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2017-04-16 11:32:59 AM  
I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.
 
2017-04-16 11:40:54 AM  
It'll be nice when stuff like this is relegated to the non-consequential pile of useless trivia that it should be.  I'm talking about Survivor gossip, that is.
 
2017-04-16 11:50:17 AM  
If ever there was a time I wished I could reach through a TV and slap someone up side the head, it was that moment.  That he was himself gay, means he knew farking better.  I hate someone losing their job, but this one really was brought on by himself.
 
2017-04-16 11:53:20 AM  

thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.


Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.
 
2017-04-16 12:05:53 PM  
It is my hope that this incident will end the forced outing of those who wish to not have their business told to the public

But I doubt that will ever happen because Americans are assholes
 
2017-04-16 12:49:46 PM  
I don't watch Survivor, but I read about this incident.  In regards to the tone-deaf idiot, Jeff Varner, who outed the Zeke Smith, the transgender guy, I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for him, especially because he's gay.  Although per TFA  "out", I'm pretty sure, living in North Carolina, that hasn't always been the case. I'm sure he wouldn't have appreciated it if he'd been outed.

Varner gave the excuse at the time that he outed the Smith because he felt that by Smith not telling the group that he is transgender that somehow he was deceiving them.  That part really pissed me off.  A person being transgender, or whether or not they have had sex-reassignment surgery* is none of anyone's business, and it is up to them who to tell, and when to tell them.
 
2017-04-16 12:50:03 PM  

thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.


Not really. The revelation caused them to completely forego the vote, which I think has only happened once or twice (or never). People would wonder why it cut from them casually talking to that guy just getting up and leaving. Plus he was making a good case for voting someone else off before completely going FUBAR by outing the guy.
 
2017-04-16 12:50:43 PM  
*he's out

/stupid brain
 
2017-04-16 12:51:26 PM  

docpeteyJ: I don't watch Survivor, but I read about this incident.  In regards to the tone-deaf idiot, Jeff Varner, who outed the Zeke Smith, the transgender guy, I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for him, especially because he's gay.  Although per TFA  "out", I'm pretty sure, living in North Carolina, that hasn't always been the case. I'm sure he wouldn't have appreciated it if he'd been outed.

Varner gave the excuse at the time that he outed the Smith because he felt that by Smith not telling the group that he is transgender that somehow he was deceiving them.  That part really pissed me off.  A person being transgender, or whether or not they have had sex-reassignment surgery* is none of anyone's business, and it is up to them who to tell, and when to tell them.


Yep he doubled down by insinuating that Zeke could be deceiving because he didn't tell people there that he was transgender. That's when he lost any chance of staying there.
 
2017-04-16 01:03:49 PM  

cman: It is my hope that this incident will end the forced outing of those who wish to not have their business told to the public

But I doubt that will ever happen because Americans are assholes


I've never watched survivor, but aren't they left out in the boonies and forced to live off the land for weeks, with the requisite amount of changing/bathing/expelling-of-waste and the public nudity that comes with that in front of or around other people?

I'm not saying the asshole isn't an asshole, but if you have a big secret when it comes to the nature of your body that you don't want exposed it seems like an odd choice of a show to try-out for.  For that matter, becoming a reality 'celebrity' and having any 'juicy' secrets in your life just seems like asking for it to be exposed.

If you don't want details about your private life to become public, don't put yourself in the public eye.
 
2017-04-16 01:06:12 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: If you don't want details about your private life to become public, don't put yourself in the public eye


You sound like Gawker

"If Hogan didn't want that sex tape leaked he should not have talked about his cock on the radio."
 
2017-04-16 01:28:19 PM  

cman: TuteTibiImperes: If you don't want details about your private life to become public, don't put yourself in the public eye

You sound like Gawker

"If Hogan didn't want that sex tape leaked he should not have talked about his cock on the radio."


In all seriousness, in this day in age, there are some who do not wish to have that secret revealed due to several violent events

Should someone who is trans just try to hide away to not be avoided? Should they not have the right to dignity and privacy?

Hulk Hogan was a celebrity. He was around cameras all his life. Gawker posted that sex tape to humiliate him, which is why this secret was brought up at tribal council. Gawker then proceeded to blame Hogan saying that they had a right to post the tape because Hogan talked about his sex life.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/blaming-the-victim-on-the-w​a​ne-after-hulk-hogans-1401-million-verdict-in/2270789

There are lines that are not meant to be crossed. Privacy should still exist even today.
 
2017-04-16 01:35:06 PM  

basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.


So, he outed himself to the public.

//Guy is still a dick for outing him to the group.
 
2017-04-16 01:39:49 PM  

docpeteyJ: I don't watch Survivor, but I read about this incident.  In regards to the tone-deaf idiot, Jeff Varner, who outed the Zeke Smith, the transgender guy, I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for him, especially because he's gay.  Although per TFA  "out", I'm pretty sure, living in North Carolina, that hasn't always been the case. I'm sure he wouldn't have appreciated it if he'd been outed.

Varner gave the excuse at the time that he outed the Smith because he felt that by Smith not telling the group that he is transgender that somehow he was deceiving them.  That part really pissed me off.  A person being transgender, or whether or not they have had sex-reassignment surgery* is none of anyone's business, and it is up to them who to tell, and when to tell them.


It's a rather shiatty thing to do to someone in the name of game theory, especially when that is nobody's business.  I'm rather surprised Zeke did not insist on the session being cut.
 
2017-04-16 01:49:02 PM  
Holy shiat, that's just... Unbelievably horrible.

How is it even possible in this day and age that "Survivor" is still a thing?!?

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TuteTibiImperes: I'm not saying the asshole isn't an asshole, but if you have a big secret when it comes to the nature of your body that you don't want exposed it seems like an odd choice of a show to try-out for.  For that matter, becoming a reality 'celebrity' and having any 'juicy' secrets in your life just seems like asking for it to be exposed.


I'm guessing post-op, and the doc that put together the new frank 'n beans did a good job.

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How did the gay guy know the person was trans in the first place?  Did the secret cabal of gay scientists invent some new features of gadar?

What else can this new generation of gaydar do? Would it tell them about the deep dark secret crush I have on Chris Hemsworth... That he could probably make me gay if he put on the Thor costume and winked at me in just the right way?

I'd be devastated if anybody found out about that.
 
2017-04-16 01:50:46 PM  

cman: cman: TuteTibiImperes: If you don't want details about your private life to become public, don't put yourself in the public eye

You sound like Gawker

"If Hogan didn't want that sex tape leaked he should not have talked about his cock on the radio."

In all seriousness, in this day in age, there are some who do not wish to have that secret revealed due to several violent events

Should someone who is trans just try to hide away to not be avoided? Should they not have the right to dignity and privacy?

Hulk Hogan was a celebrity. He was around cameras all his life. Gawker posted that sex tape to humiliate him, which is why this secret was brought up at tribal council. Gawker then proceeded to blame Hogan saying that they had a right to post the tape because Hogan talked about his sex life.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/blaming-the-victim-on-the-wa​ne-after-hulk-hogans-1401-million-verdict-in/2270789

There are lines that are not meant to be crossed. Privacy should still exist even today.


I'm not saying trans people should live in the shadows.  There's a big difference between becoming a shut-in and actively seeking to put yourself onto a major network TV show where the whole point is to live with a bunch of other people who will try to be mean to you and dig out your secrets to gain advantage.

Privacy is important, but when you choose to enter the cult of celebrity you voluntarily waive a lot of your expectations to it.

Where the line should be drawn is up for debate.  I think the ruling against Gawker was wrong, and that they had every right to publish the tape.  On the other hand I believe that the hacking of the fappening photos was wrong, and that a line was crossed by stealing and releasing those.
 
2017-04-16 01:56:39 PM  
Enjoy your unemployment, shiathead.
 
2017-04-16 01:58:49 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I think the ruling against Gawker was wrong, and that they had every right to publish the tape.  On the other hand I believe that the hacking of the fappening photos was wrong, and that a line was crossed by stealing and releasing those.


So if those Fappening photos showed up on Page 3, you would not want that publication to be closed?

Thats a double standard that its OK for the press to publish stolen sex tapes/photos but if its on an internet forum then that's not cool.
 
2017-04-16 02:00:49 PM  
I haven't watched Survivor, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't require manipulating things with ones' genitals.
 
2017-04-16 02:07:29 PM  

cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think the ruling against Gawker was wrong, and that they had every right to publish the tape.  On the other hand I believe that the hacking of the fappening photos was wrong, and that a line was crossed by stealing and releasing those.

So if those Fappening photos showed up on Page 3, you would not want that publication to be closed?

Thats a double standard that its OK for the press to publish stolen sex tapes/photos but if its on an internet forum then that's not cool.


It's a tough call, but I think it comes down to the provenance of the material.  The Hulk tape was filmed by 'Bubba' in his own home (albeit possibly without Hogan's knowledge) and then shared with his coworkers, one of whom then later released it to Gawker.  To me that's a legitimate means for Gawker to have received it.

Some random dude breaking into the house, filming it from the closet, and then selling it to the media or posting it online would be a different story, and that's closer to what happened with the 'fappening' photos.
 
2017-04-16 02:08:23 PM  
And United, Pepsi, and Spicer breathe a collective sigh of relief for douchebag of the week.
 
2017-04-16 02:13:15 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think the ruling against Gawker was wrong, and that they had every right to publish the tape.  On the other hand I believe that the hacking of the fappening photos was wrong, and that a line was crossed by stealing and releasing those.

So if those Fappening photos showed up on Page 3, you would not want that publication to be closed?

Thats a double standard that its OK for the press to publish stolen sex tapes/photos but if its on an internet forum then that's not cool.

It's a tough call, but I think it comes down to the provenance of the material.  The Hulk tape was filmed by 'Bubba' in his own home (albeit possibly without Hogan's knowledge) and then shared with his coworkers, one of whom then later released it to Gawker.  To me that's a legitimate means for Gawker to have received it.

Some random dude breaking into the house, filming it from the closet, and then selling it to the media or posting it online would be a different story, and that's closer to what happened with the 'fappening' photos.


It's not a tough call

First off, how would someone who has been around cameras all of his life say such horrible things knowing it would be taped?

Secondly, it is an extreme violation of privacy whether or not anyone knew they were being taped to have their photos/tapes released without their consent.

We have this thing against child porn. Everyone can agree that its bad. Everyone can agree that a child cannot consent to having sex. But the porn, it lives FOREVER. It will haunt that child every day of their life.

This is what Hogan and the fappening victims are experiencing. Publishing this material is wrong, wrong, wrong. Any publication that does so creates victims. And the fact that you support this is disturbing.
 
2017-04-16 02:19:14 PM  

basemetal: If ever there was a time I wished I could reach through a TV and slap someone up side the head, it was that moment.  That he was himself gay, means he knew farking better.  I hate someone losing their job, but this one really was brought on by himself.


There's long been tension between the gay/lesbian community and the trans community. Sexual orientation and gender identity aren't the same thing and it's not uncommon for them to have goals that conflict.
 
2017-04-16 02:20:30 PM  

cman: It is my hope that this incident will end the forced outing of those who wish to not have their business told to the public

But I doubt that will ever happen because Americans are assholes


It's not just Americans who are assholes but forced outing isn't going anywhere. Too many people, both conservative and liberal, find it a useful political tool.
 
2017-04-16 02:24:27 PM  

cman: TuteTibiImperes: cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think the ruling against Gawker was wrong, and that they had every right to publish the tape.  On the other hand I believe that the hacking of the fappening photos was wrong, and that a line was crossed by stealing and releasing those.

So if those Fappening photos showed up on Page 3, you would not want that publication to be closed?

Thats a double standard that its OK for the press to publish stolen sex tapes/photos but if its on an internet forum then that's not cool.

It's a tough call, but I think it comes down to the provenance of the material.  The Hulk tape was filmed by 'Bubba' in his own home (albeit possibly without Hogan's knowledge) and then shared with his coworkers, one of whom then later released it to Gawker.  To me that's a legitimate means for Gawker to have received it.

Some random dude breaking into the house, filming it from the closet, and then selling it to the media or posting it online would be a different story, and that's closer to what happened with the 'fappening' photos.

It's not a tough call

First off, how would someone who has been around cameras all of his life say such horrible things knowing it would be taped?

Secondly, it is an extreme violation of privacy whether or not anyone knew they were being taped to have their photos/tapes released without their consent.

We have this thing against child porn. Everyone can agree that its bad. Everyone can agree that a child cannot consent to having sex. But the porn, it lives FOREVER. It will haunt that child every day of their life.

This is what Hogan and the fappening victims are experiencing. Publishing this material is wrong, wrong, wrong. Any publication that does so creates victims. And the fact that you support this is disturbing.


I think it's disturbing that you equate the two at all.  Children can not consent.  Hogan chose to have sex with another man's wife in another man's home, he made a poor choice, and should have known better.
 
2017-04-16 02:26:05 PM  

Riche: How is it even possible in this day and age that "Survivor" is still a thing?!?


Because it's relatively cheap to produce.  No writers, much lower budget than a big-name sitcom or drama.
 
2017-04-16 02:28:46 PM  
I'll add that I don't disagree with this guy being fired for this in this case.  While the trans man should've known better than to expect privacy in his personal matters going on a show like that, the guy that outed him also chose to make his life public and chose to out the guy in what he should have known would be controversial at the least, anything his reaps from his public asshattery comes from that decision.

The big lesson is that if you value privacy, don't jump in front of a spotlight.
 
2017-04-16 02:30:06 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I think it's disturbing that you equate the two at all


I am not equating the two. If I were to do that I would say something along the lines of "we should treat stolen porn like child porn". That would be equating the two.

I was speaking about how porn lives forever and how it will always exist to victimize them.
 
2017-04-16 02:39:22 PM  

cman: In all seriousness, in this day in age, there are some who do not wish to have that secret revealed due to several violent events

Should someone who is trans just try to hide away to not be avoided? Should they not have the right to dignity and privacy?

Hulk Hogan was a celebrity. He was around cameras all his life. Gawker posted that sex tape to humiliate him, which is why this secret was brought up at tribal council. Gawker then proceeded to blame Hogan saying that they had a right to post the tape because Hogan talked about his sex life.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/blaming-the-victim-on-the-wa​ne-after-hulk-hogans-1401-million-verdict-in/2270789

There are lines that are not meant to be crossed. Privacy should still exist even today.


Okay, because it's me and well, my life is always farked in some way...

we live in a condo. We have lived here since 2014. It's distinctive because I collect toys (as does my husband) and have a personal library and really unique stuff. On a whim - literally - we got a text last Saturday that the landlord was selling the condo and coming by the next day... then he said he wasn't. Then on Wednesday, he was again. On Thursday, he showed up with a realtor and broker and said he was taking photos and I said "like fark you are."  And now we're scrambling to move by May 1st.

See... regarding privacy? My stuff is distinctive because in this area, there are all of three people who could have a place like this.  Me and my husband, and my best friend - and everyone knows he has wood paneling.  And the guy who raped me? He's a real estate broker. And further, MY stuff, my family and wedding photos, all of it, would be on all the real estate sites.  Abso-farking-loutely not.  I should note we still have eighteen months on the current lease, but this asshat has been harassing me. He sent me 122 texts when I was at work on Friday.

We think we have a place, it's not an upgrade or a downgrade, it's still ghetto and I'm farther from work.  But my privacy matters to me. And nobody should invade anyone's, ever, for any reason.
 
2017-04-16 02:43:08 PM  

cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think it's disturbing that you equate the two at all

I am not equating the two. If I were to do that I would say something along the lines of "we should treat stolen porn like child porn". That would be equating the two.



"I'm not a racist. If I was racist I would hang black people. That would be racist"
 
2017-04-16 02:44:11 PM  
1. Become fan of show about backstabbing and manipulating your way to the top.

2. Sign up to be on show about backstabbing and manipulating your way to the top.

3. Get backstabbed and manipulated on show.

Lesson: Play backstabbing and manipulative games, win prizes in kind.
 
2017-04-16 02:44:24 PM  

cman: It is my hope that this incident will end the forced outing of those who wish to not have their business told to the public

But I doubt that will ever happen because Americans people are assholes


FTFY America doesn't hold an exclusive patent on assholishness, plenty of that spread all over the whole planet. We do however seem to have more than our fair share here.
 
2017-04-16 02:44:50 PM  

LewDux: cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think it's disturbing that you equate the two at all

I am not equating the two. If I were to do that I would say something along the lines of "we should treat stolen porn like child porn". That would be equating the two.


"I'm not a racist. If I was racist I would hang black people. That would be racist"


Like a true progressive, you just had to bring up race for no reason
 
2017-04-16 02:47:32 PM  

cman: LewDux: cman: TuteTibiImperes: I think it's disturbing that you equate the two at all

I am not equating the two. If I were to do that I would say something along the lines of "we should treat stolen porn like child porn". That would be equating the two.


"I'm not a racist. If I was racist I would hang black people. That would be racist"

Like a true progressive, you just had to bring up race for no reason

"I'm not a progressive. If I was progressive I would bring up race for no reason. That would be progressive"

 
2017-04-16 02:48:32 PM  
Whoever outed someone gets ousted
 
2017-04-16 02:58:16 PM  
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2017-04-16 03:10:12 PM  

basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.


This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.
 
2017-04-16 03:13:36 PM  
In regards to privacy and intentionally put oneself into the public eye, the matter is not so much that Smith was outed, but that the other guy, Varner, accused Smith of being deceptive to the group  for not revealing to them that he's transgender, of somehow withholding personal information for some nefarious reason, and that doing spoke to Smith's credibility.

The point is, being transgender is none of anyone's business**.  There is no requirement to reveal it if it isn't absolutely necessary.  I can understand the need to tell your doctor or a potential sexual partner, especially if you haven't had SRS, because no one likes "surprise genitalia".

For some odd reason, in regards to trans people, there seems to be some assumption that people have the right to know.  No, they don't. Choosing not to reveal that one is trans isn't being deceptive. There's a difference between a keeping a secret from someone for the purpose of deception, and what constitutes private information, of which being trans falls under the latter.

*And there's a limit to that if revealing personal information results in creating a potential safety risk to the person in question, which it could in this case considering the current climate regarding trans people and the potential for violence against them in the event they're outed.

**After I was outed, I was stunned at the number of people who asked me if I had a penis now.  Jesus, do they ask everyone that?  "Hey, I know we just met, but I absolutely need to know the status of your genitalia."
 
2017-04-16 03:16:25 PM  

toejam: basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.

This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.


Oh, excuse me for liking something you don't.  How dare someone not cower to your whims.

/f*ck right off
//yes, right the f*ck off
 
2017-04-16 03:16:41 PM  

basemetal: That he was himself gay, means he knew farking better.


Jerks come in all flavors from all walks of life.
 
2017-04-16 03:17:47 PM  

harleyquinnical: docpeteyJ: I don't watch Survivor, but I read about this incident.  In regards to the tone-deaf idiot, Jeff Varner, who outed the Zeke Smith, the transgender guy, I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for him, especially because he's gay.  Although per TFA  "out", I'm pretty sure, living in North Carolina, that hasn't always been the case. I'm sure he wouldn't have appreciated it if he'd been outed.

Varner gave the excuse at the time that he outed the Smith because he felt that by Smith not telling the group that he is transgender that somehow he was deceiving them.  That part really pissed me off.  A person being transgender, or whether or not they have had sex-reassignment surgery* is none of anyone's business, and it is up to them who to tell, and when to tell them.

It's a rather shiatty thing to do to someone in the name of game theory, especially when that is nobody's business.  I'm rather surprised Zeke did not insist on the session being cut.


I haven't watched it for years, but iirc once the season has run it's course they are no longer contractually obligated to keep their mouths shut about anything.
I guess he chose to not delay the inevitable. And that did get the asshole off the show/island.
 
2017-04-16 03:20:10 PM  

lindalouwho: I haven't watched it for years


They need a Russel Hantz every year to get me back
 
2017-04-16 03:22:33 PM  

docpeteyJ: In regards to privacy and intentionally put oneself into the public eye, the matter is not so much that Smith was outed, but that the other guy, Varner, accused Smith of being deceptive to the group  for not revealing to them that he's transgender, of somehow withholding personal information for some nefarious reason, and that doing spoke to Smith's credibility.

The point is, being transgender is none of anyone's business**.  There is no requirement to reveal it if it isn't absolutely necessary.  I can understand the need to tell your doctor or a potential sexual partner, especially if you haven't had SRS, because no one likes "surprise genitalia".

For some odd reason, in regards to trans people, there seems to be some assumption that people have the right to know.  No, they don't. Choosing not to reveal that one is trans isn't being deceptive. There's a difference between a keeping a secret from someone for the purpose of deception, and what constitutes private information, of which being trans falls under the latter.

*And there's a limit to that if revealing personal information results in creating a potential safety risk to the person in question, which it could in this case considering the current climate regarding trans people and the potential for violence against them in the event they're outed.

**After I was outed, I was stunned at the number of people who asked me if I had a penis now.  Jesus, do they ask everyone that?  "Hey, I know we just met, but I absolutely need to know the status of your genitalia."


Oh, FFS...

That first * was supposed to be regarding the limits of privacy and, as Judge Brandeis said on the matter, thrusting oneself into the public eye.
 
2017-04-16 03:29:13 PM  

basemetal: toejam: basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.

This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.

Oh, excuse me for liking something you don't.  How dare someone not cower to your whims.

/f*ck right off
//yes, right the f*ck off


I like humor. I guess you don't.
 
2017-04-16 03:32:09 PM  
Survivor is still on the air?
 
2017-04-16 03:32:22 PM  

docpeteyJ: "surprise genitalia".


That's the name of my T. Rex cover band!
 
2017-04-16 03:32:23 PM  
He was the only one to have the balls to out the competition.
 
2017-04-16 03:34:10 PM  

toejam: basemetal: toejam: basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.

This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.

Oh, excuse me for liking something you don't.  How dare someone not cower to your whims.

/f*ck right off
//yes, right the f*ck off

I like humor. I guess you don't.


I don't like pretentious assholes, I guess you do.
 
2017-04-16 03:43:11 PM  

basemetal: toejam: basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.

This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.

Oh, excuse me for liking something you don't.  How dare someone not cower to your whims.

/f*ck right off
//yes, right the f*ck off


Holy smokes, I took that comment as a joke.
At the end of the day, Survivor's a modern soap opera.  Much like this thread in spots, I suppose...  Anyway, soap operas fall into the "Guilty Pleasure" category, so have at 'er.  Not everyone's going to like everything & they will still comment, but that doesn't mean they need to be told off :/  Something "stupid" can still be enjoyable - not everything is going to be high art & frankly, we all need a little trash tv now & then :)
 
2017-04-16 03:44:15 PM  

basemetal: toejam: basemetal: toejam: basemetal: thisispete: I haven't been following this, but given how it seemed to have such a severe impact, couldn't the revelation have been edited out of the show before broadcast? Or am I missing something? I haven't watched Survivor in years.

Jeff Probst gave Zeke the option to edit it out, he decided to go ahead and show on air.  From what I've read, Zeke has accepted the apology, forgiven, and hopes this shows people a lesson in life.

This is the most depraved thing ... that you know so much about this stupid show.

Oh, excuse me for liking something you don't.  How dare someone not cower to your whims.

/f*ck right off
//yes, right the f*ck off

I like humor. I guess you don't.

I don't like pretentious assholes, I guess you do.


Did the Easter bunny leave a whole different kind of chocolate for you this morning....?  You seem cranky.
 
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