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2017-04-18 01:31:54 PM  
You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.
 
2017-04-18 03:04:14 PM  
Obviously severe mental disorders are affecting the poor and the rich; most obvious on 'a poor person's idea of a rich person.'

/ I'm talking about a world leader with funny hair
// it does fit for that other world leader too
 
2017-04-18 03:26:32 PM  
Go crazy? Don't mind if I do!
 
2017-04-18 03:45:58 PM  
I know I enjoy mine...
 
2017-04-18 04:17:03 PM  
Well, yeah. It's all the EM and HAARP non-ionizing my brainspace!
 
2017-04-18 05:22:08 PM  

foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.


WTF are you on about?
 
2017-04-18 05:22:16 PM  
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2017-04-18 05:23:38 PM  
It depends on the moment, today it's been rather fun

then there's the days where i wish to crawl into a hole and pull the hole closed
 
2017-04-18 05:24:25 PM  
This helps explain President Trump.
 
2017-04-18 05:24:57 PM  
+1 on the headline, subby.  I lol'd.
 
2017-04-18 05:26:52 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Well, yeah. It's all the EM and HAARP non-ionizing my brainspace!


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2017-04-18 05:27:03 PM  

Smock Pot: Go crazy? Don't mind if I do!


Prince earworm!

Ooooh subby, you bad ;)
 
2017-04-18 05:28:57 PM  
No word on the current number of Americans enjoying them

I believe that Gallup had that number at 40% but Rasmussen said it was 50%.
 
2017-04-18 05:32:21 PM  

cwheelie: foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.

WTF are you on about?


All I know is that the trip to the ER I had recently due to anxiety attacks (I seriously thought I was having a heart attack after a while) was covered because of it. If they'd happened before it I would have been out another few thousand dollars I don't have.
 
2017-04-18 05:33:29 PM  
Count or rate?
 
2017-04-18 05:36:22 PM  
This has been the direction things have been heading since the mid-20th century. As society goes, so goes its constituent members.
 
2017-04-18 05:38:02 PM  
Increasing...or just finding more people who fall under the evolving definition of mentally ill?

I don't think we can accurately categorize something as slippery as mental health, especially considering the world's history of sweeping its loonies off to prisons, hospitals, and sanitariums instead of, you know, trying to spend time and money on the problem and seriously figuring out how to make the quality of life better.

And latching this problem onto a specific country, religion, and/or political movement is despicable and those who do it are cowards.
 
2017-04-18 05:41:17 PM  
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jiddukrish107856.html
 
2017-04-18 05:41:39 PM  
Subby is being funny, but for some people all you can do is learn to enjoy them. Meds and therapy don't work for everyone.
 
2017-04-18 05:44:29 PM  

rjakobi: Increasing...or just finding more people who fall under the evolving definition of mentally ill?

I know anecdote=/=data but personally, I think the number of crazies I know outnumber the well-adjusted ones.  People grow old, some people break, some are born broken and the mitigation just stops working.  From over here it really looks like something's going on, if not for the fact that every story's been different.

I'm probably crazy too, but I'm kind of in a "I don't have time to be crazy" state, since I can still deal with life and thus the "strong one" for a bunch of people in worse shape.  I'm so emotionally exhausted, and if I do a good job I'll just be exhausted until I die, since the alternative is watch a loved one fall apart completely.
 
2017-04-18 05:44:42 PM  
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2017-04-18 05:46:57 PM  
Wow, so the more mental disorders get created the more people appear to be suffering from them and then those same people who create them make more money as a result?
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2017-04-18 05:48:47 PM  

dragonchild: rjakobi: Increasing...or just finding more people who fall under the evolving definition of mentally ill?
I know anecdote=/=data but personally, I think the number of crazies I know outnumber the well-adjusted ones.  People grow old, some people break, some are born broken and the mitigation just stops working.  From over here it really looks like something's going on, if not for the fact that every story's been different.

I'm probably crazy too, but I'm kind of in a "I don't have time to be crazy" state, since I can still deal with life and thus the "strong one" for a bunch of people in worse shape.  I'm so emotionally exhausted, and if I do a good job I'll just be exhausted until I die, since the alternative is watch a loved one fall apart completely.


No need to worry.  If there is anything Fark has taught me, it is that anecdotes seem to be more effective than factual evidence.
 
2017-04-18 05:50:06 PM  
I blame the chemtrails and thought stealing satellites.
 
2017-04-18 05:54:30 PM  

rjakobi: Increasing...or just finding more people who fall under the evolving definition of mentally ill?


It's slightly more socially acceptable to seek help is all.  The CDC is aggregating info reported by medical professionals.

Hopefully someday it will be seen like a doctor visit to treat the cold, with a z-pack, juice and a few nights of taking it easy.
 
2017-04-18 05:58:26 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: Wow, so the more mental disorders get created the more people appear to be suffering from them and then those same people who create them make more money as a result?
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Don't misunderstand.  This isn't like Thripshaw's disease or gingivitis, in which maladies are made up on the spot.  With mental health, disorders are usually compartmentalized by their main symptoms and get tweaked around so that professionals figure out how to treat the patients properly.  A hundred years ago, many of these people would just have been branded as "lunatics" and carted off to an asylum to be "cured" with processes now listed under the Geneva Convention as war crimes.

Granted, streamlining syndromes and disorders can be confusing and tiring, but I'm just glad the doctors finally got the idea that calling a high-functioning autism spectrum as "Asperger's Syndrome" made the patient feel a bit more awkward.  Maybe someone showed them that South Park episode.  I dunno.
 
2017-04-18 06:04:42 PM  
I'm betting a quarter of them faked it so they could get their hands on disability checks
 
2017-04-18 06:06:00 PM  
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2017-04-18 06:09:10 PM  
I've discovered an increase in 

cwheelie: foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.

WTF are you on about?



I'm sure it's just b8 m8.

But I'll Bite;  This increase in diagnoses was probably made possible by people being able to get an actual diagnosis.
 
2017-04-18 06:09:34 PM  
apropos of nothing, "Shock Corridor" is showing right now on TCM.
 
2017-04-18 06:13:54 PM  
Somebody I know is mentally ill. She was examined by six psychiatrists and they came up with seven different Maladies. About par for the experts. Mind you, I am not saying that they were wrong. You can have seven kinds of crazy quite easily, and it is not as if each of the six experts came up with different diagnoses. There was no doubt considerable overlap.

I prefer to say that she is inhabited by seven demons. Figuratively speaking.

It makes it way easier to explain to Bible Toting Christians.

She is not suffering much most of the time. Just everybody around her.  Even an old atheist like me says a little prayer.  As for her, she loves her disease(s). They are normal for her. The phrase "nostalgie de la boue" comes to mind, although that is not a specific malady even in the King James demonology let alone the psychiatric manual. Could be problem number eight, although self-medication is also a contender.

Personally, I think marijuana was made for people like her and hope she can soon get it free on some government assistance plan, the sooner the better. Then again, it may not be helping, but she is not interested in help.

As I have suggested above, she is quite happy with her diabolical mental room mates. It is help that she fears. That's the paranoia and the narcissism. If she were American, President Turnip would probably have appointed her Secretary of Childcare by now.

It's not the marijuana that does the damage I suspect. It is the shiat that the pushers, growers, US Marines and so forth add to the marijuana and which the lusers take with it. Government weed wouldn't hurt a fly. It wouldn't help a fly either, but it is at least as harmless as the average homeopathic remedy. The placebo or nocebo effect is the hardest part of it.
 
2017-04-18 06:14:48 PM  

fusillade762: cwheelie: foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.

WTF are you on about?

All I know is that the trip to the ER I had recently due to anxiety attacks (I seriously thought I was having a heart attack after a while) was covered because of it. If they'd happened before it I would have been out another few thousand dollars I don't have.


Before Obama Care came along the same thing happened to me . My part of the bill was less than 200 bucks .  You must have had State Farm insurance , or Allstate .
 
2017-04-18 06:16:58 PM  
Put down your phones.
 
2017-04-18 06:19:21 PM  
Some people are born broken, some achieve broken, and some have broken thrust upon them. -- Christopher Titus.

Not really. But I like Christopher Titus so I will misattribute a paraphrase of Shakespeare to him, on spec as they say in the entertainment business.
 
2017-04-18 06:20:00 PM  
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2017-04-18 06:21:32 PM  
I'm quite blessed to have severe introversion and social anxiety.  It would be agony to have any desire to want to interact with people, most of which are quite stupid and smell funny.
 
2017-04-18 06:23:46 PM  
How many TotalFark subscribers are there?
 
2017-04-18 06:25:31 PM  
Truer words were never spoken.

https://youtu.be/-FsAkX2dAiU?t=1m20s
 
2017-04-18 06:30:56 PM  

rjakobi: No need to worry. If there is anything Fark has taught me, it is that anecdotes seem to be more effective than factual evidence.

Either way, factual evidence doesn't really help my situation, since the average doesn't really lighten my load.
 
2017-04-18 06:31:57 PM  
Yes, and some of them elected one of their own as president in 2016.
 
2017-04-18 06:36:07 PM  

cwheelie: foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.

WTF are you on about?


Affordable Care Act Obamacare was in place for TWO of the TEN years of the study: perhaps someone thinks it was too little too late, and it should have been instituted earlier, providing more care earlier for the nutters and poors.
 
2017-04-18 06:43:31 PM  

lindalouwho: Smock Pot: Go crazy? Don't mind if I do!

Prince earworm!

Ooooh subby, you bad ;)


Don't know a Simpsons reference when you see it?

Crazy yellow people walking through my head...
 
2017-04-18 06:44:10 PM  
The top twelve states ranked by healthy life expectancy are all Blue except for Utah. The bottom twelve are all Red. If you think there is anything wrong with Obamacare, take a look at Utah, the one Red State that doesn't suck totally at healthcare outcomes. They had it (Obamacare) ages before the Democrats came up with it. It should be called Utahcare.

A couple of the top twelve states (Hawaii, for one, maybe New York) match or exceed Canadian longevity--at tremendous cost. Remember that the USA is number on in the amount of money spent on both public and private healthcare, and that Canada is number two at two thirds of the US $$$$$.

I am not defending it because it is just a halfway house to saner, more accountable, more affordable, more effective, universal and portable health care. The sort of half-measure that is the best Democrats can think of, let alone get past Republi-cons.

Portability would be a good place to start. Health care should not be based on what your job title is, or who you work for, or where, or when. All of that has nothing to do with health care delivery in a sane country and a sane world. Even Germany, where they have 800 healthcare plans for all budgets and all tastes.

One step at a time. There are five pillars of decent public health care insurance. One pillar at a time. Start with portability, which would surely be the least contentious and least difficult to implement at a federal or a state level. You already have a massive public system, which is grotesquely over-priced and molly-coddled by governments. You can build portability into it and then proceed towards something sustainable and affordable ad hoc using the public system of insurance as Canada does (as everybody this side of Costa Rica does). Costa Rica has excellent public health care based on outcomes. Ironic that Rush Limbaugh claimed he would move there if Obamacare were implemented because I am sure he would have good medical care if he did.

To paraphrase Shakespeare again, First we kill all the lawyers ... HMOs, insurance companies,and overpaid money-grubbing doctors. Whoops. Remove the strikeout. Not needed.

But if you want to start to reform U$A$CARE, start by adopting Utahcare, aka Obamacare, aka Taxatusetts Republican Care, aka the Democratic Affordable Care Act, aka the Republican American Care Act. Note the change in name. About all the benefits you can hope to get from a Republican Congress.
 
2017-04-18 06:47:06 PM  

brantgoose: Somebody I know is mentally ill. She was examined by six psychiatrists and they came up with seven different Maladies. About par for the experts. Mind you, I am not saying that they were wrong. You can have seven kinds of crazy quite easily, and it is not as if each of the six experts came up with different diagnoses. There was no doubt considerable overlap.

I prefer to say that she is inhabited by seven demons. Figuratively speaking.


That's pretty much the exact problem.  Since we have almost no clue as to what causes most mental illnesses, we're reduced to little more than what folks in medieval times thought about normal illnesses that they would have said are caused by demons or humors

Right now all we can really do is point to symptoms.  It would be like going to a doctor and being told you have sneezing sickness, then another doctor tells you that you have coughing sickness, followed by a third that says you have fever illness.  They're all different facets of the same disease, but we want so badly to be able to give a specific name to a mental illness (so we can properly bill for it) that we create a constellation of overlapping diagnoses and then argue about if they really have sneezing or fever.
 
2017-04-18 06:48:00 PM  

cwheelie: foo monkey: You libs want more evidence Obamacare is failing?  Here you go.

WTF are you on about?


You're guess is as good as mine.  I think he misspelled "Reagan completely destroying our mental health system."
 
2017-04-18 07:03:53 PM  

ChipNASA: [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com image 494x436]


'tis just a flesh wound.....
 
2017-04-18 07:04:35 PM  
This news makes me need a safe space.
 
2017-04-18 07:06:22 PM  
... and a therapy iguana.
 
2017-04-18 07:21:34 PM  

brantgoose: Somebody I know is mentally ill. She was examined by six psychiatrists and they came up with seven different Maladies. About par for the experts. Mind you, I am not saying that they were wrong. You can have seven kinds of crazy quite easily, and it is not as if each of the six experts came up with different diagnoses. There was no doubt considerable overlap.

I prefer to say that she is inhabited by seven demons. Figuratively speaking.

It makes it way easier to explain to Bible Toting Christians.

She is not suffering much most of the time. Just everybody around her.  Even an old atheist like me says a little prayer.  As for her, she loves her disease(s). They are normal for her. The phrase "nostalgie de la boue" comes to mind, although that is not a specific malady even in the King James demonology let alone the psychiatric manual. Could be problem number eight, although self-medication is also a contender.

Personally, I think marijuana was made for people like her and hope she can soon get it free on some government assistance plan, the sooner the better. Then again, it may not be helping, but she is not interested in help.

As I have suggested above, she is quite happy with her diabolical mental room mates. It is help that she fears. That's the paranoia and the narcissism. If she were American, President Turnip would probably have appointed her Secretary of Childcare by now.

It's not the marijuana that does the damage I suspect. It is the shiat that the pushers, growers, US Marines and so forth add to the marijuana and which the lusers take with it. Government weed wouldn't hurt a fly. It wouldn't help a fly either, but it is at least as harmless as the average homeopathic remedy. The placebo or nocebo effect is the hardest part of it.


Most psychiatrists have an agreement rate of about 79 to 80% with their colleagues. Me talk disorders are not always easy to diagnose. Some are less interested in a diagnostic catagory per session anyways, especially since what it sounds like your friend has is.more of a personality disorder than something like schizophrenia (just guessing!)

It's easy to get all houghty toughty and make fun of "experts" being imperfect. But they know the hell of a lot more about their field than you ever will.

Of course there are always a few incompetents who slip into the mix of any professional or expert group.
 
2017-04-18 07:25:28 PM  

chawco: brantgoose: Somebody I know is mentally ill. She was examined by six psychiatrists and they came up with seven different Maladies. About par for the experts. Mind you, I am not saying that they were wrong. You can have seven kinds of crazy quite easily, and it is not as if each of the six experts came up with different diagnoses. There was no doubt considerable overlap.

I prefer to say that she is inhabited by seven demons. Figuratively speaking.

It makes it way easier to explain to Bible Toting Christians.

She is not suffering much most of the time. Just everybody around her.  Even an old atheist like me says a little prayer.  As for her, she loves her disease(s). They are normal for her. The phrase "nostalgie de la boue" comes to mind, although that is not a specific malady even in the King James demonology let alone the psychiatric manual. Could be problem number eight, although self-medication is also a contender.

Personally, I think marijuana was made for people like her and hope she can soon get it free on some government assistance plan, the sooner the better. Then again, it may not be helping, but she is not interested in help.

As I have suggested above, she is quite happy with her diabolical mental room mates. It is help that she fears. That's the paranoia and the narcissism. If she were American, President Turnip would probably have appointed her Secretary of Childcare by now.

It's not the marijuana that does the damage I suspect. It is the shiat that the pushers, growers, US Marines and so forth add to the marijuana and which the lusers take with it. Government weed wouldn't hurt a fly. It wouldn't help a fly either, but it is at least as harmless as the average homeopathic remedy. The placebo or nocebo effect is the hardest part of it.

Most psychiatrists have an agreement rate of about 79 to 80% with their colleagues. Me talk disorders are not always easy to diagnose. Some are less interested in a diagnostic catagory per session anyways, especially since what it sounds like your friend has is.more of a personality disorder than something like schizophrenia (just guessing!)

It's easy to get all houghty toughty and make fun of "experts" being imperfect. But they know the hell of a lot more about their field than you ever will.

Of course there are always a few incompetents who slip into the mix of any professional or expert group.


Relax chawco, it's brantgoose.
 
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