" singles. The real gem of this should have been the uncut live performance of the title track without the overdubs.

Also, wasn't this supposed to be released three years ago?

There have been recent cases where track lists for SDE's of certain albums were 'leaked' to get a gist of what the majority of people want.  Once the comment boards light up the producers tweak what to release to increase market value. I've seen several of these leaks turn out to be better and sometimes worse than what was initially reported.  It's happened too many times for it to be a coincidence imo but it still may not be the case here.

They aren't making this for streamers, they want the revenue from people who still want a physical product, most of the time they do everything they can to appease them as long as the artist doesn't object.

Steve Hoffman has confirmed that Paul McCartney is a member of his forum (login not revealed), and the upcoming Sgt. Pepper boxed set will contain pretty much what people have mentioned whenever the subject came up in a thread - stereo and mono versions, a 5.1 remix, outtakes of every song, plus Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever.


Yeah, I knew that one was official, I wasn't alluding to that one if I understand your interpretation.
 
2017-04-21 11:49:30 AM  

Cepheus Crater: Yeah, I knew that one was official, I wasn't alluding to that one if I understand your interpretation.


I was just confirming your statement with an example.

I don't know if a 30th anniversary Purple Rain was really in the pipeline or if was just spitballing at the time.
 
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