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(Vulture)   CBS Interactive president Marc DeBevoise sits down to talk about CBS All Access. Let Subby summarize the only part of the interview 90% of Fark cares about - Star Trek: Discovery will remain in spacedock for a good long while yet   ( vulture.com) divider line
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2017-04-18 08:50:10 AM  
From TFA: "It's going great, I've actually been up there [to the set]. It is, you know, phenomenal. It is huge. And we're very excited about the content, the creators, the actors, all coming together. As you said, we're not tied to any specific release date. "

Photo of Marc DeBevoise leaving the set of Star Trek : Discovery

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2017-04-18 09:48:15 AM  

TommyDeuce: From TFA: "It's going great, I've actually been up there [to the set]. It is, you know, phenomenal. It is huge. And we're very excited about the content, the creators, the actors, all coming together. As you said, we're not tied to any specific release date. "

Photo of Marc DeBevoise leaving the set of Star Trek : Discovery

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2017-04-18 09:54:14 AM  
In media as in the rest of society:  the old order will not release their grip until their hands are cold and dead.
 
2017-04-18 09:58:31 AM  
Yes, their master plan to promote YET ANOTHER streaming service by making a Star Trek series the centerpiece of it.

They are intentionally not licensing their shows to Netflix, Hulu or Amazon because they want to preserve the CBS "branding" on their shows by only having them on a CBS branded platform. . .they really think that the brands for broadcast networks will mean anything in the streaming era, and that their weight as a broadcast network will let them go toe-to-toe on the internet against Netflix et al.

Remember their plan to make UPN big by having Star Trek: Voyager as the centerpiece, instead of making it a syndicated show like TNG and DS9 were?

Discovery better be damn good for this plan to even have a ghost of a chance at working. . .and what we're seeing isn't filling us with confidence about that.
 
2017-04-18 10:03:29 AM  
10%ers represent.
 
2017-04-18 10:15:24 AM  
My budget currently only allows me to subscribe to a single streaming service- I had done both Netflix and Hulu simultaneously, and been gifted a year of Amazon Prime, so for a while I had all three at one, but my job situation changed, as did my priorities.  My Prime ran out, and when I lost my job I cancelled both Netflix and Hulu; when I got a new job, I could only do one, and so I reviewed my usage and my interests, and I realized I had been using Hulu mostly to watch stuff that was also available elsewhere, like the Daily Show or @Midnight, which are on cc.com, or a couple of broadcast network shows I can watch on-demand, or the CW Superhero shows, which moved to the CWSeed site.  Netflix has the Marvel shows, plus their other original content, plus massive catalogs of older shows and movies.

I'm actually at a point now where I'm considering putting Netflix on hold and activating Hulu for a month or two, mostly because I keep seeing all the hype around Rick & Morty what with the new season coming soon, and Hulu is where I'd need to go to check that out.  After that, I might consider hitting Prime back up for a bit, check out The Grand Tour and Man in the High Castle, and their catalog is pretty massive too, like Netflix's, but their interface is shirt for browsing, or at least was the last time I was on there, and so I'll likely check it out next time I'm buying something and they offer me a free month of Prime, rather than paying for it, and then I'll be back to Netflix in time for The Defenders.

But the idea of a new Trek series is far from enough for me to switch from Netflix or Hulu to CAA, and if my budget did expand to allow more than one streaming service, CAA is down the list from MLB All Access.

/And I'm not a baseball fan
//though I'm sort of trying to be to have something in common with my lady's family
 
2017-04-18 10:18:17 AM  

Silverstaff: Yes, their master plan to promote YET ANOTHER streaming service by making a Star Trek series the centerpiece of it.

They are intentionally not licensing their shows to Netflix, Hulu or Amazon because they want to preserve the CBS "branding" on their shows by only having them on a CBS branded platform. . .they really think that the brands for broadcast networks will mean anything in the streaming era, and that their weight as a broadcast network will let them go toe-to-toe on the internet against Netflix et al.

Remember their plan to make UPN big by having Star Trek: Voyager as the centerpiece, instead of making it a syndicated show like TNG and DS9 were?

Discovery better be damn good for this plan to even have a ghost of a chance at working. . .and what we're seeing isn't filling us with confidence about that.


Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.
 
2017-04-18 10:34:42 AM  

onzmadi: Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.


Even if Voyager was absolutely amazing, it couldn't support an entire network on its own.  There's only so much a tentpole show can do when it's run alongside shows like Shasta McNasty, Homeboys in Outer Space, and The Diaries of Desmond Pfeifer.
 
2017-04-18 10:35:01 AM  

onzmadi: Silverstaff: Yes, their master plan to promote YET ANOTHER streaming service by making a Star Trek series the centerpiece of it.

They are intentionally not licensing their shows to Netflix, Hulu or Amazon because they want to preserve the CBS "branding" on their shows by only having them on a CBS branded platform. . .they really think that the brands for broadcast networks will mean anything in the streaming era, and that their weight as a broadcast network will let them go toe-to-toe on the internet against Netflix et al.

Remember their plan to make UPN big by having Star Trek: Voyager as the centerpiece, instead of making it a syndicated show like TNG and DS9 were?

Discovery better be damn good for this plan to even have a ghost of a chance at working. . .and what we're seeing isn't filling us with confidence about that.

Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.


It might have worked better the first time if Voyager hadn't been so crappy.
 
2017-04-18 10:40:56 AM  

PlaidJaguar: onzmadi: Silverstaff: Yes, their master plan to promote YET ANOTHER streaming service by making a Star Trek series the centerpiece of it.

They are intentionally not licensing their shows to Netflix, Hulu or Amazon because they want to preserve the CBS "branding" on their shows by only having them on a CBS branded platform. . .they really think that the brands for broadcast networks will mean anything in the streaming era, and that their weight as a broadcast network will let them go toe-to-toe on the internet against Netflix et al.

Remember their plan to make UPN big by having Star Trek: Voyager as the centerpiece, instead of making it a syndicated show like TNG and DS9 were?

Discovery better be damn good for this plan to even have a ghost of a chance at working. . .and what we're seeing isn't filling us with confidence about that.

Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.

It might have worked better the first time if Voyager hadn't been so crappy.


That's the same plan that Paramount had in the 1970s when they wanted to start a fourth broadcast
network based around STAR TREK PHASE II.

They really and truly never learn, do they?
 
2017-04-18 10:42:01 AM  

NeoCortex42: onzmadi: Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.

Even if Voyager was absolutely amazing, it couldn't support an entire network on its own.  There's only so much a tentpole show can do when it's run alongside shows like Shasta McNasty, Homeboys in Outer Space, and The Diaries of Desmond Pfeifer.


Hey now, Homeboys had coherent writing, and better acting than Voyager.
 
2017-04-18 10:49:35 AM  

OkieDookie: NeoCortex42: onzmadi: Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.

Even if Voyager was absolutely amazing, it couldn't support an entire network on its own.  There's only so much a tentpole show can do when it's run alongside shows like Shasta McNasty, Homeboys in Outer Space, and The Diaries of Desmond Pfeifer.

Hey now, Homeboys had coherent writing, and better acting than Voyager.


Also, less salamander sex.
 
2017-04-18 11:09:21 AM  
There seems to be absolutely no reason to get CBS All Access.  I mean, there's live programming, yeah, but I can get that with an antenna.  They have exactly one original show right now.  And I'm fine with not having access to all seasons of NCIS: Des Moines.
 
2017-04-18 11:23:47 AM  

NeoCortex42: onzmadi: Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.

Even if Voyager was absolutely amazing, it couldn't support an entire network on its own.  There's only so much a tentpole show can do when it's run alongside shows like Shasta McNasty, Homeboys in Outer Space, and The Diaries of Desmond Pfeifer.


The Simpsons did it.
 
2017-04-18 11:25:01 AM  
I'm thinking a VPN and Netflix is the way to go, especially if you already have Netflix but live in the US or Canada.  With that said, I don't have high hopes for this show based off what I have read.  Hopefully, I will be proven wrong.  I've already been thinking about getting a VPN for reasons anyway.  There is no way I'm paying for CBS All Access.

The series will premiere on the standard CBS television network in May 2017, but subsequent episodes will be available exclusively on CBS All Access (which requires a monthly subscription) for audiences in Canada and the U.S. In addition, the series will be available on Netflix for international audiences in 188 other countries. Netflix will reportedly get each episode within 24 hours of its premiere on CBS All Access.
 
2017-04-18 11:44:29 AM  
I'm calling it: Discovery is vaporware that is being used as copyright bait so that they can keep the franchise and justify their "why we can't have nice things, Axanar" fandom guidelines.

/it's their Fantastic Four
 
2017-04-18 11:44:35 AM  

aungen: NeoCortex42: onzmadi: Jesus exactly
Its like they completely forgot that this plan was tried when Star Trek was near the height of its popularity, and failed. What do they expect it to do in its current emaciated no on gives a crap state.

Even if Voyager was absolutely amazing, it couldn't support an entire network on its own.  There's only so much a tentpole show can do when it's run alongside shows like Shasta McNasty, Homeboys in Outer Space, and The Diaries of Desmond Pfeifer.

The Simpsons did it.


They also had Married with Children and Cops.  Not to mention, various Animals Attacking specials.  They at least got some viewers outside of Simpsons.
 
2017-04-18 11:45:12 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm calling it: Discovery is vaporware that is being used as copyright bait so that they can keep the franchise and justify their "why we can't have nice things, Axanar" fandom guidelines.

/it's their Fantastic Four


It's not licensed though, is it?  Don't they flat-out own the rights to the franchise?
 
2017-04-18 11:48:14 AM  

NeoCortex42: OtherLittleGuy: I'm calling it: Discovery is vaporware that is being used as copyright bait so that they can keep the franchise and justify their "why we can't have nice things, Axanar" fandom guidelines.

/it's their Fantastic Four

It's not licensed though, is it?  Don't they flat-out own the rights to the franchise?


They do, indeed, own STAR TREK outright, but while I'm not agreeing with OtherLIttleGuy, it could be
that they may have started production on ST:D (now there's an unfortunate acronym) earlier than they
might have to get some leverage against the Axanar guys.
 
2017-04-18 11:49:07 AM  

PlaidJaguar: My budget currently only allows me to subscribe to a single streaming service- I had done both Netflix and Hulu simultaneously, and been gifted a year of Amazon Prime, so for a while I had all three at one, but my job situation changed, as did my priorities.  My Prime ran out, and when I lost my job I cancelled both Netflix and Hulu; when I got a new job, I could only do one, and so I reviewed my usage and my interests, and I realized I had been using Hulu mostly to watch stuff that was also available elsewhere, like the Daily Show or @Midnight, which are on cc.com, or a couple of broadcast network shows I can watch on-demand, or the CW Superhero shows, which moved to the CWSeed site.  Netflix has the Marvel shows, plus their other original content, plus massive catalogs of older shows and movies.

I'm actually at a point now where I'm considering putting Netflix on hold and activating Hulu for a month or two, mostly because I keep seeing all the hype around Rick & Morty what with the new season coming soon, and Hulu is where I'd need to go to check that out.  After that, I might consider hitting Prime back up for a bit, check out The Grand Tour and Man in the High Castle, and their catalog is pretty massive too, like Netflix's, but their interface is shirt for browsing, or at least was the last time I was on there, and so I'll likely check it out next time I'm buying something and they offer me a free month of Prime, rather than paying for it, and then I'll be back to Netflix in time for The Defenders.

But the idea of a new Trek series is far from enough for me to switch from Netflix or Hulu to CAA, and if my budget did expand to allow more than one streaming service, CAA is down the list from MLB All Access.

/And I'm not a baseball fan
//though I'm sort of trying to be to have something in common with my lady's family


SWIM said to use Kodi/Exodus on Amazon fire stick so you can stream whatever you want.
 
2017-04-18 12:03:18 PM  

WeirdSmiley: PlaidJaguar: My budget currently only allows me to subscribe to a single streaming service- I had done both Netflix and Hulu simultaneously, and been gifted a year of Amazon Prime, so for a while I had all three at one, but my job situation changed, as did my priorities.  My Prime ran out, and when I lost my job I cancelled both Netflix and Hulu; when I got a new job, I could only do one, and so I reviewed my usage and my interests, and I realized I had been using Hulu mostly to watch stuff that was also available elsewhere, like the Daily Show or @Midnight, which are on cc.com, or a couple of broadcast network shows I can watch on-demand, or the CW Superhero shows, which moved to the CWSeed site.  Netflix has the Marvel shows, plus their other original content, plus massive catalogs of older shows and movies.

I'm actually at a point now where I'm considering putting Netflix on hold and activating Hulu for a month or two, mostly because I keep seeing all the hype around Rick & Morty what with the new season coming soon, and Hulu is where I'd need to go to check that out.  After that, I might consider hitting Prime back up for a bit, check out The Grand Tour and Man in the High Castle, and their catalog is pretty massive too, like Netflix's, but their interface is shirt for browsing, or at least was the last time I was on there, and so I'll likely check it out next time I'm buying something and they offer me a free month of Prime, rather than paying for it, and then I'll be back to Netflix in time for The Defenders.

But the idea of a new Trek series is far from enough for me to switch from Netflix or Hulu to CAA, and if my budget did expand to allow more than one streaming service, CAA is down the list from MLB All Access.

/And I'm not a baseball fan
//though I'm sort of trying to be to have something in common with my lady's family

SWIM said to use Kodi/Exodus on Amazon fire stick so you can stream whatever you want.


Yeah, I know that's an option - I haven't done much with Kodi since back when it was still XBMC before I got bored with my Raspberry Pi, but I try to do as much of my content appropriation legitimately as I can these days.
 
2017-04-18 12:47:16 PM  

diggumsmax: I'm thinking a VPN and Netflix is the way to go, especially if you already have Netflix but live in the US or Canada.  With that said, I don't have high hopes for this show based off what I have read.  Hopefully, I will be proven wrong.  I've already been thinking about getting a VPN for reasons anyway.  There is no way I'm paying for CBS All Access.

The series will premiere on the standard CBS television network in May 2017, but subsequent episodes will be available exclusively on CBS All Access (which requires a monthly subscription) for audiences in Canada and the U.S. In addition, the series will be available on Netflix for international audiences in 188 other countries. Netflix will reportedly get each episode within 24 hours of its premiere on CBS All Access.


Well, there are alternatives....

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CBS would be better off to join forces with one of the big streamers as a content provider. Their days as one of the "Big Three" have long since passed... seems like they are holding on to the glory days and will probably end up crashing and burning hard.
 
2017-04-18 12:50:09 PM  

PlaidJaguar: It might have worked better the first time if Voyager hadn't been so crappy.


BBC America has been rebroadcasting Voyager, and I've watched a few just to see if it was as bad as I remembered.  It is.
 
2017-04-18 01:02:24 PM  

LesserEvil: diggumsmax: I'm thinking a VPN and Netflix is the way to go, especially if you already have Netflix but live in the US or Canada.  With that said, I don't have high hopes for this show based off what I have read.  Hopefully, I will be proven wrong.  I've already been thinking about getting a VPN for reasons anyway.  There is no way I'm paying for CBS All Access.

The series will premiere on the standard CBS television network in May 2017, but subsequent episodes will be available exclusively on CBS All Access (which requires a monthly subscription) for audiences in Canada and the U.S. In addition, the series will be available on Netflix for international audiences in 188 other countries. Netflix will reportedly get each episode within 24 hours of its premiere on CBS All Access.

Well, there are alternatives....

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CBS would be better off to join forces with one of the big streamers as a content provider. Their days as one of the "Big Three" have long since passed... seems like they are holding on to the glory days and will probably end up crashing and burning hard.


The old Big Three was NBC, ABC, and CBS.

The new Big Three are Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime
 
2017-04-18 01:53:34 PM  
I had missed that Bryan Fuller had left, along with any reason I had to watch.
 
2017-04-18 02:54:27 PM  
Star Trek : Paramount's Unwatched Series
 
2017-04-18 03:48:40 PM  
I just wish that Paramount would figure out what to do with the ST IP.  The higher ups insisted that they should sexy up the reboot movies and they were a mess.  Casting was great, but the writing and direction were awful.  It looks like they are trying the same approach with the series.
 
2017-04-18 06:03:01 PM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: PlaidJaguar: It might have worked better the first time if Voyager hadn't been so crappy.

BBC America has been rebroadcasting Voyager, and I've watched a few just to see if it was as bad as I remembered.  It is.


Doesn't help that the episodes seem to be the same shiatty formatting as the TNG episodes they aired. Has TV technology advanced that much in the last 17 years or is it just me that thinks they look like complete crap?
 
2017-04-18 06:14:48 PM  
You can ask ten Trekkies what they want in a new Star Trek series and you'll get ten different answers. Imagine trying to get ten CBS executives to agree on one.
 
2017-04-18 07:05:11 PM  
With how poorly they've handled Star Trek in recent years, I think I'd be more excited for a remake of Seven Days.
 
2017-04-19 08:56:34 AM  

Fireproof: I had missed that Bryan Fuller had left, along with any reason I had to watch.


Nicholas Meyer is apparently still on board, so there's still some hope.

/nah, it's gonna suck
 
2017-04-19 10:51:59 AM  

rummonkey: I just wish that Paramount would figure out what to do with the ST IP.  The higher ups insisted that they should sexy up the reboot movies and they were a mess.  Casting was great, but the writing and direction were awful.  It looks like they are trying the same approach with the series.


I think sexy and fun would be just fine in a Star Trek series, if they do it right. But if they do the series by committee, with a check list of fan service ideas need to be satisfied then it'll fail no matter what overall theme they try to go with. To me that's what has been wrong with the movies. Too many cutesie call backs to the old movies and series. Set the series up so it is canon-free. New worlds and new civilizations and all that, not recycling the same old shiat yet again.
 
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