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2017-04-18 07:39:11 AM  
That's a bold move Cotten, let's see how that works out for her
 
2017-04-18 07:39:13 AM  
Yay? Boo?
 
2017-04-18 07:39:39 AM  
She took power in July, which makes her an August personage.
 
2017-04-18 07:39:41 AM  
Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.
 
2017-04-18 07:40:16 AM  
Hopefully I'm out before the shiat hits the fan ~ May.
 
2017-04-18 07:40:45 AM  
Can't they just fire them?
 
2017-04-18 07:42:21 AM  
Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?
 
2017-04-18 07:44:59 AM  

Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?


I'd like to think there's everything to play for, but in reality Labour will likely fail to get their act in gear and Lib Dems won't poll big numbers on the the big day. A good half of adults won't vote, and it's 4 more years of Tories.

Whatever happens brexit won't be reversed.
 
2017-04-18 07:45:58 AM  
it'll be interesting to watch what putin does. brexit suits him, of course, and he used his state-controlled western propaganda to agitate for it, but i would think in jeremy corbyn, seumas milne et al he currently sees a couple of useful idiots, and i would have thought he wouldn't want them to get destroyed and the party to move back away from the largely anti-europe beliefs of the current leadership
 
2017-04-18 07:46:14 AM  
Will that give the Putinbots enough time to social-media fragmentize the electorate?

/probably
 
2017-04-18 07:48:19 AM  

Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?


Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.
 
2017-04-18 07:50:51 AM  

Antidamascus: Yay? Boo?


Exactly, can someone tell me what this means?
 
2017-04-18 07:51:39 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.


do you want to discuss the actions of rt and sputnik today?

and you are suggesting that getting nigel farage elected as an mp would have been more important to putin than brexit?

oh yeah
 
2017-04-18 07:52:11 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-18 07:52:31 AM  
You are an absolute morom if you vote for this Trump-loving featherhead.

But then the Brits voted twice for that Dubya-loving dollard, Blair who blew millions on the Bush "state visits"

s29.postimg.org
 
2017-04-18 07:53:29 AM  
i don't know what the fascists are shining their boots with these days, but it's doing something terrible to the bootlickers' brains
 
2017-04-18 07:54:43 AM  
I wonder if it's because the Tories see Labour in such disarray that they figure this is their best shot, as things will only get worse for the people (and the government) as Brexit looms.
 
2017-04-18 07:55:23 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?

Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.


I think there's evidence that they had their foot on the scale, yes.
 
2017-04-18 07:56:49 AM  
My takes from the redlit thread:

I expect the Lib Dems will make some gains this election - I think a lot of their base has forgiven them for their coalition with the Tories and they've taken a firm anti-Brexit position, but I don't see a change of government on the cards. Labour is too far behind.

The Scottish Nationalist Party won 56 of 59 Scottish Westminster seats in 2015, which is pretty much a high water mark but if they increase their majorities in those seats it would be an encouraging sign for the independence referendum.

The other thing I'll be looking for is whether UKIP is a spent force now that Brexit has been achieved.
 
2017-04-18 07:58:39 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2017-04-18 07:58:52 AM  

RJReves: She took power in July, which makes her an August personage.


Oh you sweet summer Prime Minister.
 
2017-04-18 07:59:07 AM  

Munden: Antidamascus: Yay? Boo?

Exactly, can someone tell me what this means?


Devilish cunning. Calling an election when your main opponents (Labour, LibDems, UKIP, SNP to a lesser extent) are in disarray, boosts parliamentary majority, ensures ideological purity in Brexit negotiations.

If you believe in some vestiges of socialism in the British state, this is bad news. The Tories will gleefully proceed with dismantling NHS, education, local government, social security, and hiving off more state-owned assets - all to the benefit of deregulated private businesses, many of whom have Tory MP executives or board members.

If you believe in free market capitalism, this is... well, you're a fecking moron, so nothing's going to help you anyway.

If you believe in laughing all the way to the taxpayer-funded bank with your taxpayer-funded swag, this is good news.
 
2017-04-18 08:02:22 AM  
I wish Sinn Fein would drop abstention so I can watch Nigel Dodds bite his own head off on live TV.
 
2017-04-18 08:05:30 AM  
Well there ya go, Scotland. Now is the time to get the fark out. You know how this is going to end.
 
2017-04-18 08:06:06 AM  

NoahBuddy: Munden: Antidamascus: Yay? Boo?

Exactly, can someone tell me what this means?

Devilish cunning. Calling an election when your main opponents (Labour, LibDems, UKIP, SNP to a lesser extent) are in disarray, boosts parliamentary majority, ensures ideological purity in Brexit negotiations.


Why are they in disarray?
 
2017-04-18 08:06:46 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?

Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.


It's the new version of the red scare.
 
2017-04-18 08:07:30 AM  

thisispete: The other thing I'll be looking for is whether UKIP is a spent force


I'm pretty sure they are. They've got nothing to offer anyone anymore. They'll probably go a little bit more fringe, because anything to the left of them is covered pretty well.
 
2017-04-18 08:11:19 AM  

Munden: NoahBuddy: Munden: Antidamascus: Yay? Boo?

Exactly, can someone tell me what this means?

Devilish cunning. Calling an election when your main opponents (Labour, LibDems, UKIP, SNP to a lesser extent) are in disarray, boosts parliamentary majority, ensures ideological purity in Brexit negotiations.

Why are they in disarray?


I'm not particularly knowledgable in this area, but one problem the left here has got is the same as you've got in the US. Working class or poor =/= liberal.
 
2017-04-18 08:11:23 AM  

blackminded: Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.


I just don't understand how it's "better" for those in power to selectively choose when elections occur in order to maximize their chance of winning.
 
2017-04-18 08:13:52 AM  

RJReves: She took power in July, which makes her an August personage.


April March - Mignonette
Youtube UtvB6vzJSao
 
2017-04-18 08:14:30 AM  

Munden: Why are they in disarray?


for the last election the left-wing part moved to the left and loss. in response to that loss, the party then went quite a bit further left, as hard-left factions seized the opportunity to exert increased control.
 
2017-04-18 08:15:02 AM  
/'lost' not 'loss,' sorry, munden
 
2017-04-18 08:15:15 AM  

meanmutton: blackminded: Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.

I just don't understand how it's "better" for those in power to selectively choose when elections occur in order to maximize their chance of winning.


Funnily enough no one seems to be talking about the Fixed Term Parliament act which put an end to that. Elections are fixed in 5 year cycles, next one in 2020. There are loopholes, but unless the act is repealed I don't see Labour going along with it.
 
2017-04-18 08:18:01 AM  

Slaxl: thisispete: The other thing I'll be looking for is whether UKIP is a spent force

I'm pretty sure they are. They've got nothing to offer anyone anymore. They'll probably go a little bit more fringe, because anything to the left of them is covered pretty well.


I think so too. They were a single issue party, and they won that issue. They should not stand at all and say their supporters should vote Conservative.
 
2017-04-18 08:18:53 AM  

Lady J: I'm not particularly knowledgable in this area, but one problem the left here has got is the same as you've got in the US. Working class or poor =/= liberal.


21-7-b: Munden: Why are they in disarray?

for the last election the left-wing part moved to the left and loss. in response to that loss, the party then went quite a bit further left, as hard-left factions seized the opportunity to exert increased control.


21-7-b: /'lost' not 'loss,' sorry, munden


thanks, starting to get a clearer picture now
 
2017-04-18 08:22:05 AM  

blackminded: Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.


Instability and unpredictability are Good Things?  Who knew?...

/ the UK parliamentary system was well-known to the people who wrote the US Constitution (at least in its 1700s form) since they had previously been British subjects -- known and rejected
 
2017-04-18 08:22:25 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?

Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.


There isn't any. Delusions born of mental illness and bong resin.  Would be sad if it wasn't so amusing.
 
2017-04-18 08:24:03 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: You are an absolute morom if you vote for this Trump-loving featherhead.


Morom? Mormon? Moro? Romo? Rom-com?
 
2017-04-18 08:24:44 AM  

GORDON: Ron Vibbentrop: Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?

Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.

There isn't any. Delusions born of mental illness and bong resin.  Would be sad if it wasn't so amusing.


would you like flesh this out? if you have time, perhaps we could start by discussing rt and sputnik media?
 
2017-04-18 08:25:22 AM  
See this is why we had to bail them out twice in the world wars. A few weeks to run a campaign and let people know you. Over here in the greatest country ever we do it right taking 3 1/2 years of visits, exploratory committees, 27 rounds of Republican Primary debates on Fox, Primaries and then the general election. There is no way a short election cycle will ever provide enough material for late night comics
 
2017-04-18 08:26:12 AM  
Why can't America have a 6 week election season?
But, then half the Politics tab would disappear.
 
2017-04-18 08:26:23 AM  
There is a part of me that desperately hopes this will backfire on her and her party.

It is unlikely, I know. She is leading in all opinion polls, her opposition is not organized but well....there is still time and ...it is just that quite a few bad things happened even when the odds were against them, last year. Surely, it is time for something "good" to happen despite the odds being against them.

Perhaps the love for Ms. Prime Minister is eclipsed by the hatred for the US president. Maybe the image of the two of them together and Ms. May flattering him will ...I don't know. I can hope.
 
2017-04-18 08:26:52 AM  

21-7-b: GORDON: Ron Vibbentrop: Ecobuckeye: Help me understand this. The Russians skewed the vote to pass Brexit, and May now hopes to ride that artificial wave towards a conservative sweep? Am I following this correctly? Also, what could possibly go wrong?

Any actual evidence the Russians "skewed the vote"? How come they couldn't manage to get Nigel Farage elected as an MP? This claim is from people desperate to discredit the vote to leave the EU.

There isn't any. Delusions born of mental illness and bong resin.  Would be sad if it wasn't so amusing.

would you like flesh this out? if you have time, perhaps we could start by discussing rt and sputnik media?


Funny that in the other thread when I actually responded to some facts you posted you quickly backed off and tried to go back to talking about RT again.....
 
2017-04-18 08:27:52 AM  

Slaxl: meanmutton: blackminded: Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.

I just don't understand how it's "better" for those in power to selectively choose when elections occur in order to maximize their chance of winning.

Funnily enough no one seems to be talking about the Fixed Term Parliament act which put an end to that. Elections are fixed in 5 year cycles, next one in 2020. There are loopholes, but unless the act is repealed I don't see Labour going along with it.


I mentioned it in another thread, and the loophole is that she needs a two-thirds vote, which she'll get because why stop something that would bring a worse result, so just roll over and let it happen/
 
2017-04-18 08:28:13 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: You are an absolute morom if you vote for this Trump-loving featherhead.

But then the Brits voted twice for that Dubya-loving dollard, Blair who blew millions on the Bush "state visits"

[s29.postimg.org image 300x393]


Actually someone should suggest to Donald that he should do Theresa a solid and come over here and support her.

He likes campaigning, it'll be great.
 
2017-04-18 08:28:38 AM  

Cheron: See this is why we had to bail them out twice in the world wars. A few weeks to run a campaign and let people know you. Over here in the greatest country ever we do it right taking 3 1/2 years of visits, exploratory committees, 27 rounds of Republican Primary debates on Fox, Primaries and then the general election. There is no way a short election cycle will ever provide enough material for late night comics


And when a new leader wins an election they're in office and in power within about ten hours. None of this three month transition nonsense....
 
2017-04-18 08:28:57 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: Funny that in the other thread when I actually responded to some facts you posted you quickly backed off and tried to go back to talking about RT again.....


i said i would like to challenge your interpretation there, but didn't want to let you just ignore the questions about rt and sputnik, didn't i? is that unreasonable, given that i had been asking you about rt and sputnik previously?
 
2017-04-18 08:30:56 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Day_Old_Dutchie: You are an absolute morom if you vote for this Trump-loving featherhead.

But then the Brits voted twice for that Dubya-loving dollard, Blair who blew millions on the Bush "state visits"

[s29.postimg.org image 300x393]

Actually someone should suggest to Donald that he should do Theresa a solid and come over here and support her.

He likes campaigning, it'll be great.


That backfired on Cameron. We generally like and respect President Obama but when Cameron got him to lecture us on why we should stay in the EU it pissed a lot of people off. Trump would get laughed off stage.
 
2017-04-18 08:31:51 AM  

Slaxl: meanmutton: blackminded: Yes, the UK Parliamentary government is better than ours. Thanks for underlining it subs.

I just don't understand how it's "better" for those in power to selectively choose when elections occur in order to maximize their chance of winning.

Funnily enough no one seems to be talking about the Fixed Term Parliament act which put an end to that. Elections are fixed in 5 year cycles, next one in 2020. There are loopholes, but unless the act is repealed I don't see Labour going along with it.


They need a 2/3 majority to pass the snap election. It's going to pass. Every faction in Parliament has a reason to go along with it.

The Tories, of course, look to increase their majority.

Corbyn looks weak and pathetic if he votes against a chance for his party to recapture power against an 'unelected' PM; to vote against would be an admission that he has left the party much, much weaker than it was in 2015, and would invite the question of what precisely he intends to do if not to win elections. The leader of the opposition needs to welcome the chance to make his argument to the public -- and, on the off chance he manages to bounce back a bit and loses not-quite-as-badly-as-expected, he can try to spin that as enough of an argument to cling on to power for another few years.

The anti-Corbyn majority in Labour would rather take their losses now, boot Corbyn in the wake of an unmitigated and unambiguous failure, and start rebuilding for 2020 than let him weigh the party down for three more years. They're going to lose an election with him around their necks, and it seems they're not going to be able to get rid of him until he loses that election for them. Might as well do it now.

The Lib Dems wouldn't mind watching Labour continue its collapse; that only bolsters their own claim to be the only functional pro-EU, centre-left party in the country. Besides, they've got a chance to win back a few dozen of their old seats -- and wouldn't that be nice?

SNP would be happy to increase their 'mandate,' giving them more of a backing for their demand for a second referendum. If the pro-independence party makes another clean sweep of the Scottish seats, and especially if they increase their majorities, it gives Sturgeon plenty more ammunition to use in her argument that she, rather than May, is the only elected voice of Scotland.

UKIP has only 1 seat in Parliament.

Who has reason to vote against?
 
2017-04-18 08:33:14 AM  
GORDON / RonRibbentrop

you're not doing a very good job reassuring people that russia wasn't cheerleading brexit if you absolutely refuse to even discuss the english-language, russian state-controlled media targeting western audiences
 
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