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(CNN)   Massachusetts just got around to dismissing 20,000 drug cases where the scientific evidence was faked. It's been so long in coming that the state employee who did the faking has already gone to prison and been released   ( cnn.com) divider line
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2017-04-19 12:08:47 AM  
And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?
 
2017-04-19 01:22:12 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


They won't eat my face.
 
2017-04-19 01:28:59 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


I want to take hold of his pointy little hooded elf head, I want to shove his beady little pimple eyes at this article and I want to squeeze, just hard enough that he can feel the zit pus of his brain bulging against those ready to burst eyes.  And I want to tell him, "A statement.  I don't care which side you come down on.  That's between you and your god.  But I want to hear an honest, full, non-weasal, direct statement from you, and by god whichever way you go on it you had goddamn well better follow through not just in regards to these cases, but any cases like them, or I swear to all the burning blasphemies you could possibly name that I will come back and finish popping you like the infected perineum cyst ingrown asshole hair that you are.  Declare yourself, asshole.  Have you ever, EVER been an american or are you just a jackbooted usurper looking to hurt and control people."
 
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2017-04-19 02:16:52 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: I want to take hold of his pointy little hooded elf head, I want to shove his beady little pimple eyes at this article and I want to squeeze, just hard enough that he can feel the zit pus of his brain bulging against those ready to burst eyes.  And I want to tell him, "A statement.  I don't care which side you come down on.  That's between you and your god.  But I want to hear an honest, full, non-weasal, direct statement from you, and by god whichever way you go on it you had goddamn well better follow through not just in regards to these cases, but any cases like them, or I swear to all the burning blasphemies you could possibly name that I will come back and finish popping you like the infected perineum cyst ingrown asshole hair that you are.  Declare yourself, asshole.  Have you ever, EVER been an american or are you just a jackbooted usurper looking to hurt and control people."


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2017-04-19 02:30:33 AM  

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2017-04-19 02:52:03 AM  
Maybe they just wanted to wait till the faker was out so all the wrongfully convicted could find him/her and give them the beat down they desperately need.
 
2017-04-19 02:52:18 AM  
They should have sentenced her to all the time the people who were wrongly convicted because of her served.
 
2017-04-19 02:54:42 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


Eh.  Both sides are bad, Hillary would have done the same, need to punish the DNC, etc.  It's all worth it for stopping the TPP.
 
2017-04-19 03:02:49 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


I love the party of smaller government.
 
2017-04-19 03:14:00 AM  
I think this speaks more to how lenient the penalties for ruining thousands of lives are.
 
2017-04-19 03:18:11 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Maybe they just wanted to wait till the faker was out so all the wrongfully convicted could find him/her and give them the beat down they desperately need.


Beat down?

Police and DAs who wrongfully arrest should be flayed judicially. It doesn't actually violate the bill of rights because while cruel we'd make it the usual.

It's wrong to leave it to vigilantes to punish the wicked, as their radars are broken and the law employs the really hard boys already.
 
2017-04-19 03:19:11 AM  

NobleHam: I think this speaks more to how lenient the penalties for ruining thousands of lives are.


if anything, law enforcement or anyone working for and/or contracted by law enforcement at any level should be held to a higher standard of conduct than people who don't work for the cops or are cops themselves.
 
2017-04-19 03:30:03 AM  
You gotta wonder about her motivation.  Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?
 
2017-04-19 03:33:44 AM  

Nofun: Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?


from what I gather, she just wanted to be seen as a really good, efficient worker.  so she started cutting corners and one thing lead to another and now suddenly 20,000 some odd people got convicted for crimes they didn't commit and its nobody's fault because reasons.
 
2017-04-19 03:34:15 AM  

Nofun: You gotta wonder about her motivation.  Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?


I can't remember exactly but I read about this a couple of years ago and I think she said it was because she trusted that the prosecutors wouldn't falsely accuse someone and just wanted to help them out.  She is/was psychologically an authoritarian tool.
 
2017-04-19 03:38:20 AM  

The Captain's Ghost: She is/was psychologically an authoritarian tool


this is why independent review of criminal forensic techniques is a necessity.  yes, it can and does work and yes it can and will help you catch the bad guys....but ya gotta make sure the entire process is verified and trustworthy at each and every step of the way or you'll end up creating even MORE distrust for law enforcement, which they really do not need right now.
 
2017-04-19 03:39:29 AM  

Weaver95: Nofun: Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?

from what I gather, she just wanted to be seen as a really good, efficient worker.  so she started cutting corners and one thing lead to another and now suddenly 20,000 some odd people got convicted for crimes they didn't commit and its nobody's fault because reasons.


Maybe that's how corruption happens in cops too.  You want to look good to the department and get convictions to make the department look good.  These people are criminals anyway, right?  (Allegedly, but...) Fudge a fact, falsify a report and you're doing the world a favor by making sure someone bad is punished...  maybe bad cops think they are doing the right thing.

Before you know it you've got dozens of cops on the take with you, youre doing confiscated blow off a hookers ass, and all of the things the bad guys were known for doing you're now doing, and you're an example to the public of why lots of people don't trust cops.
 
2017-04-19 03:43:34 AM  

AquaTatanka: Before you know it you've got dozens of cops on the take with you, youre doing confiscated blow off a hookers ass, and all of the things the bad guys were known for doing you're now doing, and you're an example to the public of why lots of people don't trust cops.


but of course, it's not YOUR fault.  its all those darn libruls who MADE you go down that road, because LAW and ORDER gotdammit!

*sigh*

so yeah.  this is why civilians need to review cop procedures and point out the oh SO many ways cops can and have gone bad in the past.
 
2017-04-19 03:45:21 AM  
Can't believe she got only 3 years for this and served only part of it.
 
2017-04-19 03:47:17 AM  

Trik: Can't believe she got only 3 years for this and served only part of it.


makes me wonder if she knew something the prosecution didn't want advertised....but that's just the paranoid part of my brain speaking.
 
2017-04-19 03:52:53 AM  

The Captain's Ghost: Nofun: You gotta wonder about her motivation.  Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?

I can't remember exactly but I read about this a couple of years ago and I think she said it was because she trusted that the prosecutors wouldn't falsely accuse someone and just wanted to help them out.  She is/was psychologically an authoritarian tool.


Weaver's point takes us in a different direction though. Shew was probably given quotas and benchmarks.

Justice is the exact opposite of benchmarks. You can't recognize justice by the number of cases solved in a  given time frame, or by the number of results one way or  another. Guilty? Not guilty? Counting them does not indicate justice. Speed? That tells us nothing about results.

She might not be an authoritarian. She might be an efficiency fanatic and someone who is motivated to meet standards regardless of who gives them. You know. Like what apps are training us to do.

(You can find out if a justice worker is doing their job by reviewing their methods and procedures - oversight and occasionally redundancy).
 
2017-04-19 03:58:31 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: She might not be an authoritarian. She might be an efficiency fanatic and someone who is motivated to meet standards regardless of who gives them. You know. Like what apps are training us to do


from what I read about this case, this lab tech was an efficiency fanatic type.  i'm sure the promotions and pay raises didn't hurt any either for that matter.  At any rate, she didn't sound like she was out to punish the guilty. she just wanted a clean, orderly and hyper efficient lab with no backlog.  that's how she ended up where she did.  got lazy, cut corners and nobody caught on until it was far too late and many lives had been ruined.
 
2017-04-19 04:03:54 AM  

Trik: Can't believe she got only 3 years for this and served only part of it.


It's not that difficult to believe. She likely has no prior convictions and probably behaved herself in prison. There's very little chance she'll ever get hired by the state again, so the chances of her reoffending are very little.

I know this doesn't really sit well with the Internet Court of Law, but early release in this particular case isn't something I'm going to get worked up over.
 
2017-04-19 04:10:46 AM  

Weatherkiss: Trik: Can't believe she got only 3 years for this and served only part of it.

It's not that difficult to believe. She likely has no prior convictions and probably behaved herself in prison. There's very little chance she'll ever get hired by the state again, so the chances of her reoffending are very little.

I know this doesn't really sit well with the Internet Court of Law, but early release in this particular case isn't something I'm going to get worked up over.


I agree that for her the punishment is enough but this might be a case where a stiffer sentence would send a stronger message to others who might be tempted to follow in her footsteps.  This concept works a lot better for crimes like this than for crimes of passion.
 
2017-04-19 04:21:17 AM  
So that's what, 20,000 lives ruined vs. less than 3 years in prison? Sounds fair to me.
 
2017-04-19 04:54:18 AM  
Her punishment should be she has to serve the sentence of anyone who was wrongly convicted.
 
2017-04-19 05:30:16 AM  

Weaver95: NobleHam: I think this speaks more to how lenient the penalties for ruining thousands of lives are.

if anything, law enforcement or anyone working for and/or contracted by law enforcement at any level should be held to a higher standard of conduct than people who don't work for the cops or are cops themselves.


This is funny because most of the people who hold these positions contractually agree to hold a higher standard through oaths and written promisorry.
You would think that the disciplinary action against them would not only be more severe as a reminder to others to hold the standard they have pledged, but also act as deterrent to their counterparts because of the risk of ostracization.
 
2017-04-19 05:35:36 AM  

Nofun: You gotta wonder about her motivation.  Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?


The word you're looking for is sociopath
 
2017-04-19 06:03:21 AM  

Nofun: You gotta wonder about her motivation.  Who was the one behind the scenes compelling her to do this, or is she just a total scumbag?


She wanted to ingest the drugs and get the approval of her superiors. The banality of evil isn't that our superiors are giving us evil orders, it's that the results of theStanford Prison Experiment are ingrained in human behavior.
 
2017-04-19 06:11:24 AM  
Everyone just relax and simmer down. The dirty dope heads who were "wrongfully convicted" probably committed other crimes we do not know about. So it all worked out and they got what they deserved. Plus we saved a ton of money on welfare and food stamps and probably kept a few dope head demonrats from being elected.
 
2017-04-19 06:44:58 AM  

The Captain's Ghost: Weatherkiss: Trik: Can't believe she got only 3 years for this and served only part of it.

It's not that difficult to believe. She likely has no prior convictions and probably behaved herself in prison. There's very little chance she'll ever get hired by the state again, so the chances of her reoffending are very little.

I know this doesn't really sit well with the Internet Court of Law, but early release in this particular case isn't something I'm going to get worked up over.

I agree that for her the punishment is enough but this might be a case where a stiffer sentence would send a stronger message to others who might be tempted to follow in her footsteps.  This concept works a lot better for crimes like this than for crimes of passion.


That's not the way I want the justice system to handle a case if it's me, so I don't want it to handle it that way for anyone else either. If she deserved more time in prison, then so be it, but on its own merits, not  for  the sake of social engineering...
 
2017-04-19 07:01:21 AM  

AquaTatanka: Maybe that's how corruption happens in cops too. You want to look good to the department and get convictions to make the department look good. These people are criminals anyway, right? (Allegedly, but...) Fudge a fact, falsify a report and you're doing the world a favor by making sure someone bad is punished... maybe bad cops think they are doing the right thing.

No.  The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.  Local police departments are complicit in hiring bigots who shouldn't pass the smell test working as a grocery store bagger.  And bear in mind, it's not like they were in a hurry to get rid of these assholes even after it became ludicrously obvious who they really were.  To the contrary; they circled the wagons.

So, not the same.  The corruption of law enforcement was proactive, wilful, and enthusiastic.
 
2017-04-19 07:03:23 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?
 
2017-04-19 07:05:14 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people? Uh, what?

The point is that Sessions is backing measures that would make this hideously tragic anomaly the norm due to lack of oversight.

It was an extremely simple point.
 
2017-04-19 07:09:25 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?


Try reading it again. S-l-o-w-l-y.
 
2017-04-19 07:15:50 AM  

phrawgh: Sean VasDeferens: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?

Try reading it again. S-l-o-w-l-y.


That helped, thanks. It reads "T-r-u-m-p D-e-r-a-n-g-e-m-e-n-t S-y-n-d-r-o-m-e".  Got it!
 
2017-04-19 07:18:48 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: phrawgh: Sean VasDeferens: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?

Try reading it again. S-l-o-w-l-y.

That helped, thanks. It reads "T-r-u-m-p D-e-r-a-n-g-e-m-e-n-t S-y-n-d-r-o-m-e".  Got it!


You do realize Sessions wants to do the very things which leads to things like this happaning, right?

/Truth Denial Syndrome.
 
2017-04-19 07:23:56 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: But I want to hear an honest, full, non-weasal, direct statement from you,


Yeah, I think you're asking a bit much of the elf there...
 
2017-04-19 07:24:03 AM  
damn white males ruining the justice system
 
2017-04-19 07:25:17 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?


Directly?  No, but he has no problem with a future recurrence.  You missed the thread where Trump is ditching the science panel advising prosecutors, I take it...
 
2017-04-19 07:34:00 AM  
While I don't know of any "lives ruined", I do know some some heroin dealers that were released.
 
2017-04-19 07:38:30 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

I want to take hold of his pointy little hooded elf head, I want to shove his beady little pimple eyes at this article and I want to squeeze, just hard enough that he can feel the zit pus of his brain bulging against those ready to burst eyes.  And I want to tell him, "A statement.  I don't care which side you come down on.  That's between you and your god.  But I want to hear an honest, full, non-weasal, direct statement from you, and by god whichever way you go on it you had goddamn well better follow through not just in regards to these cases, but any cases like them, or I swear to all the burning blasphemies you could possibly name that I will come back and finish popping you like the infected perineum cyst ingrown asshole hair that you are.  Declare yourself, asshole.  Have you ever, EVER been an american or are you just a jackbooted usurper looking to hurt and control people."


Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

In all seriousness, I get how you feel.
 
2017-04-19 08:27:10 AM  

Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?


Fortunately we have vigilant Democratic oversight of prosecutors at the state level to prevent that.

\oh wait
 
2017-04-19 08:28:22 AM  

dragonchild: The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.


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2017-04-19 08:41:32 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: phrawgh: Sean VasDeferens: Weaver95: And remember - our wonderful hate muppet Jeff Sessions is doing his level best weaken oversight and force common standards among forensic testing labs.  are we feeling safer yet kids?

Sessions is responsible for this woman destroying the lives of 20,000 people?  Uh, what?

Try reading it again. S-l-o-w-l-y.

That helped, thanks. It reads "T-r-u-m-p D-e-r-a-n-g-e-m-e-n-t S-y-n-d-r-o-m-e".  Got it!


Well, considering that both Trump's words and his actions yell to the world that he wants to destroy everything good about this country and bring out everything everything and horrible that should have been buried in the past where it belongs, suggesting that "Trump derangement syndrome" is a valid refutation to any points good or bad says exactly where you stand in the culture wars that have been raging since the founding of this country and Thomas Jefferson's failure of courage: the side of hatred, intolerance and oppression. There is no middle ground, as conservatives have been pointing out my whole life. It's a battle between old style Old Testament hatred and oppression, and humanists, with an ever shrinking pool of uncommitted moderates between who somehow think that there may be common ground found between two mutually exclusive and mutually destructive positions.

The Republicans have long cast this as a religious war, and so it doesn't matter whether the other side considers it as such. Absolutism requires absolutism to stand up to it.
 
2017-04-19 08:44:44 AM  

This text is now purple: dragonchild: The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.

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There are even black Trump supporters these days. What you gonna do, though?
 
2017-04-19 08:48:52 AM  

uttertosh: This text is now purple: dragonchild: The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.

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There are even black Trump supporters these days. What you gonna do, though?


She might be Aryan, but I dunno about white.
 
2017-04-19 08:52:29 AM  
That waste of oxygen, Annie Dookhan, lives in the town I moved to, recently.
 
2017-04-19 09:02:43 AM  

This text is now purple: uttertosh: This text is now purple: dragonchild: The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.

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There are even black Trump supporters these days. What you gonna do, though?

She might be Aryan, but I dunno about white.


She may still believe in white supremacy. She was just following orders from white superiors, after all.
 
2017-04-19 09:13:10 AM  

uttertosh: This text is now purple: uttertosh: This text is now purple: dragonchild: The FBI has been monitoring white supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement agencies for some years now.

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There are even black Trump supporters these days. What you gonna do, though?

She might be Aryan, but I dunno about white.

She may still believe in white supremacy. She was just following orders from white superiors, after all.


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