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2017-04-17 02:36:42 PM  
Was he malled to death?
 
2017-04-17 02:37:05 PM  
Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?
 
2017-04-17 03:08:55 PM  

wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?


Frugal Psychopaths?
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2017-04-17 05:15:28 PM  

bighairyguy: Was he malled to death?


Go ahead...click it.

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2017-04-17 07:42:29 PM  
Did Ziva punch him in the throat?
 
2017-04-17 07:43:19 PM  
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2017-04-17 07:46:22 PM  
Blame the attorney who told him to hang in there until the trial.
 
2017-04-17 07:47:21 PM  
Arcan Cetin, 20, hanged himself while in custody on Sunday night, according to The Skagit County prosecutor handling the case.
It was not immediately clear how Cetin died. KIRO 7 is asking whether his death was a suicide, homicide, natural causes or accidental.


Um...

I'm going with the "natural causes self hanging" death.
 
2017-04-17 07:47:39 PM  
I'm sad we couldn't pay to imprison him for the rest of his life, hoping he would develop remorse for what he did.

/ Really, I am.
// Yes it would have cost a lot of money.
/// True justice usually does. This sort of de facto death penalty (by State, other inmates, or suicide) is never the "bargain" people think it is.
 
2017-04-17 07:49:46 PM  
Arcan Cetin, 20, hanged himself while in custody on Sunday night, according to The Skagit County prosecutor handling the case.

It was not immediately clear how Cetin died.


I'm gonna go with "hanging"

KIRO 7 is asking whether his death was a suicide, homicide, natural causes or accidental.

Of course! The old death by natural causes by hanging death trick!
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KIRO 7 Reporter Rob Munoz is asking authorities those questions and getting additional details for KIRO 7 News at Noon.
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2017-04-17 07:49:50 PM  
I guess that's going to really piss off all the lawyers who were looking forward to being paid for their work during that trial.

I rather doubt anyone else is going to mind.
 
2017-04-17 07:49:59 PM  

wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?


You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves
 
2017-04-17 07:51:23 PM  

nullptr: I'm sad we couldn't pay to imprison him for the rest of his life, hoping he would develop remorse for what he did.

/ Really, I am.
// Yes it would have cost a lot of money.
/// True justice usually does. This sort of de facto death penalty (by State, other inmates, or suicide) is never the "bargain" people think it is.


He killed himself. I think that's enough evidence of guilt and remorse.
 
2017-04-17 07:54:08 PM  
Well, bye.
 
2017-04-17 07:54:24 PM  

iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.


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2017-04-17 07:54:52 PM  

Omnis_evil_twin: I think that's enough evidence of guilt and remorse.


Could be he was claustrophobic.  Alleged murder of five people says to me he didn't have a great deal of remorse.
 
2017-04-17 07:55:05 PM  
Suggest including a warning when linking to asshat sites like this one that use auto-playing videos.
 
2017-04-17 07:55:39 PM  
I would like to be able to trust the police on this.  I would really like to be able to.
 
2017-04-17 07:57:00 PM  

Unobtanium: Arcan Cetin, 20, hanged himself while in custody on Sunday night, according to The Skagit County prosecutor handling the case.

It was not immediately clear how Cetin died.

I'm gonna go with "hanging"

KIRO 7 is asking whether his death was a suicide, homicide, natural causes or accidental.

Of course! The old death by natural causes by hanging death trick!
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KIRO 7 Reporter Rob Munoz is asking authorities those questions and getting additional details for KIRO 7 News at Noon.
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Asphyxiation is a natural cause. The rope/torn pillow casing though...... that's why my grandpa would have label him as organic instead of free-range.

/ my material grandpa raised hogs, chickens and cows. He might not have been the most... forthright individual

// he was better than my great uncle though. He may or may not have been a horse thief
 
2017-04-17 07:57:24 PM  
"He fell"
 
2017-04-17 07:58:35 PM  

Omnis_evil_twin: He killed himself. I think that's enough evidence of guilt and remorse.


Not necessarily. An innocent person might despair to the point of suicide under these circumstances (I'm NOT saying he's innocent, just that suicide itself isn't proof of guilt), or if he has a underlying mental illness he may be suicidal as well for reasons unrelated to guilt or remorse.
 
2017-04-17 08:05:49 PM  

ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

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semi auto, but still a rotating bolt?

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2017-04-17 08:05:59 PM  
Subby, what was "mysterious" about the death? It's not the first time someone who faces the death penalty for a crime decided to hang themselves in jail.
 
2017-04-17 08:06:16 PM  

ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

dogheadtilt.jpg


A bolt action 10/22 is most certainly a thing. That's what I learned to shoot on. Hell, Ruger still makes them. Although, they don't have internal mags anymore. Just googlize it, it's the first result.

/ I could probably still do 3 aimed shots in 5.6 seconds....
 
2017-04-17 08:07:08 PM  

Omnis_evil_twin: He killed himself. I think that's enough evidence of guilt and remorse.


Could just be evidence of not wanting to spend life in prison.
 
2017-04-17 08:07:16 PM  

wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?


A .22 LR isn't a cap gun... He did kill 5.

Yeah, I know he was crazy, but .22 LR is the most common caliber in police evidence lockers for a reason.
 
2017-04-17 08:08:55 PM  

iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves


What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple
 
2017-04-17 08:13:57 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple


It's an ancient Ruger bolt action 10/22. It's got an internal, i.e. non-removable, mag. It's older than I am.

/ Ruger still makes them in bolt action.  Google it. It's the first result
 
2017-04-17 08:14:30 PM  
iheartscotch: ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

dogheadtilt.jpg

A bolt action 10/22 is most certainly a thing. That's what I learned to shoot on. Hell, Ruger still makes them. Although, they don't have internal mags anymore. Just googlize it, it's the first result.

Ruger makes .22lr bolt-action rifles, sure.  But the 10/22 is semi-automatic and always has been.
 
2017-04-17 08:16:07 PM  

wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?


Someone whose daddy doesn't secure his weapon and 25 round magazine.
 
2017-04-17 08:16:09 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: What 10/22 are you shooting? They are semi auto


Ruger bolt-action 10/22
 
2017-04-17 08:17:59 PM  

iheartscotch: Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple

It's an ancient Ruger bolt action 10/22. It's got an internal, i.e. non-removable, mag. It's older than I am.

/ Ruger still makes them in bolt action.  Google it. It's the first result


Cool, Grandad sent me out to get varmints with a single shot bolt action .22.  Didnt know that about the 10/22.
 
2017-04-17 08:18:29 PM  

ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

dogheadtilt.jpg

A bolt action 10/22 is most certainly a thing. That's what I learned to shoot on. Hell, Ruger still makes them. Although, they don't have internal mags anymore. Just googlize it, it's the first result.

Ruger makes .22lr bolt-action rifles, sure.  But the 10/22 is semi-automatic and always has been.


Ok, fine. It's a bolt action .22 that has an internal 10 round magazine. But, it's definitely not a 10/22

/ now, I suppose you'll want to argue that the "r" in 7.62x54r stands for "Russian" not "rimmed"....
 
2017-04-17 08:20:27 PM  
"Natural causes"

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2017-04-17 08:20:48 PM  

nullptr: I'm sad we couldn't pay to imprison him for the rest of his life, hoping he would develop remorse for what he did.

/ Really, I am.
// Yes it would have cost a lot of money.
/// True justice usually does. This sort of de facto death penalty (by State, other inmates, or suicide) is never the "bargain" people think it is.


I thought about it, but I still fail to see the benefit of his developing remorse.

He would essentially have been a waste of resources. He'd be provided with accommodation, food and medical care for the rest of his life, while non-murdering citizens aren't guaranteed those things. When we have food, shelter and medical care for every law abiding citizen, then we can get all high and mighty and be nice to people who act in such an atrociously violent manner. If there is not enough to go around, people like him should have to miss out first.
 
2017-04-17 08:22:03 PM  

jaytkay: Igor Jakovsky: What 10/22 are you shooting? They are semi auto

Ruger bolt-action 10/22


No, that's the "Ruger American Rimfire."  That's the model name for their current bolt-action .22lr rifle, just like "10/22" is the model name for one of their current semi-automatic .22lr rifles (the "SR-22" is the other).

The 10/22 has been around since 1964, and it's always been semi-automatic.
 
2017-04-17 08:24:37 PM  

iheartscotch: ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: ScottRiqui: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

dogheadtilt.jpg

A bolt action 10/22 is most certainly a thing. That's what I learned to shoot on. Hell, Ruger still makes them. Although, they don't have internal mags anymore. Just googlize it, it's the first result.

Ruger makes .22lr bolt-action rifles, sure.  But the 10/22 is semi-automatic and always has been.

Ok, fine. It's a bolt action .22 that has an internal 10 round magazine. But, it's definitely not a 10/22

/ now, I suppose you'll want to argue that the "r" in 7.62x54r stands for "Russian" not "rimmed"....


No big deal - it just puzzled me about as much as someone talking about a "Colt 1911 revolver."
 
2017-04-17 08:28:08 PM  

ScottRiqui: No, that's the "Ruger American Rimfire."


Whatever.

It's a bolt-action Ruger that uses the 10/22 magazines.
 
2017-04-17 08:28:57 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple


And those little bullets tumble around and do all kinds of damage internally.
 
2017-04-17 08:29:28 PM  

iheartscotch: Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple

It's an ancient Ruger bolt action 10/22. It's got an internal, i.e. non-removable, mag. It's older than I am.

/ Ruger still makes them in bolt action.  Google it. It's the first result


I just did and got the first SERP full of Ruger American .22 LR rifles. That isn't the same gun as a 10/22, don't you agree? I would never call it a "bolt action 10/22". Is it a bolt action Ruger rifle in .22 LR that takes 10/22 magazines? Yes. That still isn't a bolt action 10/22. I honestly can't recall any "bolt action semi-autos" except for perhaps some custom single shot conversions. Even those are more of a break action, not a magazine fed bolt action.

/ Horray the thread derailment into gun semantics is complete
 
2017-04-17 08:29:49 PM  
Oh, thank dog I managed to complete in time.
 
2017-04-17 08:33:08 PM  

Nidiot: nullptr: I'm sad we couldn't pay to imprison him for the rest of his life, hoping he would develop remorse for what he did.

/ Really, I am.
// Yes it would have cost a lot of money.
/// True justice usually does. This sort of de facto death penalty (by State, other inmates, or suicide) is never the "bargain" people think it is.

I thought about it, but I still fail to see the benefit of his developing remorse.

He would essentially have been a waste of resources. He'd be provided with accommodation, food and medical care for the rest of his life, while non-murdering citizens aren't guaranteed those things. When we have food, shelter and medical care for every law abiding citizen, then we can get all high and mighty and be nice to people who act in such an atrociously violent manner. If there is not enough to go around, people like him should have to miss out first.


I guess I left this part unstated: yes it is probably a waste of money on this almost-surely-guilty asshole. But I'm not thinking about this asshole. I'm thinking about the innocent people that get painted as "this asshole" and are wrongly convicted and executed. (I could be wrong and it this very person could be innocent!) There is no going back from that, and we shouldn't be willing to take that risk for some perceived savings.
 
2017-04-17 08:33:44 PM  

wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?


Some of the shooters have made some interesting choices in firearms.  One of the Virginia Tech shooter's guns was a mediocre-quality .22lr Walther, and he bought both of his guns from a gun store shortly before the shooting, so it wasn't a matter of just using whatever was lying around or whatever he could steal.
 
2017-04-17 08:35:54 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: And those little bullets tumble around and do all kinds of damage internally.


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2017-04-17 08:37:48 PM  

nullptr: Nidiot: nullptr: I'm sad we couldn't pay to imprison him for the rest of his life, hoping he would develop remorse for what he did.

/ Really, I am.
// Yes it would have cost a lot of money.
/// True justice usually does. This sort of de facto death penalty (by State, other inmates, or suicide) is never the "bargain" people think it is.

I thought about it, but I still fail to see the benefit of his developing remorse.

He would essentially have been a waste of resources. He'd be provided with accommodation, food and medical care for the rest of his life, while non-murdering citizens aren't guaranteed those things. When we have food, shelter and medical care for every law abiding citizen, then we can get all high and mighty and be nice to people who act in such an atrociously violent manner. If there is not enough to go around, people like him should have to miss out first.

I guess I left this part unstated: yes it is probably a waste of money on this almost-surely-guilty asshole. But I'm not thinking about this asshole. I'm thinking about the innocent people that get painted as "this asshole" and are wrongly convicted and executed. (I could be wrong and it this very person could be innocent!) There is no going back from that, and we shouldn't be willing to take that risk for some perceived savings.


I'll give you that. The only reason I am in favour of life in prison over the death penalty is the amount of times wrongful convictions have occurred. I'd rather there were no wrongful convictions ever, but I guess, if I'm realistic, that's not going to happen.
 
2017-04-17 08:41:03 PM  

nullptr: iheartscotch: Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple

It's an ancient Ruger bolt action 10/22. It's got an internal, i.e. non-removable, mag. It's older than I am.

/ Ruger still makes them in bolt action.  Google it. It's the first result

I just did and got the first SERP full of Ruger American .22 LR rifles. That isn't the same gun as a 10/22, don't you agree? I would never call it a "bolt action 10/22". Is it a bolt action Ruger rifle in .22 LR that takes 10/22 magazines? Yes. That still isn't a bolt action 10/22. I honestly can't recall any "bolt action semi-autos" except for perhaps some custom single shot conversions. Even those are more of a break action, not a magazine fed bolt action.

/ Horray the thread derailment into gun semantics is complete


Look, we're all in agreement. It's a bolt action .22 with a 10 round internal magazine.

We get it, it's definitely not a 10/22 though; even though it identifies as a 10/22, dresses like a 10/22 and wants to use the 10/22 bathroom.

/ now you have to agree or you automatically support Trump
 
2017-04-17 08:46:22 PM  

iheartscotch: / my material grandpa raised hogs, chickens and cows. He might not have been the most... forthright individual


Material? What kind of material? Cotton, wool, rayon, horsehair?
 
2017-04-17 08:46:31 PM  

nullptr: iheartscotch: Igor Jakovsky: iheartscotch: wildcardjack: Who goes shooting spree with a Ruger 10/22?

You'd be surprised at the modest bolt action 10/22. I could make someone/some animal REALLY want to be somewhere else from 100 yards with a 10/22.

/ it wouldn't be the first time I reminded a coyote why he didn't want to be anywhere near the momma cows and their calves

What 10/22 are you shooting?  They are semi auto and the 10 stands for the standard mag capacity that comes with it.

/owned a couple

It's an ancient Ruger bolt action 10/22. It's got an internal, i.e. non-removable, mag. It's older than I am.

/ Ruger still makes them in bolt action.  Google it. It's the first result

I just did and got the first SERP full of Ruger American .22 LR rifles. That isn't the same gun as a 10/22, don't you agree? I would never call it a "bolt action 10/22". Is it a bolt action Ruger rifle in .22 LR that takes 10/22 magazines? Yes. That still isn't a bolt action 10/22. I honestly can't recall any "bolt action semi-autos" except for perhaps some custom single shot conversions. Even those are more of a break action, not a magazine fed bolt action.

/ Horray the thread derailment into gun semantics is complete


good thing I didnt call then clips :)
 
2017-04-17 08:51:31 PM  

bratface: iheartscotch: / my material grandpa raised hogs, chickens and cows. He might not have been the most... forthright individual

Material? What kind of material? Cotton, wool, rayon, horsehair?


Well bourbon.
 
2017-04-17 08:52:14 PM  
Perhaps it is because the news channels spam us with everything tragic that ever happens and it is hard to separate it out, but I don't even remember this.
 
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