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(Independent)   This is certainly going to calm down tensions on the Korean Peninsula   ( independent.co.uk) divider line
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2017-04-17 06:21:16 AM  
Well, you heard it here first.

US era of strategic patience with North Korea over

The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?
 
2017-04-17 06:51:01 AM  
Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatig​u​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.
 
2017-04-17 07:00:28 AM  
Good thing the US has a strong State Department to defuse tensions..., and, uh...smooth things ov-...what?  Defunded?  Oh, nevermind.
 
2017-04-17 07:04:10 AM  

Munden: The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?


Perhaps if they hadn't gutted the State Department until nothing was left, someone would be around to explain that you can't saber-rattle with someone that has nothing to lose. MAD is the only way the regime can ensure their survival at this point, and they're not going to give up their nuclear program because Donnie parked a carrier fleet next door.

This is just insanely irresponsible since it's needlessly increasing the risk that an accident or small incident will spiral into a war that nobody wants.
 
2017-04-17 07:05:35 AM  
It's like QB Trump is trying to draw the NKs offside with a long count.  If they don't bite on it, he'll have to call a time out and then run a pass play.
 
2017-04-17 07:05:43 AM  
Perhaps this would be a good time to restart the global nuclear disarmament efforts of Reagan & Gorbachev.

The was a missed opportunity, sigh.
 
2017-04-17 07:06:24 AM  
Wag that dog.
 
2017-04-17 07:06:44 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatigu​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.


Wasn't that president on their way to jail or something?
 
2017-04-17 07:10:58 AM  
I see us attacking NK at the same time or shortly after he drops the lawsuit that will result in millions losing their health insurance. And people will divert their attention and not realize what just happened.
 
2017-04-17 07:11:40 AM  

Munden: Well, you heard it here first.

US era of strategic patience with North Korea over

The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?


We could simply wait quietly while Lil Kim builds up a stockpile of long range nuclear weapons and prattles off a list of increasingly unreasonable demands.

/if you don't threaten nations with missiles, they won't need to install missile defense systems.
 
2017-04-17 07:15:46 AM  
Everyone has been joking for years that they KNOW everything about NK is a bunch of bullshiat posturing.

Evidently, our world leaders don't see it that way.

Is there a chance that we've been wrong about this?  Is there a chance that NK is more of a danger than we thought?

Because the actions of our government, the UN, SK, and China are all completely out of line with all the jokes over the years.
 
2017-04-17 07:20:52 AM  
I feel like Trump and Pence just picked up a book titled "How to Just Go Ahead and Start a farking War."
 
2017-04-17 07:23:13 AM  
But Hillary is the warmonger.
 
2017-04-17 07:23:22 AM  

durbnpoisn: Everyone has been joking for years that they KNOW everything about NK is a bunch of bullshiat posturing.

Evidently, our world leaders don't see it that way.

Is there a chance that we've been wrong about this?  Is there a chance that NK is more of a danger than we thought?

Because the actions of our government, the UN, SK, and China are all completely out of line with all the jokes over the years.


If Best Korea had any kind of weapon that could hit the US mainland, then yes.  But cries of "the Russians might have given them something" or "they have subs that could reach our coast" are all paranoid bluster until we have some kind of proof.
 
2017-04-17 07:23:24 AM  
fark Lil Kim, bring it.
 
2017-04-17 07:23:47 AM  
NK is just a very convenient excuse to research missile intercept technology and have a base right next to but not bordering china
 
2017-04-17 07:32:28 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Garza and the Supermutants: Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatigu​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.

Wasn't that president on their way to jail or something?


That had already happened when Tilllerson showed up. They had the same acting president and foreign minister they have now.
 
2017-04-17 07:34:45 AM  

Johnny Rockets: fark Lil Kim, bring it.


When people discussing war say "bring it" while sitting in a chair, they abruptly alter the conversation.

* clicks profile *

I think I found a Russian bot.
 
2017-04-17 07:36:03 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatigu​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.


Tillerson is going to go down as one of the worst SoS.
 
2017-04-17 07:36:17 AM  

Munden: Well, you heard it here first.

US era of strategic patience with North Korea over

The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?


Ponies.

We're just going to air drop ponies on them until they can't help but give up their warrior ways.

I mean, why fight when three, four weeks' of steak just lands in your back yard?
 
2017-04-17 07:38:46 AM  

August11: Johnny Rockets: fark Lil Kim, bring it.

When people discussing war say "bring it" while sitting in a chair, they abruptly alter the conversation.

* clicks profile *

I think I found a Russian bot.


And 22 greenlights in 19 weeks? Someone is Farking full time.
 
2017-04-17 07:38:59 AM  

Coram_Deo: It's like QB Trump is trying to draw the NKs offside with a long count.  If they don't bite on it, he'll have to call a time out and then run a pass play.


Do a fake handoff before the pass.
 
2017-04-17 07:41:09 AM  
Will Donald be submitting a bill to South Korea as well?  If so I have little doubt that it will be written on a used scrap of Koch stationary in crayon.
 
2017-04-17 07:43:59 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Will Donald be submitting a bill to South Korea as well?  If so I have little doubt that it will be written on a used scrap of Koch stationary in crayon.



And delivered by carrier pigeon.
 
2017-04-17 07:44:11 AM  
Kim Jong better watch himself or Mike Pence will throw out every North Korean voter registration form he can get his hands upon.
 
2017-04-17 07:54:41 AM  
I'm just wondering what the over/under is on that 'failed test launch' being a 'failed attack on the CV battlegroup'
 
2017-04-17 07:56:05 AM  

August11: August11: Johnny Rockets: fark Lil Kim, bring it.

When people discussing war say "bring it" while sitting in a chair, they abruptly alter the conversation.

* clicks profile *

I think I found a Russian bot.

And 22 greenlights in 19 weeks? Someone is Farking full time.


those are rookie numbers...
assets.rbl.ms
 
2017-04-17 07:56:46 AM  

August11: August11: Johnny Rockets: fark Lil Kim, bring it.

When people discussing war say "bring it" while sitting in a chair, they abruptly alter the conversation.

* clicks profile *

I think I found a Russian bot.

And 22 greenlights in 19 weeks? Someone is Farking full time.


Putin pays us well.
 
2017-04-17 07:57:12 AM  

Deep Contact: Coram_Deo: It's like QB Trump is trying to draw the NKs offside with a long count.  If they don't bite on it, he'll have to call a time out and then run a pass play.

Do a fake handoff before the pass.


Touchdown?
 
2017-04-17 08:04:38 AM  
Anyone have any thoughts on Tillerson? What's his angle other than dismantling the state department? What does he want to do? It just seems like he doesn't want to do anything at all? He can't be in it for the meal plan.
 
2017-04-17 08:10:39 AM  

Johnny Rockets: fark Lil Kim, bring it.


I need to change your farkie from 'Mindless grunt - knows everything about warfare' to 'Twat'
 
2017-04-17 08:16:42 AM  

luckyeddie: I need to change your farkie from 'Mindless grunt - knows everything about warfare' to 'Twat'


Whatever makes you feel just a little bit more special, cupcake.

I'm sorry that Fark isn't providing you safe space from having to hear opposing viewpoints that your delicate system is incapable of processing.
 
2017-04-17 08:18:22 AM  
For years, 'lil Kim mouthed off periodically, and we basically ignored him.  Seemed to work well.  But now, the draft dodger-in-chief wants to start a major war?  Hope he's planning a big increase in the VA budget to take care of all the wounded, and not just budgeting for more MOABs.
 
2017-04-17 08:22:19 AM  
Let South Korea fight its own war--Their government provides universal health Care to all citizens as a basic human right.  Until we catch up they can fight their own battles.
 
2017-04-17 08:22:21 AM  

Mad Scientist: For years, 'lil Kim mouthed off periodically, and we basically ignored him.  Seemed to work well.  But now, the draft dodger-in-chief wants to start a major war?  Hope he's planning a big increase in the VA budget to take care of all the wounded, and not just budgeting for more MOABs.


he mouthed off until he got his candy (fuel oil or coal) and I think even China is tired of it.
 
2017-04-17 08:22:48 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Perhaps this would be a good time to restart the global nuclear disarmament efforts of Reagan & Gorbachev.

The was a missed opportunity, sigh.


And which reasonable parties do you think would participate?
 
2017-04-17 08:26:01 AM  

natewill: Good thing the US has a strong State Department to defuse tensions..., and, uh...smooth things ov-...what?  Defunded?  Oh, nevermind.


Sadly, there is no money in diplomacy.  War makes everyone look away from domestic issues and rakes in billions of dollars for the right connected people.
 
2017-04-17 08:30:58 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Let South Korea fight its own war--Their government provides universal health Care to all citizens as a basic human right.  Until we catch up they can fight their own battles.


That's some mighty fine logic ya got there.
 
2017-04-17 08:35:35 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatigu​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.


Our VP who makes Dan Quayle look like a mental giant and who wouldn't even get a White House tour in any rational world, let alone be the sole "grown up" in the Administration.

We're all gonna die.
 
2017-04-17 08:39:05 AM  
So instead of patience we'll get the spastic flailing of a narcissist without impulse control or attention span.
 
2017-04-17 08:41:40 AM  
Deployment of the THAAD system in SK has been in the works for a few years now.
 
2017-04-17 08:49:15 AM  

Hack Patooey: durbnpoisn: Everyone has been joking for years that they KNOW everything about NK is a bunch of bullshiat posturing.

Evidently, our world leaders don't see it that way.

Is there a chance that we've been wrong about this?  Is there a chance that NK is more of a danger than we thought?

Because the actions of our government, the UN, SK, and China are all completely out of line with all the jokes over the years.

If Best Korea had any kind of weapon that could hit the US mainland, then yes.  But cries of "the Russians might have given them something" or "they have subs that could reach our coast" are all paranoid bluster until we have some kind of proof.


Except that they eventually will. Sure it's hilarious watching them shoot the ocean but the eventually figured out Nukes and they eventually will figure out missiles and then it will suddenly not be funny.  It's an extortionist country. The bigger their threat the more they will demand.  China has already proven they can't control their dog. Somebody is going to have to put it down.  The question is do you let it bite one of the neighbors first or just do it?
 
2017-04-17 08:59:45 AM  

Munden: Well, you heard it here first.

US era of strategic patience with North Korea over

The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?


The war never ended.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement
 
2017-04-17 09:02:02 AM  

Hack Patooey: If Best Korea had any kind of weapon that could hit the US mainland, then yes.  But cries of "the Russians might have given them something" or "they have subs that could reach our coast" are all paranoid bluster until we have some kind of proof.


Russia hasn't backed NK in any serious way since before the Kims came to power.

They're to blame for NK's existence in the first place (thanks Stalin), but they aren't to blame for NK's survival for the last 70 years. That's mostly on China.
 
2017-04-17 09:06:34 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Will Donald be submitting a bill to South Korea as well?  If so I have little doubt that it will be written on a used scrap of Koch stationary in crayon.


Korea spends quite a bit on defense.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locations=KR-US​-​DE-CN&year_high_desc=true
 
2017-04-17 09:06:51 AM  

This text is now purple: They're to blame for NK's existence in the first place (thanks Stalin), but they aren't to blame for NK's survival for the last 70 years. That's mostly on China.


Even China has been getting sick of their shiat over the past several years.  If the USA were to launch a strike to take out their nuclear facilities, China might condemn it, but in reality they wouldn't give the least bit of a fark.
 
2017-04-17 09:12:24 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Tillerson swung by South Korea a few weeks ago and sort of snubbed the foreign minister and acting president, then claimed it was they who snubbed him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rex-tillerson-south-korea-fatigu​e-reports-236214

So yeah, good job. Now we're sending our VP over because our Secretary of State can't hit a softball slow-pitched at him underhand, apparently.


This is what happens when you pick people that have no qualifications for the job.
 
2017-04-17 09:12:49 AM  

Prince George: Hack Patooey: durbnpoisn: Everyone has been joking for years that they KNOW everything about NK is a bunch of bullshiat posturing.

Evidently, our world leaders don't see it that way.

Is there a chance that we've been wrong about this?  Is there a chance that NK is more of a danger than we thought?

Because the actions of our government, the UN, SK, and China are all completely out of line with all the jokes over the years.

If Best Korea had any kind of weapon that could hit the US mainland, then yes.  But cries of "the Russians might have given them something" or "they have subs that could reach our coast" are all paranoid bluster until we have some kind of proof.

Except that they eventually will. Sure it's hilarious watching them shoot the ocean but the eventually figured out Nukes and they eventually will figure out missiles and then it will suddenly not be funny.  It's an extortionist country. The bigger their threat the more they will demand.  China has already proven they can't control their dog. Somebody is going to have to put it down.  The question is do you let it bite one of the neighbors first or just do it?


This is what I'm getting at.

I may be basing this on shiat I read around here more than what the wild world thinks...  But I've been under the impression that every time Kim does some crazy thing about showing how powerful they are, it's to get the rest of the world to give them more stuff to shut them up.  No one ever takes it seriously, because it is not a serious threat.

But that seems to be changing now.  There seems to be a genuine concern that he may actually lob a missile at their neighbors.
 
2017-04-17 09:25:03 AM  

This text is now purple: Munden: Well, you heard it here first.

US era of strategic patience with North Korea over

The alternatives being war or NK voluntarily giving up their weapons programs?

The war never ended.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement


well, that's kind of a twisting of what an armistice is, but sure.  an armistice is a formal agreement of warring parties to stop fighting, but not necessarily an end to the war. We don't go around saying WW1 never ended either but that ended in an armistice, hence Armistice day.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-04-17 09:27:45 AM  

durbnpoisn: But that seems to be changing now. There seems to be a genuine concern that he may actually lob a missile at their neighbors.


It's scary, but I think everyone completely underestimates the incompetence of the Kim regime.  If they were to try to nuke somebody there is even odds they will nuke themselves or they will just hit water.  Of course the scary part is that they get it right or they blunder into a hit.
 
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