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(New York Daily News)   Michigan is moving to become the final state in the country to stop allowing police officers to legally have sex with prostitutes they are investigating   ( nydailynews.com) divider line
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2017-04-19 02:19:12 PM  
Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?
 
2017-04-19 02:24:18 PM  

Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?


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2017-04-19 02:30:51 PM  

Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?


I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.
 
2017-04-19 02:36:32 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.


True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.
 
2017-04-19 02:43:13 PM  
How are our law enforcement officials supposed to know if they have a real prostitute if they can't get in there and wiggle it around a bit? We are effectively tying their hands on this.
 
2017-04-19 03:20:13 PM  

snowybunting: How are our law enforcement officials supposed to know if they have a real prostitute if they can't get in there and wiggle it around a bit? We are effectively tying their hands on this.


You have to pay extra for that.
 
2017-04-19 03:21:01 PM  
What about Colorado?

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2017-04-19 03:24:14 PM  

Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?


You'd be 100% protected from prosecution unless the cop lied, which as we all know is virtually unheard of.
 
2017-04-19 03:24:38 PM  
Alaska is looking at similar legislation (HB 112), but the electeds won't bring it up for discussion.
 
2017-04-19 03:26:02 PM  

Im_Gumby: Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.

True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.


Flip side'll cost extra, pal.
 
2017-04-19 03:26:39 PM  
As of now, Michigan is the only state that gives immunity
to police officers who get too deep undercover with prostitutes they're probing.
 
2017-04-19 03:28:20 PM  
Welp, looks like it's early retirement for me then.
 
2017-04-19 03:28:30 PM  
As of now, Michigan is the only state that gives immunity to police officers who get too deep undercover with prostitutes they're probing. Otherwise, some prostitution-related crimes in Michigan's penal code are punishable with up to 20 years in prison.


Well done.
 
2017-04-19 03:28:58 PM  

ALFER69: As of now, Michigan is the only state that gives immunity
to police officers who get too deep undercover with prostitutes they're probing.


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2017-04-19 03:29:42 PM  

Im_Gumby: Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.

True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.


There's a scene in Lolita (the Jeremy Irons version please) that deals with this scenario.
 
2017-04-19 03:30:01 PM  

Im_Gumby: Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.

True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.


That's why massage girls collect the "legit" fee up front and then do a disinterested, half-ass massage for 30 seconds or so before brushing up against your junk and asking for an additional tip to brush up against it again, but more vigorously.

Or so I have read.
 
2017-04-19 03:30:29 PM  
Every single story in that sidebar has been or could very easily be a Fark Headline.
 
2017-04-19 03:35:42 PM  
So... in their investigation, they can no longer get to the bottom of it?
 
OOF
2017-04-19 03:38:08 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-19 03:38:12 PM  
When I was just a wee lad in Michigan, there was a big "scandal" in my hometown when the police took almost a year of "undercover work" to determine that the local Asian Massage Parlor was a front for prostitution.  I believe they started with one officer and then had to bring in a couple more to verify what exactly was going on.

/What's this look like to you Seargent?
//Looks like sex to me.
///That's what I thought.  Better call for backup.
 
2017-04-19 03:38:13 PM  
Abandoning this will have negative effects, state-wide.

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2017-04-19 03:41:25 PM  

moos: Im_Gumby: Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.

True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.

There's a scene in Lolita (the Jeremy Irons version please) that deals with this scenario.



"It's not fair to change the price half way through!" ?
 
2017-04-19 03:42:36 PM  
*looks up from prostitute*  Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was America!
 
2017-04-19 03:47:52 PM  
As of now, Michigan is the only state that gives immunity to police officers who get too deep undercover with prostitutes they're probing.

huh huh... probing. huh...
 
2017-04-19 03:48:13 PM  
#BlueBallsMatter
 
2017-04-19 03:51:32 PM  

DonaldTheHeckler: When I was just a wee lad in Michigan, there was a big "scandal" in my hometown when the police took almost a year of "undercover work" to determine that the local Asian Massage Parlor was a front for prostitution.  I believe they started with one officer and then had to bring in a couple more to verify what exactly was going on.

/What's this look like to you Seargent?
//Looks like sex to me.
///That's what I thought.  Better call for backup.


That actually happened in my hometown too.  We ended up on 20/20 for it too.  Each cop went in 5+ times before an arrest was made.  It's not like they were trying to get on the inside and after a certain amount of visits they got busy.  According to their own reports they got happy endings on each visit.

Some of the cops were married too.  I wonder how that convo went when it came to light.  "I had to do it for the protection of the community honey buns."
"5 times?"
"Think of the children!"
 
2017-04-19 03:53:05 PM  
" A Honolulu police spokeswoman told Time magazine she never even heard the term "cop checking."


....That's some mighty fine police work there


/hoes have been cop checking for as long as its been illegal - idiot
 
2017-04-19 04:02:25 PM  

dkulprit: DonaldTheHeckler: When I was just a wee lad in Michigan, there was a big "scandal" in my hometown when the police took almost a year of "undercover work" to determine that the local Asian Massage Parlor was a front for prostitution.  I believe they started with one officer and then had to bring in a couple more to verify what exactly was going on.

/What's this look like to you Seargent?
//Looks like sex to me.
///That's what I thought.  Better call for backup.

That actually happened in my hometown too.  We ended up on 20/20 for it too.  Each cop went in 5+ times before an arrest was made.  It's not like they were trying to get on the inside and after a certain amount of visits they got busy.  According to their own reports they got happy endings on each visit.

Some of the cops were married too.  I wonder how that convo went when it came to light.  "I had to do it for the protection of the community honey buns."
"5 times?"
"Think of the children!"


It just got worse every time.  I just closed my eyes and thought of you dear.  Honest.  Here's a new bracelet.
 
2017-04-19 04:05:33 PM  

ALFER69: As of now, Michigan is the only state that gives immunity to police officers who get too deep undercover with prostitutes they're probing.


Someone is very proud of that sentence! And I am very proud of them...


As for changing the laws, let's not rush into anything. Consider the cop's side in all of this, they just want to make it home that evening, apparently with ho stank on their dicks.
 
2017-04-19 04:08:48 PM  
Cops are not a prostitute's friend, despite trying to portray themselves as protectors against the trafficking boogeyman. The number of cops that "bust" prostitues, and then demand services for free to walk is not insignificant. More than a few are truly disgusting and will even fark prostitutes they know are minors.
 
2017-04-19 04:15:41 PM  

inglixthemad: Cops are not a prostitute's friend, despite trying to portray themselves as protectors against the trafficking boogeyman. The number of cops that "bust" prostitues, and then demand services for free to walk is not insignificant. More than a few are truly disgusting and will even fark prostitutes they know are minors.


Where do you live where police portray themselves as being a prostitute's friend?
 
2017-04-19 04:18:31 PM  
I thought this was just more of a recruiting issue.  "Sure being a cop in Detroit has some challenges, but let me tell you about some of the fringe benefits."
 
2017-04-19 04:20:32 PM  

meanmutton: inglixthemad: Cops are not a prostitute's friend, despite trying to portray themselves as protectors against the trafficking boogeyman. The number of cops that "bust" prostitues, and then demand services for free to walk is not insignificant. More than a few are truly disgusting and will even fark prostitutes they know are minors.

Where do you live where police portray themselves as being a prostitute's friend?


Dontcha know? The cops are just out helping those poor trafficked women. No woman ever chooses to sell sex without being directly forced to sell by someone else.

That's the line of shiat they're selling nowadays to try and get more money for the local vice task forces.
 
2017-04-19 04:43:44 PM  

dkulprit:   "I had to do it for the protection of the community honey buns."


Even without the comma after community it still works.
 
2017-04-19 05:10:37 PM  

This text is now purple: snowybunting: How are our law enforcement officials supposed to know if they have a real prostitute if they can't get in there and wiggle it around a bit? We are effectively tying their hands on this.

You have to pay extra for that.


I came here for this. Then came again. Damn internet connection.
 
2017-04-19 05:11:44 PM  
So will they go back to using paid informants?  I'm asking for a friend.  My little friend.
 
2017-04-19 05:14:13 PM  

Im_Gumby: Pocket Ninja: Im_Gumby: Not that I have any experience with this, but if I were Fred Garvin, wouldn't I simply be able to avoid prosecution by making sure that coitus is in progress before discussing compensation?

I think that flies somewhat in the face of the the "always get the money upfront" maxim that most in the profession live by. The ability to negotiate would be somewhat hampered by the fact that the guy is already on top of you, and presumes that you'd even be able to get him to stop in the first place.

True, but on the flip side... once you're in process... I would assume there is more of a desire to reach an agreement so you can complete the transaction.


Just have to stall the negotiations for 39 seconds or so...and we're done.
 
2017-04-19 05:18:25 PM  

jtown: So will they go back to using paid informants?  I'm asking for a friend.  My little friend.


When I've seen the busts on Cops it's always the same. Have a scantily clad cop stand out there on a corner with a HD camera pointed at her in a way to get a view of the guy soliciting, wire her up with a mic. When they come up, the cop never mentions either money or sex. The guy mentions both, she tells him to meet her around the corner in a dark spot, cops arrest him in the dark spot.

Usually, the conversation goes something like this:

Cop: Hey, baby, how you doing tonight? Looking for fun?
Guy: Yeah, what ya got?
Cop: What you looking for?
Guy: I don't know, blowjob?
Cop: Oh, yeah? What were you thinking?
Guy: I don't know, like $50?
Cop: Well, I guess. Meet me around the back in that alley and we can do it there.
 
2017-04-19 05:25:42 PM  

meanmutton: jtown: So will they go back to using paid informants?  I'm asking for a friend.  My little friend.

When I've seen the busts on Cops it's always the same. Have a scantily clad cop stand out there on a corner with a HD camera pointed at her in a way to get a view of the guy soliciting, wire her up with a mic. When they come up, the cop never mentions either money or sex. The guy mentions both, she tells him to meet her around the corner in a dark spot, cops arrest him in the dark spot.

Usually, the conversation goes something like this:

Cop: Hey, baby, how you doing tonight? Looking for fun?
Guy: Yeah, what ya got?
Cop: What you looking for?
Guy: I don't know, blowjob?
Cop: Oh, yeah? What were you thinking?
Guy: I don't know, like $50?
Cop: Well, I guess. Meet me around the back in that alley and we can do it there.


That's pretty much the opposite of the situation being discussed in this article.  They're talking about male cops farking female prostitutes and arresting the prostitutes.  You're talking about female cops luring in male customers and arresting the customers.
 
2017-04-19 06:43:29 PM  
If a cop catches some disease this way it'd be a farking huge lawsuit. If a cop transmitted some disease to the prostitute or someone else then it'd be a farking huge lawsuit. I can't even fathom how it would ever be legal in a system where prostitution is legal, and it's completely unnecessary if prostitution is legal.
 
2017-04-19 06:43:36 PM  
I would like to investigate her:

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2017-04-19 07:19:03 PM  
They should just legalize brothels. Tax them. Put them under the inspection of the health department or something. Require on-site security and regular medical exams for the workers.

Street walkers would go out of business if there were a safe, clean, legal place for people to do the nasty for money. Pimps would have to move to another state or try to specialize in freaky stuff the legal brothels wouldn't do (and which would likely be even more illegal and easier to prosecute).

Ugly people, old people, crippled people, shy people, and just plain awkward/antisocial people need sex, too. It would be a community service that would make everyone feel better and thus contribute more to society. It would lick the problem with STDs, curb human trafficking, and leave our law enforcement officers free to do things like protecting the public and finding lost cars and kids, instead of harassing (and farking) hookers on the taxpayer's dime.
 
2017-04-19 07:28:42 PM  

Oliver Twisted: I thought this was just more of a recruiting issue.  "Sure being a cop in Detroit has some challenges, but let me tell you about some of the fringe benefits."


You haven't seen the women walking the streets in Detroit or Flint.  I wouldn't call that a perk.

meanmutton: Where do you live where police portray themselves as being a prostitute's friend?


Back in the 80s, there was a SC cop busted for running a prostitution ring.
 
2017-04-19 08:19:34 PM  

Mock26: I would like to investigate her:

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Find a quiet place, relax, close your eyes, take your junk out with your off hand... and that is as close as you will ever get to anything like that. Enjoy...

WilderKWight: They should just legalize brothels. Tax them. Put them under the inspection of the health department or something. Require on-site security and regular medical exams for the workers.

Street walkers would go out of business if there were a safe, clean, legal place for people to do the nasty for money. Pimps would have to move to another state or try to specialize in freaky stuff the legal brothels wouldn't do (and which would likely be even more illegal and easier to prosecute).

Ugly people, old people, crippled people, shy people, and just plain awkward/antisocial people need sex, too. It would be a community service that would make everyone feel better and thus contribute more to society. It would lick the problem with STDs, curb human trafficking, and leave our law enforcement officers free to do things like protecting the public and finding lost cars and kids, instead of harassing (and farking) hookers on the taxpayer's dime.


Logic... LOGIC??
Logic has no business when we need to maintain the police state and profit from prisons! WTF is wrong with you?
 
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2017-04-19 09:41:30 PM  
The down side, they have to bang a prostitute from Michigan
 
2017-04-20 12:38:43 AM  
Then why wold anyone want to be a cop?
 
2017-04-20 08:06:11 AM  

Russ1642: If a cop catches some disease this way it'd be a farking huge lawsuit.


Not to mention goddamn hilarious.
 
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