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2017-04-19 06:09:22 AM  
Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.
 
2017-04-19 06:54:25 AM  
When kind of mental freak would sit through a grade school musical recital without any paternal obligation to do so?
 
2017-04-19 07:25:37 AM  

H31N0US: When kind of mental freak would sit through a grade school musical recital without any paternal obligation to do so?


Uh, sex predators...
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-19 07:26:42 AM  
But it's only so often I get to hear Steve Reich's "Music for 18 Musicians" with a kazoo, 16 Playskool xylophones, and a slide whistle!
 
2017-04-19 07:27:02 AM  

Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.


"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.
 
2017-04-19 07:27:06 AM  
Seddon faces charges including violating conditions of release and prohibited contact with a child in a safe zone.

Police do not believe Seddon had contact with any child


Hmmm.
 
2017-04-19 07:28:40 AM  
Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.
 
2017-04-19 07:35:52 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.


That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?
 
2017-04-19 07:48:35 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.


7th/8th graders performing music is pretty damned bleak in the average town.  I've seen some amazing High School performances if the town is a good size and when the chorus/band/theater director is a superhuman freak of talent and organization.

This suggests he was thinking about creeping on the kids, or seeking out single moms, so he could prey on their children from the comfort of their home.  There's a reason they let him out of prison subject to certain conditions, he seems to have failed with regard to those conditions.  A judge will have the rest of the information and can decide what to do with him.
 
2017-04-19 07:50:14 AM  

Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.


What's the point of for-profit prisons if you start helping people? Can't let the revolving door stop.
 
2017-04-19 07:51:07 AM  
"Wiscasset Middle High School "

"convicted in 2005 of unlawful sexual contact with a child younger than 12 "

no TooOldBear.png?
 
2017-04-19 07:54:55 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.


You seem to grasp some nuance the rest of us don't...are you still allowed to go to Chuck E Cheese and Toys R Us?
 
2017-04-19 07:59:32 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: "Wiscasset Middle High School "

"convicted in 2005 of unlawful sexual contact with a child younger than 12 "

no TooOldBear.png?


7th graders are 12.
 
2017-04-19 08:03:33 AM  

Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.


Nuh uh! Jails also make lots of money for private companies!

Honestly sometimes I wonder if certain judges give light sentences in hopes of a repeat offense to get them back. Kind of like the Cash for Kids scandal. There's probably requirements on a minimum you can spend to house inmates so they can only cut costs so far on that. But what about administrative admission/release processing fees? And do the same prison companies contract the parole system?

You could probably release people, claim they violated parole and get a warrant put out, and just bounce them back and forth like a yoyo. Charging the state when they're in jail and the prisoners while they're out.

Aaaand this is the point where I realize that I need some sleep.
 
2017-04-19 08:07:06 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.


Its not winter bub so it must be summer
 
2017-04-19 08:09:20 AM  

Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.


There is little to no rehabilitation and correction in the Murican penal system. What 'cho talkin' bout Willis?
 
2017-04-19 08:17:08 AM  

foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?


Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.
 
2017-04-19 08:42:26 AM  

H31N0US: When kind of mental freak would sit through a grade school musical recital without any paternal obligation to do so?


I did once, went with a girl I was seeing.  Worst date ever, sat through that torture for her to bail on me for another guy.  Other than learning a lesson about those horrible plagues on society, I don't really miss her either.
 
2017-04-19 08:42:39 AM  

bobadooey: Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.

Its not winter bub so it must be summer


It's Maine, summer probably doesn't start till July or August. High today in Bangor is 44.
 
2017-04-19 08:43:59 AM  
Oh dear, my tired brain did not pronounce recital correctly
 
2017-04-19 08:46:37 AM  

dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.


Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception
 
2017-04-19 08:59:18 AM  

Munden: dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception


Yes, but Maine has a specific definition of rape for charging people and sentencing guidelines to go along with someone found guilty of it.  You can split hairs by definitions all you want, but he was not charged under those statutes which means he likely fell under the heavy petting.

As I said, I hate playing devils advocate because kiddie diddlers need to go away for a long time even if it is "just" heavy petting, this guy is an obvious examples as to why.
 
2017-04-19 09:20:40 AM  
Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.
 
2017-04-19 09:28:26 AM  

Munden: not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.


They aren't unicorn farms either.
 
2017-04-19 09:30:19 AM  

Latinwolf: Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.


Lol, thanks for playing the race card.
 
2017-04-19 09:37:20 AM  

stevetherobot: bobadooey: Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.

Its not winter bub so it must be summer

It's Maine, summer probably doesn't start till July or August. High today in Bangor is 44.


Ed Zachary.
 
2017-04-19 09:37:37 AM  
High School Talent Show ?

img.fark.net
 
2017-04-19 09:38:26 AM  

meintx2001: Latinwolf: Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.

Lol, thanks for playing the race card.


The lady doth protest too much.
 
2017-04-19 09:39:07 AM  

dkulprit: Munden: dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception

Yes, but Maine has a specific definition of rape for charging people and sentencing guidelines to go along with someone found guilty of it.  You can split hairs by definitions all you want, but he was not charged under those statutes which means he likely fell under the heavy petting.

As I said, I hate playing devils advocate because kiddie diddlers need to go away for a long time even if it is "just" heavy petting, this guy is an obvious examples as to why.


Looks like Munden wants to apply the literal definition when the legal definition is the important one.  I say we agree that Munden is both right and wrong.  But mostly wrong.
 
2017-04-19 09:43:31 AM  

meintx2001: Latinwolf: Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.

Lol, thanks for playing the race card.


Doesn't change things, just look at any  Fark thread discussing a white criminal and compare it to those where the criminals aren't white.  White criminals get excuses made For them all the time.
 
2017-04-19 10:04:02 AM  

Latinwolf: meintx2001: Latinwolf: Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.

Lol, thanks for playing the race card.

Doesn't change things, just look at any  Fark thread discussing a white criminal and compare it to those where the criminals aren't white.  White criminals get excuses made For them all the time.


You must be white since you're making excuses for yourself.
 
2017-04-19 10:09:12 AM  
Munden:

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception


I'm going to go with NO on that.   You really have to stretch the phrase "unlawful sexual activity, usually sexual intercourse" to make it apply to merely "unlawful sexual contact."   Simply because the definition doesn't include an exhaustive list of applicable activities and exempt activities doesn't mean ANY and all unlawful sexual activities including mere contact is rape.    Molestation is not necessarily rape.   When my female friends go to the bar and some douche grabs their butt and occasionally some jerk at a concert grabs their boob and disappears into the crowd, that doesn't make them victims of rape.   To say so is absurd.
 
2017-04-19 10:11:05 AM  
Well the whole registry is a joke to begin with.  Most people think all people on the registry are rapists and pedophiles.  The majority are not.  The registry is comprised mostly of teenage males who have done stupid things, and they are not pedophiles and rapists.  However to calm the fear of soccer mommies and metrosexual males, law enforcement has to tell you they are registering all these dangerous people.  The facts are they spending so much time on administrating non-threatening, people who committed misdemeanors, they are not spending enough time actually tracking the pedophiles or rapists.
 
2017-04-19 10:19:58 AM  

2xcited: Well the whole registry is a joke to begin with.  Most people think all people on the registry are rapists and pedophiles.  The majority are not.  The registry is comprised mostly of teenage males who have done stupid things, and they are not pedophiles and rapists.  However to calm the fear of soccer mommies and metrosexual males, law enforcement has to tell you they are registering all these dangerous people.  The facts are they spending so much time on administrating non-threatening, people who committed misdemeanors, they are not spending enough time actually tracking the pedophiles or rapists.


That's not what this guy is though.
 
2017-04-19 10:24:31 AM  

stevetherobot: bobadooey: Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.

Its not winter bub so it must be summer

It's Maine, summer probably doesn't start till July or August. High today in Bangor is 44.



Yeah but it was 86 in Portland this last weekend on Easter Sunday.

https://bangordailynews.com/2017/04/17/outdoors/weather/hot-sunday-sh​a​ttered-portlands-record-high-set-41-years-ago/?ref=moreInstate

This winter doesn't know what the hell it wants.  60's in January then 2, 12" storms in Feb.   Warm first week of March followed by 20" of snow in one storm but warm the next week and then 8" on April first.  Now no snow on the ground and 86f on the 16th of April.    We still had over 30" of snow in a couple places in our yard 10 days ago and I will have to mow the grass where those were next week.
 
2017-04-19 10:38:58 AM  
When you're a registered sex offender and you don't have any children of your own, you should probably skip out on attending high school music recitals

What if I've already paid for tickets?  What do?
 
2017-04-19 10:43:08 AM  

Munden: dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception


Do you understand the difference between wrongful death and murder?
 
2017-04-19 11:29:13 AM  

Fano: Munden: dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception

Do you understand the difference between wrongful death and murder?


$250,000 in legal fees?
 
2017-04-19 11:33:02 AM  

Munden: dkulprit: foxyshadis: BarkingUnicorn: Munden: Almost makes you think that jails are just punitive and not institutions for rehabilitation and correction of serious mental and sexual issues.  But hey, sure, 4 years in jail for raping a child under the age of 12, then released.

"Unlawful sexual contact" is not rape.  Just sayin'.

That's literally what the phrase means. It's either forcible rape or incapacitated rape or statutory rape. Which one would you prefer?

Hate to play devil's advocate, but according to the Maine statutes "unlawful sexual contact" is any sort of contact in a sexual manner.  Anything from grabbing someone in their naughty bits fully clothed to rape.

Look up the definition of the word rape.  It's literally 'unlawful sexual contact'. That's it, that's what it means.

Rape - unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconciousness, or deception


I've never understood this sort of response.  Anyone who's used the English language for more than a year or two should understand that the meaning of a word as commonly used and/or commonly understood is not always as broad or inclusive as the dictionary or legal definition.  Until very recently, it was rare to hear/read someone describe the act of sexual touching of a child without penetration as rape, but rather molestation or sexual assault.
 
2017-04-19 11:34:43 AM  

trappedspirit: When you're a registered sex offender and you don't have any children of your own, you should probably skip out on attending high school music recitals

What if I've already paid for tickets?  What do?


Scalp them in the parking lot.
 
2017-04-19 11:37:41 AM  
If he was there last year, and the year before, and the year before that, why are they complaining this year?

img.fark.net
 
2017-04-19 11:53:38 AM  

Ned Stark: trappedspirit: When you're a registered sex offender and you don't have any children of your own, you should probably skip out on attending high school music recitals

What if I've already paid for tickets?  What do?

Scalp them in the parking lot.


Thanks for the idea, paleface.
 
2017-04-19 01:07:19 PM  

Ker_Thwap: 7th/8th graders performing music is pretty damned bleak in the average town. I've seen some amazing High School performances if the town is a good size and when the chorus/band/theater director is a superhuman freak of talent and organization.


Many years ago, my grandparents went into a retirement home and I helped look after their house. Their house was right behind a music school. I spent 4 years hearing little kids learn to play the oboe, clarinet, piano, violin, viola, etc.

On the plus side, now that I work in the school system I'm the one not wincing at recitals since I'm basically immune to it.
 
2017-04-19 03:00:57 PM  

nytmare: Latinwolf: meintx2001: Latinwolf: Looks at picture, so he's white, that explains why some people are making excuses for him if not outright white knighting him.

Lol, thanks for playing the race card.

Doesn't change things, just look at any  Fark thread discussing a white criminal and compare it to those where the criminals aren't white.  White criminals get excuses made For them all the time.

You must be white since you're making excuses for yourself.


What crime was I accuse of?
 
2017-04-19 03:06:51 PM  

Ned Stark: 2xcited: Well the whole registry is a joke to begin with.  Most people think all people on the registry are rapists and pedophiles.  The majority are not.  The registry is comprised mostly of teenage males who have done stupid things, and they are not pedophiles and rapists.  However to calm the fear of soccer mommies and metrosexual males, law enforcement has to tell you they are registering all these dangerous people.  The facts are they spending so much time on administrating non-threatening, people who committed misdemeanors, they are not spending enough time actually tracking the pedophiles or rapists.

That's not what this guy is though.


I've seen that argument many times on Fark, (along side the "he was on the list for pissing") yet if you actually look at a list, you'll find that most of the people there are actual sex offenders and not just dumb teenagers.
 
2017-04-19 05:59:51 PM  

stevetherobot: bobadooey: Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.

Its not winter bub so it must be summer

It's Maine, summer probably doesn't start till July or August. High today in Bangor is 44.


That's t-shirt weather hoss
 
2017-04-19 06:01:40 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: This winter doesn't know what the hell it wants.  60's in January then 2, 12" storms in Feb.   Warm first week of March followed by 20" of snow in one storm but warm the next week and then 8" on April first.  Now no snow on the ground and 86f on the 16th of April.    We still had over 30" of snow in a couple places in our yard 10 days ago and I will have to mow the grass where those were next week.


Already know what it's done for the ticks as evidence of this wriggly fella in my arm.  Pretty dang amusing last Sunday, 80 somethin in LA and piles of snow sittin there starin back
 
2017-04-20 09:14:00 AM  

bobadooey: stevetherobot: bobadooey: Ragin' Asian: Perhaps this was the only monetarily viable option of entertainment available. Or maybe he was trying to get some respite from the cold. It's freaking Maine.

Its not winter bub so it must be summer

It's Maine, summer probably doesn't start till July or August. High today in Bangor is 44.

That's t-shirt weather hoss


You've got to realize that where I come from, the low 80s is considered nice and cool.
 
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