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(Vox)   Doctor Who spinoff Class tries to add cheeky teen drama to classic sci-fi. The operative word here is "tries"   ( vox.com) divider line
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2017-04-16 08:14:39 AM  
They should try the other way and make one for adults again, that'd be sweet.
 
2017-04-16 11:45:27 AM  
Not saying I didn't like the show, but I thought the first episode was kind of gruesome and off-putting. Once you realize that they're trying to do Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole thing becomes a bit more watchable, but they still have a bunch of kids who could pass for thirty playing high schoolers.

Doctor Who spinoffs seem to be legendary for trying to be as little like Doctor Who as is absolutely possible; Sarah Jane Adventures was the only one that was really any fun. Sometimes you wonder why they bother with the label.
 
2017-04-16 11:50:07 AM  

peasandcarrots: Not saying I didn't like the show, but I thought the first episode was kind of gruesome and off-putting. Once you realize that they're trying to do Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole thing becomes a bit more watchable, but they still have a bunch of kids who could pass for thirty playing high schoolers.

Doctor Who spinoffs seem to be legendary for trying to be as little like Doctor Who as is absolutely possible; Sarah Jane Adventures was the only one that was really any fun. Sometimes you wonder why they bother with the label.


I liked Torchwood.
 
2017-04-16 11:50:37 AM  

BumpInTheNight: They should try the other way and make one for adults again, that'd be sweet.


I wouldn't mind that.

That being said, I found Class to be passingly amusing, and yes, super Buffylike. I'll probably watch the next season.
 
2017-04-16 11:51:58 AM  

enry: peasandcarrots: Not saying I didn't like the show, but I thought the first episode was kind of gruesome and off-putting. Once you realize that they're trying to do Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole thing becomes a bit more watchable, but they still have a bunch of kids who could pass for thirty playing high schoolers.

Doctor Who spinoffs seem to be legendary for trying to be as little like Doctor Who as is absolutely possible; Sarah Jane Adventures was the only one that was really any fun. Sometimes you wonder why they bother with the label.

I liked Torchwood.


I loved it, other than Children of Earth, which I loathed. I am not sure they could even bring it back now.
 
2017-04-16 12:26:26 PM  

Leishu: enry: peasandcarrots: Not saying I didn't like the show, but I thought the first episode was kind of gruesome and off-putting. Once you realize that they're trying to do Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole thing becomes a bit more watchable, but they still have a bunch of kids who could pass for thirty playing high schoolers.

Doctor Who spinoffs seem to be legendary for trying to be as little like Doctor Who as is absolutely possible; Sarah Jane Adventures was the only one that was really any fun. Sometimes you wonder why they bother with the label.

I liked Torchwood.

I loved it, other than Children of Earth, which I loathed. I am not sure they could even bring it back now.


Do you mean CoE or the Showtime season? The showtime season is usually the hated one.
 
2017-04-16 12:53:48 PM  
Jacqueline Bisset is the best companion.
 
2017-04-16 12:58:07 PM  

TheManofPA: Leishu: enry: peasandcarrots: I liked Torchwood.

I loved it, other than Children of Earth, which I loathed. I am not sure they could even bring it back now.

Do you mean CoE or the Showtime season? The showtime season is usually the hated one.


Yeah, usually Miracle Day gets the vitriol. And for good reason.

There's only been one episode of Class, so I'm willing to give it a try.
 
2017-04-16 01:04:55 PM  
Very high milleno-douche quotient. Nobody wants to see that shiat.
 
2017-04-16 01:10:04 PM  
With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.
 
2017-04-16 01:19:57 PM  

WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.


Sylvester McCoy is still alive and John Hurt is dead. Paul McGann is still alive, and I would love to see more of him.
 
2017-04-16 01:27:13 PM  

WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.


They don't even need to be creative: David Bradley was fantastic as Hartnell in An Adventure in Time and Space.
 
2017-04-16 01:30:15 PM  

Nurglitch: WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.

They don't even need to be creative: David Bradley was fantastic as Hartnell in An Adventure in Time and Space.


You might be on to something there.
 
2017-04-16 02:19:56 PM  

WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.


Hell, they could go back to Colin Baker. Since the Sixth Doctor's face was never seen in the regeneration into McCoy (it being McCoy in Baker's costume and a wig, after all), who is to say how old the Sixth Doctor may have looked when he died?
 
2017-04-16 02:20:44 PM  

Nurglitch: WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.

Sylvester McCoy is still alive and John Hurt is dead. Paul McGann is still alive, and I would love to see more of him.


They got another First Doctor for "The Five Doctors". If Sean wasn't reticent on it, he could be Third Doctor.
 
2017-04-16 02:37:44 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: WilderKWight: With the Doctor having such a vastly long life, they could do another series about another time in the Doctor's life, and it still wouldn't clash with the primary series.

How about bringing back McGann and doing a whole series about the Eighth Doctor? It would never need cross or contradict anything in the main series, and it would be exceptionally interesting to see what he was up to (outside of the audio stories) during that regeneration.

If McGann's not up to it, I'd watch a series about the War Doctor. Or a series about the events of Seven between the cancellation and the TV movie (just recast; I'm sure they can find a good Sylvester McCoy impersonator).

Heck, they could even go about remaking some of the First Doctor's adventures with some creative recasting. There's a bunch of those that are lost. Bring them back in a new series!

I'm just getting a bit annoyed with the spin-offs having to be aimed at young adults. There are loads of adult fans who don't need yet another story about kids who met the Doctor that one time.

Hell, they could go back to Colin Baker. Since the Sixth Doctor's face was never seen in the regeneration into McCoy (it being McCoy in Baker's costume and a wig, after all), who is to say how old the Sixth Doctor may have looked when he died?


That's a good point... Though he was considerably less large at the time, too.
 
2017-04-16 02:40:26 PM  

Nurglitch: Sylvester McCoy is still alive and John Hurt is dead. Paul McGann is still alive, and I would love to see more of him.


I totally forgot Hurt died, but the War Doctor started as a younger face, so recasting is not out of the question.

And McCoy is a bit long in the tooth to play The Seventh Doctor considering we saw what he looked like at the time of his regeneration into Eight, and it was not what modern McCoy looked like.

The best solution is Paul McGann picking up a series as Eight. It would be fantastic to see him get a chance to show what he's got outside of the audio shows. He was a great choice for the Doctor, despite the TV movie having a lot of bone-headed ideas and Eric Roberts.
 
2017-04-16 02:46:14 PM  
i'll probably give it another try next week, mainly because it is after dr who

but it seems like to much teen 'drama' bs to be for me
 
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2017-04-16 02:47:58 PM  

WilderKWight: Nurglitch: Sylvester McCoy is still alive and John Hurt is dead. Paul McGann is still alive, and I would love to see more of him.

I totally forgot Hurt died, but the War Doctor started as a younger face, so recasting is not out of the question.

And McCoy is a bit long in the tooth to play The Seventh Doctor considering we saw what he looked like at the time of his regeneration into Eight, and it was not what modern McCoy looked like.

The best solution is Paul McGann picking up a series as Eight. It would be fantastic to see him get a chance to show what he's got outside of the audio shows. He was a great choice for the Doctor, despite the TV movie having a lot of bone-headed ideas and Eric Roberts.


I would pay serious money to see this.  McGann has been doing a fantastic job as the 8th Doctor in the Big Finish audio dramas since January 2001 (when Storm Warning was released), and continuing to this day.  There's tons of what is likely considered cannon now, after Night of the Doctor, that could be used in an 8th Doctor tv show.

Plus, he's damn hot for a man in his mid-50's
 
2017-04-16 02:51:48 PM  

WilderKWight: And McCoy is a bit long in the tooth to play The Seventh Doctor considering we saw what he looked like at the time of his regeneration into Eight, and it was not what modern McCoy looked like.


dress him up like radagast and make it that the doctor had been a hermit for a while after the cancellation

the 6th doctor said he wanted to be a hermit in twin dilemma

/hermits united
 
2017-04-16 03:08:47 PM  
I liked Class. I just wish I could figure out what the hell was going on.
 
2017-04-16 03:25:50 PM  
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kept thinking how miss quill reminded me of liz shaw
 
2017-04-16 03:30:56 PM  

JamesSirBensonMum: There's only been one episode of Class, so I'm willing to give it a try.


The first seasons is already done, fwiw. It was ok. Some good, some meh.
 
2017-04-16 03:34:59 PM  
 
2017-04-16 03:39:44 PM  

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kept thinking how miss quill reminded me of liz shaw


Damn it! *That's* whom she was reminding me of.

I even went on the IMDB to see what else the actress had done, but the only part I knew her from was one episode of "Life on Mars".
 
2017-04-16 03:49:15 PM  
Two references to Susan Foreman in one night: her portrait next to that of her step-gran on the Doctor's desk, then her name on the memorial wall at Coal Hill. So I guess she is presumed to have died after disappearing that night, on or about Wednesday or Thursday, 20-21 November 1963.

To be fair to the Doctor, Coal Hill's overabundance of artron energy wasn't all his fault. The rebel Daleks had taken over the basement even before he and Susan left with Ian and Barbara, and were sent away only when he and Ace took them out a couple of days later. On the other hand, he burried the damn Hand of Omega just down the street.
 
2017-04-16 04:02:01 PM  
Speaking of Ian, I do hope that the chairman of the school's governors makes an appearance. I presume that"s how Ms. Quill (and Ms. Oswald and the former caretaker, for that matter) got their jobs. The Doctor from St. John's University rang hes old companion, Prof. Chesterton at Cambridge.
 
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2017-04-16 04:11:01 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Two references to Susan Foreman in one night: her portrait next to that of her step-gran on the Doctor's desk, then her name on the memorial wall at Coal Hill. So I guess she is presumed to have died after disappearing that night, on or about Wednesday or Thursday, 20-21 November 1963.

To be fair to the Doctor, Coal Hill's overabundance of artron energy wasn't all his fault. The rebel Daleks had taken over the basement even before he and Susan left with Ian and Barbara, and were sent away only when he and Ace took them out a couple of days later. On the other hand, he burried the damn Hand of Omega just down the street.


In the 8th Doctor audio dramas, she has a son and the 8th Doctor spends some time with them (no spoilers)
 
2017-04-16 04:13:46 PM  

TheManofPA: Do you mean CoE or the Showtime season? The showtime season is usually the hated one.


Oh - You're right. I meant Miracle Day. It was apparently so awful that I erased its title from memory.

JamesSirBensonMum:There's only been one episode of Class, so I'm willing to give it a try.

The entire season has completed. It just happens that as usual BBC America is getting it later. Unlike the usual late, this time it's six months late, instead of eight hours late.
 
2017-04-16 04:31:34 PM  
I tried watching this series when it first aired, and I was over it after three episodes.  I didn't care about any of the characters, and if you find yourself not giving a damn what happens to them three episodes in, time to move on.  TFA hit it on the nose: each of the characters are brain-numbingly stereotypical.  It's as if the showrunner just threw a handful of YA tropes at a TV screen and expected magic to happen.  Well...nope.
 
2017-04-16 04:41:49 PM  
British TV has tried again and again to copy Buffy, and failed dismally. Hex and Demons were dire. Merlin was okay. Class looks to be DOA.

The fist season of Buffy was uneven, but you could see it had something. And any season that ends with SMG's "I'm sixteen years old. I don't want to die" scene clearly has something.
 
2017-04-16 04:54:00 PM  

Boe: HopScotchNSoda: Two references to Susan Foreman in one night: her portrait next to that of her step-gran on the Doctor's desk, then her name on the memorial wall at Coal Hill. So I guess she is presumed to have died after disappearing that night, on or about Wednesday or Thursday, 20-21 November 1963.

To be fair to the Doctor, Coal Hill's overabundance of artron energy wasn't all his fault. The rebel Daleks had taken over the basement even before he and Susan left with Ian and Barbara, and were sent away only when he and Ace took them out a couple of days later. On the other hand, he burried the damn Hand of Omega just down the street.

In the 8th Doctor audio dramas, she has a son and the 8th Doctor spends some time with them (no spoilers)


I mean that the people of 1960s Shoreditch assumed her to have died then.
 
2017-04-16 04:55:12 PM  

Leishu: TheManofPA: Do you mean CoE or the Showtime season? The showtime season is usually the hated one.

Oh - You're right. I meant Miracle Day. It was apparently so awful that I erased its title from memory.

JamesSirBensonMum:There's only been one episode of Class, so I'm willing to give it a try.

The entire season has completed. It just happens that as usual BBC America is getting it later. Unlike the usual late, this time it's six months late, instead of eight hours late.


No problem. Most mean Miracle Day. Children of Earth was highly reviewed so rare to see someone not like it. However, it is so very bleak I could understand it not being everyone's thing.
 
2017-04-16 05:04:30 PM  
I'll give it a couple more episodes. It took a few weeks for The Sarah Jane Adventures to get decent.

Maybe next year one or more of the kids could land an internship from Ms. McShane at A Charitable Earth. A few bottles of nitro-9 would do wonders for the show.
 
2017-04-16 06:25:59 PM  
Some things change after that pilot episode, so give it a couple more weeks.
 
2017-04-16 06:30:59 PM  

bingethinker: Some things change after that pilot episode, so give it a couple more weeks.


Exactly. Moreover, the pilot elisode had to provide the origin story and introduce the characters. I'll give the regular episodea a few tries before passing judgment.
 
2017-04-16 07:05:18 PM  

Leishu: The entire season has completed. It just happens that as usual BBC America is getting it later. Unlike the usual late, this time it's six months late, instead of eight hours late.


As someone who used to acquire Top Gear, and Dr. Who, before the US runs on BBC America it was typically 6 months late.
 
2017-04-16 10:51:59 PM  
It definitely takes awhile to get into gear but towards the end of the season I really enjoyed it.

Is it as good as Doctor who? No.  Is it enjoyable?  Yes, more often than not.  And the last 4 episodes form a cohesive block that really gels.
 
2017-04-17 05:55:30 AM  
BBC programming generally is ok if you were put together in a lab from parts of furries, fanboys, Vicky Pollard, and hair stolen from Kevin Smith's comb.
 
2017-04-17 10:31:11 AM  

enry:
I liked Torchwood.


Remind me, was that the one with a bunch of young adults in Cardiff with not much else to do besides bang each other while hanging around waiting for aliens to appear in hope that said aliens would be hot and worth banging?
 
2017-04-17 10:45:37 AM  

UtileDysfunktion: enry:
I liked Torchwood.

Remind me, was that the one with a bunch of young adults in Cardiff with not much else to do besides bang each other while hanging around waiting for aliens to appear in hope that said aliens would be hot and worth banging?


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2017-04-17 06:24:00 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: kept thinking how miss quill reminded me of liz shaw


reminded me more of the nanny for those Adipose babies.
 
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