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(Washington Post)   Boston Celtics star plays in playoff game despite losing his sister in a car accident yesterday. Story to the left, opinions on his decision to the right   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-04-16 06:50:41 PM  
And he's on fire already.
 
2017-04-16 06:54:35 PM  
It's his decision. Fark everyone else's opinion.
 
2017-04-16 07:06:49 PM  
Usually these guys play well in these situations because it's a couple hours to focus on something else. We've seen a lot of stories where a guy is playing under personal duress and he has the game of his life.
 
2017-04-16 07:53:23 PM  

jaylectricity: Usually these guys play well in these situations because it's a couple hours to focus on something else. We've seen a lot of stories where a guy is playing under personal duress and he has the game of his life.


We've also witnessed astonishing dancing under similar conditions.

Dirty Dancing - Time of my Life (Final Dance) - High Quality
Youtube WpmILPAcRQo
 
2017-04-16 07:57:09 PM  
I felt bad for him when he came out of the game near the end of the first quarter. You could tell how sad he was and I was just thinking, now he's got to sit on the bench with too much time to think.

Maybe it's because I've been day-drinking, but I actually got a tear in my eye when he hit his first three-pointer and Avery Bradley ran over to him to give him a hug.
 
2017-04-16 08:29:29 PM  
Thomas is one of those people that you can't help but like, and openly root for no matter where he plays. I'm actually bummed that I'm not able to watch the game.
 
2017-04-16 08:43:40 PM  
And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.

I sympathize with Thomas. No one should question his decision to play. But I'm NOT cheering for him or your team.  That's like cheering for Trump to hit Blackjack at the Trump Taj Mahal.
 
2017-04-16 08:55:06 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.

I sympathize with Thomas. No one should question his decision to play. But I'm NOT cheering for him or your team.  That's like cheering for Trump to hit Blackjack at the Trump Taj Mahal.


He'd probably bust for hitting on 17.
 
2017-04-16 09:01:40 PM  

King Something: Ow! That was my feelings!: And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.

I sympathize with Thomas. No one should question his decision to play. But I'm NOT cheering for him or your team.  That's like cheering for Trump to hit Blackjack at the Trump Taj Mahal.

He'd probably bust for hitting on 17.


Nah. They'd give him Brooklyn's 4.
 
2017-04-16 09:05:15 PM  
The whole team was off. The refs were terrible, doubly so considering they usually favor the home team.
 
2017-04-16 09:20:13 PM  
Not to blame the refs. Boston could have easily win this game if they just made the shots they've been making all season.

17 was the Celtics franchise record for threes in a game. Due to the way the league is and the way this team plays they broke that record a number of times this year.
 
2017-04-16 09:47:30 PM  
Sorry for him. Wish they could get the W.

But the Celtics may be the weakest one seed ever.
 
2017-04-16 09:51:34 PM  
Sure, make it about that so we can't make fun of the Celtics.

But really, the Celtics, and Thomas especially, are likeable. Realistically, they know they shouldn't be a 1, as we all do, but Cleveland chose to stick them with Chicago, so it's not going to be easy for them. Chicago plays ugly playoff basketball well.

And that sucks about his sister.
 
2017-04-16 09:51:58 PM  

gameshowhost: jaylectricity: Usually these guys play well in these situations because it's a couple hours to focus on something else. We've seen a lot of stories where a guy is playing under personal duress and he has the game of his life.

We've also witnessed astonishing dancing under similar conditions.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/WpmILPAcRQo - 480x360]


I know you jest, because the wreck was after filming for Dirty Dancing had wrapped.

However, Vanessa Hudgens gave an exceptional performance for Grease! Live (By far the best part of the show), the day after her Father died.
GREASE: LIVE - "There Are Worse Things I Could Do"
Youtube 8iBdr2N7Dow
 
2017-04-16 10:02:14 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It's his decision. Fark everyone else's opinion.

 
2017-04-16 10:04:48 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.


Sure, now. Us old-timers went through  some misery.
 
2017-04-16 10:10:59 PM  
People deal with grief differently, and sometimes how we do makes no sense at all to anyone including ourselves.  You know what if he can take this and channel it into playing insanely great  basketball instead of something destructive (like my 2 garbage bags of beer cans after my Dad died) then more power to him.
 
2017-04-16 10:12:52 PM  
Completely respect the player's decision, whatever it may be.  What I cannot come to grips with, no matter the sport, is the media.

Without fail, they detail the grisly details of the decedent and the grief summarily foisted upon the family.  The last sentence of every article is "...Bill is expected to be with the team for Game X tonight."

Every single one of these farking columnists would absolutely take at least a week for grieving, because "they are a family (wo)man first."

Why not the athlete? Because there is a game to win?
 
2017-04-16 10:16:26 PM  
1-0, w000000000t
 
2017-04-16 10:26:09 PM  

jaylectricity: Ow! That was my feelings!: And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.

Sure, now. Us old-timers went through  some misery.


Yeah, that is relative. You guys are not near as obnoxious as many(most) fan bases would be. So, congrats or something.
 
2017-04-16 10:33:48 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: jaylectricity: Ow! That was my feelings!: And Fark Boston fan. You guys are the most spoiled sports fans ever. EVER.

Sure, now. Us old-timers went through  some misery.

Yeah, that is relative. You guys are not near as obnoxious as many(most) fan bases would be. So, congrats or something.


Any time people talk about obnoxious fans I always think they are talking about the bandwagon fans that live in their town.
 
2017-04-16 10:35:17 PM  

Incident on 57th Street: Completely respect the player's decision, whatever it may be.  What I cannot come to grips with, no matter the sport, is the media.

Without fail, they detail the grisly details of the decedent and the grief summarily foisted upon the family.  The last sentence of every article is "...Bill is expected to be with the team for Game X tonight."

Every single one of these farking columnists would absolutely take at least a week for grieving, because "they are a family (wo)man first."

Why not the athlete? Because there is a game to win?


Well, I mean...I don't think the media is saying he has to play. Just they're asking because it's their job to ask and the public (especially the betting public) needs to know that info.

Knock the media for legitimate reasons, not that.

Also, it's a sh*tty part of sports, but I mean, it's the playoffs, his teammates can't afford for him not to play, so it's not like a sportswriter, who are basically no big deal. If he takes a week off, then the last year of work was rendered pointless.
 
2017-04-16 10:43:38 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Sorry for him. Wish they could get the W.

But the Celtics may be the weakest one seed ever.


IMHO it's pretty fair to paint this year's Bulls as quite the "oh crap we don't want to play them" 8th though, too.
 
2017-04-16 10:46:40 PM  
Normally the Bulls would have no shot in this series. But for some reason all the Celtics shooters have gone cold in the last month. They grit and balled their way to enough wins to get to the #1 seed, but Jae Crowder is usually good for some crucial threes (he hit one near the end of the game that gave the C's a chance), Marcus Smart can usually get hot with threes, Bradley can hit threes, Olynik can hit threes, even Amir Johnson if he's wide open will hit threes.

It just hasn't been  happening for them lately. When they're hitting their shots they can survive getting outrebounded 2-1.
 
2017-04-16 10:50:19 PM  
And the missed layups tonight were infuriating.

I legit felt bad for Thomas, though. I've lost somebody long before I should have lost them and it's tough.

People acting like he's expected to go to work are way off base. He went to work because it was an opportunity to push his sadness out of his focus for awhile. But it was obvious that he never lost focus on his sadness all night. He still performed exceptionally, I think he had 33 points, most of them in the first and fourth quarter. But he certainly didn't forget his woes and it was obvious looking at his face throughout the game.

A. Bradley was his buddy tonight, though. Makes sense. Bradley looks like a sensitive man.
 
2017-04-16 10:52:53 PM  

IAmRight: Incident on 57th Street: Completely respect the player's decision, whatever it may be.  What I cannot come to grips with, no matter the sport, is the media.

Without fail, they detail the grisly details of the decedent and the grief summarily foisted upon the family.  The last sentence of every article is "...Bill is expected to be with the team for Game X tonight."

Every single one of these farking columnists would absolutely take at least a week for grieving, because "they are a family (wo)man first."

Why not the athlete? Because there is a game to win?

Well, I mean...I don't think the media is saying he has to play. Just they're asking because it's their job to ask and the public (especially the betting public) needs to know that info.

Knock the media for legitimate reasons, not that.

Also, it's a sh*tty part of sports, but I mean, it's the playoffs, his teammates can't afford for him not to play, so it's not like a sportswriter, who are basically no big deal. If he takes a week off, then the last year of work was rendered pointless.


Whatever. We have all lost people we love. The last thing any of us want to do is sit around and do nothing and obsess about it. You want to be busy. You want to work. You want to take your mind off it. It's human nature.

The whole 'should he play' is total bullshiat. fark the media.
 
2017-04-16 10:56:46 PM  

IAmRight: Incident on 57th Street: Completely respect the player's decision, whatever it may be.  What I cannot come to grips with, no matter the sport, is the media.

Without fail, they detail the grisly details of the decedent and the grief summarily foisted upon the family.  The last sentence of every article is "...Bill is expected to be with the team for Game X tonight."

Every single one of these farking columnists would absolutely take at least a week for grieving, because "they are a family (wo)man first."

Why not the athlete? Because there is a game to win?

Well, I mean...I don't think the media is saying he has to play. Just they're asking because it's their job to ask and the public (especially the betting public) needs to know that info.

Knock the media for legitimate reasons, not that.

Also, it's a sh*tty part of sports, but I mean, it's the playoffs, his teammates can't afford for him not to play, so it's not like a sportswriter, who are basically no big deal. If he takes a week off, then the last year of work was rendered pointless.


Totally fair.  I completely forgot about the betting public.  Thanks.

Kind of unsettling, now that you bring it to my attention.
 
2017-04-16 10:58:40 PM  

jaylectricity: Normally the Bulls would have no shot in this series. But for some reason all the Celtics shooters have gone cold in the last month. They grit and balled their way to enough wins to get to the #1 seed, but Jae Crowder is usually good for some crucial threes (he hit one near the end of the game that gave the C's a chance), Marcus Smart can usually get hot with threes, Bradley can hit threes, Olynik can hit threes, even Amir Johnson if he's wide open will hit threes.

It just hasn't been  happening for them lately. When they're hitting their shots they can survive getting outrebounded 2-1.


Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.
 
2017-04-16 11:02:31 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Whatever. We have all lost people we love. The last thing any of us want to do is sit around and do nothing and obsess about it. You want to be busy. You want to work. You want to take your mind off it. It's human nature.

The whole 'should he play' is total bullshiat. fark the media


My father died at a young age of 54. At that time in 2009 I was a heavy drinker. A detrimental drinker, meaning even if I should be paying my electric bill I'd figure out a way to use the money I have to buy beer and figure out how I'll pay the electric bill later.

Everybody expected that I would spend that week between my father's death and his funeral drunk as hell. But my sister and I had to make arrangements and my sister lives thousands of miles away. So I was sober most of the week. I made sure shiat got done. I definitely had a few drinks after the day was done. I was sober for the wake, I was sober for the funeral. Coincidentally I went to a Celtics game with my cousin's husband and his brother and a couple other people. I think it was the day after the funeral. It was just a way to get away. I had a little meltdown at the liquor store on the way home from the game. I acted like a jerk about something, I don't remember what it was. But then I tried to excuse myself to the clerk by saying, "I'm sorry, my dad just died." She responded with, "Yeah, we all have problems. Doesn't mean you get to be a dick."

As mad as I was at her, and my cousin's husband just sort of corralled me out of the store, I still think about what she said now eight years later.

One more coincidence...my daughter, the second one, the one that survived, was born on the same day my dad died.
 
2017-04-16 11:04:56 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: jaylectricity: Normally the Bulls would have no shot in this series. But for some reason all the Celtics shooters have gone cold in the last month. They grit and balled their way to enough wins to get to the #1 seed, but Jae Crowder is usually good for some crucial threes (he hit one near the end of the game that gave the C's a chance), Marcus Smart can usually get hot with threes, Bradley can hit threes, Olynik can hit threes, even Amir Johnson if he's wide open will hit threes.

It just hasn't been  happening for them lately. When they're hitting their shots they can survive getting outrebounded 2-1.

Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.


When is the last time a #8 seed beat a #1 seed? This isn't hockey.

There's a reason the Bulls were scraping around .500. And it will show during this series.
 
2017-04-16 11:11:07 PM  

jaylectricity: Ow! That was my feelings!: jaylectricity: Normally the Bulls would have no shot in this series. But for some reason all the Celtics shooters have gone cold in the last month. They grit and balled their way to enough wins to get to the #1 seed, but Jae Crowder is usually good for some crucial threes (he hit one near the end of the game that gave the C's a chance), Marcus Smart can usually get hot with threes, Bradley can hit threes, Olynik can hit threes, even Amir Johnson if he's wide open will hit threes.

It just hasn't been  happening for them lately. When they're hitting their shots they can survive getting outrebounded 2-1.

Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.

When is the last time a #8 seed beat a #1 seed? This isn't hockey.

There's a reason the Bulls were scraping around .500. And it will show during this series.


C'mon. They were gifted the 1 seed. The Cavs went into Boston and hammered the Celtics a couple weeks ago. And the Bulls are not a typical 8 seed. Everyone sees that except Celtics fan.
 
2017-04-16 11:22:42 PM  
And the Bulls were 4-0 against the Cavs this season. Just sayin'.
 
2017-04-16 11:27:27 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: And the Bulls were 4-0 against the Cavs this season. Just sayin'.


Yeah, that's why the Cavs gave the #1 seed to the Celtics.

Ow! That was my feelings!: Everyone sees that except Celtics fan.


You don't know Celtics fans. Everyone here understands that they aren't the most dominant team in the East. They just won enough games. It's just fun to think that they have home court advantage. My god, the fans in attendance tonight had no inkling that they were going to watch a loss, though.


When Jimmy Butler plays for the Celtics next year, they will probably beat the Lebrons.
 
2017-04-16 11:35:59 PM  

jaylectricity: When Jimmy Butler plays for the Celtics next year, they will probably beat the Lebrons.


Ainge has been great, but he should have already pulled that trigger.
 
2017-04-17 12:07:30 AM  
Because it's very relevant, I'm just gonna leave this here. From Wikipedia :

On April 9, 2004, (Weird "Al") Yankovic's parents were found dead in their Fallbrook, California home, the victims of accidental carbon monoxide poisoning from their fireplace.[11][49] Several hours after his wife notified him of his parents' death, Yankovic went on with his concert in Appleton, Wisconsin,[53][54] saying that "since my music had helped many of my fans through tough times, maybe it would work for me as well"[55] and that it would "at least ... give me a break from sobbing all the time."[56]
 
2017-04-17 12:08:54 AM  
Celtics: We're the best team in the Eastern Conference
Bulls: YOU'RE FAKE NEWS
 
2017-04-17 12:13:03 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It's his decision. Fark everyone else's opinion.


Aaannnd we're done here.
 
2017-04-17 12:20:35 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It's his decision. Fark everyone else's opinion.


This.  Everyone grieves differently and everyone has different relationships with people.  Not my right to judge what they do during tragedy.
 
2017-04-17 12:41:30 AM  

gameshowhost: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Sorry for him. Wish they could get the W.

But the Celtics may be the weakest one seed ever.

IMHO it's pretty fair to paint this year's Bulls as quite the "oh crap we don't want to play them" 8th though, too.


I... really don't think so. GSW or the Spurs would have no issues with them.
 
2017-04-17 12:42:40 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.


Except for the following teams, all of whom made at least the conference finals:
2014 - Miami - 30th
2013 - Miami - 30th
2012 - Celtics - 30th
2010 - Celtics - 29th
2008 - Spurs - 23rd
2003 - Pistons - 25th

/Stopped searching at 2001, there's probably more but you get the point.
 
2017-04-17 12:52:56 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gameshowhost: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Sorry for him. Wish they could get the W.

But the Celtics may be the weakest one seed ever.

IMHO it's pretty fair to paint this year's Bulls as quite the "oh crap we don't want to play them" 8th though, too.

I... really don't think so. GSW or the Spurs would have no issues with them.


Excellent teams from the Western Conference don't count. :-|
 
2017-04-17 01:39:53 AM  

IAmRight: Sure, make it about that so we can't make fun of the Celtics.

But really, the Celtics, and Thomas especially, are likeable. Realistically, they know they shouldn't be a 1, as we all do, but Cleveland chose to stick them with Chicago, so it's not going to be easy for them. Chicago plays ugly playoff basketball well.

And that sucks about his sister.


I usually don't like Boston teams, but this coach and team I can get behind (I actually didn't mind the Big 3, and accepted the BoSox because a guy I went to college with got farktardedly rich because of those WS appearances, and that season he should have won MVP....)

Partially so I can laugh at people who think guys like Coach Cal are anything but a product of the talent they can recruit. Brad built this, and has coached these guys up after doing it with a nobody school at Butler. This guy is a master basketball mind. And I can't wait to see what else he can do.
 
2017-04-17 01:42:09 AM  

dark brew: Ow! That was my feelings!: Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.

Except for the following teams, all of whom made at least the conference finals:
2014 - Miami - 30th
2013 - Miami - 30th
2012 - Celtics - 30th
2010 - Celtics - 29th
2008 - Spurs - 23rd
2003 - Pistons - 25th

/Stopped searching at 2001, there's probably more but you get the point.


Now to both of your points, sometimes regular season stats don't tell the whole picture. On the other hand, a couple of those teams weren't big on the boards at any point.
 
2017-04-17 02:30:42 AM  
Hero??  Did he get fat and do some photo op with his shirt off or something?
 
2017-04-17 04:47:32 AM  

jaylectricity: Ow! That was my feelings!: jaylectricity: Normally the Bulls would have no shot in this series. But for some reason all the Celtics shooters have gone cold in the last month. They grit and balled their way to enough wins to get to the #1 seed, but Jae Crowder is usually good for some crucial threes (he hit one near the end of the game that gave the C's a chance), Marcus Smart can usually get hot with threes, Bradley can hit threes, Olynik can hit threes, even Amir Johnson if he's wide open will hit threes.

It just hasn't been  happening for them lately. When they're hitting their shots they can survive getting outrebounded 2-1.

Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.

When is the last time a #8 seed beat a #1 seed? This isn't hockey.

There's a reason the Bulls were scraping around .500. And it will show during this series.


It's happened 4 or 5 times, ironically last time to the Bulls after Rose tore his ACL mid series. I tried to ask for karma for that one from the basketball gods, but someone's sister dying isn't what I had in mind.
 
2017-04-17 05:31:26 AM  

IAmRight: Sure, make it about that so we can't make fun of the Celtics.

But really, the Celtics, and Thomas especially, are likeable. Realistically, they know they shouldn't be a 1, as we all do, but Cleveland chose to stick them with Chicago, so it's not going to be easy for them. Chicago plays ugly playoff basketball well.

And that sucks about his sister.


Cutest gun gestures ever
 
2017-04-17 06:05:19 AM  

jaylectricity: Usually these guys play well in these situations because it's a couple hours to focus on something else. We've seen a lot of stories where a guy is playing under personal duress and he has the game of his life.


This. I remember when Brett Favre played a Monday night game 24 hours after his dad died, and threw for something like 500 yards and 5 touchdowns.
 
2017-04-17 07:39:57 AM  

puffy999: dark brew: Ow! That was my feelings!: Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.

Except for the following teams, all of whom made at least the conference finals:
2014 - Miami - 30th
2013 - Miami - 30th
2012 - Celtics - 30th
2010 - Celtics - 29th
2008 - Spurs - 23rd
2003 - Pistons - 25th

/Stopped searching at 2001, there's probably more but you get the point.

Now to both of your points, sometimes regular season stats don't tell the whole picture. On the other hand, a couple of those teams weren't big on the boards at any point.


I don't care what sort of "regular season stats don't tell the whole picture" mess you want to spout - 29th and 30th in the league is real bad for any stat.  Also, 82 games isn't exactly a tiny statistical anomaly.

You are just wrong, bro. You can be a crappy rebounding team and win playoff games.
 
2017-04-17 07:41:22 AM  

tacos4jesus: puffy999: dark brew: Ow! That was my feelings!: Wrong. No team goes very far in the playoffs if they cannot rebound. The Bulls were 3rd in the league this season. Celtics were 25th.

Except for the following teams, all of whom made at least the conference finals:
2014 - Miami - 30th
2013 - Miami - 30th
2012 - Celtics - 30th
2010 - Celtics - 29th
2008 - Spurs - 23rd
2003 - Pistons - 25th

/Stopped searching at 2001, there's probably more but you get the point.

Now to both of your points, sometimes regular season stats don't tell the whole picture. On the other hand, a couple of those teams weren't big on the boards at any point.

I don't care what sort of "regular season stats don't tell the whole picture" mess you want to spout - 29th and 30th in the league is real bad for any stat.  Also, 82 games isn't exactly a tiny statistical anomaly.

You are just wrong, bro. You can be a crappy rebounding team and win playoff games.


Oopsies, please address my outrage to Ow! That was my feelings!
 
2017-04-17 08:37:01 AM  

tacos4jesus: I don't care what sort of "regular season stats don't tell the whole picture" mess you want to spout - 29th and 30th in the league is real bad for any stat.  Also, 82 games isn't exactly a tiny statistical anomaly.


Looking at total rebounds is a bad way to measure if a team is good or bad at rebounding.
 
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